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What happened to GG?

Re: What happened to GG?

PostPosted by jhamba » Mon Apr 11, 2016 11:41 pm

alcoholicferrets wrote:I'm super happy to get to post this tbh, messy bitch who lives for drama and all. And of course it's understandable that people wouldn't believe statements with no proof (I never saved much stuff in the first place and haven't talked to the people who did in years, I doubt they'd have kept stuff either). I deleted almost everything I had saved from back then.

Note: I feel like this following story might be kind of confusing and possibly uninteresting now that I wrote it out.
So to keep this kind of short but still coherent [after writing 2 paragraphs, I redact this statement, it is neither short nor coherent], in the old (super anti-Dan) threads, a bunch of regular posters decided to start a Google Drive to make a "real" Draw My Life for Dan since he would take forever to upload it and would downplay a lot early Phan stuff. Of course, this new private place for communication resulted in lots of ~secrets~ being revealed, people who were posters revealed their phandom drama-stirring blogs (one of which even got a message from Dan asking them to stop posting his old regrettable photos).

The first drama of the Google Drive (which was mostly used for communication via a main Google Doc and the little chat on the side that people would save manually in an extremely inefficient manner) was due to a particularly douchey poster who would mock people who self-harm, call Dan fat (three guesses as to who happily joined him in that triggering fuckery), call Phil ugly, and say increasingly rapey and serial killeresque things. He also had the brilliant idea to use his actual official school email for the Drive which revealed his full name, so he was eventually #exposed and ousted. People generally supported this. illegal was good friends with this scary ass person and felt we had all unfairly ganged up on him bc they frequently had uncomfortable (for everyone else) flirty conversations in the chat and really enjoyed mocking Dan's weight and sharing links to gay porn.

illegal constantly denied that he was the guy who was blocked by Dan and Phil, despite them having identical writing styles, liking and disliking the same things (Phil and Dan, respectively), making the same specific spelling error repeatedly (costumerserviceblog instead of customerserviceblog - this typo appeared in asks sent from the blocked guy's blog to a phan blog and also every time illegal mentioned it on the Drive), and being from Portugal (the guy who was blocked said he was from Portugal on his blog; a few people on the Drive had blogs with statcounter so they'd get frequent visits from all the countries people in the Drive claimed...and Portugal. illegal constantly insisted he was from Spain, that he'd never gone on their blog, etc.). As time went on, he would also say increasingly implausible things about himself, like tales of sexual exploits that read like Larry Stylinson fanfic, that he worked in a really important family business doing computer stuff when he wasn't on the Drive despite the fact that he was on there all the time, that his family were millionaires so that's why he's secretive about his identity. When people had positive things to say about Dan, illegal got really pissy and tried to insult his shirt or say he would never watch his videos and try to get people to discuss something else. He'd also often authoritatively claim things were Phan facts when they were actually random theories people made up, often in the doc/chat itself.

There was a poster in the Doc (and the original threads) who was a 14 year old girl that some people found annoying (but really, she was just very 14 and innocent/naive about things....also not a native English speaker) and illegal particularly hated. Once she found that someone had changed her from being able to edit the main document people used to communicate to just viewing it. Only some users (incl illegal) could change permissions. Someone switched her back to being able to edit, then it was switched to view only again. The document said it was last edited by illegal. He didn't say anything in the chat until someone switched him to view only, then he suddenly was super angry, said he wasn't near his computer and wasn't looking at the chat, threatened that if he's removed from the Drive, he'd share everyone's personal info/blogs/etc. (we literally had a document where everyone shared their name, age, location, tumblr link...what a mess).

Later, the aforementioned 14yo girl illegal bullied and antagonized found some circumstantial evidence that illegal's stories were fake and that he was the blocked guy; in the chat, she ended up arguing with him about something (saying his claims of being a millionaire are fake probably). He was really vicious and mean towards her and told her her parents should have aborted her. This particular statement was the tip of the iceberg for me bc it's one thing to be fake and mean and shady, but I feel like a grown ass adult (as he claimed to be) telling a child they should have been aborted is just a new level of fucked up.

Over time the Drive died as people lost interest/found alternative ways to communicate with the people they befriended. illegal presumably returned to GG which was resurrected into a significantly better place until it exploded due to being run by demon ass bitter control freaks who lie about their identity.

