Dan & Phil Part 57: Pinky and the Brain

[onetruetrash]

Oh my god, I'm watching Emma's livestream and she just mentioned how there was no awkwardness and how everyone gets along. I don't know why but I found that hilarious.

She said that she brought up to put some rumors to rest haha I guess I stand corrected about her checking her indirects here

[secretagentphan]

I’m not gonna add my opinion on the Felix situation because everyone has already basically said what I would say. I’m uncomfortable and disappointed but not surprised. It’s just a gross situation, probably for them too in a way.

Someone on here said they think Dan will make some sort of video addressing his identity within a year and I agree that seems very possible. I’m somone who struggled with their identity and didn’t even acknowledge that they weren’t straight until like 17 so I hope Dan feels comfortable talking about this.

Dan and Phil also totally shared a bed at PJs and even though I’m disappointed by this entire situation at least that feeds my demon phannie side a little..

[onetruetrash]

Oh my god, I'm watching Emma's livestream and she just mentioned how there was no awkwardness and how everyone gets along. I don't know why but I found that hilarious.

She said that she brought up to put some rumors to rest haha I guess I stand corrected about her checking her indirects here

Missed the editing window by a few seconds on my last post oops

But anyway, when they were playing Truth Bombs, the question was "if emma was a dessert, what would she be" and the winning answer was a bowl of salt and Emma thought Dan gave that answer (I would think that to)

[clippedteapot]

Not really sure what to say Re: Felix situation, just that it stinks and I wish DnP would let that relationship fade. Maybe it will after this birthday party, assuming Dan actually had a chat with Felix at all. I'm not particularly surprised, just shooting them some disappointed side eye. No one is perfectly unproblematic though, so whatever, moving on as long as they don't start acting that way, god forbid. I'm not about your friend's actions directly reflecting your own self, I won't do that to DnP, so as long as they keep being generally positive and progressive and aware then I'll accept the flaws because what can you do, honestly.

Shooting directly off topic, I'm curious as to what they're making for the next baking vid. I like to cook/bake occasionally, so watching them is a fun experience. (I felt their pain during those meringues, I made macaroons once with no electric mixer and my arms ached after all that mixing.)

[lost686girl]

https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/11145603?l ... s=zGd7CcwG

Here is the airbnb they stayed in. 5 beds. Gathered this by looking at the pictures on marziaslife.com

[malday]

This guy's whole shtick is being a racist, sexist, homophobic, et al. asshole. It's how he got 50M subscribers. He knows EXACTLY what he's doing and he's very successful at it. So it's not like he is an otherwise great guy with a few uninformed opinions. Dan has joked about it ("everyone's problematic dad") as if it's funny, and he has claimed he'll talk about it with Pdp as if Pdp is just uninformed. Pdp is not uninformed. He's doing it entirely on purpose (and making bank from it). So to me, Dan's comments about it seem to minimizing the issue a lot.

Maybe this is something suited more for the PDP thread, but yes he absolutely knows what he's doing, in his time on youtube he went through stages of pandering to different audiences when it suited him, when he started getting really popular he was carried by fangirls and mocked by the exact type of people he is now pandering to. This shift was a conscious decision he made around the time when he did a video about false positivity on youtbube and wanting to be more his "real self", and just kept getting worse and worse.

I do think it's interesting (and perhaps a little unfair) that the main criticism seems to be leveled at Dan, while Phil is also there. Dan is at least trying(YMMV on how performative that is) whereas Phil never sticks his head above the parapets. It kind of reminds me of the way that as soon as a female celebrity identifies as a feminist, she's often torn to shreds in social justice circles - whatever she's doing, she's doing wrong, or she's not doing enough, or she's doing too much. SJ discourse often seems to spend more time criticizing actual feminists and allies than people who are flagrantly and blatantly misogynistic or directly opposed to social justice concepts. It's crazy! Are we trying to effect change here, or just score points on doing things "correctly"? Basically, I think it's unfair to castigate Dan for this while letting Phil off the hook. Dan at least has acknowledged that there is a problem. Phil's silence is deafening.

