The Attraction Thread (2.0)

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Hi and welcome back!

Or just welcome, in case you're new.

Project Dan & Phil Attraction™ is an initiative to track down the following:
Every time Dan & Phil have ever referenced their sexuality, sexuality in general, their relationship status, past relationships, future relationships, phan, people they're attracted to, or just joked about being attracted to.
Blog:
> The Attraction Blog

Video playlists:
> Dan's playlist
> Phil's playlist
> Joint playlist NEW!

The Attraction Project was started as a counter-act to black and white thinking and is all-inclusive. It does not ignore male mentions or scoff at old Formspring answers like certain "anti phan proof" blogs out there, but it also does not ignore female mentions, straight insinuation or phan denials like a lot of other phandom blogs. We're interested in both sides of the coin. Our goal is to create an easy-access collection of everything Dan and Phil themselves have said on these subjects over the years, and let everyone be free to interpret the collection after their own head. Draw your own conclusions - or don't. Free will, it's neat.

As for this thread... Unleash HELL upon it! Draw as many conclusions as you like! Comment on any clip or screenshot that catches your eye! Previous attraction threads have suffered enjoyed a neverending onslaught of lubegates, furry conspiracies, armchair psychology, fangirling, butt rashes, actual serious discussion and interesting theories being thrown around - and the project recently saw its one year anniversary.

Let's bring the fun to IDB.
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Just to kick things off,
here's a new find I made catching up on a liveshow I only skimmed earlier this year:



Duuuuuude. An entire thread full of people and NO ONE told me that happened?? Shame on you. You're all fired.
no wait, come back

And here are some interesting contrasts for us to ponder over:

Dan reacting to people saying he looks gay

in 2012


in 2015


Being seen with Tyler Oakley

in 2013


in 2016


Two different days in Dan's life

7th August 2012


3rd April 2016


:)

I would make a post like this for Phil too, but he simply doesn't say enough to warrant it.
Godammit, Phil.
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This was one of my favourite threads, I'm so happy to see the new and improved version!!!
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icklebrina wrote::yippee: :yippee:

This was one of my favourite threads, I'm so happy to see the new and improved version!!!
Yay! Welcome here you speedy otter!
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Directly talking about sexuality - evolution

2009-2010
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note: Phil has NEVER mentioned sexuality again after 2009-2010

2011 - Dan, however, has


2012 - Dan's first time answering "are you gay?" on Younow


2013 - Dan's last time answering "are you gay?" on Younow


(2014 - ?)

2015 - Dan's most recent time answering "are you gay?"
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what did Tom Hardy say?
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Directly answering questions about being in a relationship - evolution

2009-2010 - hm?

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2012 - single af


2013 - single i guess


2014-2015 - total radio silence

2016 - same - although this comment is kind of very interesting...?
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I don't have anything to add but I just wanna say that I *love* this thread & how it doesn't pick and choose what to include. A++
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this isn't a very useful addition but i swear to god there is a vyou answer that i havent seen uploaded since it was on the vyou site. it was about what his favourite kpop group, the relevance being that he wolf-whistled at girls generation, at that point in 2011 being a group of 9 girls in matching outfits. definitely a less important video but yeah, i'm sure it exists somewhere and complete playlists are nice!
my name is jaejmine masters and i have something to say. dan and phil have fucked up japan :japhan:
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Dan on tumblr

I happened upon these tumblr asks when scrolling through Dan’s tumblr the other month. They might be old news but I’d personally never seen them before, and I thought they were pretty amusing/interesting. (For one thing, there’s an example of Dan being explicitly asked, “What is your sexual orientation,” not just “Are you gay?” I think they get less attention because he never deleted them, so they lack the allure of his formspring / customerservicedepartment answers.


