As many of you will know around Christmas time we usually put up a post where we sell some items to raise money for the running of the forum. We decided not to last year because of COVID and the impact that was potentially having on people.
Out of interest would anyone be interested if we did do it?
We do pay for professional hosting out of pocket in order to avoid having ads on the forum and our padding from the previous fundraisers will run out very soon.
We do have a paypal donation link here if anyone did want to donate but if people were also keen on some IBD / D&P related stickers then we could also look at doing that too.
Dan & Phil Part 98: forever home!!1!!!
Well, at this point, im thinking that out passionate debate we implemented here about whether they are or not loaded, multimillionaires or have millions on their bank accounts(in my previous post i was pretty clear, that someone can be worth $1 million, but have $100 on their bank account - we count all assets here, not only money in money state.) comes just from our different definitions of the words loaded, rich motherfuckers and superwealthy bussinessman. I'm a white american, from a... Well, rather wealthy family, with even wealthier neighbors. I got my job at 14, just because i wanted to, now i live comfortable and am able to afford most things i want. But, my best friend's father was an attorney at the time she was teenager - she got into a foreign exchange in europe(left with suitcase worth pretty sure a lot, came back with 10 others in deposit, all looked no cheap by any means either. And domt even get me started on what she bought in there) , always had good new clothes(designer, topped with winter jacked i believe a lot of people'd have to save up 2 YEARS for), paid for private school and could get(herself, from her parents) a couple houndreds, or even thousands WEEKLY, when she was a teenager and never got her first job - she got her own bussiness at 24(also a pretty picky there) and most likely still gets the money her parents saved up for her - well for me, THIS is the definition of loaded and higher class - a kid who always had money from the start for whatever they wanted, to travel alone for a year and buy whatever they wanted. When she once left her car near a teachers' spaces on a school parking lot at 16, it looked almost ridiculous, and the teachers didnt had them old Suburbans either. I never had a luxuries like these, unfortunately, and i got my first job at 17(because i wanted to, not really had to yet), but still lived comfortable.
Like with these doctors, it's all different in the US, i have no idea how does it all work in the UK, i saw it as exaggerated a lot.
Because of our different backgrounds, we probably see this all differently - when i had a friend who got me a big bottle of Calvin Klein perfume at 10 or 11 years old and always stormed out to pay for everything and everyone when we went out, maybe i've gotten... Fogged vision of how people live, especially in the UK. I also have roots in a country literally destroyed by wars and socialism(My grandparents were Polish), so i will NEVER EVER support this philosophy and living from others' taxes, but aight, dont wanna throw another granite by getting my political views out, as center of attention on show(especially, here..., so just drop it now ),but i just kinda wanted to say my story and why i MAY not think they're extremely rich like everyone else. I guess these experiences stay in you, even though i also knew normal working class people.
Besides, im pretty sure there are million other things i havent covered(well, i'd have to drop my autobiography for that, one for 700 pages to make sure i cover everything i saw, done, and the lives of everyone i know or knew) that probably influence(d) why i dont see them as high class loaded motherfuckers, just normal entertainers, still. Probably too many differences in our lives and backgrounds, at least thats what im contemplainting at this moment.
Oh, one more thing - how do you know they never saved up for ANYTHING? Because they said so? Because it was new release?(most are announced earlier, ya know). How do you know everything is so spontanious, and they apparently can get clothes made from gold and diamonds at a price of 3 private planes(i also see that as really exagerated. Clothes to work a year for? But yeah, like i said, we dont need to get into discussion about that again. I've seen money dropped on things like that by my friend... Younger than them and even though withdrawn and never liking to take pictures or be a public of attention, i'd say she was and still is more privileged than then because of past, background, and dough she still collects, from various sources.) and how do you know they never thought about buing this instead of that? Tricky question, because my mind screams: "You never know whats goin on with cameras turned off, behind the doors thats closed, and on somebody elses bank accounts" They can not say the whole truth, they may change the truth so it sounds more relevant. They may straight up lie, because of billion reasons.
Like i said, i drove this discussion further, got some people tellin me why they think they're "loaded" and they got their net worths so they know they're millionaires - here's the biggest surprise of the evening, i am too, when whe put together everything i own. Many, many people are millionaires that way. We can change our assets to a cash - then we'll be millionaires with no homes, cars, foods on the table and basically, nothin else.
