The Rest of the Foursome

fancybum · Sun Apr 24, 2016 7:34 pm

iero wrote:great almost 4 hour stream i hope he does them more often bc i enjoy watching him throw subtle shade for hours

I'd like to put in a vote for 'more often, but shorter' because damn. I just started making soup halfway through because I no longer have the will to go shopping or be productive.
4 hours

, imagine if Dan stayed on that long. If Phil tried it he'd just drop dead 65 minutes in.

My highlights from his 'giving advice' section:

chat: My math teacher bullies me
-Are you a little bit stupid?
-Next time your math teacher bullies you, go and hit them with a stick and tell them crabstickz told you to.

"You math bastard. 2 + 2 = fuck you"

chat: Any tips/tricks for taking exams?
-I left school at 28, never taken an exam since, apart from my wizardry exam. Which I'm not allowed to talk about because it's about the magic world and you don't know about that because you're a muggle. Do I have any tips? No. Do your revision and answer the questions correctly. The rest of your life does not hinge on it, ok?

chat: Advice on turning 18?
-Don't hit people. Don't hit anyone.

chat: I'm addicted to self-harming and I have no one to talk to
-Um... I don't know what you should do. There's probably somewhere online that has advice... Talk to one of them websites that is about that.
-To people in the chat who are struggling, you can do it, be strong.

Then he browsed through YT videos and talked about how he needed to leave for like 15 minutes.
"I just need to go, but I can't. The problem is you're all validating me with your attention. And as long as you're validating me with attention, I'm trapped here. So if you could please stop validating me, then I shall go."

He said he'd go on again tomorrow, we'll see. So creepy, but honestly I just want to give him an uncomfortably long hug. Like maybe neverending.

edit: a good quote from earlier in the show (about how he doesn't really read comments because he thinks it's bad for you): "Like sugar, it gives you a little kick, but over time it rots your ass."

hunnyftw · Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:13 pm

thank you, fancybum

I don't believe he'll be live again today but let's wait and see, maybe he'll prove me wrong.

Some of his one-liners are just great. The ones about comments rotting your ass over time or about the liveshow peeps giving him validation are pure gold. I love this kind of very dark humour, even though it also makes me just a liiitle bit worried for him

iero · Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:25 pm

double post

iero · Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:26 pm

hunnyftw wrote:thank you, fancybum

I don't believe he'll be live again today but let's wait and see, maybe he'll prove me wrong.

Some of his one-liners are just great. The ones about comments rotting your ass over time or about the liveshow peeps giving him validation are pure gold. I love this kind of very dark humour, even though it also makes me just a liiitle bit worried for him

he's live right now

hunnyftw · Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:40 pm

Haha, I love to be proven wrong this way. Now D&P please prove me wrong with my theory that you can't post more than 4 videos a month on all of your channels combined

I needed something to listen to while doing my makeup. That's my plan for the next 20minutes sorted

jess · Mon Apr 25, 2016 5:34 pm

I just went to watch the one from yesterday, but I was pleasantly surprised to find he's live now!

fancybum · Mon Apr 25, 2016 5:46 pm

I hate 'guesting' on younow oh god it's so awkward and uncomfortable I'm dying.

iero · Mon Apr 25, 2016 5:50 pm

i'm cringing sm i keep muting the sound lol
nothing against the people guesting i just can't deal with awkward conversation

jess · Mon Apr 25, 2016 5:50 pm

fancybum wrote:I hate 'guesting' on younow oh god it's so awkward and uncomfortable I'm dying.

You need to guest with Chris on YouNow!

Please!

fancybum · Mon Apr 25, 2016 5:57 pm

iero wrote:i'm cringing sm i keep muting the sound lol
nothing against the people guesting i just can't deal with awkward conversation

Same! I had another window in front of it and kept flicking the sound on/off. I can't deal with it.

jess wrote:
fancybum wrote:I hate 'guesting' on younow oh god it's so awkward and uncomfortable I'm dying.
You need to guest with Chris on YouNow! Please!

No! I'd get so nervous I would start blurting out all the questions I really want to know the answers to that would be all kinds of boundary-crossing.

Also I would probs barf.

jess · Mon Apr 25, 2016 6:09 pm

fancybum wrote: No! I'd get so nervous I would start blurting out all the questions I really want to know the answers to that would be all kinds of boundary-crossing. Also I would probs barf.

Let's be honest, he'd probably love all of that! This is Chris we're talking about.

& now he's gone. It has become the "Will Chris actually be back tomorrow?" waiting game!

fancybum · Mon Apr 25, 2016 6:27 pm

jess wrote:
fancybum wrote: No! I'd get so nervous I would start blurting out all the questions I really want to know the answers to that would be all kinds of boundary-crossing. Also I would probs barf.
Let's be honest, he'd probably love all of that! This is Chris we're talking about.

