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Post by Catallena » Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:54 pm

Whoo! I survived the first episode of Produce 48. I had some time to recover, so here are some thoughts based on watching the raw episode without any real knowledge of Korean:
- I really miss BoA as representative. She was genuinely the best thing about last season, she was so nice and supportive to everyone. I just really love BoA.
- Even though Mnet probably only did it because they wanted an added layer of drama with Kaeun being there (and maybe they hoped that she would cry like last year when she saw JR) but I was happy to see Kahi. I will miss her for the rest of this season. I'm sure returning judge Bae Yoon Jung will do a fine job of traumatizing contestants for the rest of their lives in her place, but Kahi is more charming about it.
- They're definitely setting up the Japanese contestants as less talented than the Korean ones. Yoon Jung was pretty brutal about the lacking performances as well. But some girls were still really impressive, Takeuchi Miyu even snatched an A rank!
- Sakura made some statement about how Korean idols can break through in Japan, yet when Japanese idols leave Japan they don't get recognition. It wasn't a very smart thing to say considering probably the most important reason as to why Japanese idols aren't as popular worldwide is due to how inaccessible the market is. There's not much for people to recognize if they can't find it.
- I was super happy to see that everyone seemed to to get along and even tried to bond a bit, despite obvious language barrier. I need wholesome friendships!

My one and true fave, Miss Lee Kaeun did really well and I'm so proud of her. And I cried so much. She told the story how she has just been waiting for a comeback for 5 years, and how she thought she was alright but then seeing her old trainee friends go onto the first season and be more successful made her realize that she really wasn't. She even regretted debuting, because if she hadn't she maybe could've gone on the show with them instead of watching it at home. Bae Yoon Jung asked her whether After School has any plans or whether they're disbanded. Kaeun said that After School has not disbanded, but the fact that Pledis allowed her to go on the show 'does make it seem like that'. She asked to go on the show herself btw, seeing NU'EST last season inspired her. Anyway, she got an A rank which is what she deserved. :happytears:

Other girls that have performed and I liked:

Heo Yoonjin (Pledis) - Kaeun's new little sister. For a trainee of only 6 months she was really impressive and I felt a bit sorry for her that there was no focus on her due to Kaeun's story. Her C rank should've at least been B imo, but I hope she'll be able to rise. She's a talented cutie!
Lee Chaeyeon (WM) - I never watched Sixteen (she used to be in JYP and was in the running to be a Twice member) but she's super talented! I was so impressed by her dancing and stage presence. Her vocals are more than decent as well.
Yamada Noe (NGT48) - She was so much fun to watch, one of the girls with the strongest stage presence. I can definitely see why the judges liked her so much, I hope she does well.
Hwang Soyeon (Wellmade Yedang) - The girl who looks a bit like Sunmi and danced to Gashina. Holy shit, she was awesome! I hope she becomes more popular, because she's low in rankings atm.
Takeuchi Miyu (AKB48) - We love a vocalist! She's the highest ranking Japanese contestant so far, the only one at A. I liked the other girls in her team as well; Iwatate Sato and poor Goto Moe who lost her voice (due to allergies?) and couldn't sing.

I also liked the Yuehua Girls and Starship Girls, both teams had strong performances and their personalities stood out because they were quite chatty and loud. But I don't have a fave among them yet. The HOW Entertainment girls definitely had the most entertaining performance of the episode, special shout out to them.

Next week it's time for the others (including Sakura and Jurina) to perform and get their ranks.


Jurina won the Senbatsu Sousenkyo btw, and Sakura placed 3rd (kinda unexpected?). It was apparently Sakura's last Sousenkyo as well.


In non PD48 related news, BLACKPINK had their comeback. I really tried to like it, but I just wasn't very impressed? The song was underwhelming and their MV aesthetics have become predictable. Forever Young would've been a better title track imo, at least I can bop to that a little.
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Re: Kpop Thread

Post by Amiaw » Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:07 am

Catallena wrote:
Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:54 pm
In non PD48 related news, BLACKPINK had their comeback. I really tried to like it, but I just wasn't very impressed? The song was underwhelming and their MV aesthetics have become predictable. Forever Young would've been a better title track imo, at least I can bop to that a little.
MTE. The song is underwhelming. I did like the scene in the MV with Jisoo and the paparazzi/fans holding their phones like guns but that was the most interesting part of the whole comeback. Everything else- the bindi, teddy's reliance on using middle eastern inspired music and recycled beats, and some of scenes in the video- were straight up lifted from old 2NE1/BB videos and songs.

