Especially with Dan (same could be true for Phil but he's running a tight ship) I feel like he does have an interest in the news, politics and society. I just think he fears the possible backlash or thinks that he ought to have a 100% solid, informed opinion that cannot be debated before he dares expressing himself.
jaej wrote:i can't back this up (literally when can i im awful im sorry) but i used to have charlieskies on facebook (loads of people did) and in 2012 he posted stuff about the US election and was talking about how he hated Romney. someone commented that he'd voted conservative in 2010, he replied that it was only 'because Phil did it' and i can't even scroll back to check this because i blocked him on the site a couple of years ago lmao sorry
other than that... they both seem pretty pro-queen? probably phil more so than dan, but it seemed a bit weird to me. it could because of where i live in the UK, but they definitely didn't seem like the type of people here who support a monarchy
Quick q: Is there a vocal movement in the UK to get rid of the monarchy? While I can see why that could be a political issue, wouldn't even a lot of liberal people still want to keep the monarchy in place because of tradition?
I always thought D&P referencing the queen was to play up their British image. Hmm.
jaej wrote:definitely! a lot of people, less so in england, just see them as pointless money guzzlers who represent a very outdated society, especially with the overtly conservative views of the older members, plus they're unelected and incredibly privileged by birth right. i'd love to hear what they actually think of a monarchy and not just 'lol the queen!!'
That's exactly what i suspect. You see a lot of youtubers trying to represent the quintessential Brit. Supporting the monarchy seems to be part of that image. The queen I guess is also just one of the few topics you can reference that people of all countries -especially americans- will recognize as 'British'.
Wear a monocle and mention tea- the Queen - British candy ... all in a strong accent, and you got you're usual 'look at me being british' shtick.
Even in my divided country (Belgium), with all the struggles between the flemish and walloon communities and 30 or so of flemish people voting for a party that ultimately wants Flanders to be independent, there's still majorities of around 70% of people who support the monarchy. The king is considered as on of the few people who can actually play to role of 'impartial arbiter' in things like who to give the initiative to form a government after an election. That role is of course much more important in a proportional election system where the national vote is split in 8 major parties divided among linguistic and ideological lines and where they need to balance the government accordingly, so that reason for supporting the monarchy in Britain might be moot.
But yea, you would expect progressives to be republican instead of supporting an undemocratic medieval hereditary system I don't support it
jaej wrote:other than that... they both seem pretty pro-queen? probably phil more so than dan, but it seemed a bit weird to me. y
obviously joking but hey, I take what i am given.
I never really felt they were pro Queen (or not pro queen for that matter). they have referenced her quite a lot but always in a jokey way or in moment they wanted to appear stereotypically British. Do you have examples where they seem pro queen ?
daphenaxa wrote:for Bernie, idk. I hope he pulls through. But Clinton seems to be winning NY and I think that would be the end. I watch the young turks channel on yt quite a bit and they still think he can pull it off but they are crazy partisan too.
jiggly wrote:dalel is dead, phalel lives.
jhamba wrote:daphenaxa wrote:for Bernie, idk. I hope he pulls through. But Clinton seems to be winning NY and I think that would be the end. I watch the young turks channel on yt quite a bit and they still think he can pull it off but they are crazy partisan too.
I hate the young turks. I think Cenk Ugyurc is kind of gross, and extremely annoying. They're not very well researched, either. Anna Kasparian could be good if she stopped sucking up to Cenk, but I don't see that happening
daphenaxa wrote:honestly I think it goes beyond not fitting his public image and not wanting to influence people. Imo he is not interested in politics at all. If he was interested, without really discussing it, he would have talked about going to vote or you know even one mild commentary about something. He has very scarcely said stuff about LGBTQ or gender identity, so even if it is not something he wants to discuss, I think it is something that he is interested about or you know involved with even superficially. So i just think he is not into politics at all like Dan seems to be.
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