papierklemmen wrote:interesting point about their friends and colleagues from 2009/2010 - i'm wondering that myself. but at the end of the day, it's safe to say that there is no "milking of a non-existent homosexual relationship" in the eyes of those who's not invested in them. after a year of casual watching i didn't suspect anything, because they are very blatant (HA!) in their mocking of shipping culture. they never cross the line into the real world - all "shipping" moments are played up jokes and they make sure it gets through to the viewer. i figure a gay friend wouldn't be offended to see them mock their shippers - it's out of their control and they do the best they can in this situation.
yeah, I agree, they acknowledge shipping culture but don't really do any obvious shipbaiting in my opinion (on the other hand, why did they put cute moments together on their
Phil's tourbusbed in the trailer for the documentary? they know exactly how to play us). But as we know, other youtubers are very aware of what the phandom is up to and how it reacts to anything danandphil. Quite a lot of people mentioned after #busgate or some other time that if it turned out deppy weren't together, they would see their behaviour in another light, as something morally questionable, and I think some of their old youtube-colleagues who didn't manage to make it on youtube might see it the same way. But who knows.
, I majored in Japanese studies!!
Ooh, Charlie talk - my favorite topic and I'm too busy working to contribute to the extent I'd like.
But I will point out that Charlie only had the negative attitude toward closeted/successful youtubers from around 2012 onward. If you're taking his comments as evidence to legitimize or de-legitimatize Dan and Phil as a couple/their sexuality then you should be looking at some of his older tweets, too - not just the ones where he had a bone to pick with them. A few that immediately come to mind:
Charlie openly talking about their sexuality (almost as if he weren't aware he was supposed to not):
But citing that their relationship is no one's business:
Yeah, they seem to have been really friendly for quite some time. When/why did this change, what do you think? (I really want to hear more of your opinions on Charlie!!)
And Charlie talking about their sexuality, well, they both said they were bisexual on formspring, didn't they, so he was only confirming something they already said themselves.
Also, pretty off-topic, but what do you make of Adam's response to Dan's sushi roll tweet?