Btw. When i find i case i support and wanna donate, i also donate hundrerds, if not thousaunds - dropping pennies wouldnt make sense for me... I dunno, how much people normally donate? I dont watch much of things where donations are going on, i barely watch anything at all now, but im just curious. These arguments dont really affect me like they supposed to
Like with these doctors, it's all different in the US, i have no idea how does it all work in the UK, i saw it as exaggerated a lot.
Because of our different backgrounds, we probably see this all differently - when i had a friend who got me a big bottle of Calvin Klein perfume at 10 or 11 years old and always stormed out to pay for everything and everyone when we went out, maybe i've gotten... Fogged vision of how people live, especially in the UK. I also have roots in a country literally destroyed by wars and socialism(My grandparents were Polish), so i will NEVER EVER support this philosophy and living from others' taxes, but aight, dont wanna throw another granite by getting my political views out, as center of attention on show(especially, here..., so just drop it now ),but i just kinda wanted to say my story and why i MAY not think they're extremely rich like everyone else. I guess these experiences stay in you, even though i also knew normal working class people.
Besides, im pretty sure there are million other things i havent covered(well, i'd have to drop my autobiography for that, one for 700 pages to make sure i cover everything i saw, done, and the lives of everyone i know or knew) that probably influence(d) why i dont see them as high class loaded motherfuckers, just normal entertainers, still. Probably too many differences in our lives and backgrounds, at least thats what im contemplainting at this moment.
Oh, one more thing - how do you know they never saved up for ANYTHING? Because they said so? Because it was new release?(most are announced earlier, ya know). How do you know everything is so spontanious, and they apparently can get clothes made from gold and diamonds at a price of 3 private planes(i also see that as really exagerated. Clothes to work a year for? But yeah, like i said, we dont need to get into discussion about that again. I've seen money dropped on things like that by my friend... Younger than them and even though withdrawn and never liking to take pictures or be a public of attention, i'd say she was and still is more privileged than then because of past, background, and dough she still collects, from various sources.) and how do you know they never thought about buing this instead of that? Tricky question, because my mind screams: "You never know whats goin on with cameras turned off, behind the doors thats closed, and on somebody elses bank accounts" They can not say the whole truth, they may change the truth so it sounds more relevant. They may straight up lie, because of billion reasons.
Like i said, i drove this discussion further, got some people tellin me why they think they're "loaded" and they got their net worths so they know they're millionaires - here's the biggest surprise of the evening, i am too, when whe put together everything i own. Many, many people are millionaires that way. We can change our assets to a cash - then we'll be millionaires with no homes, cars, foods on the table and basically, nothin else.
Btw. When i find i case i support and wanna donate, i also donate hundrerds, if not thousaunds - dropping pennies wouldnt make sense for me... I dunno, how much people normally donate? I dont watch much of things where donations are going on, i barely watch anything at all now, but im just curious. These arguments dont really affect me like they supposed to
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Hi Emma! Slightly off topic, but since you asked, registered nurses with ~10 years experience make around $50,000 55,000 gbp in my area of the US. I also know several Nurse Practioners who make well over 6 figures (in usd). So, yeah, salaries are good, but I think most of us would still prefer universal health care ❤missemma wrote: ↑Sun Jan 17, 2021 3:46 amI am genuinely shocked, no wonder it seemed like I may have been exaggeratingdontpanic wrote: ↑Sun Jan 17, 2021 2:32 am I'm in the US where the mean salary of a doctor in the United States is $313,000/year annually, they tend to be in the top 1% of wage earners especially if they're specialists or located in affluent cities. I used to work at martha's vineyard a few summers in college and a lot of the people with second or third homes there were doctors, lawyers, or hedge fund manager/stockbroker types.
with privatized healthcare and a tax system disproportionally benefiting the 1% doctors are quite wealthy here, but I wasn't even thinking about the UK which you're right, Dan and Phil totally outearn(my figures btw are for NHS Doctors).
(how much do nurses make, I’m coming over haha).
