I understand that you're calling for fairness, but there's also a difference between being uncomfortable with adults in fandom spaces, which is the accusations to users and admin that you're talking about, and being uncomfortable with an adult knowingly engaging with minors and ignoring their disco...

I was going to stay out of this because I don’t post here, but I have seen people say multiple times that they are concerned by the reputation this person gives the forum and so I am going to give my opinion as someone who doesn’t have history with the people here. I have been following this issue b...

I also agree with Stakhanov. I don’t post here because I’ve repeatedly seen this forum to be incredibly biased and not open to hearing any criticism or differing opinions. Also, I am often made uncomfortable with the way Dan and Phil are discussed here, especially the lengths people go to invade the...

Wow. I was really impressed by this video. I have been unhappy with his content for quite some time. I felt it lacked a genuineness that many of his older videos had and he seemed like he wasn't enjoying what he was doing. I was also one of the people who was very hesitant when he said he was making...

Yep, he said there's "no way in heck" he's finishing the video tonight, which I suppose one could speculate could be partially because they had some behind the scenes reorganizing to do with the game leak, but could also be because of procrastination and perfectionism. Not complaining nor...

https://twitter.com/danielhowell/status/917840551952740352 no dan i couldn't tell because i don't really trust you to have done a better job Yikes, I just noticed how messy the nail polish is. If he needs someone to help him paint his nails in the future, I volunteer as tribute, although that would...

https://twitter.com/danielhowell/status/917841249335377921 WAIT WHAT??? I thought he said live show tomorrow; not today?? The video probably isn't ready, which is why he is doing the liveshow. He looks so cute in the photo, though he does look a bit uncomfortable, he said he didn’t like sunflowers ...

Still nervous about this. Could be great, could be a trainwreck :shrug: Honestly the only thing I really want from this video is for him to finally provide context to his (old?) 'brand' of using dark and depressing humor as a coping mechanism. I've said it before, but while it's 'relatable' for me ...

Ah well, grumble grumble etc. Yay a mental health vid.. can't wait to hear about how everything he said is wrong and offensive because it won't apply to everyone because it's either too vague or too specific or he makes jokes.. whee... Same here, excited for the video, less for the inevitable wave ...

I know Dan was joking, but I still really want his drunk DDR challenge to happen. I have a hard time thinking for games for them to play to be honest just because of the way they tend to upload things. I want them to do more series, but when they play things with a lot of story, they drag it out so ...

I agree with Katka and dia on this one. queerofcups , you seem to be saying that men are less sexualized than women because companies make millions off of women's bodies a year, but have you ever heard of magazines like Playgirl? Men and women are both sexualized, that's just a fact of life. I can'...

Wow. If you find my comparison and reasoning weak, I accept that. But seriously? Just let me have my opinion that men are sexualized. Yes, women are sexualized too, but I'm bringing up men because that was my focus for my post. I don't need to put a footnote on the importance of addressing the patr...

as a queer man i feel massively uncomfortable with a lot of the phandom because a lot of it definitely steps into fetishing. people might watch straight couples on youtube more to find them cute, but how often are they talking and speculating about their sex lives? implying things about the sex liv...

I think that some of the things they do which are read as romantic shouldn't be read as romantic—sharing a bed on holiday, touching each other momentarily, etc. However some things they do which aren't read as romantic by casual viewers is definitely heteronormativity, because imagine if they were ...

On assumptions affecting people's views on Dan and Phil - To be honest, I think the assumptions that come into play the most here are more based off of Dan and Phil's fans than really much that they do. Heteronormativity probably does play a role in people believing whether or not they're together,...

On assumptions affecting people's views on Dan and Phil - To be honest, I think the assumptions that come into play the most here are more based off of Dan and Phil's fans than really much that they do. Heteronormativity probably does play a role in people believing whether or not they're together,...

I think that whether you believe in phan or not really does skew how you see things, even for the most rational person. I think the looks and glances are a really good example of this. If you believe in phan, they might have meaning to you when you put that together with all the other phan-proof. L...

I'm actually kind of wary of the homophobia/heteronormativity arguments because they tend to get used to shame people. Not on here, mind you, but in general. "You don't see they're together? Well, you must be homophobic." There's just a special irony in lgbtq people being told they must b...

I also think this is very true. Remember in the video where Louise was waxing Dan's legs and she said that one time a friend of hers gave her a bikini wax and placed her hand on Louise's vagina to make it hurt less or something (this sounds weirder to me when I am typing it than it did when I heard...

If you read the comments that sometimes blow out of proportion the most boring things (like looks and glances) it's easy to dismiss this as just another silly youtube ship (like septiplier or ianthony) and brand the whole thing as delusional when it's the opposite. I think that whether you believe ...

This is a fascinating conversation! I do think heteronormativity plays a big part in casual fans not 'seeing anything' between Dan and Phil. Society kind of cultivates m/f pairings in a way that makes us assume anyone with chemistry who spends in an inordinate amount of time together must be someth...

4.) Most of my guy friends have "man crushes" so I didn't pay attention to Dan's talk of Evan Peters or anything. If there is one thing I am realizing from writing this, it is probably that as a casual viewer, I wasn't looking for anything, so I didn't see anything. I just didn't think to...

That's such an interesting thought. I agree that they've been pushing a lot of boundaries, this past year especially. Not sure if that's just me having my demon phan goggles on too tight or what... but i feel like an outsider/casual viewers perspective helps. I feel less crazy so :tu: This is how I...

I don't know how to put this, but the video was a lot more honest than I thought it would be. Like, more genuine insight and less Dan screaming (although that's also quality content tbh) I agree. I understand why some people were disappointed, but personally I was just melting the whole 7 minutes a...

eel wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:57 pm Did Phil just sing to the tune of my neck my back?

Ahaha, I knew it was funny because it was Phil singing a nsfw song rap, but couldn’t place it!