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Re: Evan Edinger

PostPosted by Katka » Sun Nov 06, 2016 4:00 pm

I think if it's Evan's way of coping with his loss than that's okay. I just felt Tomska's joke was still a bit out of line, even though Evan seems to be okay with it. I feel like it's different for him to joke about it himself if it makes him feel better or helps him come to terms with what has happened but at the same time other people should maybe be a bit more considerate. This could have gone wrong easily. I don't know, Tomska's jokes (and the ones by other people following it) just rub me the wrong way in a way Evan's way of using humour as a coping mechanism didn't even though Evan seems to be okay with it.

That being sad, I like Evan's videos. He's funny and they're usually pretty thoughtful. I like Evan. I know a lot of you don't like him because of his attitude towards Dan and Phil but I don't think it's as bad these days (I wasn't around when the drama went down a few years ago though and I don't really know what exactly happened).
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Re: Evan Edinger

PostPosted by flarequake » Mon Nov 07, 2016 7:25 am

I just watched this and it's horribly sad that he can't do anything about it anymore. Knowing Tomska's humour, I'm sure it's all to cheer Evan up and so he knows his friends are there.
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Re: Evan Edinger

PostPosted by Galactic-Howell » Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:08 am

dollicious wrote:
Reizam wrote:Oof. This is pretty sad.



i don’t usually watch evan, but i actually liked this video (kind of reminded me of the relationship i have with my dad so).

there is one thing i really didn’t like though. he mentioned using humor as a coping mechanism saying “you can’t say that, my dad just died." using humor as a coping mechanism is a very common and understandable thing to do but it seemed as if he was saying in this video that he was doing this before he could come to terms with it. in the last minute of the video where he says he “began to feel something and cry” 2 weeks after the fact, he probably accepted the death more and wouldn’t make jokes about it. i honestly liked the message he was trying to convey in the video a lot but he contradicts himself by continuing to joke about his dad’s death. obviously everyone deals with this kind of thing differently but i feel he somehow contradicts the sincerity of this video when he does continue to joke about it like he did today.

i’m going to put the jokes from twitter he and tomska made today under a spoiler because it is pretty long:

tom made a joke about the video evan posted to which evan didn't really seem to mind.


after other people reacted to tom's joke saying this comment was inappropriate he made a pun :facepalm:. after, connie also makes a joke about it being the new tag video :?.


then, sammy posts a picture of both evan and tom laughing about the "drama."


i know this is really long winded it just struck me the wrong way for him to continue to make jokes about it after watching the video :sideeye:.


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This video struck a chord with me - I feel like this is one of the only times that we have really seen honest/open Evan. It was refreshing, even though the circumstances are awful.

Additionally, as someone who has a rocky relationship with their father (for entirely different reasons) I relate.
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Re: Evan Edinger

PostPosted by dollicious » Mon Nov 14, 2016 4:05 pm

i know i'm just being salty rn but evan "edit that phan out" edinger back at it with unnecessary d&p mention in his content :roll:.

i know other people have discussed this already, it just bothers me that he says he actively puts effort into editing out d&p so people watch his content for him and then instead goes out of his way to mention them all the time. this joke was literally 3 seconds of his vlog but it was so unnecessary smh.

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Re: Evan Edinger

PostPosted by fancybum » Mon Nov 14, 2016 9:04 pm

The thing with Evan isn't about avoiding mentioning D&P, it's just pettiness about views. On that vyou1 vid with Dan eating the ice cream, him and Dodie have (or at least had, I don't want to dig through all the comments to find them) comments going "this has X views? lolwut". The actual video of his that that clip was taken from has way less views (Dan licking ice cream has +330k views, Evan's vlog has 33k).

He'll mention D&P all damn day though, he just won't show them so his vids don't get co-opted by people that don't care about his actual content (but then again those people won't be watching or appreciating his work anyway, so I'm not sure what he's actually accomplishing. But whatevs).