I kind of agree here, people who identify as feminists and allies not only get teared down by the anti-sjw crowd but also by people they are allied with, not that they should be exempt from scrutiny (there are plenty who just pander and do horrible things), but sometimes it just ends up alienating actual good people.
But i think it seems like Dan is getting more criticism because, like it's been pointed out here before, he just talks about things more and this time he gave a direct line to be analyzed, i don't think people are letting Phil off the hook, the disappointment expressed here includes them both.

I think people are overestimating how informed the phandom is. I'll bet you anything that those that are interested in the Melix ship are pretty ignorant to whatever Felix has done and that is the audience that d&p and Marzia share, and want them them to collab again. I'll even dare say that some of Felix's own causal viewers are ignorant to what he does on stream.

[goldenmermaid]

https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/11145603?l ... s=zGd7CcwG

Here is the airbnb they stayed in. 5 beds. Gathered this by looking at the pictures on marziaslife.com

oh good find! guess d&p weren't staying in pj's loft bed. also what an absolutely gorgeous house

[moaninglisa]

https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/11145603?l ... s=zGd7CcwG

Here is the airbnb they stayed in. 5 beds. Gathered this by looking at the pictures on marziaslife.com

phil's response makes more sense now lol i guess that's what he meant when he said "lamp with a button on the wire"?

[alittledizzy]

https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/11145603?l ... s=zGd7CcwG

Here is the airbnb they stayed in. 5 beds. Gathered this by looking at the pictures on marziaslife.com

phil's response makes more sense now lol i guess that's what he meant when he said "lamp with a button on the wire"?

My dreams of them staying in PJ's nook bed are crushed, but that airbnb looks really cute and cozy so I guess that makes up for it.

[Loafer]

https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/11145603?l ... s=zGd7CcwG

Here is the airbnb they stayed in. 5 beds. Gathered this by looking at the pictures on marziaslife.com

phil's response makes more sense now lol i guess that's what he meant when he said "lamp with a button on the wire"?

I’m just gonna casually point out that there were only 3 beds that size, plus 2 that were twin sized but could pull out to be doubles. Just summarizing what it said on the site, not being trash, nope.

[Ewok]

https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/11145603?l ... s=zGd7CcwG

Here is the airbnb they stayed in. 5 beds. Gathered this by looking at the pictures on marziaslife.com

phil's response makes more sense now lol i guess that's what he meant when he said "lamp with a button on the wire"?

I will never cease to be amazed at how freaking fast you guys piece these things together. It blows my mind lol.

I’m just gonna casually point out that there were only 3 beds that size, plus 2 that were twin sized but could pull out to be doubles. Just summarizing what it said on the site, not being trash, nope.

You aren't alone, when I saw the first post of the airbnb I went back to the group photo Marzia posted and immediately started doing math to try to understand their sleeping arrangements. Now all I can think of is the domestic dispute that Phil caused by flickering the light on and off all night.

[kuensukki]

I do think it's interesting (and perhaps a little unfair) that the main criticism seems to be leveled at Dan, while Phil is also there. Dan is at least trying(YMMV on how performative that is) whereas Phil never sticks his head above the parapets. It kind of reminds me of the way that as soon as a female celebrity identifies as a feminist, she's often torn to shreds in social justice circles - whatever she's doing, she's doing wrong, or she's not doing enough, or she's doing too much. SJ discourse often seems to spend more time criticizing actual feminists and allies than people who are flagrantly and blatantly misogynistic or directly opposed to social justice concepts. It's crazy! Are we trying to effect change here, or just score points on doing things "correctly"? Basically, I think it's unfair to castigate Dan for this while letting Phil off the hook. Dan at least has acknowledged that there is a problem. Phil's silence is deafening.

*inserts WHO SAID THAT??? gif*

I think everyone has acknowledged that it's Dp as a unit that made this decision to remain close to Felix so both obviously have equal blame. People might have mentioned dan more because he's the one that communicated to us that he would "have a chat with Felix" therefore giving himself the responsibility to educate someone who will never be educated. He might have been chosen out of the two to try to save their asses when the pics came out. Also he's revered as being very woke and aware. In a sense he is more open, more open than phil, but still pretty subtle about certain political views but he's so idolized and praised for every small statement he makes that the same should be true when his actions don't reflect this image that people try to make of him.


