IDB Phandom Watch Fest - Phanniversary Edition!

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Hey everyone!
This is our third IDB Phandom Watch Fest - Phanniversary Edition!

What is this all about?
The purpose of this project is to 1 - give Dan and Phil more views, because they deserve it, and 2 - celebrate the fact that it's been 9 years since the boys first met in real life, watch their videos, share our thoughts and have fun!

We are going to "meet up" here on the forum on Sunday, October 21st at one of the times listed (or any other time during the day!), play the videos together one after another, and then come back here to chat about them!
- Want to chat with us here? Register on the forum! Click meee!
- Don't feel like chatting? No problem! You can just read the discussion on this forum without registering.
- Not a fan of forums? Join in on the chat on either tumblr or twitter using the hashtag #PhandomWatch

Schedule: (handy timezone converter for you: http://www.timebie.com/timelocal/universal.php)
First group - start the video at 1:00 PM UTC/2:00 PM BST
Second group - start the video at 7:00 PM UTC/8:00 PM BST
The times don't suit you? Watch the videos today and come chat at any hour!

Videos:
Discuss the differences, make timestamps or notes, list what you like or don't like - just chat! :)
Watch them one after another - you don't need to wait!
- First video: A Day in the Life of Phil and Dan! aka first DITL
- Second video: A Week in the Life of Dan and Phil! aka latest DITL

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If you want to tweet while watching, use the hashtag #PhandomWatch or just chat with us here! Don't be shy, we don't bite! <3

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Post here or visit our tumblr or twitter! And most importantly, have fun watching!!
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It's a little early but I just thought I'd say hi if anyone's here already! :D I haven't seen A Day In The Life of Phil and Dan in a long time.
I miss Dan Howell's stupid face.
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Hi everyone!! I suspect this round will have less people than the evening one, but let's make the most of it!
If any of you needs help registering to come chat with us here, let me know on tumblr/twitter!

Watch the videos one after another and either chat here, take notes and post them afterwards, or use the hashtag #PhandomWatch on your preferred social media!

First video: A Day in the Life of Phil and Dan
Second video: A Week in the Life of Dan and Phil

Any questions? Hit me up here or on tumblr/twitter!
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I just love the fact that Dan stirred both his and Phil’s drink at Starbucks. It warms my heart (especially given the reputation of the 2012 era)
The video definitely still holds up
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If you haven't yet, start the second video! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQOCFA9HI2g
thestigdrivesamini wrote: Sun Oct 21, 2018 1:27 pm I just love the fact that Dan stirred both his and Phil’s drink at Starbucks. It warms my heart (especially given the reputation of the 2012 era)
The video definitely still holds up
It does hold up, but what a contrast from 2018 wow.
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There were a few cringey moments but mostly it was pretty cute. I still love the conversation about the massive box of shreddies :love2:

I'm wonder which friends cancelled on them?
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I just started the second video and paused it because Phil looks so tired! Knowing what we do now about Dan's mental health at the time leading up to tour it makes sense but damn, he looks exhausted.
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CapriciousCrab wrote: Sun Oct 21, 2018 1:35 pm I just started the second video and paused it because Phil looks so tired! Knowing what we do now about Dan's mental health at the time leading up to tour it makes sense but damn, he looks exhausted.
They both look really tired at some points. You can't really tell in this video that Dan was in a bad place mentally, but I remember noticing it in other ways back then.

