First up: The infamous Sonic the Hedgehog boxer shorts
The saga begins with a now-privated video from May 6, 2010 called “Swine Flu” (originally titled “Sea Panther”), which Phil filmed while on holiday in Florida. In this video, Phil shows off some Sonic boxers at 1:51, saying, “I got some really cool boxer shorts, which I wanted to show you. ‘Super Sonic.’ How cool are these? I would show you, but I think at this angle it would be a bit inappropriate.” Then he shows the Japanese writing on the boxers and asks, “What does that say, by the way, foreign people? Let me know. If you tell me, you could win a shell.”
In his next video (which is still available on his channel), “United States of Phil,” he returns to the subject of the underwear at 2:34: “My boxers said ‘Sonic the hedgehog,’ surprisingly, so thanks to everyone who told me that.”
He inserts the clip of the underwear from the previous video, which is how people are still able to get screenshots of it and stuff, even though “Swine Flu” has been privated. This also explains why there is confusion over whether or not Phil privated the video where he shows the underwear — He actually showed it in two videos; one is now private while the other is still available on his channel.
The next time the Sonic underwear makes an appearance, it is in the video “How To Make British Pancakes” from March 8, 2011 — ten months after Phil first showed the underwear.
This time, Dan is wearing the underwear:
Dan staunchly denies that he was sharing Phil’s underwear. His story is that he and Phil both own their own pair.
He repeats this claim three times:
1) In a (now-deleted) annotation:
I would just like to make clear xD
that I -am not- wearing Phil’s underwear! o_o lmao
we both own the same pair from Next
after arguing over who should get to have them
we both bought them.
NOW STOP BEING CREEPERS. =p
2) In a (now-deleted) response to a comment on the video:
Comment: “i’d just like to point out that not only is dan wearing phil’s t-shirt he is also wearing his boxers :3”
Dan: no actually paul griffiths sent us both that t-shirt and we both bought those boxers =p you creepers!
[The t-shirt he is referring to is the orange Babycakes t-shirt.]
And 3) In a vyou answer from July 6, 2011:
Question: I've noticed you and Phil often wear the same clothes...explain yourself!
Dan’s response: No… pfft, “often” — what do you mean often? ...Okay, in that one video, I have the SAME pair of underwear as Phil; we both walked into Next and saw a pair of Sonic underwear and we had an argument over who should buy it, so… we both own the same pair of underwear. And for that one video, I borrowed his Babycakes t-shirt because everything I own is black and I wanted to not look boring ...“Often”? Really? [laughs] Creepers.
[The “one video” he is referring to is obviously the “British Pancakes” video. Note how his story about the t-shirt contradicts the one from his comment on the video]
In a vyou from January 31, 2012, he also sticks to the “two pairs of underwear” story, this time saying the Phil threw his pair away because it ended up being too small:
Question: Have you and Phil ever got your sonic underwear mixed up?
Dan’s response: Heh, no, because Phil actually bought, like, a size too small, so, that kept the confusion from being a continued thing because he threw his away because they didn’t fit.
[It is worth noting that Phil had owned the underwear for at least ten months when Dan said “we both own the same pair of underwear” — present tense, implying that they are both still in possession of their own pair. And in this vyou answer, Dan doesn’t say they shrank, but that Phil “bought a size too small.” If Phil truly “bought a size too small,” wouldn’t he have noticed right away? Why would he have kept them for more than ten months before “throwing them away because they didn’t fit”?]
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QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS:
Q: Did Phil buy his pair of Sonic underwear while he was on holiday in Florida?
A: Not necessarily. Many people take the “Swine Flu” video as evidence that Phil bought his underwear in Florida, which would directly contradict Dan’s claim that “we both walked into Next and saw a pair of Sonic underwear and we had an argument over who should buy it…” HOWEVER, if you look at the quote above (“I got some really cool boxer shorts, which I wanted to show you”), you’ll notice that Phil never actually says that he got the underwear IN FLORIDA. He just says he got them. It could be that he got them in the UK in Next, like Dan said, and then brought them to Florida, and decided to include them in his video.