No one thinks phil is woke, he's the whitest man I know and lives in blissful ignorance but no one is out there making a long tumblr post about his political views. He gets less of the direct heat because he's never really given the impression that he's interested in politics and people know that off the bat hence less expectation and less disappointment. Dan has more of an open communication thing where he sometimes subtly shares his passion for SJA issues therefore it seems more hypocritical to stand by a man like Felix when youve taken the opposite stance.

Anyway I've done all my therapeutic rambling on this topic. I'm obviously having some time trying to wrap my head around it. Yay beds and bad gifts

[goldenmermaid]

You aren't alone, when I saw the first post of the airbnb I went back to the group photo Marzia posted and immediately started doing math to try to understand their sleeping arrangements. Now all I can think of is the domestic dispute that Phil caused by flickering the light on and off all night.

I'm pretty sure Emma said in her liveshow that she slept in the lounge, if that helps your calculations!

[karma_yeah]

https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/11145603?l ... s=zGd7CcwG

Here is the airbnb they stayed in. 5 beds. Gathered this by looking at the pictures on marziaslife.com

phil's response makes more sense now lol i guess that's what he meant when he said "lamp with a button on the wire"?

My dreams of them staying in PJ's nook bed are crushed, but that airbnb looks really cute and cozy so I guess that makes up for it.

There was only one room in which there were lamps on the bed with cords, and it was a king. I find it hard to believe that Phil slept there alone while Dan slept in one of those tiny bunk-looking beds in the other room. Unless of course he won 2 out of 3 in rock, paper, scissors.

Hmm . . . where have I heard this before?!? (insert horror movie scream) . . . #bedgate lives on! -- like a bad horror movie

Seriously, to the person who found the house, and many thanks to the owner for supplying so many great photos

Oh no, wait a minute!! Surely looked at the pictures on the website. And they know what amazing their phans are!! So Phil's knew exactly what he was doing when he sent that very specific tweet . . .



Alternative theory: they really don't give many f*cks any more, and if that's the case, to them!

ps don't take this seriously, it's my overly tired-brain having a little fun with me before bed

[Ewok]

You aren't alone, when I saw the first post of the airbnb I went back to the group photo Marzia posted and immediately started doing math to try to understand their sleeping arrangements. Now all I can think of is the domestic dispute that Phil caused by flickering the light on and off all night.

I'm pretty sure Emma said in her liveshow that she slept in the lounge, if that helps your calculations!

It's ridiculous (coming from someone who already believes that the moon room is their shared master bedroom) but I just spent way too much time thinking about who slept where in this airbnb. My head hurts, I just tried to do math and failed, and I'm just pretty positive they shared the airbnb bed.

Also, I spy four couples (from what I understand?) in that photo. Felix & Marzia, Dip & Pip obvs, Brad & Emma P, and Sophie and Pj. Emma is a SERIOUS third wheel here. Third wheel squared, and passing out drunk on an airbnb couch at your friends birthday party... I almost feel sorry for her, lmao.

[sparkle]

Someone on here said they think Dan will make some sort of video addressing his identity within a year and I agree that seems very possible. I’m somone who struggled with their identity and didn’t even acknowledge that they weren’t straight until like 17 so I hope Dan feels comfortable talking about this.

That was me

Dan hinted at mental health before making his video (its fucking haunting me, I cant stop thinking about it - still!) and in that video he hinted at identity issues. And its not the first time at all; I'm not going to be surprised if an identity video is coming because I honestly feel like it would fit in post-depression video.

re: Felix.
it's too early for me to form a coherent opinion but I wouldnt be surprised if they've already talked to Felix - Phil especially.

re: Emma
omg what I wouldn't give to sit down and talk to her about this party - I fucking love Emma and I want to know everything she saw

[Catallena]