Tuesday Dec 20 2011 01:19pm

Anonymous asked:
What's your sexual orientation?


danisnotonfire:
catsexual
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Friday Mar 30 2012 09:14pm

Anonymous asked:
No judgement, all god's children. But, you're gay aren't you?


danisnotonfire:
no. haha
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Friday Mar 30 2012 09:16pm

Anonymous asked:
llamasexual?


danisnotonfire:
Yes.
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Wednesday Apr 11 2012 12:47pm

Anonymous asked:
hey! please contest my ask... I do not want to offend... but, you and Phil are gays?I just want to know if it's true, there are many rumors out there


danisnotonfire:
‘gays’ lol. no
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More Dan on Tumblr (privately answered + customerservicedepartment blog)

Then we have the oft-circulated tumblr responses and customerservicedepartment answers:


allisontheepic asked:
asdfghjkl this drama is starting to piss me off. I already know that you’re bisexual. I’ve been watching your videos for as long as you’ve been making them and I was curious ages ago, back when you still had all of your profiles everywhere. Really easy to google. But you know I never shipped Phan, not until I got a tumblr. And now people are pissing me off and I’m ranting in ask box of a person who is probably going to hate me for writing all this but srsly I just shflfjhadhbgtrdjlfbhdjfjdjldvdj


danisnotonfire:
just so you know i wasn’t a particularly good example of a human 3 years ago and i was very prone to both lying and attention seeking.
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2012-12-01 15:02

hithepedalheavymetal asked:
ur so gay and you don’t even like boys


danisnotonfire:
well i do jack off listening to mozart what can i say
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2012-11-04 08:46

kickthebj asked:
stay away from your tag, it’s full of rants and penises atm


danisnotonfire:
omg penises? i am o-ver there
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xyz asked:
What would you do if you met a really hot, lovely, smart, funny girl and she was perfect for you but she had a neck fetish? o.O


customerservicedepartment:
If she was THE ONE I guess I’d either have to wear one of those dog lampshade things for the rest of my life or just hypnotise her while she sleeps. It’d be worth it in the end.
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Monday Oct 24 2011 03:18pm

Anonymous asked:
If you were a teenage girl which member of One Direction would you fancy and why?


danisnotonfire:
zayn because of his face.
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Sunday Feb 19 2012 01:06pm

Anonymous asked:
if a girl has a lot of stretch marks, does that make her unattractive? :/


danisnotonfire:
no i’m quite weird (orami?) in that i like things like scars/bruises/veins/dark eyes etc
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Monday Dec 19 2011 02:08pm

naomiarsyad asked:
If you could choose one female celebrity to be in your videos, who will it be? And why?


danisnotonfire:
tilda swinton. i would lick sugar off her body
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Friday Apr 27 2012 01:31am

Anonymous asked:
So you like reading about milk enemas?


danisnotonfire:
god i read that think when it was ryden like a million years ago or whenever that was. you guys aren’t half as internet creepy as me

i’ll be honest though, i remember at the time thinking i knew most things about sex ..but that.. yeah
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Phil on Formspring

No alcohol or no sex? ;D

no alcohol! xD

phil responded 3 months ago
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Are you bi?

Yeah. Tho I don’t really label myself as anything :]

phil responded one year ago
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How did u find out you were bi ? Btw i love you alot <3

Hey he’s hot!
Huh Phil? OH WAIT
Um.

phil responded 9 months ago
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i find the fact that you’re bi even more attractive than if you were straight. i don’t know why.

wahey =D

phil responded 3 months ago
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Who was the last person you wanted to kiss?

__ __ __

phil responded 2 years ago
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Pr0n?

Pl0x

phil responded 3 months ago
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You seem so innocent! Have you ever been to a strip club? xD

hahaa i’m not that innocent :3
BUtt no i haven’t!! i would feel awkward in a strip club. unless i was with friends who were all there to laugh

phil responded 3 months ago
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(From Phil's old blog amazingphil.blogspot.com)

F: Are you attracted to men? women? or lions?

All 3!