I'm done watching, anyone else? Share your thoughts! <3

Here are some questions for you all to consider if you like!!
1. Which video was your favourite out of the two?
2. Was there anything you disliked about the 2012 video? What did you like better about it?
3. What's your favourite DITL in general and why?
4. Do you often go back and re-watch their old videos from 2010-2013? What do you think of their humor back then?
5. Why do you think the 2018 DITL has a relatively low viewcount (1.2 mil since April)?
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I just want to start this off by saying that I think these two videos were a good comparison for early dnp and current dnp. Manchester was a little awkward and some awful "jokes." They really have grown so much and it's nice to see the deppy we have now. Like in the first one they were talking about how purple might be too girly for a phone case and then in the witl dan steps out in a romper and it's just like dan being who he is while still needing that slight reassurance from phil that he does indeed look good. They have grown so much, not only with us but with each other. They know how to communicate better and offer that validity if the other one needs it. And @CapriciousCrab I just saw what you posted and I forgot that march was indeed a hard month from them. Luckily they got through it.
DITL
0:38 no ditl is complete without a dan in bed scene
0:58 oh no the worst shirt to exist
1:32 i remember when i first joined the phandom every compilation had dan calling them a family, ah memories
2:28 these boys are so awkward
3:21 thank god they have grown so much, i forgot how many awful “jokes” they made
4:03 THANK GOD THEY HAVE GROWN AND REALIZED THEY HAVE SAID STUPID SHIT
4:42 I don’t know why but when I first saw this thought they were saying that the egg was 70 pounds in weight not cost, I now realize my mistake
5:05 ah the iconic drink, phannies everywhere found quaking
5:15 I’m just realizing that dan changed from what we first saw him in, the black polo
5:23 Oh Phil :( I’m so glad that you no longer think that way, also what does fuchsia mean? ah dumb boys
6:19 Dan has many awkward stories featuring charlie
7:28 I really never remembered this many awkward “jokes” in this
8:12 phil’s face here was also featured in so many compilations
9:27 ok this moments cute, phil in his own little world
14:00 bubble bobble!
WITL
0:03 ah they look so different
0:57 compared to what they said in that ditl i will gladly take this pear joke
1:46-1:55 phil on yoga featuring a scared dan who also is kind of into it? you do you boo
2:27 Phil deserves all the beheaded roses
3:18 dnp isolating themselves from everyone to eat lunch
3:56 I’m just noticing that phil had a kind of fringe/quiff thing going on; now he has it so high
4:38 I would see it
4:46 Obviously dan liked calling phil’s plants crispy dudes so much they put it into every ii show
5:07 a much much better dan in bed scene, this time at night
5:20 I feel like we may not have gotten all that stuff in ii but we sure did get it out of that mukbang
7:38 I didn’t see the show but was tide pods ever in the show
7:58-8:08 Ik the bed scene was lots of peoples faves but the fortnite scene is my absolute fave
8:49 that was truly a look from phil
9:41 dan defintly was gong to punch phil in the dick
10:24 ok maybe just maybe phil getting his haircut in the moon room might be my favorite; for openers alone
12:32 dan being a little bit afraid of wearing a romper in public and needing phil to tell him he looks nice :(
14:19 dan being concerned about phil getting sunburnt :(
15:02 ah domestic arguments over flooring, give me more of that when you build a forever home
18:45 ending it with your takeaway dinner; a good
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Ablissa wrote: Sun Oct 21, 2018 1:43 pm
CapriciousCrab wrote: Sun Oct 21, 2018 1:35 pm I just started the second video and paused it because Phil looks so tired! Knowing what we do now about Dan's mental health at the time leading up to tour it makes sense but damn, he looks exhausted.
They both look really tired at some points. You can't really tell in this video that Dan was in a bad place mentally, but I remember noticing it in other ways back then.

I'm done watching, anyone else? Share your thoughts! <3

Oh yeah, they did look quite tired. I can’t remember... was this filmed before or after the second vday vid leak?
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here is my clusterfuck(sorry)

a day in the life of phil and dan

first they're too cute

0:58 : dan you cutie
1:10 dan hiding the cereal box it's amazing
2:08 ew alert, too much milk in the bowl
4:32 it's cursed
4:42 how, HOW, can a box of chocolate be £70! who would buy it? (apart from phil)
5:02 iconic
8:45 didn't this place officially call dan's order "the dan" or something ?
10:27 phil made this face SO. MANY. TIMES. before
i love how dan is not even aware that their friends cancelled on them ?
11:19-11:48: i don't know why but dan looks so sweet so cute so soft ?
12:42 full gryffindor here (it's a joke!)
wow they're so young

a week in the life blablbla

THEIR RÉAL FACES i missed then, two actual cuties

god i remember when this came out
they were so excited i'm emotional

1:42 phil lester king of yoga
1:53 i still don't understand why dan said that about pornography :shrug:
2:43 i relate phil, we are the same
3:15 im back in france so i miss quavers :( if someone wants to send me some
3:18 YES BEST TV SHOW
4:03 please this is barely ripped at all
4:10 i'm sorry but i hated the white stripe
4:19 wow i'm so very gay
4:30 very gay expect for dan in this position, he looks like an actual king model
4:33 hello nips!
~5-6 i could listen to dan talking like this for hours
7:13 so much deception
7:43 YES DAN I DONT CARE YOU MAKE MISTAKE BUT KEEP SPEAKING FRENCH
7:51 cutest man alive
7:59 i hate their living room i have no idea of how everything is set, im so confused
8:31 shut up dan
13:16 my definition of the apocalypse
15::08 glitter black was the best choice
15:30 dan has something with feet..
15:44 come on phil look at my crotch
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Oh boy. I do like all of their DITL videos, but some of the humor from 2012 just doesn't hold up. What a huge difference, how much they changed, how much they grew. It's amazing really. My most re-watched DITLs are Japan and Christmas, so it's been a while since Manchester, and I have to say I kind of forgot that there was a bunch of cringy things in that video.
Disclaimer: I know that their humor was relevant to the times. I'm happy that their corner of the world has changed and they changed with it.