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It looks like they do not discriminate, although I would make two points about this:
- on the superficial level, "political correctness" sells now, so it would be counterproductive not to be inclusive, thus the choice to put that non-thin black girl as a model for their products is a good way to check boxes;
- the U.K. has a huge, terrible, desperate problem of dealing with its institutional - and some would say, cultural - racism, especially if you're outside London and has never even met a non-white person. It's the same kind of mentality that, to me, has brought JKRowling to completely overlook British racism in her books. It is a sort of racism that it is so entrenched in British society that white people do not even realise they have it, and that they are participating in it (but of course, blatant racism exists, too).
On the other side, I do no expect them to engage in these particular conversations because they are not civil activists; they are entertainers and they are free to do as they like. Maybe we should all be anti-racist (!), but at the same time, I understand that it can be unfortunately a heavy topic to carry on and thus I don't blame them. I am more than proud of Dan for choosing to speak up for queer rights, but I also perceive it to be a personal choice, something he needs to do to heal, and there is nothing wrong with Phil not choosing to publicly go to marches or be an ambassador and so on.
Sometimes I feel like Dan, who's more active on these topics, feels the pressure to be inclusive and that's why he ends up feeling like a formless blob: there's simply too much to learn, to much to acknowledge and it can be overwhelming or even stop you from putting forward some ideas, which I feel happens to him. It would be nice to see him express himself more freely!
If you want to know what a man's like, take a good look at how he treats his inferiors, not his equals (nevertheless, I still love HP books, sigh).
- on the superficial level, "political correctness" sells now, so it would be counterproductive not to be inclusive, thus the choice to put that non-thin black girl as a model for their products is a good way to check boxes;
- the U.K. has a huge, terrible, desperate problem of dealing with its institutional - and some would say, cultural - racism, especially if you're outside London and has never even met a non-white person. It's the same kind of mentality that, to me, has brought JKRowling to completely overlook British racism in her books. It is a sort of racism that it is so entrenched in British society that white people do not even realise they have it, and that they are participating in it (but of course, blatant racism exists, too).
On the other side, I do no expect them to engage in these particular conversations because they are not civil activists; they are entertainers and they are free to do as they like. Maybe we should all be anti-racist (!), but at the same time, I understand that it can be unfortunately a heavy topic to carry on and thus I don't blame them. I am more than proud of Dan for choosing to speak up for queer rights, but I also perceive it to be a personal choice, something he needs to do to heal, and there is nothing wrong with Phil not choosing to publicly go to marches or be an ambassador and so on.
Sometimes I feel like Dan, who's more active on these topics, feels the pressure to be inclusive and that's why he ends up feeling like a formless blob: there's simply too much to learn, to much to acknowledge and it can be overwhelming or even stop you from putting forward some ideas, which I feel happens to him. It would be nice to see him express himself more freely!
If you want to know what a man's like, take a good look at how he treats his inferiors, not his equals (nevertheless, I still love HP books, sigh).
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News from on high! If 'on high' is Phil's bed, apparently.
AmazingPhil wrote:Oops I wrote this just before lunch and forgot to publish, so pretend you are reading this 5 hours ago… Hope 2021 is treating you as well as it can!!
I’m writing this in full comfy mode while I await a takeaway ‘bang bang halloumi’ bowl (the only valid cheese). I also ordered a ‘mystery cookie’ so let’s pray it is a good mystery.
I’ve taken a couple of January weeks to chill a bit as December was pretty non-stop for me! I filmed and edited 8(!) videos for my channel so go have a quick look if you missed any. I really enjoyed trying something new with the ‘Phil and Phriends’ series, it was also a fun excuse to force my friends talk to me for an hour. Some of those videos were a BEAST to edit, at one point while editing the Dan one the computer completely died but thankfully I managed to give it virtual CPR and the video got to see the light of day!
I didn’t make a grand new year’s resolution but one vague thing I’ve done is replace my phone with my Switch on my bedside table, so rather than look at a waterfall of information from twitter or instagram just before sleeping I’ll play a bit of a relaxing game and switch off my brain. (I still have my phone for my alarm I’m just resisting the urge to look at it!)