[I don't know if these things sound particularly bad with no context, but I feel like I have at least made a valiant attempt at recording this tiny piece of niche phandom history]


wow, what a mess. If this is all true, he really is an awful person. And, GG really knows how to pick their mods, because he sounds a lot like gabz_is_shite (except much worse, probably just because of the private nature of the chat).

Also, no wonder he hated us. We were pretty complimentary about Dan, haha.
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Re: What happened to GG?

PostPosted by mermaid blood » Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:22 am

thank you for sharing, alcoholicferrets. I have no reason to disbelieve you, but thank you for acknowledging that you have no receipts.

If all true, I guess I'm just sad we didn't all move sooner. and I feel a little bit better I guess, about having a problem with some pervasive attitudes. I did feel slightly over-reactiony and wondered if I should get a better sense of humour, particularly when it came to illegal.

the early threads are fairly gross, though fascinating to read through. this extra information gives everything a little bit more context.
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Re: What happened to GG?

PostPosted by Winterbury » Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:33 am

Wow thanks for spilling the beans alcoholicferrets. I can't believe I once thought illegal was a cool and edgy Philboy. Funnily, I remember reading about the twitter account thing in the earlier topics and I'm pretty sure I know which "annoying" poster you're referring to. Tbh back when I read the threads I was a bit jealous I couldn't see what you guys were talking about in that Drive but it seems like all I missed out on are some serious anger management issues. jk kinda i'm sure you made some good friends back then

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Speaking of ancient GG history though did anyone ever find out who Turnip was? The account of two people who claimed to have known D&P back in the day?

Oh man, I remember getting so excited every time I read one of their posts haha. From what I know, they just disappeared one day but I wasn't active on GG back then so maybe one of the old posters knows more.
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Re: What happened to GG?

PostPosted by sweetmm » Tue Apr 12, 2016 2:11 am

I feel so left-out as I can't contribute to the Drive-gate as I joined quite late; it must be at the time phantaray and K of phandirectory left?

Anyway it is a good reminder to us; we are interacting with people we don't know. So always be careful :platonic: unless you are in missemma diamond girls group :love1:
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Re: What happened to GG?

PostPosted by human » Tue Apr 12, 2016 2:56 am

sweetmm wrote:Anyway it is a good reminder to us; we are interacting with people we don't know. So always be careful :platonic: unless you are in missemma diamond girls group :love1:


What does that mean? And why does it sound passively aggressive?
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Re: What happened to GG?

PostPosted by sweetmm » Tue Apr 12, 2016 3:31 am

human wrote:
sweetmm wrote:Anyway it is a good reminder to us; we are interacting with people we don't know. So always be careful :platonic: unless you are in missemma diamond girls group :love1:


What does that mean? And why does it sound passively aggressive?


You are joking right :shrug: I used to call you guys Golden Girls during the meet-ups (but the term GG is now defunct) 8-) is diamond aggressive (sorry I am not up-to-date with urban words) :|

What I meant was only those who had openly met-up are safe to interact with e.g. missemma and the golden/diamond girls.
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Re: What happened to GG?

PostPosted by jhamba » Tue Apr 12, 2016 3:35 am

sweetmm wrote:
human wrote:
sweetmm wrote:Anyway it is a good reminder to us; we are interacting with people we don't know. So always be careful :platonic: unless you are in missemma diamond girls group :love1:


What does that mean? And why does it sound passively aggressive?


You are joking right :shrug: I used to call you guys Golden Girls during the meet-ups (but the term GG is now defunct) 8-) is diamond aggressive (sorry I am not up-to-date with urban words) :|


no, it just sounded really stripperesque, tbh.
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Re: What happened to GG?

PostPosted by sweetmm » Tue Apr 12, 2016 3:39 am

jhamba wrote:
no, it just sounded really stripperesque, tbh.


Ok gotta find a new term then :ninja:
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Re: What happened to GG?

PostPosted by majitzu » Tue Apr 12, 2016 3:44 am

Thanks for sharing. I avoid the first gg threads because they were very toxic.
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Re: What happened to GG?

PostPosted by human » Tue Apr 12, 2016 3:47 am

sweetmm wrote:
human wrote:
sweetmm wrote:Anyway it is a good reminder to us; we are interacting with people we don't know. So always be careful :platonic: unless you are in missemma diamond girls group :love1:


What does that mean? And why does it sound passively aggressive?


You are joking right :shrug: I used to call you guys Golden Girls during the meet-ups (but the term GG is now defunct) 8-) is diamond aggressive (sorry I am not up-to-date with urban words) :|

What I meant was only those who had openly met-up are safe to interact with e.g. missemma and the golden/diamond girls.