DITL
The humor, as I mentioned, doesn't hold up for me in a few moments but there were still many cute scenes. I forgot how little it took for us to be satisfied as a fandom - some of the moments from this video got talked about a lot ("family", sharing the twinkie, etc, things we wouldn't bat an eyelash at now)
Their hair is... well... I'm just happy with what we have now. (Phil's hair in 2012 was still better than 2016)
0:08 Phil I'm sorry but I don't believe that you just woke up
0:35 Yes Dan totally just woke up with his hair perfectly straightened
0:59 he does look cute and sleepy though
1:11 such fetuses
1:20 I agree, I always do just one trip even if it means carrying 50 bags at once.
1:30 their voices are so different omg
2:55 I forgot how different the fanbase was in 2012... or maybe I just blissfully blanked it. Those comments... no, nevermind, that's still the youtube comment section. or instagram.
3:20 such a nice view from their window :shock:
4:04 Dan's humor has improved tremendously over the years...
4:22 that is legit scary, I would never go there by myself
4:30 the Manchester Eye is in sight, and all the demons are crying
4:53 is that really all you get for mother's day in the uk?
1 MINUTE AD. GET THAT :money: BOIS
5:24 such character development, that iphone cover conversation always bothered me
5:46 they're trapped like the sims
6:45 all the smut i've written in my life makes my thoughts go in the wrong direction when dan makes sounds like that
7:16 "i'm gonna get pezzed off my tits"
7:30 'your mum' jokes never die
8:55 controversial opinion – Phil's hair in 2012 is better than 2016
9:25 ish – Phil's in his own little world again and I'm nostalgic
9:55 they already want dogs
10:10 god. I'm cringing at Dan's "perfect for putting in strippers" comment. so hard.
10:45 Phil is me. I can never go into a store without buying something (unless it's like, a store that sells only expensive shit, in which case I don't go in at all)
11:15 can you believe it's only been 6 years since this video?
12:01 "i've got a lot of cream in my mouth"
12:11 i remember us freaking out that dan took a bite from the same end as phil
12:23 i've never had a twinkie but it looks kinda gross
12:43 dan pull up your pants bby
13:59 phil is still better than me at the piano and dan is freaking amazing?
14:37 "i will see you guys tomorrow"??? what sorcery is this
14:46 awwww lion
14:53 this was a truly different world
WITL
After the mukbang, I watched this video wary of Dan's mental state, but he didn't let it show too much. They were definitely very fit at that time, though, and Phil mentioned doing yoga with Dan.
Most of all, they seem far more relaxed together, and the video was more about them than the things they were doing - strangely enough, as it was a tour spon.
Definitely prefer this to the Manchester vid. And they look SO GOOD.
0:04 SUCH A MAJOR IMPROVEMENT
0:17 Phil's quiff is still young and a bit fringy
0:53 dan i don't think cats photosyntesize
1:20 i can't get over how good they look now
1:39 "I've already done enough yoga with you"
1:51 "this is an exercise of my will to live"
2:25 I love Dan's hair this fluffy
2:39 I miss the tour. kinda...
4:01 I like the ripped jeans. obviously.
4:20 more Phil chest jokes. meanwhile, Dan looks really skinny
5:01 this ditl is so much more domestic than the previous one.
5:11 the moon room. messy. dan is on his side of the bed. <3
6:04 I want them to do a DITL wearing onesies... like cute ones, not this plastic thing
6:31 this whole segment is so cute. they're shooting each other and giggling
6:54 they really have a thing for muscular chests, don't they?
7:34 did people actually eat tide pods...?
7:45 dan speaking french reminds me of phil saying he eats small children... probably one of the only things i know in french
7:50 "be honest with us phil... is this your fursona?"
8:31 "finally you'll realize how annoying you are" and the softest "shut up"
8:54 cast your votes. did it really zap them?
9:44 BABUSE IS REAL (this is so cute i'm giggling)
11:14 what big screen? i don't know her. in poland we had no set and no wheel, just a drawing by dan. :(
11:41 phil says it like it is, hexagons are cool. dan is trying to be deep and fails
12:07 it can't be a dnp video without some quality #spon
12:30 that romper is indeed a bold choice... i'm still not sure... but mostly yes? i love how confident he is these days. he looks good and he knows it.
12:59 "a sad mail-dan"
13:07 dan often says he doesn't care about temperature in other places lol
13:35 i love that they're just whining about the wasp and no one does anything. come on guys in the background, laugh pls?
14:01 "weird finger"
14:28 I can't believe Dan dropped his phone from that high up and it survived? don't iphones break if you touch them with a feather?
15:08 I liked glitter black, glitter red is a big nono
15:28 i've seen more of dan's feet than i needed to in this month
15:54 someone write that enemies to lovers stuck in a lift fic please
16:07 dan casually has a hand down his jeans.
17:24 I agree with dan, these glasses are not good for phil
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Ablissa wrote: Sun Oct 21, 2018 1:43 pm
Here are some questions for you all to consider if you like!!
1. Which video was your favourite out of the two?
WITL, hands down.