The first game I’ve started for this tradition is Dragon Quest 9, I’ve never played a Dragon Quest before but I’m loving the old-schol RPG battles and I’m currently in a town where I can virtually steam myself in a mountain onsen, On the flipside when not in bed I’ve been in actual hell playing the original ‘Doom’ as I had a nostalgia wave of playing it with my brother when I was 8 and being traumatised by nightmarish demons. It’s actually standing up to the test of time as a super fun (and pretty disturbing) game.
In TV land I loved the Queen’s Gambit (like everyone else in the universe), did anyone else watch this and then browse chess sets online and then realise they would never be a grandmaster and give up on the dream? Just me?? Also.. continued Jojo, and started Lupin on Netflix who seems to be like French Sherlock, so maybe give that a watch if you are still mourning the Cumberbatch.
In the most exciting news I have just been rainbow shirt shopping as some of you have nearly evolved into RAINBOW CACTII think the first few will be popping up next week. I’ll be recording my first big shoutout video for those peeps soon! I’ll ask for your names in another community post in a few weeks and then shout you all out in a very rainbowey video. I did think about filling the room with cacti too but I think that could result in some kind of death incident.
Anyway my food just arrived I’m off for my last few hours of hibernating like a large squirrel in sweatpants (with access to the internet).
THANKS FOR READING!
Ps. hello from the future the mystery cookie was salted caramel and white chocolate! I’d call that a win
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I think the first few will be popping up next week. I’ll be recording my first big shoutout video for those peeps soon! I’ll ask for your names in another community post in a few weeks and then shout you all out in a very rainbowey video. I did think about filling the room with cacti too but I think that could result in some kind of death incident.-
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Isn't Sarah Thai? I guess being from Thailand doesn't necessarily mean she is ethnically Thai but it seems a lot more likely than that she is Black to me (and I'm realizing I don't know how infallible old FB info is). Anyway, there are two women of color in the IRL website image, but of course the presence of people of color in a business doesn't prove anything about whether or not there are any discriminatory practices happening. That's not something we're gonna know unless employees start telling us something.
Do we know if the shoutouts going to be part of a main video, a seperate one for community members only or like those individual short clips they do every now and again through IRL? The last one might not even be possible depending on how many members there are (particularly ones who've stuck with it from the beginning).
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This is what it says on his channel when you go to joinshan wrote: ↑Mon Jan 18, 2021 5:48 am Do we know if the shoutouts going to be part of a main video, a seperate one for community members only or like those individual short clips they do every now and again through IRL? The last one might not even be possible depending on how many members there are (particularly ones who've stuck with it from the beginning).
So I'm assuming he'll just share the unlisted video link to the channel members. I'm guessing the first one will be quite long with everyone that joined right when he started the membership and then he won't have enough people to make another for a few months.Video shoutouts for rainbow cactus members!
Every few months i'll upload an unlisted vid shouting out every new rainbow member!
"You loved it, you want to do it more."
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Rich people really love to talk about how much richer *other people* are, huh? DNP are rich.
(Also the “mean” salary for a doctor in the us is not at all reflective of the average doctor in the US, median is a better state and is 50% Lowe than your mean quote)
50% of the richest county in the world makes less than $68,000 per year for their entire household. DNP make far more than that in some months, and far more than a GP on the NHS.
Dan and Phil, are rich by all global standards, and even standards in their own country. They are in the top 95% of global income.
Variable income, which they definitely have - does not mean they don’t have wealth by all global standards. We know on paper how much one of their companies earns as that is a matter of public record in the UK.
No, they are not the uberwealthy with large amounts of generational wealth compared to the people you apparently rub elbows with. But they are rich.
My SO is a millionaire in their mid 30s - earned through hard work and so much privilege just like DNP- and we don’t have a car, we rent our primary home, and we don’t get takeout more than once a year. My SO also could choose to live off their investments alone if they chose for an income of ~$80,000 a year based on the safe withdrawal rate without actually touching the principal, about triple what we actually spend.
(Also the “mean” salary for a doctor in the us is not at all reflective of the average doctor in the US, median is a better state and is 50% Lowe than your mean quote)
50% of the richest county in the world makes less than $68,000 per year for their entire household. DNP make far more than that in some months, and far more than a GP on the NHS.
Dan and Phil, are rich by all global standards, and even standards in their own country. They are in the top 95% of global income.