I understand the point you're making and I recognise that there's a big difference, dizzy has brought up a similar argument on the previous page, I agree with that one, too. However, I think that there are two important arguments here. First, maybe I give Dan too much credit, but I like to believe what people are saying until proven otherwise, so I'll be assuming he was indeed planning on talking to Felix, at least at the time of his ls. Now, I recognize that, as a white person, I am privileged, and not directly concerned, and that's why I can keep socialising with the guy I was talking about, without any particular problems for myself. And deppy, being rich white boys, are super privileged. But isn't it exactly our duty as privileged white people to educate other privileged white people when they're refuse to listen to those from minority groups who are directly concerned by the issue? IIRC it was you Catallena who made an argument that if Dan really does talk to Felix and he changes his opinions, it doesn't really mean anything, because it just shows that the only opinion that matters to Felix is one of a white person. Yeah, ok, but "use your power wisely" and all that.

Second, about being friends in private so that not to influence their "young impressionable audience", they really can't, can they? It will inevitably be shared by someone, it's not like Dan and Phil are posting photos with Felix on their instagram, it's others. Deppy could, of course, ask other people who are present there not to include them in the stuff these people share on their social media, but Deppy can't just say it like that, they have to explain themselves, and here they go having a debate not only with Felix, but also with all those other people, like PJ (why aren't we shaming PJ again? I know the last time this question was asked, people said it's not a forum about PJ, but it doesn't prevent us from bringing down Emma in the main thread). They really only have two choices, either cut ties with Felix completely or continue socializing with him when he's present at an event where they've been invited to, while maintaining what their own position is and trying to educate him. Another option, btw, is that Deppy decided to go this time precisely to, like, give it a last chance and see what he's like in person after all of this (it's not like they've spoken since last Autumn, is it?), they may very well ditch him afterwards.
plath and Katka, because of your avatars, I find it hilarious when you both post at the same time, it happened now twice in the last couple of days, it's perfect

As white people and allies we definitely have that responsibility. However I think educating is about the genuinely ignorant, and Felix doesn't fall under that category. Felix falls under the category of people who are offensive on purpose despite having been educated with an added layer of that behavior being the thing that made him a millionaire. And imo at that point you're wasting your breath. At that point the best you can do is call people out for their shit, preferably publicly in order to send a message to others we can educate. If Dan genuinely tries, good for him and keeping his word and stuff. Do I think it will help? Nah. If it does by some miracle.. then Felix can sort that for himself but he better get no points or praise for not listening to minorities for years but suddenly caving when another white dude hits him over the head with it. And if he genuinely realizes that what he has been doing is wrong then he will not just continue on as usual. He will be ashamed and make it clear bu also educating his audience and workomg for forgiveness (which no one is obligated to do tbh).

I kinda worded it awkwardly but what I meant was that there was of course going to be a photo op at this party (just like at previous times) and they still chose to go, so they chose to have a public relationship with Felix imo. That might be harsh in the age of social media. but it's the way I see it.

Love for the posts by many people including alittledizzy, kuensukki and captainspacecoat

Found this on Marzia's blog

I'm sorry, but am I the only one who finds this hilarious and shameless of D&P?

Last year they give her a couple of those milk carton toys they got a free box of. This year, they gave her their own game... These 2 give roughly zero fucks when it comes to giving Marzia a thoughtful gift. Incredible.

lmao when it's about D&P giving gifts I always think of that time period where Phil was just sending marshmallows with that person's instagram pictures printed on them :')

Oh my god, I'm watching Emma's livestream and she just mentioned how there was no awkwardness and how everyone gets along. I don't know why but I found that hilarious.