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Post by Catallena » Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:31 am

Amiaw wrote:
Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:07 am
Catallena wrote:
Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:54 pm
In non PD48 related news, BLACKPINK had their comeback. I really tried to like it, but I just wasn't very impressed? The song was underwhelming and their MV aesthetics have become predictable. Forever Young would've been a better title track imo, at least I can bop to that a little.
MTE. The song is underwhelming. I did like the scene in the MV with Jisoo and the paparazzi/fans holding their phones like guns but that was the most interesting part of the whole comeback. Everything else- the bindi, teddy's reliance on using middle eastern inspired music and recycled beats, and some of scenes in the video- were straight up lifted from old 2NE1/BB videos and songs.
That scene was very cool, I liked it too. But Jenny stroking the fennec fox (exotic animals are not for petting dammit) and that bedazzled tank... it was like watching I Am The Best Version 2. I genuinely like this group but I truly wish they were allowed to be more than 2NE2, because I feel like that's not who they are at all.

But they're successful like this, so it's not like anything will change. Just like Twice won't change their sound no matter how dead inside the members (especially Nayeon) look over having to do more of the same shit while they have shown during concerts that they're capable of other things too. And I can be mad about it, but then I look at how Gfriend's first concept change with Fingertip went and I suddenly get it :shrug:
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Post by jaej » Mon Jul 02, 2018 11:04 pm

after planning to watch produce48 i've watched nothing but a few clips so far but seeing nako yabuki go from f to a rank and ranking in the top 20 so far has warmed my heart so much <3 <3 i said i'd watch for drama but really i'll watch for underdog success and drama re: jaejoong
this last month of promos in japan has made me so mad about what he hasn't been able to do for the last 8 years. he does too well on tv to be blacklisted for so long but seeing him now being so much more confident and mature compared to the last time he was able to be on variety shows just makes me so <3 <3 he's sold over 100k of his single in his first week and i just cannot WAIT until his next full album is out. i started sobbing before he even sang and by the time he got to stand by u i was dead. i'm a decade deep into stanning this idiot and i didn't think i'd still be so dedicated to an idol in 20gayteen but here we are. he only sang his own parts from the old songs. ugh his mind :prideheart2:


re: hyde in the spoiler just because less related but i mentioned him before
he's released 3 songs since i last mentioned him so... i liked who's gonna save us but i would've DIED over it when i was about 15. it's very that. it sounds a bit more like a vamps song than a hyde solo to me and i vastly prefer hyde's solo stuff to vamps, but i think i still prefer it to most vamps songs. i feel pretty much the same about after light except i like it even less. i'll still listen to it but it's going on my guilty pleasures emo kid playlist. having a solo with vamps-esque songs right after saying vamps was on hiatus definitely makes me think the split is because hyde really is a nightmare to work with because i don't think these were written with the intention of being a solo at first.

midnight celebration II though... is That Song. midnight celebration is one of my favourite hyde songs and i think i prefer this version to the original . so overall that's midnight celebration II >>> who's gonna save us >> after light. i hope there's a slightly more roentgen song at some point because that album is incredible and soothing and chill and i'd like a song in japanese to balance out 3 english ones.
i'll post this outside of the spoiler because god i love hyde and i hope he doesn't stop touring outside of asia while he's doing solo work. vamps have played in the uk a couple of times at least and where in glasgow just last year but i didn't get a chance to see that beautiful little man in person and it's devastating. i want to see hello played live and remember being a young boy and realising that mcr's i'm not okay completely rips this song off i'm joking. no i'm not. they did
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Post by Catallena » Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:29 am

NOOOOOOO D: She was my my second fave out of the JPN contestants, I'm so sad. But her health is the most important.

I can't believe the first elimination is already coming up, time flies. tbh at the moment I don't really have a full top 12 yet? This was the one I wrote down on Friday which isn't in any particular order aside from Kaeun and Miyu being my top 2. But now that Jurina is out I have another free spot...

