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Re: Jack and Dean

Post by 000dia000 » Tue Nov 01, 2016 4:35 pm


BIG ANNOUNCEMENT (Not a book, obviously) - JACK AND DEAN
Well...just the title itself is enough to grind my gears.
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Re: Jack and Dean

Post by Catallena » Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:08 pm

They really think they're hot shit don't they?

'Not a book, obviously'

Well that's because no one wants to offer your irrelevant asses a book deal in the first place.

As if they'd be so above accepting a big wad of cash for a shitty book or two. :roll: They'd be dumb if they were tbh.
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Re: Jack and Dean

Post by Skeletorsrighthand » Wed Nov 02, 2016 6:24 am

you guys really hate jack and dean huh

I do find there content entertaining at times i do think tomskas skits are better my favorite skit from them would probably be mouth pizza.
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Re: Jack and Dean

Post by Catallena » Wed Nov 02, 2016 7:58 pm

They've made some amusing stuff in the past, but all their recent material is predictable and weak imo. I'd be cooler with their mediocrity if they didn't have such a bad attitude on social media towards others all the time.
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Re: Jack and Dean

Post by fancybum » Sat Nov 05, 2016 12:28 am

Hmm.. well ok maybe they haven't broken up..... and they just had a rough week...??
Why do people post cryptic whining to the public. Explain or keep it to yourselves, damn.
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Re: Jack and Dean

Post by Catallena » Sat Nov 05, 2016 2:01 am

There were break up rumors? I don't like either of them, but despite the age difference they make a pretty decent couple so them breaking up would almost make me sad.
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Re: Jack and Dean

Post by fancybum » Sat Nov 05, 2016 2:28 am

I started the breakup rumours on just the previous page lolol. As much as they kind of annoy me more than anything else these days (as individuals), it would be sad. Especially since Hazel's last bf was a sack of crap (according to her). But maybe it's all good..
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Re: Jack and Dean

Post by Catallena » Sat Nov 05, 2016 3:23 am

Lol yeah I just remembered reading that. I follow Jack on Twitter (I don't know why, my general enjoyment of messy people I guess) but usually read over his crap so I went back and I see what you mean. But I guess it was nothing then. Unless they're going the route Carrie and Alex used to go, breaking up but still hanging around together and then getting back together again anyway. I don't think Jack would do that considering he was pretty much in the middle of that crap, but YouTube relationships are always a little messy so you never know.
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Re: Jack and Dean

Post by boredtears » Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:44 pm

This magnificent roast of Jack Howard deserves a place in this thread:


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Re: Jack and Dean

Post by Reizam » Tue Nov 08, 2016 8:05 am

boredtears wrote:This magnificent roast of Jack Howard deserves a place in this thread:

Holy hell that was great :lol:

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Re: Jack and Dean

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fucking savage, im subscribing
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Re: Jack and Dean

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Have you seen this?

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Re: Jack and Dean

Post by Catallena » Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:14 am

Ohh that video is everything and I remember Jack and his friends getting mad about it on Twitter.
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Re: Jack and Dean

Post by alittledizzy » Mon Sep 18, 2017 2:17 pm

So yeah, Jack Howard.

He's a dick.

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Re: Jack and Dean

Post by felucca » Mon Sep 18, 2017 3:28 pm

alittledizzy wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2017 2:17 pm
So yeah, Jack Howard.

He's a dick.
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Re: Jack and Dean

Post by alittledizzy » Mon Sep 18, 2017 3:58 pm

Huh, it appears he's deleted all the tweets from yesterday where he was having his little tantrum?

Basically he said he didn't know why people don't like Jennifer Lawrence. People replied explaining why. He asked for links for proof of things she's said/done. People gave him links. Then he said something to the effect of she's just awkward there's nothing wrong with it (I think in reply to her rape joke) and claimed he'd never asked for a discussion anyway. And there were some sassy responses to Dan and Phil fans mixed in there.

Then I think somehow the topic moved onto Woody Allen and he talked about how Woody Allen was his favorite filmmaker despite Jack not approving of Woody's "lifestyle" and people took a lot of offense to child molestation being called a lifestyle. Looks like those are gone now too, shocker.

Hopefully someone will come along with screencaps in case my memory isn't fully accurate.

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Re: Jack and Dean

Post by The_Blonde » Mon Sep 18, 2017 6:13 pm

alittledizzy wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2017 3:58 pm
Then I think somehow the topic moved onto Woody Allen and he talked about how Woody Allen was his favorite filmmaker despite Jack not approving of Woody's "lifestyle" and people took a lot of offense to child molestation being called a lifestyle. Looks like those are gone now too, shocker.