She said that she brought up to put some rumors to rest haha I guess I stand corrected about her checking her indirects here

Missed the editing window by a few seconds on my last post oops

But anyway, when they were playing Truth Bombs, the question was "if emma was a dessert, what would she be" and the winning answer was a bowl of salt and Emma thought Dan gave that answer (I would think that to)

It'd be funnier if it was Phil tbh He definitely invented this game to be the shady bastard he is deep inside.

https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/11145603?l ... s=zGd7CcwG

Here is the airbnb they stayed in. 5 beds. Gathered this by looking at the pictures on marziaslife.com

Shit you're fast :')

I love me some good bedroom arrangement discussion

[FandomLurker]

Hi guys,

I really hesitate getting into the Felix conversation, not just because it makes me anxious and I hate confrontation but also because I agree with everyone. I think it is one of those things that really makes it clear how much varied reactions can be based on different life experiences and beliefs and how valid they all are. I genuinely find myself getting where everyone is coming from, even those that disagree with each other. I just thought I would respectfully offer my opinion so I can be done with my own reaction to this being an, understandably, on going conversation. Maybe even to give myself a bit of closure, all though I think I will stay up to date to ensure that new information can continue to add to my own perspective.

I think Felix has proven that despite apologies, scandals, and "mistakes" he has not grown. I think he may have said something similar to this in his very short apology video. The newest one. I have unsubscribed because I do not have room for his negative antics in my mind space. That said the current political discourse and chaos where I live, in the US, has really shaped my perspective. I am mixed race hispanic and Syrian bisexual person, and all except my immediate family support policies that genuinely frighten and insult me on a very personal level. My instinct is to be angry, to delete Facebook friends, ignore certain family members, ect. And to some degree I do. However, something that I have more recently grown to believe is that by doing that I only cut off people who might need exposure to people who thing differently to grow and change. I could be wrong. I might change my mind. I don't know if there are any clear right answers. But right now I just think D+P and others who disagree with Felix cutting off contact means that Felix is only/mostly surrounded by people who agree with his attitude. He will not really be confronted with different perspectives.I think if anything it is important for people who disagree on things like his recent behavior to stay in contact to have respectful but challenging dialogue. I guess I just want to think that some people can change and grow and learn and if we want people to stop acting horribly they have to be given the chance to. I think Felix has said and done horrible things and profited from it. He uses his large platform in a way I find abhorrent. I do not meant to in anyway excuse his behavior or suggest you give him more chances or anything. I don't like his content. I also think you vote with your dollar, so I won't give him my views or attention. In terms of D+P we don't know, and we can assume and a lot of the assumptions are probably right, but we don't KNOW that they haven't had that conversation with him, we don't know if they have texted or called or confronted him and if so to what degree. We don't what he may or may not have done to reach out. We assume often that they filter information before we receive it, so we don't know if that has happened here. I don't mind assuming or trying to figure out, or processing or anything like that. Just food for thought. I personally need more direct information before my feelings about D+P change. I will probably me more cautious and aware of their actions. But I don't blame them for going to the party or staying in contact.

I do hope this made some sense and I really understand why people may disagree with me. These are just my ramblings to offer a perspective. No disrespect intended.

Thanks

[moaninglisa]

gosh i'm so embarrassing but i actually went through all the pictures on the site to figure out every room and this is what i gathered (it's under a spoiler because i'm disgusting):

room #1

room #2:

room #3:

and room #4? maybe this is the one with the two beds?:

the order is completely arbitrary btw

i'm now 80% positive they slept in room #3. i wonder what couple sacrificed their space and comfort for dan and phil? unless dan was too scared of catching phil cooties that he actually slept somewhere else. which i suppose is more likely.

i can't wait for dan and phil to debunk this on the tuesday liveshow so i can die of embarrassment

[kuensukki]

gosh i'm so embarrassing but i actually went through all the pictures on the site to figure out every room and this is what i gathered (it's under a spoiler because i'm disgusting):

room #1

room #2:

room #3:

and room #4? maybe this is the one with the two beds?:

the order is completely arbitrary btw

i'm now 80% positive they slept in room #3. i wonder what couple sacrificed their space and comfort for dan and phil? unless dan was too scared of catching phil cooties that he actually slept somewhere else. which i suppose is more likely.

i can't wait for dan and phil to debunk this on the tuesday liveshow so i can die of embarrassment

wow i miss how efficient you guys are in room theories. As much as I'd love to imagine a life where dp proudly share a bed in a house of friends but also randos, I cant see that happening in front of emma. I mean shes proven again and again she would do anything for attention so them exposing anything to her gives her a little power and makes them lose a bit of control which is not something they're never fond of. The light in the bed is a bit of a slip tho. Maybe Phil got the king bed (because he won truth bombs or something silly) and when emma went to sleep dan snuck in with him.

