alittledizzy wrote:
If he mentions passionately liking the YOI ship or gives controversial opinions on what he doesn't like then he will just be encouraging the throngs of people to continue spamming his tweets, asks, and comments about that forevermore.
If I were him I'd be wary about activating fanbases with potential to overlap with my existing one.
such good points, the overlap between yoi and d&p fandoms and the parallels between johnlock and phan are probably something he's wary of and would like to steer clear of. it is interesting how he talks a lot about how he's such a fan and gets so invested in fandoms, and yet he rarely mentions shipping anyone. probs because he's wary of encouraging/validating his shipping fanbase. he encourages us now in winks, nods, tweets, tabinof and tatinof's fic segments, and by supporting phanart. but to outright claim that he, too, ships male/male ships might seem too risky for him, as it'd be a no holds barred free pass to phan shippers. does this make sense?
like what
lurker was saying about "dan has always been somewhat careful about being seen as a shipper, or about people thinking he watches something for a ship"...i agree with this, because i think he knows a lot of people watch him and phil for the "bants and eyecontact" aka for the phan element, and he facilitates that for sure. but he doesn't necessarily wish it were that way. he'd rather people watch him for the quality of their content. so i think he's wary of being seen as a shipper and people presuming he's watching something just for the ship, because then that encourages/supports people who do that with him and phil.
trashqueen wrote:re: sherlock comment, god, i wish he had talked more about his sherlock opinion because i also interpreted what he said about mary that way, and i hated it, if he genuinely thinks that mary existing is the reason johnlock is not canon i'm gonna have to punch him, johnlock isn't canon because steven moffat is a queerbaity piece of shit, stop blaming female characters existing for shitty showrunning decisions
but i think dan's wording here is important. i agree with you, i think blaming mary for getting in between john and sherlock and preventing their relationship is nonsense (especially since they both clearly loved her). but, the idea of her character, and the way the showwriters have written her in as a standin to enforce heterosexuality until proven queer while baiting the shit out of johnlock...that's what i think dan doesn't like, and that's the point i was trying to make when i said her character is imposed upon two men and stands between them.. basically, i agree with exactly what
lerien said in the second half of their post:
Like he thinks she had been added by the writers/showrunners for the "no-homo" garantee between John and Sherlock - she totally was. Plus, Moffat tends to characterize his female characters badly (he seems to only ever show them as castrating and menacing to men's virility or something, that's really annoying cf. the Woman, Missy, River Song...). So I can understand that as much as the actress and the character can be great, the reason why she exists in the first place and the trope she is characterized from are quite off putting.
zvezdochka wrote:Not to dawn on YOI's future, but maybe what Dan doesn't quite like about it is that THE GAYNESS can easily become its main feature instead of character development, strong storyline, etc. Hannah Hart tried to explain this trend by saying she wants to play interesting characters that happen to be gay, not gay characters. Am I making sense? Upsetting YOI's fans is the last thing I want to do.
lol, full disclosure, i've never watched a single episode of YOI so i'm definitely not upset by what you're saying. it makes total sense to me, and it's similar to the point dan made in that 10/25 liveshow, when he said you never get a good, quality drama anime that also happens to have gay characters, it's always either a "
gay anime" or an anime. and while i haven't seen it, i follow enough people on twitter/tumblr who are huuuuuge fans that i feel like i can say, YOI seems to have quickly become a "gay anime," at least in the eyes of its viewers.
lurker wrote:it seems plausible to say that whatever he says about their relationship will, to some extent, be projected back onto him
very true, probably a scary/offputting prospect, and something i already implicitly did in my post about johnlock by comparing their relationship to dan and phil's :/