Hopefully someone will come along with screencaps in case my memory isn't fully accurate.
That's exactly what happened (I was watching it in "real time" and was just waiting for him to delete them. I mean, lifestyle, really? ) I did love him actively asking for proof and then saying "I never asked for a discussion anyway", or something along those lines, when people provided said proof and he couldn't find a way to respond to them maturely.

He's always irritated me in the sort of pretentious ~*creator*~ way (I have no real opinion on Dean beyond wondering why he has to have his hand under his chin in all his photos like he's a 1950s starlet) but I didn't expect that sort of level of dickery. Still haven't found screencaps though :spy:

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Re: Jack and Dean

Post by Catallena » Mon Sep 18, 2017 6:17 pm

That's such typical film buff shit, I wish I was surprised. I bet he's totally okay with Roman Polanski as well.
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Re: Jack and Dean

Post by sentinel » Mon Sep 18, 2017 7:32 pm

Jack is insufferable, more news at 11. He and Hazel are so snobby and annoying. I like how they advertise their mediocre content as "deep youtube content"(tm)
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Post by onetruetrash » Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:55 pm

Jack and Hazel think they're the shit lmao maybe they'd be more popular if they weren't so arrogant

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Re: Jack and Dean

Post by alittledizzy » Sat Sep 30, 2017 12:44 am

Because I'm a masochist, I listened to this entire podcast with Jack. My opinion of him stands now exactly as it did before; he's a pretentious, smug asshole. A pretty good chunk of it is just him humblebragging about meeting famous people and directing stuff, but I jotted down times of some relevant stuff where he's addressing ~drama.



25:26 - talks about people calling him an asshole on twitter/recent twitter drama over jennifer lawrence
32:09 - talks about making a jab at dan and phil fans
33:40 - emma blackery beef; yes it's real
35:13 - jokes about slitting emma blackery's hamster's throat? ... kay.
40:43 - mentions Chris/crabstickz and Charlie McDonnell

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Post by onetruetrash » Sat Sep 30, 2017 12:50 am

Emma was really upset by what he said about her. Check her Instagram story if you wanna see her reaction.

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Re: Jack and Dean

Post by captainspacecoat » Sat Sep 30, 2017 1:20 am

alittledizzy wrote:
Sat Sep 30, 2017 12:44 am
Because I'm a masochist, I listened to this entire podcast with Jack. My opinion of him stands now exactly as it did before; he's a pretentious, smug asshole. A pretty good chunk of it is just him humblebragging about meeting famous people and directing stuff, but I jotted down times of some relevant stuff where he's addressing ~drama.



25:26 - talks about people calling him an asshole on twitter/recent twitter drama over jennifer lawrence
32:09 - talks about making a jab at dan and phil fans
33:40 - emma blackery beef; yes it's real
35:13 - jokes about slitting emma blackery's hamster's throat? ... kay.
40:43 - mentions Chris/crabstickz and Charlie McDonnell
I feel like you deserve some kind of a reward for making it through that, I barely made it through the bits you timestamped :stan:

Holy shit what a fucking dickhead. How is he so up his own ass? Maybe if people are calling you an "asshole" it's for a reason m8, consider your own behaviour and recognise that you are not holier than your audience by virtue of being, what, a pretentious film buff? My god, he is so insufferable, has he no humility whatsoever?

The bit where he talks about how his audience don't actually pay his rent.... like how dim are you?? No, they don't literally pay him for his content, his rent money comes from ad revenue, sponsorship deals and the show he and Dean make with Fullscreen. But he would have none of that if not for an audience who are willing to watch him, and if his audience were to suddenly lose interest the sponsorship deals would stop, no one would watch his content so ad revenue would dwindle, he'd lose opportunities with companies like Fullscreen, and he'd be forced to find a different way to make money. Also like... there's a reason so many people have Dan and Phil icons, and it's because Dan and Phil have earned the respect of a large number of people as they aren't pretentious twats who think they're god's gift to earth.

He just has no idea how to take responsibility for anything, acting as though the people who call him out are just mindless trolls and not people who genuinely took offence to something he said.

And say what you will about Emma Blackery (god knows I'm not her biggest fan by any means) but joking about slitting her hamster's throat is uncalled for. Hazel's original controversial tweet about Emma's hamster was just plain mean, and I'm so over this whole "lololol I'm just so shady, I'm such a bitch, it's just my personality and if you can't handle it that's on you" thing. Just have some common decency for shit's sake.

Anyway thus concludes my nonsensical rant about Jack Howard (and also Hazel), can't bloody stand the bastard.