[lost686girl]

gosh i'm so embarrassing but i actually went through all the pictures on the site to figure out every room and this is what i gathered (it's under a spoiler because i'm disgusting):

room #1

room #2:

room #3:

and room #4? maybe this is the one with the two beds?:

the order is completely arbitrary btw

i'm now 80% positive they slept in room #3. i wonder what couple sacrificed their space and comfort for dan and phil? unless dan was too scared of catching phil cooties that he actually slept somewhere else. which i suppose is more likely.

i can't wait for dan and phil to debunk this on the tuesday liveshow so i can die of embarrassment

wow i miss how efficient you guys are in room theories. As much as I'd love to imagine a life where dp proudly share a bed in a house of friends but also randos, I cant see that happening in front of emma. I mean shes proven again and again she would do anything for attention so them exposing anything to her gives her a little power and makes them lose a bit of control which is not something they're never fond of. The light in the bed is a bit of a slip tho. Maybe Phil got the king bed (because he won truth bombs or something silly) and when emma went to sleep dan snuck in with him.

I honestly think that dan and phil are out to their friends (which includes this whole group of people). How exhausting would it be to hid the status of your relationship to even your closest friends

There are 4 bedrooms which were prob taken by each of the 4 couples. Emma b on the couch in the living room I guess lol.

[karma_yeah]

Hi guys,

I really hesitate getting into the Felix conversation, not just because it makes me anxious and I hate confrontation but also because I agree with everyone. I think it is one of those things that really makes it clear how much varied reactions can be based on different life experiences and beliefs and how valid they all are. I genuinely find myself getting where everyone is coming from, even those that disagree with each other. I just thought I would respectfully offer my opinion so I can be done with my own reaction to this being an, understandably, on going conversation. Maybe even to give myself a bit of closure, all though I think I will stay up to date to ensure that new information can continue to add to my own perspective.

I think Felix has proven that despite apologies, scandals, and "mistakes" he has not grown. I think he may have said something similar to this in his very short apology video. The newest one. I have unsubscribed because I do not have room for his negative antics in my mind space. That said the current political discourse and chaos where I live, in the US, has really shaped my perspective. I am mixed race hispanic and Syrian bisexual person, and all except my immediate family support policies that genuinely frighten and insult me on a very personal level. My instinct is to be angry, to delete Facebook friends, ignore certain family members, ect. And to some degree I do. However, something that I have more recently grown to believe is that by doing that I only cut off people who might need exposure to people who thing differently to grow and change. I could be wrong. I might change my mind. I don't know if there are any clear right answers. But right now I just think D+P and others who disagree with Felix cutting off contact means that Felix is only/mostly surrounded by people who agree with his attitude. He will not really be confronted with different perspectives.I think if anything it is important for people who disagree on things like his recent behavior to stay in contact to have respectful but challenging dialogue. I guess I just want to think that some people can change and grow and learn and if we want people to stop acting horribly they have to be given the chance to. I think Felix has said and done horrible things and profited from it. He uses his large platform in a way I find abhorrent. I do not meant to in anyway excuse his behavior or suggest you give him more chances or anything. I don't like his content. I also think you vote with your dollar, so I won't give him my views or attention. In terms of D+P we don't know, and we can assume and a lot of the assumptions are probably right, but we don't KNOW that they haven't had that conversation with him, we don't know if they have texted or called or confronted him and if so to what degree. We don't what he may or may not have done to reach out. We assume often that they filter information before we receive it, so we don't know if that has happened here. I don't mind assuming or trying to figure out, or processing or anything like that. Just food for thought. I personally need more direct information before my feelings about D+P change. I will probably me more cautious and aware of their actions. But I don't blame them for going to the party or staying in contact.

I do hope this made some sense and I really understand why people may disagree with me. These are just my ramblings to offer a perspective. No disrespect intended.