& now he's gone. It has become the "Will Chris actually be back tomorrow?" waiting game!

Well if he does turn up again tomorrow and I'm home at the time... maybe... I'll have to up my makeup game though

The interaction is nice, but also a little worrying. If he's got 2-4 hours a day to kill talking to a camera, he should film it for YT since he's not making any money off of younow. But maybe he's somewhat serious with the 'brainstorming' aspect of it and is just using it to warm up a little. How serious is he about having no friends? He seems to swing back and forth between resenting his audience and being appreciative of them but doesn't trust their reasoning for enjoying him (constantly asking why people are even watching the stream). Does he do the same with real people in his life? I hope he's not as isolated as he appears to be..

jess · Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:04 pm

fancybum wrote: Well if he does turn up again tomorrow and I'm home at the time... maybe... I'll have to up my makeup game though

I really want this to happen!

fancybum wrote: The interaction is nice, but also a little worrying. If he's got 2-4 hours a day to kill talking to a camera, he should film it for YT since he's not making any money off of younow. But maybe he's somewhat serious with the 'brainstorming' aspect of it and is just using it to warm up a little. How serious is he about having no friends? He seems to swing back and forth between resenting his audience and being appreciative of them but doesn't trust their reasoning for enjoying him (constantly asking why people are even watching the stream). Does he do the same with real people in his life? I hope he's not as isolated as he appears to be..

He really does not seem to know what he wants to do with his life or career... & he seems to have been in limbo for quite some time now. When he asked the girl who her favorite YouTubers were, I pretty much felt like he wanted her to say , PJ, etc. because he thinks no on watches him for him & he kinda almost wants people to validate that for him for whatever reason. I actually find him fascinating all on his own; completely outside the foursome ish. But I also have a serious weakness for brutally honest yet sarcastic as fuck, broken people... which is what Chris reads like a majority of the time.

felucca · Tue Apr 26, 2016 1:13 am

So I made a condensed 30 minute version of the 4 hour liveshow:

Only caught the start of today's liveshow but if what he said in it pans out and he actually does liveshows every day for a while now, that'd be really cool. If I KNEW he'd be on I'd totally do what he said and go hang out there whenever I didn't have anything better to do, or keep him on as background noise while cooking and cleaning etc.

(I'd timestamp the interesting parts of the above video for y'all but I'm soooooo sick of it, kill me.)

fancybum · Tue Apr 26, 2016 2:27 am

felucca wrote:So I made a condensed 30 minute version of the 4 hour liveshow:

Yay the math quote made it in! His delivery is everything.

I think I did a long waffle on gg about this semi-recently re: his 2013 liveshow, but it always stands out to me (then and now) the way he talks about Dan. I know it's because people keep bringing him up, but he doesn't ever have much to say about Phil (and his PJ comments seem more like he's just joking about a friend), but with Dan... I feel like he's fixated on him in a different way that sometimes verges on jealousy or maybe even annoyance. Like he's got a history of kind of teasing Dan (like using the banana licking photo in his videos back in the day)- but bringing up "the Dan face" and his subscriber count (when they're not actually in touch anymore so it's not like it's just friendly ribbing) feels like something else but I don't quite know what. Does he resent Dan's success or even just him as a person? And if it's one, it's both, since Phil mostly shares the same success, but he's left out of the discussion. I would love to hear if anybody has any thoughts on that, but also feel free to tell me I'm crazy or overthinking it.

iero · Tue Apr 26, 2016 3:13 am

fancybum wrote:
I think I did a long waffle on gg about this semi-recently re: his 2013 liveshow, but it always stands out to me (then and now) the way he talks about Dan. I know it's because people keep bringing him up, but he doesn't ever have much to say about Phil (and his PJ comments seem more like he's just joking about a friend), but with Dan... I feel like he's fixated on him in a different way that sometimes verges on jealousy or maybe even annoyance. Like he's got a history of kind of teasing Dan (like using the banana licking photo in his videos back in the day)- but bringing up "the Dan face" and his subscriber count (when they're not actually in touch anymore so it's not like it's just friendly ribbing) feels like something else but I don't quite know what. Does he resent Dan's success or even just him as a person? And if it's one, it's both, since Phil mostly shares the same success, but he's left out of the discussion. I would love to hear if anybody has any thoughts on that, but also feel free to tell me I'm crazy or overthinking it.

this crossed my mind during the streams also. i've not watched his 2013 liveshow but i noticed it in the recent ones. i sensed trying to hide envy with humour. i find it strange he joked about dan when they don't really talk anymore and he doesn't have his number, like he said. if that's the case it's strange how he didn't really mention phil as much

i feel like he's doubting himself and constantly comparing himself to others in these liveshows? like even when he's jokingly comparing his instagram likes to pj's

thank you felucca

wtfamidoinghere · Tue Apr 26, 2016 1:06 pm

Maybe he used to identify more with Dan, because Dan is also self reflective with a tendency to isolate himself. He (Dan) talked very open about his existential crisis that came with insecurity about where his life was going and not really knowing what he wanted. Since Chris still seems like he doesn't really know what he wants, maybe he envies Dan because he thinks Dan got over that and now has a direction/purpose.
That would explain why he's more envious of Dan than Phil or Pj. If you thought someone similar to you at some point and that person then moves on but you don't, that's harder to stomach imo.