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Re: Jack and Dean

Post by fancybum » Sat Sep 30, 2017 3:45 am

alittledizzy wrote:
Sat Sep 30, 2017 12:44 am
25:26 - talks about people calling him an asshole on twitter/recent twitter drama over jennifer lawrence
32:09 - talks about making a jab at dan and phil fans
33:40 - emma blackery beef; yes it's real
35:13 - jokes about slitting emma blackery's hamster's throat? ... kay.
40:43 - mentions Chris/crabstickz and Charlie McDonnell
Omg thank you for this; I briefly considered sitting through that whole thing but even just his voice at this point makes my skin crawl, so I couldn't do it. Yay @ your masochism!

They're! Both! So! Awful! Emma could have just never responded to anything ever again and forever had the higher ground after the hamster thing (BECAUSE WTF. EVEN STILL AFTER ALL THIS TIME. WHO CARES ABOUT A CELEBRITY in terms of personal heartfelt grief COMPARED TO A LIVING THING YOU ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY CARED FOR- I'm sorry but I still have baggage about a friend of mine telling another friend they should put their dead pet rabbit in a stew and truly not understanding why that made her cry but in his defense: HE WAS A LITERAL CHILD AT THE TIME. Last I checked Hazel was in her 30s. Is it ~cool to not understand loving a pet or..? Can't relate.) but no, Emma has to constantly wade in to things that don't involve her and make them all about her (while pretending it's actually a benevolent act with others in mind #notallyoutubeauthors).

Anyway he's truly gross, he just oozes smarminess. Surely he and Hazel haven't always been this bad? Their awfulness has just multiplied since they got together; it sucks when people just bring out and encourage the worst in each other.

And THIS was what pushed him over the edge to his fallback retort when he's too lazy and ignorant to attempt to respond to a person's words rather than their icon??
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Emma was really upset by what he said about her. Check her Instagram story if you wanna see her reaction.
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Sooooo. No part of this was 'vague' but no part actually explained her "side" of the story. She's insinuated a few times now that there's more that goes on behind the scenes that we don't know about, that they're doing or have done ~things, but like. What things? If she's going to bother saying all of that, when everybody knows exactly what she's talking about, like just fucking defend yourself then? Take the extra step? It's not taking the high road to say 'oh yeah well they've done stuff too, but they won't explain what, and neither will I, but just trust me on it' because that just sounds like there's nothing to explain (and is also being weird and manipulative..). Other than that they're just generally douchebags, which we all could have guessed anyway. Like that last twitter drama thing: she literally started it. There was no provocation. So either explain this totally Mysterious But Existent offline provocation or don't talk about it at all. Maybe?? I don't know, they're all garbage.

And the Dean thing is kind of awkward, but also, if they literally never talked (outside of YT things probably), by what definition did she consider him a friend? Friendly, sure, but friend? And not wanting to outright say "oh hey I don't like you btw" when it doesn't need to be said doesn't make Dean a snake, it makes him somebody not interested in unnecessary awkward confrontations or conflict if it can be avoided, like get the fuck over yourself Emma. Not everybody craves a big dramatic showdown with everybody they'd prefer not to talk to, jesus.
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Re: Jack and Dean

Post by alittledizzy » Sat Sep 30, 2017 4:16 am

fancybum wrote:
Sat Sep 30, 2017 3:45 am
And the Dean thing is kind of awkward, but also, if they literally never talked (outside of YT things probably), by what definition did she consider him a friend? Friendly, sure, but friend? And not wanting to outright say "oh hey I don't like you btw" when it doesn't need to be said doesn't make Dean a snake, it makes him somebody not interested in unnecessary awkward confrontations or conflict if it can be avoided, like get the fuck over yourself Emma. Not everybody craves a big dramatic showdown with everybody they'd prefer not to talk to, jesus.
I'm glad the Emma stuff is preserved, we can high five over enduring really frustrating things. I had the same reaction to her; it was a cry for pity and a super fucking manipulative one. You don't get to say 'stay quiet, take the high road' as you're literally broadcasting this whole drama to your instagram following and then insinuating you're also gonna write a song about it.

This is one situation in which I just have no sympathy for either of them (outside of Emma's initial thing with the hamster, because Hazel was just being fucked up and heartless) because they both want the attention, they both revel in the drama, they're both transparent as hell with trying to sound like they are each the Better Person while batting the Ball of Attention Grabbing back and forth between them nonstop. He doesn't want to be sucked into her drama? Great, don't talk about her on a podcast. She doesn't want to give him the attention he wants? Great, don't talk about it on instagram. If they both shut the fuck up then the problem with die forevermore.

But hey, wouldn't be many views in that, would there?

Anyway, the only person I came out of this situation feeling bad for is actually Dean. Dean seems to have been practicing what Jack preaches and just quietly ignoring Emma, so naturally what does Jack do? Make Dean part of that narrative in the podcast. (Plus, he called Dean lazy. I don't even know much about Dean, but I inherently feel like he deserves a better best friend/youtube partner than Jack.)

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