2. Was there anything you disliked about the 2012 video?What did you like better about it?
The questionable comments are uncomfortable to hear: dan saying he's black, the afro, rapist jokes, and the toxic masculinity in general. But they were young and have grown up and matured so I cant hold it against them. Just makes it kind of cringey to watch now.

3. What's your favourite DITL in general and why? Festive DITL! It's just soft and domestic and :love2:

4. Do you often go back and re-watch their old videos from 2010-2013? What do you think of their humor back then? I do not. In fact, I don't think I've seen much of their content from that time period.

5. Why do you think the 2018 DITL has a relatively low viewcount (1.2 mil since April)?
I think it's because once tour started there were so many things to focus on: insta stories, show reviews etc. People just got caught up in following their daily adventures.
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Alright, first of all, timestamps.

DITL

00.14 - Their first ditl was called A Day in the Life of Phil and Dan. For some reason it looks wrong.
00.28 - 'Let's go see if Dan's awake' and my eyes are already rolling. Honestly, I never understood why they had to do the whole waking up thing in the first place, so unnecessary :shrug:
00.59 - Dan with the iconic (or cursed? who knows) 'Cold beer and hot women' tshirt
01.26 - They're showing their groceries and I really need them to do another ditl where they buy stuff. That's the domestic content I think we all deserve
01.35 - Phil, Capita£ester since 2012, who buys 1kg of cereal because it's cheaper (and rightfully so)
02.56 - 'I hope you're pleased Diane' makes me laugh everytime
03.16 - Phil is wearing a sock with cherries on it - the audacity
04.04 - I can't watch the whole fountain bit without thinking about them going back there in the GTPWTW video and now I'm emotional :happytears:
04.32 - The Manchester Eye - the audacity part 2
05.02 - Caramel macchiato - the audacity part 3
05.08 - I love how Dan is stirring PHIL's drink. Like, wow.
05.23 - 'We're trying to decide if this is a girly iphone cover or not' they both have changed SO SO much and I'm very glad about it.
08.12 - Phil's smile to Dan is sweet
09.26 - Again, why did they have to go back there in 2018 I AM GONNA CRY OKAY
09.49 - The dogbaiting was already going strong back then. I see how it is.
10.15 - Dan is talking about strippers in a way that makes me really uncomfortable
10.23 - They want us to know they do have other friends. I'm not sure when that stopped in favor of things like 'we don't have any friends' or 'we have a best friends club and it's just us'
10.34 - I need another video of them just casually making dinner okay, @ Phil if you're reading this I BEG YOU KING
12.09 - Dan does the Phil tongue thing when he laughs and I wonder if he's aware of that
13.58 - You can spot THE LIST :sherlock:

WITL

00.03 - The first DITL without a wake up scene. WE DID IT KIDS. :cheer:
01.53 - 'This is literally pornography' ok i feel like Phil could just stand up doing nothing and Dan would still say that
02.26 - Dan gives Phil flowers. The fact they're beheaded is completely irrelevant, okay. It's the thought that counts and I am easily pleased.
03.18 - They're having lunch by themselves while watching a tv show. That's just so them and I love it
05.08 - The whole bedroom thing at 1am aka when my brain had a breakdown when I first watched it because.. c'mon. Like... c'mon. How can anyone watch that and not... GET IT. C'mon. Please. Love yourself.
06.12 - Phil covers his crotch and Dan covers his face and it's obvious what they think it's their best feature that needs to be protected
07.01 - Not to be a dannie but Dan looks very pretty
07.44 - Phil is eating a banana and Dan thinks it's an important part to film and who am I to disagree
07.49 - Phil is playing Fortnite and Dan is just there, watching him play and it reminds me of Phil's story where he's just there laughing at Dan playing Skyrim. Ugh why are they so cute i am so UPSET I AM GONNA PUNCH THINGS
08.31 - 'I can hear myself' 'Finally you'll realize how annoying you are' :love2: 'Shut up' :love2:
09.32 - THE WHOLE ZAPPING BIT IS MY FAVE. Especially when Phil zaps Dan, he's such a little shit and I love it.
10.24 - Phil having a haircut (in the moon room) and Dan being supportive 'I have a wonderful forehead and the world needs to see it' PLEASE
12.34 - Dan looks so good in the romper, I want him to wear it again
13.03 - Not to be a phillie but Phil looks very hot
15.34- They're sitting very close. Like. Is it necessary? No. Do I love it? Absolutely.
16.35 - 'Goodbye Phil' 'Noo' I'm leaving without you' 'Nooo' :love2:
18.45 - They're there eating takeway food and watching Riverdale and that's peak domesticity and it makes me happy.