Q: Were the underwear actually available in Next stores?
A: It would seem so. This website about Sonic Gear includes a photo of the underwear and says, “This is a boxer/breif style underwear which can be found at NEXT stores in the UK area. It's done in Japanese style, with classic stock art, and Sonic's name written in Japanese beside it. The background is a loud mix of red and green, with the hot pink text and blue Sonic mixed in. The waistband (for whatever reason) says "Super Sonic" though actual Super Sonic is no where to be found. Loud though it may be, it is fantastic to see modern underwear in reasonable sizes with Sonic on it! A great item to collect.”
Dan’s repeated references to Next (in his vyou and in the annotation) seem like evidence that Next was truly involved somehow: Either Phil bought the underwear and Next and Dan knew that, or Phil bought the underwear somewhere else and he and Dan noticed that Next also sold them, or Dan is telling the truth and he and Phil both bought a pair at Next.
It seems odd that Phil would buy the underwear in Florida and Dan would magically know to say they bought them at Next.
Q: Is the pancake video the only time Dan has ever worn the boxers on camera?
A: No, they have appeared in on at least two other occasions:
1) In Phil’s video “I DRANK EGGNOG” from November 2, 2011. At 1:11:
2) In Dan’s video “Truth or Dare 3” from August 5, 2011. At 3:55ish, Dan isn’t actually wearing the underwear, but Sonic underwear can be seen on the bathroom counter when Dan does the mentos & coke thing under his shirt.
Behind them is a black pair of Calvin Klein underwear, idk if that's relevant.
Q: Has Phil ever worn the boxers on camera?
A: Not to my knowledge. (Note: if Dan is telling the truth, Phil’s own pair were discarded sometime between July 6, 2011 and January 31, 2012.)
Q: Is there any actual evidence that Dan is lying?
A: Yes and no. It is impossible to prove that Dan and Phil did not at one point both own an identical pair of Sonic underwear. However, Dan frequently linked his comments about the underwear with explanations for why he is also wearing Phil’s orange Babycakes shirt in the pancake video. His comments about the Babycakes shirt are contradictory and could be taken as hints that he’s making things up about the underwear as well. (He talks about the underwear and the shirt in the same sentence, and if he was lying about the shirts, then maybe he was lying about the underwear).
Q: Is this the only example of boxers that Dan and Phil have (possibly) shared?
A: NO.
Which brings us to the blue musical note boxers….
Neither Dan nor Phil has ever addressed this pair of boxers (except perhaps implicitly when Phil privated a video). This case is generally agreed on as an unambiguous, indisputable example of them sharing underwear, or at least of Dan wearing underwear that used to belong to Phil.
Phil showed these boxers on camera in a now-privated video called “I found a slinky.” It was published on February 1, 2009, eight months before he met Dan in real life (so no chance of them going into a store together and both buying a pair, and no chance of Dan leaving his own underwear at Phil’s house).
Q: The “I found a slinky” video is now privated. Did Phil private it because of the underwear?
A: Possibly, but it is worth mentioning that this video also contained a few references to Charlieskies and the “Pabloislove” channel, so would have arguably had reason to private it even apart from the underwear.
Screenshot of Phil showing the music note boxers:
Dan can be seen wearing these underwear in at least two later videos:
1) Dan’s video “Inappropriate Winking” from September 26, 2011(at 1:55):
2) Phil’s video “How to make Christmas cookies!” from Dec 22, 2011:
To sum it up:
Yes, they have shared at least one pair of underwear, the pair with music notes. They’ve probably shared two pairs (Dan denies that they ever shared the Sonic underwear, but although Dan’s denial cannot be disproven, there is reason to doubt it).