Oh ok, I apologise. Sorry about that. I didn't know whether to read that as you thought some of us thought we might be better than others or something which wouldn't have been true. It's a shame the abbreviation GG is tainted lol.
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Re: What happened to GG?

PostPosted by missemma » Tue Apr 12, 2016 10:23 am

sweetmm wrote:I used to call you guys Golden Girls during the meet-ups (but the term GG is now defunct) 8-) is diamond aggressive (sorry I am not up-to-date with urban words) :|

What I meant was only those who had openly met-up are safe to interact with e.g. missemma and the golden/diamond girls.


& here was me thinking you were using it because I am nice and shiny just like a diamond :lol: :lol:

(do you like our new admin ranks sweetmm?) :thanks: :thanks:
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Re: What happened to GG?

PostPosted by daphenaxa » Tue Apr 12, 2016 10:58 am

I am laughing my ass off thinking of illegal getting blocked by Phillie and thinking it's Dan who blocked him from Phil's account. The delusion is real in this one. For someone who shitted on the phandom every occasion possible in part because we are delusional fan girls, it is kinda poetic justice
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Re: What happened to GG?

PostPosted by jaej » Tue Apr 12, 2016 11:12 am

i only started reading (and soon posting) in the gg thread at the end of 2014, when it felt like it was starting to get more positive, so im really interested in+thankful for the insight! i didnt actually know much about the drive, but i was a massive lurker on phantaray (anyone remember the radio livechat thing? i only signed in to post about twice but that was the highlight of my week back in 2013ish. i still remember some of the usernames and things that happened and i was even useful in backing up little known information once. the jaej evolution) so i remember the dml stuff happening!
there were actually two posters i thought illegal couldve been based on writing style, mannerisms, likes etc. so i was automatically kind of :? about him. one was that blocked twitter account, who i never actually saw much of bar that one event, and it kind of confirmed that when i mentioned it once and he got incredibly defensive. not that subtle, really
and the other i thought he was initially was a tumblr account in early 2014 who im sure said he was from australia. his account was very anti dan, worshipped phil and got really mad at a girl i used to talk to when she posted about how charlieskies used to send her really inappropriate stuff, since the guy was obsessed with charlie and phil. he made a lot of posts about how dan was an incredibly gay bottom ('cumbucket' again), used a lot of racist slurs and
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one remark i remember in particular was a post he made in the danisnotonfire tag stating that 'every 14 year old dangirl should choke on my dick'
i seriously, seriously doubt it was illegal, but i'd been suspicious that he was one of the two for a long time, from his general typing to habit of posting theories as confirmed facts and getting defensive about it
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Re: What happened to GG?

PostPosted by sweetmm » Tue Apr 12, 2016 2:52 pm

missemma wrote:
sweetmm wrote:I used to call you guys Golden Girls during the meet-ups (but the term GG is now defunct) 8-) is diamond aggressive (sorry I am not up-to-date with urban words) :|

What I meant was only those who had openly met-up are safe to interact with e.g. missemma and the golden/diamond girls.


& here was me thinking you were using it because I am nice and shiny just like a diamond :lol: :lol:

(do you like our new admin ranks sweetmm?) :thanks: :thanks:


Ofcourse its because you guys shine and most of all can cut unbreakable objects 8-)

Yep lovely name :ribena: ;) our own tough shiny guards.
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Re: What happened to GG?

PostPosted by spider » Tue Apr 12, 2016 3:43 pm

jaej wrote:
Trigger Warning :
slight sexual abuse mention? id rather just be safe and put the trigger in
one remark i remember in particular was a post he made in the danisnotonfire tag stating that 'every 14 year old dangirl should choke on my dick'
i seriously, seriously doubt it was illegal, but i'd been suspicious that he was one of the two for a long time, from his general typing to habit of posting theories as confirmed facts and getting defensive about it

That's really nasty even for illegal if it was him. Always been confused why he made such homophobic comments about Dan despite being gay himself. If he made that comment about Dangirls it's extremely misogynistic not to mention creepy since it was about underage girls.
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Re: What happened to GG?

PostPosted by sweetmm » Tue Apr 12, 2016 4:34 pm

We value inputs by everyone here but we are in an open forum; unfortunately the other party is not here to give his version/defence, so we have to consider to read whatever written merely as gossip/one's assumption. Maybe if other old-time lurkers can give more inputs then it throws more light to the incident :2thumbsup:

At the same time, thanks for sharing guys :platonic:

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Re: What happened to GG?