Unrelated, but how bad is his video about his dad? Like hypothetically if I'm an easy crier and not doing well emotionally rn hypothetically, will it make me cry (and therefore I probably shouldn't watch it)? help me
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Re: Evan Edinger

PostPosted by sweetmm » Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:41 pm

fancybum wrote:Unrelated, but how bad is his video about his dad? Like hypothetically if I'm an easy crier and not doing well emotionally rn hypothetically, will it make me cry (and therefore I probably shouldn't watch it)? help me


You may cry at the very end, he did.
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Re: Evan Edinger

PostPosted by hmm » Thu Nov 17, 2016 3:55 am

papierklemmen wrote:
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who.... even is this? that rumour must be deep underground i'd never heard of it :lol:


haha am a big fan of lucy moon's (highly recommend), but tbh have never heard her name in the same sentence as dan's so that tweet seems pretty attention seeking :sideeye:
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Re: Evan Edinger

PostPosted by flarequake » Thu Nov 17, 2016 5:05 am

hmm wrote:
papierklemmen wrote:
anathema wrote:
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who.... even is this? that rumour must be deep underground i'd never heard of it :lol:


haha am a big fan of lucy moon's (highly recommend), but tbh have never heard her name in the same sentence as dan's so that tweet seems pretty attention seeking :sideeye:


I took that tweet as just an observation at how funny it is. I don't think every youtuber who ever mentions them is attention-seeking especially if it's just once. I don't get very deep in tumblr so I haven't seen what she's referring to either, but enough fics out there seem to bring in whoever, it seems possible.
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Re: Evan Edinger

PostPosted by fancybum » Fri Nov 18, 2016 7:03 pm

Ugh this guy. I don't have any time right now but I'm registering fresh annoyance for the public record. This fucking guy. I'm hardcore side-eyeing Tomska for hanging with him lately, like have more self respect please, I trusted him.
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Re: Evan Edinger

PostPosted by buttrito » Wed Jan 04, 2017 6:13 pm

just relating back to past comments in this thread im glad some ppl can relate to the cringe parts of evan.

I found him off of younow and really enjoyed his content but once he started with the dan and phil stuff and the whole pun branding it made me lose interest so fast.
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Re: Evan Edinger

PostPosted by captainspacecoat » Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:56 pm

Can I revive this thread to talk about his new video?


There's something so uncomfortable and inappropriate to me about two white people lecturing about how to respond to white supremacy/racism in general. I couldn't disagree more with them about Richard Spencer getting punched, and was kind of taken aback by Evan's hesitance to label him as a nazi. The guy is literally a nazi, he has appropriated nazi terminology and has advocated for the genocide of Black and Jewish people- people should punch nazis to their heart's content Evan!!!!!

Then there was his total ignorance surrounding the left and their failure to live up to their supposed 'love is love' tolerance for all, when I would argue that that's more of a centrist, neoliberal position. I consider myself pretty left-leaning, but I fully endorse punching nazis and think minorities in particular have absolutely no obligation to respect the people who advocate against their right to freedom/safety/life.

Then he went on about how we shouldn't judge people based on who they vote for, and gave the example of someone voting Tory based on their financial policies. As though conservative financial policies aren't inherently detrimental to poor people, and as though any poor person should respect someone for voting against their best interests, or as though any immigrant should forgive someone for voting for a party that would advocate for them to leave the country.

And then the icing on the cake, he pulls the reverse racism card. Yiiiiikes.

Anyway this has been a rant, that video severely lessened any respect I had for Evan. I just don't understand what was going through their minds when they decided a video made by two white people about how to respond to racism would go down well ...
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Re: Evan Edinger

PostPosted by thephandommenace » Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:58 am

What the... I can't. I can't fucking believe him.

Okay, I've just come from seeing stupid people on my Facebook making similar remarks. Some guy was telling my ex-classmate, who made a passionate status about how men should listen to women when they say 'no', that they "shouldn't make angry posts because it makes 'neutral' people think all feminists are raging lunatics who need a man to put them on a leash". I mean????? There's obviously so much wrong with that comment, but I noticed a correlation there between that and Evan's video. It's oh so easy to sit back and think "why y'all gotta be so angry and 'violent', why can't you just have a calm discussion" from your position of privilege, when you've obviously never experienced what these people are going through. Calm discussion doesn't always work. And some people definitely deserve to be punched in the face. ESPECIALLY if they're spreading the kind of message that POC should be killed. Who's being more harmful here?

I have too many incoherent emotional feelings about this but long story short, Evan needs to sit his ass down and shut the hell up. I'm angry today, can you tell? I'm not gonna apologise for it though.
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Re: Evan Edinger

PostPosted by nephilimcat » Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:55 am

Jeez, if he wants to talk about this stuff, get an actual POC as your discussion partner instead of another white person. Sure, there are probably some POC who agree with this for some reason, but apart from that, you don't make a video like that from your privileged perspective. I can't stand straight people doing this, so I can imagine how it must feel for POC to see this :?

