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Re: Bingo Board Bants

PostPosted by annetamiau » Thu Dec 08, 2016 8:31 am

papierklemmen wrote:i think their behavior is very explainable when you look at it from the "not dating" point of view though. they were obviously close friends who had no limits on how they expressed their affection for each other, everyone around them knew they were not a couple, their fans "shipping" them was just ridiculous fun - especially since even at the time they clarified anything that might have come off too "gay" :sideeye: , like when dan asked if phil wants to have an "interrobang" and phil said "not with you" etc., but with the leak that looked really suspicious they got an influx of fans who were actually tinhatting them to the point of compiling their past interactions into pdf files, "connecting the dots" and distributing it like legit proof. they got annoyed, scared and humiliated. yes, no matter how much someone supports lgbt+ rights, some men people can't handle very public speculations about their sexuality and try to put on a more macho and bro-like persona and decrease the interactions in an attempt to end the rumours. but it was obviously not their true self so it faded with time, and now we even can see them mocking the bro culture in their millionaire video.

if they are dating, then idk guys... then they must have gone through a rollercoaster of identity crises and i bet it wasn't pretty

(btw, i know nothing about 1D but i saw this quote about "larry" from their co-grouper and it sums up the same kind of situation pretty well)

Referring to 'Larry Stylinson' - the make-believe joint name for members Harry Styles and Louis Tomlinson, who Directioners have theorised are secretly in a romance - he said: 'There's no secret relationships going on with any of the band members.' The young star, who found fame on The X Factor with the other lads back in 2010, added that it caused problems for Louis and Harry, who couldn't even act like normal friends around each other.

'It's not funny, and it still continues to be quite hard for them,' he added, showing a bit of sympathy for his former co-stars in an interview that otherwise was altogether more negative. 'They won't naturally go put their arm around each other because they're conscious of this thing that's going on, which is not even true. They won't do that.'


Honestly, I barely post, but you tend to make me wanna post more often. First of all, I don't know how you can look at their story and think 'nothing suggests there was ever anything else than friendship'. Like, how? Would you think the same way had they been a boy and a girl?

They clarified 'not being gay for each other'? lol when was that? when dan turned to phil to say he was wearing orange spotty boxers in amazingdan? Honestly I see nothing from their early interactions to even suggest they were making clear they were your typical bros. The interrobang comment you refer to was like 'your mum', and I'm sure you don't think dan really wanted to do phil's mum, do you?

Also, saying that someone that supports LGBT people would get offended at being called gay makes absolutely no sense to me. If you get offended at the thought that someone might think you are not straight, you are not exactly supportive, are you?

And finally, please stop comparing larry to phan. I've noticed you've done it a few times, probably to make phan shippers look like deluded moody teenagers that won't take a 'no' for an answer. Believe me, I knew nothing about fandoms before dan and phil, and it took me like 10 seconds of looking up larry to realise it had 0 chance of being a real thing. It's not heart eyes or casual touching that make people believe dan and phil might be in a relationship, it's the bigger picture.
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Re: Bingo Board Bants

PostPosted by papierklemmen » Thu Dec 08, 2016 9:20 am

annetamiau wrote:
papierklemmen wrote:i think their behavior is very explainable when you look at it from the "not dating" point of view though. they were obviously close friends who had no limits on how they expressed their affection for each other, everyone around them knew they were not a couple, their fans "shipping" them was just ridiculous fun - especially since even at the time they clarified anything that might have come off too "gay" :sideeye: , like when dan asked if phil wants to have an "interrobang" and phil said "not with you" etc., but with the leak that looked really suspicious they got an influx of fans who were actually tinhatting them to the point of compiling their past interactions into pdf files, "connecting the dots" and distributing it like legit proof. they got annoyed, scared and humiliated. yes, no matter how much someone supports lgbt+ rights, some men people can't handle very public speculations about their sexuality and try to put on a more macho and bro-like persona and decrease the interactions in an attempt to end the rumours. but it was obviously not their true self so it faded with time, and now we even can see them mocking the bro culture in their millionaire video.

if they are dating, then idk guys... then they must have gone through a rollercoaster of identity crises and i bet it wasn't pretty

(btw, i know nothing about 1D but i saw this quote about "larry" from their co-grouper and it sums up the same kind of situation pretty well)

Referring to 'Larry Stylinson' - the make-believe joint name for members Harry Styles and Louis Tomlinson, who Directioners have theorised are secretly in a romance - he said: 'There's no secret relationships going on with any of the band members.' The young star, who found fame on The X Factor with the other lads back in 2010, added that it caused problems for Louis and Harry, who couldn't even act like normal friends around each other.