Coming up next, a post about them sharing clothes in general.....
The saga begins with a now-privated video from May 6, 2010 called “Swine Flu” (originally titled “Sea Panther”), which Phil filmed while on holiday in Florida. In this video, Phil shows off some Sonic boxers at 1:51, saying, “I got some really cool boxer shorts, which I wanted to show you. ‘Super Sonic.’ How cool are these? I would show you, but I think at this angle it would be a bit inappropriate.” Then he shows the Japanese writing on the boxers and asks, “What does that say, by the way, foreign people? Let me know. If you tell me, you could win a shell.”
In his next video (which is still available on his channel), “United States of Phil,” he returns to the subject of the underwear at 2:34: “My boxers said ‘Sonic the hedgehog,’ surprisingly, so thanks to everyone who told me that.”
He inserts the clip of the underwear from the previous video, which is how people are still able to get screenshots of it and stuff, even though “Swine Flu” has been privated. This also explains why there is confusion over whether or not Phil privated the video where he shows the underwear — He actually showed it in two videos; one is now private while the other is still available on his channel.
The next time the Sonic underwear makes an appearance, it is in the video “How To Make British Pancakes” from March 8, 2011 — ten months after Phil first showed the underwear.
This time, Dan is wearing the underwear:
Dan staunchly denies that he was sharing Phil’s underwear. His story is that he and Phil both own their own pair.
He repeats this claim three times:
1) In a (now-deleted) annotation:
I would just like to make clear xD
that I -am not- wearing Phil’s underwear! o_o lmao
we both own the same pair from Next
after arguing over who should get to have them
we both bought them.
NOW STOP BEING CREEPERS. =p
2) In a (now-deleted) response to a comment on the video:
Comment: “i’d just like to point out that not only is dan wearing phil’s t-shirt he is also wearing his boxers :3”
Dan: no actually paul griffiths sent us both that t-shirt and we both bought those boxers =p you creepers!
[The t-shirt he is referring to is the orange Babycakes t-shirt.]
And 3) In a vyou answer from July 6, 2011:
Question: I've noticed you and Phil often wear the same clothes...explain yourself!
Dan’s response: No… pfft, “often” — what do you mean often? ...Okay, in that one video, I have the SAME pair of underwear as Phil; we both walked into Next and saw a pair of Sonic underwear and we had an argument over who should buy it, so… we both own the same pair of underwear. And for that one video, I borrowed his Babycakes t-shirt because everything I own is black and I wanted to not look boring ...“Often”? Really? [laughs] Creepers.
[The “one video” he is referring to is obviously the “British Pancakes” video. Note how his story about the t-shirt contradicts the one from his comment on the video]
In a vyou from January 31, 2012, he also sticks to the “two pairs of underwear” story, this time saying the Phil threw his pair away because it ended up being too small:
Question: Have you and Phil ever got your sonic underwear mixed up?
Dan’s response: Heh, no, because Phil actually bought, like, a size too small, so, that kept the confusion from being a continued thing because he threw his away because they didn’t fit.
[It is worth noting that Phil had owned the underwear for at least ten months when Dan said “we both own the same pair of underwear” — present tense, implying that they are both still in possession of their own pair. And in this vyou answer, Dan doesn’t say they shrank, but that Phil “bought a size too small.” If Phil truly “bought a size too small,” wouldn’t he have noticed right away? Why would he have kept them for more than ten months before “throwing them away because they didn’t fit”?]
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QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS:
Q: Did Phil buy his pair of Sonic underwear while he was on holiday in Florida?
A: Not necessarily. Many people take the “Swine Flu” video as evidence that Phil bought his underwear in Florida, which would directly contradict Dan’s claim that “we both walked into Next and saw a pair of Sonic underwear and we had an argument over who should buy it…” HOWEVER, if you look at the quote above (“I got some really cool boxer shorts, which I wanted to show you”), you’ll notice that Phil never actually says that he got the underwear IN FLORIDA. He just says he got them. It could be that he got them in the UK in Next, like Dan said, and then brought them to Florida, and decided to include them in his video.