Variable income, which they definitely have - does not mean they don’t have wealth by all global standards. We know on paper how much one of their companies earns as that is a matter of public record in the UK.
No, they are not the uberwealthy with large amounts of generational wealth compared to the people you apparently rub elbows with. But they are rich.
My SO is a millionaire in their mid 30s - earned through hard work and so much privilege just like DNP- and we don’t have a car, we rent our primary home, and we don’t get takeout more than once a year. My SO also could choose to live off their investments alone if they chose for an income of ~$80,000 a year based on the safe withdrawal rate without actually touching the principal, about triple what we actually spend.
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ok who else is sending questions you know phil won't answer, and what are they?
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I am trying to ask questions about business! I really wish Phil would start a creative business podcast instead of just talking about his socks on every panel he is on, so I am asking the questions he’ll never answer
“What is it like owning a business with your brother?”
“How do you feel comfort with risk has informed your creative and business decisions?”
“How do you choose what sponsors to work with?”
Almost just asked “are you and Dan engaged?”
“What is it like owning a business with your brother?”
“How do you feel comfort with risk has informed your creative and business decisions?”
“How do you choose what sponsors to work with?”
Almost just asked “are you and Dan engaged?”
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Both Tyler and Connor have done "Answering questions I've always avoided" videos recently, so I'm guessing it's something similar? It's a good format if you want an excuse to talk about something specific.
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I asked a few questions about the home designing process which aren't super risque but god I'd honestly love for him to do an entire video about what goes into it. I'd also be very happy hearing him talk about business oriented things, too! Or dating stories that aren't awkward girl fails while he was closeted. Hearing Phil talk about little Phil's forays into dating boys would be so sweet (if he has any stories like that).
I also asked questions about business and marketing I feel less alone
"what is like owning a business during a global pandemic?"
"is management involved In sponsorship talks or do you personally choose alone?"
Yall.. that adulting brain uh
"what is like owning a business during a global pandemic?"
"is management involved In sponsorship talks or do you personally choose alone?"
Yall.. that adulting brain uh
Will probably never be over the BONCAS and the beauty of Phil Lester.
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Those are all very interesting! Let's hope he answers the serious questions and not just what's his favorite type of candy, again
"Treat yourself, because you're special and you're worth it."
Okay, 206,500 is still a lot though? https://money.usnews.com/careers/best-j ... ian/salary I didn't realize people didn't consider doctors rich or I would have been more accurate, I just meant their lifestyle reminded me of the doctors I used to work for as a housekeeper in their summer houses. I did, however, correct myself later and say I was looking at it through a US perspective bc I didn't realize there was such a difference between US and UK doctor incomes.plinthofmylife wrote: ↑Mon Jan 18, 2021 3:58 pm Rich people really love to talk about how much richer *other people* are, huh? DNP are rich.
(Also the “mean” salary for a doctor in the us is not at all reflective of the average doctor in the US, median is a better state and is 50% Lowe than your mean quote)
50% of the richest county in the world makes less than $68,000 per year for their entire household. DNP make far more than that in some months, and far more than a GP on the NHS.
Dan and Phil, are rich by all global standards, and even standards in their own country. They are in the top 95% of global income.
Variable income, which they definitely have - does not mean they don’t have wealth by all global standards. We know on paper how much one of their companies earns as that is a matter of public record in the UK.
No, they are not the uberwealthy with large amounts of generational wealth compared to the people you apparently rub elbows with. But they are rich.
My SO is a millionaire in their mid 30s - earned through hard work and so much privilege just like DNP- and we don’t have a car, we rent our primary home, and we don’t get takeout more than once a year. My SO also could choose to live off their investments alone if they chose for an income of ~$80,000 a year based on the safe withdrawal rate without actually touching the principal, about triple what we actually spend.
The CS global wealth report shows a household with over 1 million USD is in the top 1% of global wealth, which they obviously have, but I doubt they have over 30 million as youtubers (which would be top 0.002%), even someone like a James Charles wouldn't have that (but maybe a pewdiepie would considering his audience size and length of career). So they fall somewhere in there, richer than most ppl including myself could ever dream of. It's not what most people would consider an immoral amount of money, bar as a way to highlight systematic inequality traced back to Great Britain's imperialism.