PostPosted by angrymob » Wed Apr 13, 2016 10:20 am

Is GG even usable right now? I've been trying to get on for the last hour with no success, and I don't think I'm banned. I haven't done anything.
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Re: What happened to GG?

PostPosted by SquishPhan » Wed Apr 13, 2016 10:32 am

angrymob wrote:Is GG even usable right now? I've been trying to get on for the last hour with no success, and I don't think I'm banned. I haven't done anything.

Doesn't really work for me either right now, the signing in process is either not working or working very slowly. I'm glad that this forum doesn't have those issues.
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Re: What happened to GG?

PostPosted by aralik » Wed Apr 13, 2016 10:35 am

angrymob wrote:Is GG even usable right now? I've been trying to get on for the last hour with no success, and I don't think I'm banned. I haven't done anything.


i'm able to access the d&p thread on tapatalk (the only one i used to lurk) the latest post there is by sweetmm from yesterday.
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Re: What happened to GG?

PostPosted by lilMango » Wed Apr 13, 2016 3:02 pm

I try to check up on the D+P forum every once in a while but it's honestly just so tiring to maneuver on that site! It takes me like 5 whole minutes just to log in and load up a page. It logs me out every five seconds. GG needs to get their :philtrash: together. (there's no poop emoji so thats what u get)
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Re: What happened to GG?

PostPosted by sweetmm » Wed Apr 13, 2016 3:20 pm

The connection is very bad :shock: I think its time for Gigi to change platform.

I can't use the "View Your Posts" link at all :(
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Re: What happened to GG?

PostPosted by swofro » Wed Apr 13, 2016 9:02 pm

mermaid blood wrote:well, this happened for a start: (26/3)

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Quoting mermaid's picture for comparison, now the rule (in the welcome page) states this.

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*Moddies and Admin have the right to edit or delete posts as necessary based on the previously stated rules!* And UNLESS OTHERWISE STATED BY AN ADMIN, Moderators are REQUIRED TO STRICTLY ADHERE TO THESE RULES THEMSELVES! 

Giving them benefit of the doubt, it is a good thing that maybe they realise how bad they have mess up with the site and try to fix it.

But seriously, they are super inconsistent with the site. Smh. :tsk:
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Re: What happened to GG?

PostPosted by human » Wed Apr 13, 2016 10:06 pm

I like the rule changes but it is too late, you can't treat your live forum with tens of thousands of members as a testing ground where you chop and change everything whenever you feel like it. Especially rules. I dislike the new rule anyway, staff shouldn't have the right to invisibly edit posts whenever they want. I mean, geez. Do they go around removing all criticism of them so they look awesome? It's laughable.

But hey. It's a privately owned site so it's their right to do what they want. And our right to leave if we don't like it. I think it would take a lot more work to get GG anywhere near having a good enough reputation for people to use it because they love it and not purely for convenience.
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Re: What happened to GG?

PostPosted by missemma » Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:21 am

swofro wrote:Additional Information
*Moddies and Admin have the right to edit or delete posts as necessary based on the previously stated rules!* And UNLESS OTHERWISE STATED BY AN ADMIN, Moderators are REQUIRED TO STRICTLY ADHERE TO THESE RULES THEMSELVES! 

Unfortunately, it's all a bit late for me. They should have enforced this rule about moderators & even the admin sticking to the rules when it all went sour. Instead they treated us like children, and the way Morgan has replied to some people in the so called "feel free to come and rant in here" just makes me uncomfortable. Plus, it's got a reputation as a trash site and not a very nice place.

I feel much more relaxed in here, and I hope people feel they are able to post positively without being constantly told "this place is like tumblr/this is a gossip site so expect people to hate watch".
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Re: What happened to GG?

PostPosted by karma_yeah » Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:21 pm

I'm afraid I don't really have much of value to add, but I just logged in and haven't been banned. I was worried I might because I PM'd some folks the IDB link (which gg kindly changed to useless for me).

Also, I have to admit it's validating to read that it wasn't just me who was put off by illegal. There were so many times he would post something that gave off a condescending, passive aggressive vibe. I'm sooo glad to be gone from there. I never felt comfortable. There's definitely something about Dan that hits a nerve with him (I'm just not interested enough in him to speculate as to what that might be). :rofl:
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