Q: Were the underwear actually available in Next stores?
A: It would seem so. This website about Sonic Gear includes a photo of the underwear and says, “This is a boxer/breif style underwear which can be found at NEXT stores in the UK area. It's done in Japanese style, with classic stock art, and Sonic's name written in Japanese beside it. The background is a loud mix of red and green, with the hot pink text and blue Sonic mixed in. The waistband (for whatever reason) says "Super Sonic" though actual Super Sonic is no where to be found. Loud though it may be, it is fantastic to see modern underwear in reasonable sizes with Sonic on it! A great item to collect.”
Dan’s repeated references to Next (in his vyou and in the annotation) seem like evidence that Next was truly involved somehow: Either Phil bought the underwear and Next and Dan knew that, or Phil bought the underwear somewhere else and he and Dan noticed that Next also sold them, or Dan is telling the truth and he and Phil both bought a pair at Next.
It seems odd that Phil would buy the underwear in Florida and Dan would magically know to say they bought them at Next.
Q: Is the pancake video the only time Dan has ever worn the boxers on camera?
A: No, they have appeared in on at least two other occasions:
1) In Phil’s video “I DRANK EGGNOG” from November 2, 2011. At 1:11:
2) In Dan’s video “Truth or Dare 3” from August 5, 2011. At 3:55ish, Dan isn’t actually wearing the underwear, but Sonic underwear can be seen on the bathroom counter when Dan does the mentos & coke thing under his shirt.
Behind them is a black pair of Calvin Klein underwear, idk if that's relevant.
Q: Has Phil ever worn the boxers on camera?
A: Not to my knowledge. (Note: if Dan is telling the truth, Phil’s own pair were discarded sometime between July 6, 2011 and January 31, 2012.)
Q: Is there any actual evidence that Dan is lying?
A: Yes and no. It is impossible to prove that Dan and Phil did not at one point both own an identical pair of Sonic underwear. However, Dan frequently linked his comments about the underwear with explanations for why he is also wearing Phil’s orange Babycakes shirt in the pancake video. His comments about the Babycakes shirt are contradictory and could be taken as hints that he’s making things up about the underwear as well. (He talks about the underwear and the shirt in the same sentence, and if he was lying about the shirts, then maybe he was lying about the underwear).
Q: Is this the only example of boxers that Dan and Phil have (possibly) shared?
A: NO.
Which brings us to the blue musical note boxers….
Neither Dan nor Phil has ever addressed this pair of boxers (except perhaps implicitly when Phil privated a video). This case is generally agreed on as an unambiguous, indisputable example of them sharing underwear, or at least of Dan wearing underwear that used to belong to Phil.
Phil showed these boxers on camera in a now-privated video called “I found a slinky.” It was published on February 1, 2009, eight months before he met Dan in real life (so no chance of them going into a store together and both buying a pair, and no chance of Dan leaving his own underwear at Phil’s house).
Q: The “I found a slinky” video is now privated. Did Phil private it because of the underwear?
A: Possibly, but it is worth mentioning that this video also contained a few references to Charlieskies and the “Pabloislove” channel, so would have arguably had reason to private it even apart from the underwear.
Screenshot of Phil showing the music note boxers:
Dan can be seen wearing these underwear in at least two later videos:
1) Dan’s video “Inappropriate Winking” from September 26, 2011(at 1:55):
2) Phil’s video “How to make Christmas cookies!” from Dec 22, 2011:
To sum it up:
Yes, they have shared at least one pair of underwear, the pair with music notes. They’ve probably shared two pairs (Dan denies that they ever shared the Sonic underwear, but although Dan’s denial cannot be disproven, there is reason to doubt it).
Coming up next, a post about them sharing clothes in general.....