Posted by AmazingPhil on Friday, 20 November 2009
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Dan on Formspring

what does sex taste/smell like? O_o

cherry apparently

Dan responded one year ago
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What’s sex like? ^_^

cherry

Dan responded one year ago
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(plz note that he is responding to Phil here)
do you prefer cherry or pinocolada

pinacolada tastes nicer and was less of an all consuming sticky onslaught than cherry.. but i think i had some sort of reaction to it xD

Dan responded to phil, one year ago
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Do you swallow?

i will if they insist, or to be polite, but i dont like the taste

Dan responded 11 months ago
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have you ever been in love? if so who with?

id say 3 times. [norly]
maybe once cant count as real love
then the next was, but it wasnt happy love
then the 3rd time is the best time ever. real true requited love which is the best feeling in the world <3

Dan responded one year ago
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Is it really true you’re not a virgin?

no that was a vicious rumour.
¬_¬

i had been in a relationship with a girl for 3 years and i loved her, im 18 years old, no im not a virgin

permanent end of discussion

Dan responded 10 months ago
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do you consider yourself pansexual? (meaning you fall for only personality and gender isn’t a factor)

i guess so but looks are also important xD

Dan responded 2 years ago
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I’m gay, you say you are not gay, why do you follow Brent Corrighan on your twitter. The GAY porn star,

lmfao.
im bi! not gay though, im still attracted to girls.

as for that, he was having an arguement with chris crocker and jefree star on twitter and i wanted to be able to watch all the fighting.

Dan responded 12 months ago
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what would happen if you had a baby with the last person you kissed?

there would be a serious breach in the laws of biology

Dan responded 11 months ago
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What is your favorite body part of a person of your gender choice?

girl/boy nice bum, face, eyes, hair
girl/nice tummy
boy/nice chest, back

Dan responded 10 months ago
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Do you prefer to spoon or be spooned? (Spooner vs. Spoonee)

be spooned

Dan responded one year ago
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What is the coolest/ weirdest thing you’ve ever bought online?

probably the lifesize cut out of anthony padilla i keep in my bed

Dan responded one year ago
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Would you do Crabstickz?

yes.

Dan responded 5 months ago
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Are there any common misconceptions about you? Assumptions people make that simply aren’t true?

yeah i DO NOT have a poster of charlieissocoollike ironed onto my pillow

anymore

Dan responded one year ago
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I posted this on another site and I'm transferring it over here because I still think it was fascinating as heck.

I noticed something about Dan and Phil’s apparent interpretations of the chimp’s gender in the Chimbot video. Mainly, throughout the whole video, they call it “it.” But for the first two-thirds of the video they also use “he” sometimes. Then, after asking it on a date, Phil abruptly switches to calling it “she,” while Dan sticks with “he”…and then switches to “they” at the very end. I found this interesting but maybe I’m reading way too much into it.

1:17 - Dan: "Apparently he can't spell either."
3:19 - Phil: "He's been watching us."
3:30 - Phil: "No he isn't!"
3:32 - Dan: "Imagine if he'd said 'yes' just then."
3:34 - Phil: "Why's he keep talking about the Winchesters?”

5:50 - Phil asks it out on a date

6:19 - Phil: “She’s nodding."
6:40 - Dan: “Nothing at all? Ayy...That’s what he's hinting at."
7:39 - Phil: "Does she think that I'm a robot as well?"
7:52 - Dan: "We have to help them manifest themself in a physical body; we need to download them into a corpse.”
felucca wrote:Phil and heteronormative language strikes again! Only good thing to come out of that mess of a video tbh, thank you oqua for noticing.
The video:
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i have another relevant-but-not-that-exciting additions to the thread with dan attractions/sexuality things, but i'll spoiler it because the thread is so tidy and i don't like messing it up

