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Re: A Thanks Button - Your Opinions

Post by MythicalPinkTrashCan » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:02 pm

I personally don't think it should be allowed to turn anon thanks. If you agree, agree publicly. I understand anxiety but I worry about like what happened before with the weird pro TERF posts and people being like "I'm gonna thanks this TERF but on anon so no one knows I'm also a TERF."

Ravelry has my favorite forum buttons, (it's yarn/fiber arts social media website that recently very publicly removed all Pro-Trump threads)

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They use an anon system as well, but it feels less risky since they have public denounced certain beliefs.



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Re: A Thanks Button - Your Opinions

Post by jesp » Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:41 pm

MythicalPinkTrashCan wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:02 pm
I personally don't think it should be allowed to turn anon thanks. If you agree, agree publicly. I understand anxiety but I worry about like what happened before with the weird pro TERF posts and people being like "I'm gonna thanks this TERF but on anon so no one knows I'm also a TERF."
There's no option for anonymous thanks, it's more that we can set a certain number of thanks on a post to be displayed as usernames then any thanks given after that will show as a number. That option is set to 5 at the moment, but can be raised easily if we go ahead with a site-wide trial.

I think that when it comes to contentious topics, like the pro-TERF posts recently, users are likely to reply and share their feelings with or without a thanks button. We saw this a while back with the discussions around Dan and Phil respecting other cultures after a potentially insensitive caption on a picture of a First Nations monument in tabinof - people discussed this for many pages and I believe this type of discussion would not have been hindered by a thanks button. We also saw this with the TERF discussion, people posted in agreement with the points raised and more people posted in disagreement.

I think, if anything, a thanks button may discourage people from posting during normal discussions rather than during heated discussions.
MythicalPinkTrashCan wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:02 pm
Ravelry has my favorite forum buttons, (it's yarn/fiber arts social media website that recently very publicly removed all Pro-Trump threads)

Educational Interesting Funny Agree Disagree Love

They use an anon system as well, but it feels less risky since they have public denounced certain beliefs.
I would argue that a rating system for posts would do more to harm discussion on this forum than the option of thanking or not thanking a poster. We aren't able to add rating options to posts either way, though.
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Re: A Thanks Button - Your Opinions

Post by eevee » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:15 pm

I love that there's no counter, as people were always so interested in keeping their given/received ratio favorable.

For a long time I really loved that there was no thanks button and I always hoped IDB would stay that way...but after coming back from my break and seeing some of the recent discussions, including the heated discussion recently about radical feminism, I think that IDB has done a great job at fostering respectful conversations only. My issue with the thanks button was that heated discussions and drama were difficult to differentiate, and the thanks button made a ganging up bullying type culture that i always hated. I haven't been back for long, but it doesn't seem like IDB is a place for drama, so I'm not sure that would be an issue. I've recently found myself wanting to thank posts on here too!

I think the main thing to look out for would be if the thanks button turns heated/controversial/passionate discussions into drama, or makes them feel more like drama to someone who may not have a majority opinion. I think that's a potential but I'm not 100% sure.

In short, I like the trial period :)
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Re: A Thanks Button - Your Opinions

Post by jesp » Mon Jul 22, 2019 5:35 pm

Thanks to everyone for your replies in this thread. As things stand we're most likely going to start a trial of the thanks button across the forum in the next couple of days.

The thanks button will not be available in some parts of the forum, including the Dan and Phil faq and global announcements {like the forum faq found at the top of each forum}.

We'll reset the thanks that have been given to posts in this thread before we start the trial. We'll most likely set the thanks displayed as usernames on posts to 10 to begin with and adjust as needed.

Just to make sure people are aware, it is very unlikely but we may have to disable the button if there are compatibility issues or if it leads to a negative environment. We'll ask again for people's thoughts after everyone has had a chance to trial it across the forum.

Let us know if you have any further thoughts, positive or negative - if you'd rather talk to us in private, you can send me or another mod a PM.
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Re: A Thanks Button - Your Opinions

Post by MythicalPinkTrashCan » Sun Aug 18, 2019 4:53 pm

My feedback on the button now that it's been a bit

I don't enjoy that it has to reload the page after being clicked. I forget everytime I click it and then have to wait patiently for it to load? How dare the button make me wait for .001 of a second.

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