It's so easy to say things like "Punching someone, even a nazi, isn't okay" when you don't have to fear for your life, that was honestly my first thought as well. But I quickly realised that if someone doesn't listen to you at all or threatens your life or someone else's, then there's hardly another way!? Punching someone in the face before ever having a discussion with them or knowing anything about them just because they say something stupid isn't the way to go about it because some people just don't know better and need to be educated. But nazis don't listen, nazis tend to be violent themselves, nazis only understand the language of violence. Sometimes you can't do anything but punch someone. Even I have to admit that, as a person who is against violence.

I'd be careful about doing something that might get you in trouble though. You don't want to get your life ruined because of someone like that. Especially looking at the justice system and how it tends to favour white people :?
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Re: Evan Edinger

PostPosted by Katka » Mon Apr 24, 2017 3:39 pm

I already lost some respect for him when he made that mess of a video during the US election, refusing to vote for Hillary and stuff. He changed his mind about that later so I didn't give it too much thought. But this new video... damn. I feel like Evan has a really hard time realising when it's time to talk and when it's time to sit and listen. People just need to realise that sometimes their opinions aren't the most important ones and this vid is a prime example of that. I agee that he should have partnered up with someone who wasn't white for this, if he really wanted to make this video. It might have given him an opportunity to listen and understand. But instead we got a video of two white people not realising how privileged they are and offering absolutely nothing of value to the discussion. Well done, Evan.

I'm done with Evan for now, I think. This video put me off him for good. His reluctance to call Spencer a nazi made me really angry actually. Why are people more uncomfortable with calling out nazis than with actual nazis spouting nazi ideology? :( Man, this is just sad. I hope there's going to be some backlash that gets Evan thinking like it did with his election video but I'm not counting on it.
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Re: Evan Edinger

PostPosted by captainspacecoat » Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:17 pm

Katka wrote:
I'm done with Evan for now, I think. This video put me off him for good. His reluctance to call Spencer a nazi made me really angry actually. Why are people more uncomfortable with calling out nazis than with actual nazis spouting nazi ideology? :( Man, this is just sad. I hope there's going to be some backlash that gets Evan thinking like it did with his election video but I'm not counting on it.


This really disturbed me as well. Describing him as "bad-leaning" was just so vague, and then he implies that Richard Spencer "didn't do anything violent" as he was "just talking" - as though speech itself can not be a form of violence. Implying that calling Richard Spencer a nazi is unfounded is just so ignorant given that that is not a title RS shies away from and he has literally re-appropriated nazi language and incited hate-speech against Jewish people and POC. If someone fits the definition of a nazi, it is okay to call them a nazi.

They even said that people refer to him as a nazi because "it makes them feel better about doing it [punching him]". God, it's just so condescending for two white people to sit there and tell people that literal hate-speech is "nuanced", as though POC should critique the way they react to racism.
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Re: Evan Edinger

PostPosted by Katka » Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:27 am

Did anyone see Evan's new video on his demisexuality? I liked it quite a lot. I'm not his biggest fan anymore after that horrible video on political correctness but his new video on his sexuality was very honest and genuine and really helped me understand why it's hard for him to talk about his sexuality and how shitty some people can be when it comes to sexualities on the ace spectrum. I feel like I learnt something from that vid and I'm sorry Evan had to go through that.

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Re: Evan Edinger

PostPosted by somethingsketchy » Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:07 am

Katka wrote:Did anyone see Evan's new video on his demisexuality? I liked it quite a lot. I'm not his biggest fan anymore after that horrible video on political correctness but his new video on his sexuality was very honest and genuine and really helped me understand why it's hard for him to talk about his sexuality and how shitty some people can be when it comes to sexualities on the ace spectrum. I feel like I learnt something from that vid and I'm sorry Evan had to go through that.


I also liked this video and am glad you brought it up! It was interesting to hear how coming out has affected him, especially since his experience has been more negative than many other Youtubers'. He also explains really well why he feels uncomfortable being seen as a spokesperson for demisexuals after his coming out video gained popularity. I can warmly recommend the video to everyone interested in these topics because, like Katka, I feel like I gained some valuable insight by watching it.
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Re: Evan Edinger

PostPosted by onetruetrash » Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:09 pm

I saw the video too! I think Evan needs to get some better friends.
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Re: Evan Edinger

PostPosted by Katka » Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:44 pm

Evan made another video, with a bisexual girl and gay guy this time, talking about the LGBTQ community, bisexual erasure, ace exclusion and queer discourse. I like it quite a lot and I'm glad Evan uses his platform for stuff like this as well now. I agree with a lot that was said actually and I'm actually quite impressed with Evan (and his guests) for making this video.

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