'It's not funny, and it still continues to be quite hard for them,' he added, showing a bit of sympathy for his former co-stars in an interview that otherwise was altogether more negative. 'They won't naturally go put their arm around each other because they're conscious of this thing that's going on, which is not even true. They won't do that.'


Honestly, I barely post, but you tend to make me wanna post more often. First of all, I don't know how you can look at their story and think 'nothing suggests there was ever anything else than friendship'. Like, how? Would you think the same way had they been a boy and a girl?

They clarified 'not being gay for each other'? lol when was that? when dan turned to phil to say he was wearing orange spotty boxers in amazingdan? Honestly I see nothing from their early interactions to even suggest they were making clear they were your typical bros. The interrobang comment you refer to was like 'your mum', and I'm sure you don't think dan really wanted to do phil's mum, do you?

Also, saying that someone that supports LGBT people would get offended at being called gay makes absolutely no sense to me. If you get offended at the thought that someone might think you are not straight, you are not exactly supportive, are you?

And finally, please stop comparing larry to phan. I've noticed you've done it a few times, probably to make phan shippers look like deluded moody teenagers that won't take a 'no' for an answer. Believe me, I knew nothing about fandoms before dan and phil, and it took me like 10 seconds of looking up larry to realise it had 0 chance of being a real thing. It's not heart eyes or casual touching that make people believe dan and phil might be in a relationship, it's the bigger picture.


look, i don't know why you take such personal offence at me sharing my opinion here. everything is speculation and a point of view, so please relax. i'm not going to reply to your points because it'll be like talking to a wall anyway ("to make phan shippers look deluded moody teenagers that won't take a "no" for an answer", really? conspiracy much) and it's not a hill i want to die on.
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Re: Bingo Board Bants

PostPosted by CallMeAyana » Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:44 am

...Nothing else to add to the current discussion, but I find it interesting on how most of the view count in Phil's content is very consistent. Most of the time, it's 1.9M-2M, and, like any YTer, his view count increases if it's a collab, but not exactly 5M over the norm. Same with Dan's, but Dan's tend to range along the line of 3M-5M, and for me, I think that it's quite a good thing. If you compare their view counts to other vloggers (...they're vloggers, right? I'm sorry), it's quite an impressive amount, even if they have a monthly uploading schedule, unlike those other vloggers who upload daily or weekly. Like, Deppy's view count is quite proportional to their number of subs- at least a half of the number of their subs seems to be watching their videos. I only checked a few vloggers, so I'm not exactly sure, but their view count is not exactly... quite proprtional to their subs. I mean, YT still has that glitch(I think?), so my numbers are (probably) not exactly right, but... it's like, only 1/5-1/3 of their subs seems to watch their content... or less.
...I think that this has been discussed before somewhere... along the line...
P.S. Does rewatching add another view count? If yes, then even if not a half of Deppy's subs watch their videos, they're still very interesting to rewatch.
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Re: Bingo Board Bants

PostPosted by gnostic » Tue Dec 13, 2016 12:35 pm

CallMeAyana wrote:...Nothing else to add to the current discussion, but I find it interesting on how most of the view count in Phil's content is very consistent. Most of the time, it's 1.9M-2M, and, like any YTer, his view count increases if it's a collab, but not exactly 5M over the norm. Same with Dan's, but Dan's tend to range along the line of 3M-5M, and for me, I think that it's quite a good thing. If you compare their view counts to other vloggers (...they're vloggers, right? I'm sorry), it's quite an impressive amount, even if they have a monthly uploading schedule, unlike those other vloggers who upload daily or weekly. Like, Deppy's view count is quite proportional to their number of subs- at least a half of the number of their subs seems to be watching their videos. I only checked a few vloggers, so I'm not exactly sure, but their view count is not exactly... quite proprtional to their subs. I mean, YT still has that glitch(I think?), so my numbers are (probably) not exactly right, but... it's like, only 1/5-1/3 of their subs seems to watch their content... or less.
...I think that this has been discussed before somewhere... along the line...
P.S. Does rewatching add another view count? If yes, then even if not a half of Deppy's subs watch their videos, they're still very interesting to rewatch.