1. Lee Kaeun (Pledis)
2. Takeuchi Miyu (AKB48)
3. Hwang Soyeon (Wellmade Yedang) -i know she isn't gonna make it lol, but i hope she'll survive one elimination-
4. Matsui Jurina (SKE48) NEW FREE SPOT
5. Miyawaki Sakura (HKT48)
6. Lee Chaeyeon (WM)
7. Kwon Eunbi (Woollim)
8. Ahn Yujin (Starship)
9. Choi Yena (Yuehua)
10. Heo Yoonjin (Pledis)
11. Yabuki Nako (HKT48)
12. FREE SPOT

So yeah, Kaeun and Miyu are my obvious faves of the season and I'm so happy that they're doing well. I'm shook over Kaeun being first two weeks in a row, but I feel like it'll drop for the elimination because Mnet has been giving her very little screentime since the center battle with Sakura and because her team lost the cover mission. All of Peek A Boo Team 1's time went to Mnet bullying a sick Gyuri over her failed high note. I can't believe I had Kaeun and Jurina in one team and never even got them chatting in Japanese. At least I'll always have their karaoke video...

Meanwhile, Miyu is the queen of having zero screentime since her first evaluation but making the public root for her anyway. As soon as word got around that she's not very popular within AKB, she immediately gained Potential Reversal Icon status and I'm so happy for her. She's very talented and lovely, and I think that with the kind of training she receives on Produce she'll be able to get even better and reach full potential.

I've got my eye on a bunch of potential picks for my free spots (and Soyeon's spot for when she gets booted next elimination lol) but we'll see how they do in the next mission. Everything can change. There's also a bunch of girls I genuinely really like, but don't want in the top 12.

Non Produce related kpop stuff:

NU'EST W's comeback with Deja Vu was solid, JR with that eye makeup does things to me.
Kyungri/Gyeongree (can Star Empire please stick to one romanization) made her solo debut with Blue Moon, and I actually really liked it. I hope that Four Nine Muses comes back soon as well tho.

Also one hit wonders Momoland did the same song as last time, and Apink actually did something different than usual... and I just can't seem to care about either lol.

Twice, Seventeen, Chungha, GFriend, and KARD are the comebacks I'll check out this month. Hyuna's charity project Triple H is also coming back, I might check that just because I love Hyuna.
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Post by dc34 » Thu Aug 02, 2018 9:33 pm

Produce is struggling in ratings right now which isn't a shock cause Mnet keeps showing the same 5 people and its getting boring

Give Miyu screentime you cowards!!!!

Miyu is my number 1 pick and if she doesn't make in the group, im not stanning. Other picks are kirin chan, miu, miho, and kaeun.
Mako was my other pick but rumor has it she got eliminated. Which is pissing me off that both the hand clap team other than sae and instruction team all got eliminated when they were the best dance performances.

In other news I love Chungha's comeback. I mostly follow girl groups because I don't give a fuck about boy groups other than Shinee.

f(x) is my ultimate bias group, but I doubt they're ever coming back, they basically got after schooled. I'm so proud of Amber and her Nike campaign which is all I'ver ever wanted from her. She's my number 1 in kpop so I got so excited when I saw it

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Post by RRR98 » Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:06 pm

dc34 wrote:
Thu Aug 02, 2018 9:33 pm
Produce is struggling in ratings right now which isn't a shock cause Mnet keeps showing the same 5 people and its getting boring

Give Miyu screentime you cowards!!!!

Miyu is my number 1 pick and if she doesn't make in the group, im not stanning. Other picks are kirin chan, miu, miho, and kaeun.
Mako was my other pick but rumor has it she got eliminated. Which is pissing me off that both the hand clap team other than sae and instruction team all got eliminated when they were the best dance performances.

In other news I love Chungha's comeback. I mostly follow girl groups because I don't give a fuck about boy groups other than Shinee.

f(x) is my ultimate bias group, but I doubt they're ever coming back, they basically got after schooled. I'm so proud of Amber and her Nike campaign which is all I'ver ever wanted from her. She's my number 1 in kpop so I got so excited when I saw it
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Post by Catallena » Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:55 pm

Thought I'd write something on Produce 48 since we're already at the Concept Evaluation round tomorrow.