POINT 1 - allison harvard
didn't dan express attraction to allison harvard in 2011? this is really dificult to back up because all i can find now is 2 posts of her on his tumblr, but he has done a few clearouts of his tumblr and i'm sure there was more.
the main reason i actually remember this is that at the time dan reblogged a lot of (usually sexual) blood posts and spoke about how he was really into blood and the second link (basically a warning here) was her with bowls of fake blood.
this was just before i started to get back into him so i remember the posts really clearly, but since i never see anyone talking about it (the blood or allison) i'm kind of :? about it
http://danisnotonfire.tumblr.com/post/10287335269
http://danisnotonfire.tumblr.com/post/10373030534

the next couple of links are just some of the blood stuff that is still on his tumblr so yeah dont click if you're not a fan of that
http://danisnotonfire.tumblr.com/post/8640406965
http://danisnotonfire.tumblr.com/post/10372158430/
http://danisnotonfire.tumblr.com/post/13636092036
POINT 2 - lightning and hope
another old dan tumblr attraction thing (though to fictional characters idk if that counts)
less complicated: posts female character, says is 'dream girl', 2 minutes later reblogs male character from same game, 'scratch that'/'that will do just fine'
http://danisnotonfire.tumblr.com/post/16286619544/
http://danisnotonfire.tumblr.com/post/16286660049/
this isn't particularly serious but it shows he made references to attractive males in late 2011 (month or two before vday leak)
POINT 3 - andrew wells
i can't say whether or not this is a sexual attraction, but he very much welcomed a fanfic about him and the guy, so... dan ambiguously bisexual until the comics anyway andrew from buffy (tom lenk)

http://danisnotonfire.tumblr.com/post/8755059478/
http://danisnotonfire.tumblr.com/post/8659410455/
http://danisnotonfire.tumblr.com/post/8754877871/
http://danisnotonfire.tumblr.com/post/8755036314

and the fanfic asks

http://danisnotonfire.tumblr.com/post/8663928744/
http://danisnotonfire.tumblr.com/post/8753607787/
http://danisnotonfire.tumblr.com/post/8755761746/

again just 2011 male attraction. and also proof that he has good taste because andrew is
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felucca wrote:Just to kick things off,
here's a new find I made catching up on a liveshow I only skimmed earlier this year:



Duuuuuude. An entire thread full of people and NO ONE told me that happened?? Shame on you. You're all fired.
no wait, come back
kicking myself, because i remember watching this at the time and being like, 'Dan, only you would draw attention to the literal meaning of that phrase'. :lol:

bless this thread, like a phoenix from the ashes. text/off camera attraction mentions are less talked about i feel, so i'm excited to see them stack up.
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wait wait wait

was it Dan who added the "hng."?

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Because, I meann.....
jaej wrote:POINT 2 - lightning and hope
another old dan tumblr attraction thing (though to fictional characters idk if that counts)
less complicated: posts female character, says is 'dream girl', 2 minutes later reblogs male character from same game, 'scratch that'/'that will do just fine'
http://danisnotonfire.tumblr.com/post/16286619544/
http://danisnotonfire.tumblr.com/post/16286660049/
this isn't particularly serious but it shows he made references to attractive males in late 2011 (month or two before vday leak)


Bless you jaej. And bless androgynous FF characters. We've actually got those posts up on the Attraction Blog already but I never knew Hope was a man.

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2011 Dan could be very bisexual when he felt like it:



^This one, of course, ties in with the bloodplay you mentioned too, jaej. Dan's attracted to Jessica and wants her to suck his blood, whoa boy keep it in ur pants. And Godric's invited to suck on him too, judging by the hng pic above (he's a vampire in True Blood as well). Dan vampire kink confirmed?

;)

merm I agree, not enough attention is given to text and picture based comments. I want to focus more on the Attraction Blog when I get the chance, see what can be done to improve it. No idea how since I DON'T know how tumblr works at all (I'm old, help) but I'm sure I'll be bored one of these days and just suddenly get it, hah. We've definitely been neglecting it a bit - I've got a few screenshots (including some new ones from jaej and oqua ) that should be included asap.

If D&P come out before I've got everything sorted I'ma be mad.
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felucca wrote:wait wait wait

was it Dan who added the "hng."?

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Because, I meann.....
Yes. If someone else had written it their username would be above the comment.
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spider wrote:
felucca wrote:wait wait wait

was it Dan who added the "hng."?

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Because, I meann.....
Yes. If someone else had written it their username would be above the comment.
Which year is it from?
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felucca wrote:
spider wrote:
felucca wrote:wait wait wait

was it Dan who added the "hng."?