Thanks

FandomLurker Thanks so much for your well thought out and articulate post. You make an excellent point, that when people only interact with others who look like them, think like them, etc. there's little opportunity for personal growth.

I've personally been a little surprised that Felix (who I agree is abhorrent) wants to be around Deppy at all, as it is highly unlikely that they are heterosexual, and are most likely in a loving committed relationship, which runs counter to the beliefs he seems to support. Honestly, the whole thing puzzles me. I don't keep up with Felix, nor will I ever watch anything he makes, so I won't know if he seems to show any "character development" unless I read about it here, but it doesn't sound like any progress has been made on that front.

I also think they (at least Dan) is self-aware enough and consciously-evolved enough to have given the topic some thought. I'd love for him/them to address the topic. (not holding my breath though; blue is not my color )

On a personal level, my heart goes out to you. The rhetoric I hear in the news daily terrifies me, (and I'm of the plain vanilla privileged class, just female, but still . . .). I'm very fortunate to live in one of the most diverse cities in the US, and I don't know where you live, but if your ever in a position to relocate, I believe you'd find it to be a place where you'd be welcomed with open arms!

[kuensukki]

gosh i'm so embarrassing but i actually went through all the pictures on the site to figure out every room and this is what i gathered (it's under a spoiler because i'm disgusting):

room #1

room #2:

room #3:

and room #4? maybe this is the one with the two beds?:

the order is completely arbitrary btw

i'm now 80% positive they slept in room #3. i wonder what couple sacrificed their space and comfort for dan and phil? unless dan was too scared of catching phil cooties that he actually slept somewhere else. which i suppose is more likely.

i can't wait for dan and phil to debunk this on the tuesday liveshow so i can die of embarrassment

wow i miss how efficient you guys are in room theories. As much as I'd love to imagine a life where dp proudly share a bed in a house of friends but also randos, I cant see that happening in front of emma. I mean shes proven again and again she would do anything for attention so them exposing anything to her gives her a little power and makes them lose a bit of control which is not something they're never fond of. The light in the bed is a bit of a slip tho. Maybe Phil got the king bed (because he won truth bombs or something silly) and when emma went to sleep dan snuck in with him.

I honestly think that dan and phil are out to their friends (which includes this whole group of people). How exhausting would it be to hid the status of your relationship to even your closest friends

There are 4 bedrooms which were prob taken by each of the 4 couples. Emma b on the couch in the living room I guess lol.

honestly im not convinced. Dp's closest friends do not include that group, peej for sure and melix (probs )but the others are randos. I didnt even think they were out to Louise for a long time, especially all those comments she used to make about dan being an eligible bachelor etc. Unless things have changed and theyre suddenly trusting someone like emma not to share anything

[malday]

Oh my god, I'm watching Emma's livestream and she just mentioned how there was no awkwardness and how everyone gets along. I don't know why but I found that hilarious.

She said that she brought up to put some rumors to rest haha I guess I stand corrected about her checking her indirects here

Missed the editing window by a few seconds on my last post oops

But anyway, when they were playing Truth Bombs, the question was "if emma was a dessert, what would she be" and the winning answer was a bowl of salt and Emma thought Dan gave that answer (I would think that to)

It'd be funnier if it was Phil tbh He definitely invented this game to be the shady bastard he is deep inside.

It turned out to be PJ who wrote that answer.
Now I want to know what they wrote on PDP's sheet.

[Phantasy]

gosh i'm so embarrassing but i actually went through all the pictures on the site to figure out every room and this is what i gathered (it's under a spoiler because i'm disgusting):

room #1

room #2:

room #3:

and room #4? maybe this is the one with the two beds?:

the order is completely arbitrary btw

i'm now 80% positive they slept in room #3. i wonder what couple sacrificed their space and comfort for dan and phil? unless dan was too scared of catching phil cooties that he actually slept somewhere else. which i suppose is more likely.

i can't wait for dan and phil to debunk this on the tuesday liveshow so i can die of embarrassment

Obviously, after winning rock-paper-scissors, Phil took the king size while Dan was relegated to curl up with the bear skin rug on the floor.