So... I think we all (or at least most of us) agree they're rich, but unlike the senario you mentioned re: your SO's situation and their retirement senario, it probably wouldn't be smart for DnP to retire just yet if they wanted to sustain their current and (imo) lavish lifestyle they seem comfortable with, ESPECIALLY considering that they have more than half a lifetime yet to finance.
I don't think their potential for retirement really matters though, because I couldn't imagine them happy living without a career or professional goal in the first place
this reminds me, I wonder if they're still with that above the fray management or if they (or at least dan) are hiring someplace less online-oriented now that he's trying less YouTube-y stuff
They're both still listed on the home page of above the fray so still there for now.
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As far as I know, they're managed by ATF and Dan signed with an agent in LA last year, but I don't know that it's less online-oriented or at least the agent's job title is "Digital Ventures" and he reps the Try Guys and a bunch of Instagram and TikTok people. There's a good thread in the IDB archives about the difference between management and agents and why it makes sense that Dan has both.
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I would 100% love to get some merch/stickers to help contibute to forum hosting costs. I'd be happy to donate, too, without merch but a "husbands and arch enemies" sticker would look awful nice on my laptop....missemma wrote: ↑Sun Jan 17, 2021 6:33 pm As many of you will know around Christmas time we usually put up a post where we sell some items to raise money for the running of the forum. We decided not to last year because of COVID and the impact that was potentially having on people.
Out of interest would anyone be interested if we did do it?
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I may have misread your original post, because it seems like we mostly agree. From my guesstimating perspective, they would probably be able to sustain living in London in a nice cystom house (but maybe not in a closer-in neighborhood) off passive income without working if they have a bit of their wealth properly invested - I'm assuming they aren't ONLY earning off residuals for book and youtube, and some of their wealth, especially since they don't appear to have real estate (yet). My guesstimate is that their household income pulled from passive wealth would likely be ~$160,000 USD (117,380 GPB) which is a very high income for the UK.dontpanic wrote: ↑Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:52 pm So... I think we all (or at least most of us) agree they're rich, but unlike the senario you mentioned re: your SO's situation and their retirement senario, it probably wouldn't be smart for DnP to retire just yet if they wanted to sustain their current and (imo) lavish lifestyle they seem comfortable with, ESPECIALLY considering that they have more than half a lifetime yet to finance.
I don't think their potential for retirement really matters though, because I couldn't imagine them happy living without a career or professional goal in the first place
I also 100% agree they have no interest in ceasing work, they're both trying to move into new entertainment/creative projects right now, but Phil clearly likes his channel as a creative outlet as well as a business (in a way that Dan has always ~~struggled~~ with).
I actually think Patricia Bright's videos about her finance might help with some clarity around how much they earn, and what their possible investable income is. She's managed to buy properties in London (some investment, one for her family). She has similar viewership and platform longevity on youtube as DNP, and likely earns more from sponsorship because of her industry (beauty vs vlogger). She's quite open about her finances and pays her household bills on an income from her business of $88,595.00 USD (65K GPB) - that includes a lot of takeaway, ubers, a luxury car note, and having 2 kids.
I know a fair amount about finances and creatives income here in the US but there's a bunch of stuff I don't know about taxes + CPMs in the UK.
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!There is a list from the beginning, but not up to the present:
Dan and Phil movie/tv recom
I don't think there is another thread that answers the question, but Compilations and Reference is always a good subforum to check.
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A Dan tweet and my favorite response:
(and for those wondering what Dan's on about, this relates to a popular (and pretty great, imo) TikTok trend with people singing sea shanties)
(and for those wondering what Dan's on about, this relates to a popular (and pretty great, imo) TikTok trend with people singing sea shanties)
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Just imagining if DAPG were still a thing... they would absolutely be singing sea shanties nonstop. Just turning absolutely nonsense into a shanty. Then cracking each other up because they've been going at the inside joke of turning everything into a sea shanty so hard in their off hours that it's inane and they find it hilarious in a way that no one else possibly could so we all just sigh over how cute and dumb they are and make gifsets.
Anyway, there's a mini fanfic for the day, apparently.
Anyway, there's a mini fanfic for the day, apparently.