Honestly, it's pretty clear that the formula has gone stale and that the public has just grown tired of surival shows (don't forget that after Broduce we had Idol School, The Unit and MixNine which all didn't do well). Together with some anti-Japan boycotting, an already over saturated market, and people being tired of Mnet's bullshit and the shows's predictability... I'm not surprised that this season hasn't gotten a lot of hype. The disillusion with what this show can do for careers is real as well. None of the ex I.O.I girls who have debuted since then have really hit big yet, Chungha is probably the one with the most success and recognition cause she doesn't have to carry the dead weight of another 10 members in a group like in WJSN, Gugudan, DIA, Weki Meki and Pristin. In a weird twist of fate, (G)I-DLE has surpassed them and that's the group headed by the girl who ranked 20th. People are now worrying about the future careers of some Wanna One members as well, fearing that without W1 people will just forget about some of them.

Anyway, we've had two rankings in the last week. The elimination episode where we finally saw full rankings after a few weeks of nothing, and the new ranking that Mnet randomly uploaded a few days ago (possibly because they weren't happy with it lol?). Honestly, I don't have a Top 12 right now. More like a Top 10, where the last two spots just kinda keep changing between a bunch of contestants (mainly Yena, Yiren, Sae and Miru).

My own current Top 12:
1. Lee Kaeun (Pledis)
2. Takeuchi Miyu (AKB48)
3. Lee Chaeyeon (WM)
4. Miyawaki Sakura (HKT48)
5. Park Haeyoon (FNC)
6. Heo Yoonjin (Pledis)
7. Han Chowon (CUBE)
8. Kwon Eunbi (Woollim)
9. Yabuki Nako (HKT48)
10. Miyazaki Miho (AKB48)

Probably the most notable absences on this list compared to the real rankings are the Starship girls and Kang Hyewon so let me explain that.
- Kang Hyewon is someone I might accept as this year's Sohye or Guanlin (but only because I like the Rap Queen storyline that keeps Cheetah employed on this show) but I need her to move the fuck down from those high rankings. She doesn't belong anywhere above #9.
- Jang Wonyoung is a sweetheart, but I can't root for her. She's 13 (will be 14 when the group debuts) and hasn't even finished middle school yet. Just no. She obviously has potential as an idol, but I feel like it'd be better for her to train normally and return to the scene in 2+ years.
- Ahn Yujin is... bland. I had her as a filler pick for quite a long time, but really nothing about her interests me. That just tells me that she needs more training tbh, she ain't ready for debut. She tumbled out of Top 12 in that random mid-week ranking due to an attitude controversy though (did Hyungseob teach you nothing??), so I wonder if Mnet will save her or not. I thought she was their fave.

Speaking of attitude controversies, Yoonjin's rising star came tumbling down hard as well. Challenging Nako again on Center position for Into The New World after the decision was already made was not a good idea. I wonder whether she will recover from this.

RIP to Mako, Hyunah, Eunyoung, Chiyori, Noe, and Choyeon. Y'all deserved better. Also Soyeon but she already got kicked out in the first elimination.

btw can they please replace Lee Seunggi as Representative/MC with literally anyone else?? He does not want to be there, he barely is there, and tbh Bora outshined when she replaced him for two episodes. Bring her back.
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Re: Kpop Thread

Post by dc34 » Fri Aug 10, 2018 8:01 pm

RRR98 wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:06 pm
dc34 wrote:
Thu Aug 02, 2018 9:33 pm
Produce is struggling in ratings right now which isn't a shock cause Mnet keeps showing the same 5 people and its getting boring

Give Miyu screentime you cowards!!!!

Miyu is my number 1 pick and if she doesn't make in the group, im not stanning. Other picks are kirin chan, miu, miho, and kaeun.
Mako was my other pick but rumor has it she got eliminated. Which is pissing me off that both the hand clap team other than sae and instruction team all got eliminated when they were the best dance performances.

In other news I love Chungha's comeback. I mostly follow girl groups because I don't give a fuck about boy groups other than Shinee.

f(x) is my ultimate bias group, but I doubt they're ever coming back, they basically got after schooled. I'm so proud of Amber and her Nike campaign which is all I'ver ever wanted from her. She's my number 1 in kpop so I got so excited when I saw it
Yay another meU whose bias is amber. She’s also going to be in a indie movie and if you want to stay updated on her then you should check out her thread on onehallyu because we have one dedicated poster whom owns everything it seems
I'm not that excited for her movie, but since its Amber I will most likely watch lol
I used to post on her thread and the f(x) one but I mostly lurk now and occasionally post on the Produce 48 thread.

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