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Because, I meann.....
Yes. If someone else had written it their username would be above the comment.
Which year is it from?
18 September 2011.

Lol, I'm still appreciating the tag "godric true blood beinmydreamstonight."

Fel, Dan's tumblr is a gold mine. I think I should write you a tumblr tutorial!
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oqua wrote:18 September 2011.

Lol, I'm still appreciating the tag "godric true blood beinmydreamstonight."

Fel, Dan's tumblr is a gold mine. I think I should write you a tumblr tutorial!
Ty.
And that is ONE DAY after the first v-day video leak. :?
I wish 2011 Dan did liveshows. So badly.

Ugh I don't want to learn tumblr it's stupid I mean I'm an open-minded individual, go ahead, teach me senpai. :roll: (Honestly Dan's tumblr is sooo up my alley in sense of humour it's ridiculous, I want to hug it.)
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felucca wrote:
oqua wrote:18 September 2011.

Lol, I'm still appreciating the tag "godric true blood beinmydreamstonight."

Fel, Dan's tumblr is a gold mine. I think I should write you a tumblr tutorial!
Ty.
And that is ONE DAY after the first v-day video leak. :?
I wish 2011 Dan did liveshows. So badly.

Ugh I don't want to learn tumblr it's stupid I mean I'm an open-minded individual, go ahead, teach me senpai. :roll: (Honestly Dan's tumblr is sooo up my alley in sense of humour it's ridiculous, I want to hug it.)
I was going to PM this to you, but then I figured maybe other people could also harness these tips to wring ever attraction mention there is from Dan's tumblr, so I might as well post them here. :lol:

A few Tumblr url tips:

http://danisnotonfire.tumblr.com/archive
  • From here, you can filter by either date (by choosing a month and year) or by post type (photo, text, ask, etc.)
http://danisnotonfire.tumblr.com/day/YYYY/MM/DD http://danisnotonfire.tumblr.com/tagged/TAG http://danisnotonfire.tumblr.com/search/WORD https://www.tumblr.com/tagged/TAG?before=TIMESTAMP
To search all of tumblr for posts with a particular tag posted before a certain date/time:
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Another tumblr protip: add /chrono after a tag to view posts in chronological order instead of reverse chronological order.

e.g. http://danisnotonfire.tumblr.com/tagged ... hil/chrono
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Just saw all these fancy search strategies

I don't think anyone has posted this?
http://danisnotonfire.tumblr.com/post/97419938549
Ironic reblog b/c of the nakedness in the snow? Male or female? The world may never know
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Well then.
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Anyone wanna find some pics of Anakin from Clone wars? I would, but I suck at embedding
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spaceguitar wrote:Anyone wanna find some pics of Anakin from Clone wars? I would, but I suck at embedding
So Google is telling me it's this? Did not realize clone wars was animated, I'm not very into Star Wars but that's kind of a hot animated character :)
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spaceguitar wrote:Anyone wanna find some pics of Anakin from Clone wars? I would, but I suck at embedding
So Google is telling me it's this? Did not realize clone wars was animated, I'm not very into Star Wars but that's kind of a hot animated character :)

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^ nooooooo

That makes a total of 3 mentions attached to Anakin or the actor playing Anakin, btw.

(Literally me when I was in high school ngl. It's cute he hasn't gotten into Star Wars until now.)
(I need to watch Clone Wars asap.)
Honestly tho. We sure he's not single? He's becoming very explicit, I'd start feeling a bit weird at this point if I was in a relationship with him, just saying.

His 2012 female mentions were also pretty explicit but could easily be explained in a phan context where they were trying to cover the relationship up together (Phil also said a lot of things in 2012, after all). Is lots of explicit male mentions as easily explainable? Something Phil would look through the fingers with because... why? It's so important for Dan not to be seen as straight? It's not serious/just about celebrities, so it doesn't matter how many times Dan says they're hnng and he wants sex with them...? Food for thought.

Thank you for the tumblr help oqua, I'll make good use of it.
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