That's what came to my mind when i read you posts. But i'm probably way off, because i'm just a casual Chris viewer

fancybum · Tue Apr 26, 2016 2:26 pm

He's live again! (and Alfie Deyes was watching for a bit lol)

edit: he's simultaneously live on youtube too

felucca · Tue Apr 26, 2016 2:37 pm

Omg I just woke up and he's on!

And yeah I agree about Dan, it's... interesting. He did say in his ask.fm he didn't even really know Dan ever. Which makes sense, seeing as PJ introduced him to Phil and Phil introduced him to Dan, so Dan's three degrees of separation from him.

^who made this? it's excellent

jaej · Tue Apr 26, 2016 3:15 pm

felucca wrote:Omg I just woke up and he's on!

And yeah I agree about Dan, it's... interesting. He did say in his ask.fm he didn't even really know Dan ever. Which makes sense, seeing as PJ introduced him to Phil and Phil introduced him to Dan, so Dan's three degrees of separation from him.

^who made this? it's excellent

meee

i don't think i've posted in this tread before so here's a mini opinion: i can/want to/sometimes like chris. i think he can be amazing and im sympathetic because he's obviously struggling/struggled with some things, but i worry he crosses a line sometimes that makes me uncomfortable as a viewers. there's an honestly that makes you uncomfortable but you like it because it's refreshing and interesting and captivating, but for me now and then (in the last couple of years) he's gone past that and it's a genuine uncomfortable feeling. i wish him well, enjoy some of his stuff still and look forward to content, but i find his attitude off putting at times. his spoof dance film trailer still makes me cry laughing

fancybum · Tue Apr 26, 2016 3:16 pm

felucca wrote:Omg I just woke up and he's on!

And yeah I agree about Dan, it's... interesting. He did say in his ask.fm he didn't even really know Dan ever. Which makes sense, seeing as PJ introduced him to Phil and Phil introduced him to Dan, so Dan's three degrees of separation from him.

It's kind of funny that he's friends with Jimmy0010, and I get the same vibe from him about Dan. Jimmy likes Phil but is kind of dismissive about Dan (like when he & Charlie read out The Urge for that charity livestream), which probably is just because Dan is more closed off to strangers and they take that personally? I wonder if they all shit-talk him a bit in private.

wtfamidoinghere wrote:Maybe he used to identify more with Dan, because Dan is also self reflective with a tendency to isolate himself. He (Dan) talked very open about his existential crisis that came with insecurity about where his life was going and not really knowing what he wanted. Since Chris still seems like he doesn't really know what he wants, maybe he envies Dan because he thinks Dan got over that and now has a direction/purpose.
That would explain why he's more envious of Dan than Phil or Pj. If you thought someone similar to you at some point and that person then moves on but you don't, that's harder to stomach imo.

That's really interesting. He has kind of indicated in the past that he's a bit jealous of what D&P have, so maybe he's envious that Dan had somebody to help him out (or just generally be supportive) in a way that Chris didn't.

jess · Tue Apr 26, 2016 4:37 pm

Thank you for the recap, felucca. I probably would have never watched the entire first one.

He is quickly becoming my favorite background noise at work. Thank you, Chris!

aralik · Tue Apr 26, 2016 4:41 pm

I don't know Chris too much, only from what i've read here basically. i have his younow on in the background at the moment and he's talking about how humans put everything on the internet and also are working on developing robots and artificial intelligence. he went down a dark road of seriously (and calmly) explaining how robots are one day gonna get really intelligent and capable of understanding emotions and will realize humans are bad for the world and will kill us all. the whole logic and reasoning was there and i could not help but agree. this does not help my recent "constantly questioning what the point of life is" period.

fancybum · Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:11 pm

I think this was the best stream yet, he seemed more comfortable/positive.

Timestamps I took note of:

And then ended with a 'bet you can't draw':

which he also posted on instagram. Good times.

hunnyftw · Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:18 pm

fancybum wrote: Timestamps I took note of:
1:06: talking about self help books
"more often than not, it has to go through your own perception filter of who you are and your rituals that you're stuck with in your head. You've actually got to change within"

I guess I'm a lucky person because I literally listened to him only for two minutes today and I managed to catch exactly this moment Seriously. I agree with him so so much on this, especially on the bolded part.

wtfamidoinghere, I also see Dan and Chris as having many similar tendencies, especially when it comes to their selfcriticism. So to me your take on it all seems very interesting and I don't think you're "way off" at all