Less videos = more views per video is a pretty solid formula generally. With daily vloggers or gamers, significantly less people have time, dedication, and desire to watch all of their content (especially if it's varied and everyone picks something they are interested in). And incentive to re watch is less, both because there is always new content and a lot of old content is frankly forgettable in the face of it. On the other end of the scale you have someone like Jontron, who may have 2 million subs but 6-10 million views bc mother fucker could go months without uploading

That said, I do think that Deppy have a very loyal fan base and can count on steadier stream of views... and those rewatchez for moments of ship feels sure help
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Re: Bingo Board Bants

PostPosted by papierklemmen » Tue Dec 27, 2016 4:09 am

a very random question, because someone mentioned the uma thurman tweet yesterday, and it reminded me that i wondered about it before: does anyone know if people took this tweet literally at the time? i remember reading the timeline and thinking that this tweet (and the subsequent one with an attached picture) stood out like a sore thumb among dan's other tweets referring to his relationships/sex life. yes, he did post nudes, but for the most part all comments on (supposedly) his love life were toned done before he got formspring (all i see is cherry, all i feel is cherry). and then there was this blatant I JUST HAD SEX.
like, there was a tweet from phil that had no context but people obviously assumed he was talking about a video game or the like ("i just got stabbed and dan watched" or smth) because no one would assume he literally got stabbed somewhere in the alleyway. so yeah, just that.
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Re: Bingo Board Bants

PostPosted by alittledizzy » Tue Dec 27, 2016 8:31 am

papierklemmen wrote:a very random question, because someone mentioned the uma thurman tweet yesterday, and it reminded me that i wondered about it before: does anyone know if people took this tweet literally at the time? i remember reading the timeline and thinking that this tweet (and the subsequent one with an attached picture) stood out like a sore thumb among dan's other tweets referring to his relationships/sex life. yes, he did post nudes, but for the most part all comments on (supposedly) his love life were toned done before he got formspring (all i see is cherry, all i feel is cherry). and then there was this blatant I JUST HAD SEX.
like, there was a tweet from phil that had no context but people obviously assumed he was talking about a video game or the like ("i just got stabbed and dan watched" or smth) because no one would assume he literally got stabbed somewhere in the alleyway. so yeah, just that.


There aren't many replies (because Dan didn't have many followers at that point - for perspective, he didn't hit 4000 twitter followers until the end of December) but yes, all the ones visible now indicate people assumed he and Phil had sex - besides a couple people who just commenting on Kill Bill. The assumption never went corrected by anyone.

If you're curious in seeing both of their tweets from that week lined up, I archived everything remaining a while back. (The condom wrappers one is my fave.)
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Re: Bingo Board Bants

PostPosted by papierklemmen » Tue Dec 27, 2016 12:36 pm

alittledizzy wrote:
papierklemmen wrote:a very random question, because someone mentioned the uma thurman tweet yesterday, and it reminded me that i wondered about it before: does anyone know if people took this tweet literally at the time? i remember reading the timeline and thinking that this tweet (and the subsequent one with an attached picture) stood out like a sore thumb among dan's other tweets referring to his relationships/sex life. yes, he did post nudes, but for the most part all comments on (supposedly) his love life were toned done before he got formspring (all i see is cherry, all i feel is cherry). and then there was this blatant I JUST HAD SEX.
like, there was a tweet from phil that had no context but people obviously assumed he was talking about a video game or the like ("i just got stabbed and dan watched" or smth) because no one would assume he literally got stabbed somewhere in the alleyway. so yeah, just that.


There aren't many replies (because Dan didn't have many followers at that point - for perspective, he didn't hit 4000 twitter followers until the end of December) but yes, all the ones visible now indicate people assumed he and Phil had sex - besides a couple people who just commenting on Kill Bill. The assumption never went corrected by anyone.

If you're curious in seeing both of their tweets from that week lined up, I archived everything remaining a while back. (The condom wrappers one is my fave.)


thanks! lmao the condom wrappers comment... :somuch:
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Re: Bingo Board Bants

PostPosted by melon lord » Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:17 pm

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Charlie knows what's up :lol: especially after that stunning pic of Phil
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Re: Bingo Board Bants

PostPosted by CallMeAyana » Tue Dec 27, 2016 11:34 pm

melon lord wrote:Image

Charlie knows what's up :lol: especially after that stunning pic of Phil

I guess I'm not an idiot, then ;)
Ah... And Charlie looks like Dan back then, so do you guys think that it's one of the factors why Phil got attracted to Dan? :?
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