1. Which video was your favourite out of the two?
I definitely love the WITL video more because to me 2018dnp>>>> everything else and that's a video full of moments that wouldn't ever made the cut in previous years

2. Was there anything you disliked about the 2012 video? What did you like better about it?
Better? Nothing. You can just sensethat they were not being 100% genuine in the 2012 vid and that they were trying too hard sometimes (ie Dan talking about strippers or the constant 'we do have other friends' thing). Another problem i have with the video is Dan. Like, I don't even know why, but Dan in 2012-2013 really annoys me to the point I've never watched a dinof video that he made during those years because I just know I couldn't go through it. I don't know what exactly annoys me so much, but I can't help it - maybe because knowing how he is now makes me not like his younger version since they're so different? Yeah, that must be it actually.

3. What's your favourite DITL in general and why?
FESTIVE DITL. There's no competition, I'm sorry. The festive vibes, Dnp just being cute and domestic.. that's all I need to be happy.

4. Do you often go back and re-watch their old videos from 2010-2013? What do you think of their humor back then?
I think the only old videos I rewatch are the baking ones. I'm just not too fond of their humor or the way they were in general. Like, I genuinely believe I wouldn't have subscribed to them If I had discovered their channels back then.

5. Why do you think the 2018 DITL has a relatively low viewcount (1.2 mil since April)?
I don't know, actually. I remember people were all over it when it came out so I don't really get it and who knows how YT works and at this point I'm too afraid to ask. A theory maybe is that it came out right after the GTPWTW video and perhaps people needed more time to recover from it, lmao.

Anyway, watching these videos back to back was an experience that enlighted so well all the progress they have made through the years and I'm so happy that they are now lowering their barriers with their audience, it's just nice to see. I'm so sad we won't get another ditl this year - I feel like after the mukbang video their level of comfort on camera would be even more visible now and I just need another ditl okay, please.
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1. Which video was your favourite out of the two?
Week in the Life hands down (though I think I prefer Giving the People What they Want) The Manchester DITL is such a mixed bag for me.

2. Was there anything you disliked about the 2012 video? What did you like better about it?
A lot. I feel like I was cringing every 10 seconds (sometimes more frequently). Maybe I’m too PC and easily offended but ugh, I would not have followed them back then. On the plus side it shows how far both of them have come (it’s mostly Dan’s comments that bothered me then, but Phil definitely had some issues with toxic masculinity). Of course I am still a sucker for the nostalgia and that it’s Manchester. Favorite moments: “We’re not a family of ten Phil”, “You need to stop doing that” (Dan about Phil buying something at a store out of guilt/awkwardness), the Twinkie part, caramel macchiatos, Phil in his own little world, editing and piano playing in Dan’s night time mode room.

3. What's your favourite DITL in general and why?
Festive because it’s so warm and cozy and you can tell the are in a good place in their life. (starting on the book and tour) This is followed closely by Japan and then Australia.

4. Do you often go back and re-watch their old videos from 2010-2013? What do you think of their humor back then?
Less and less now. Well, no I did have a bit of a 2009-2011 binge last week (not all of them mind, just the ones on my playlist, but even those ones have cringe moments.) Like I said I don’t think I would have watched them back then. I came in at the start of the post baking universe and I’m very grateful for the perspective.

I’m too lazy to do timestamps this morning. But I enjoy all of yours. :love2:
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Here I am only slightly late with my ramble nonsensical thoughts!

One thing that stood out to me was how much more Northen Phil sounds in DITL Manchester than he does now. I did sociolinguistics as part of my A Levels and could do a whole case study on the way Phil’s accent has moved around over the years. I find it fascinating! (Interestingly, although I don’t see people talk about it as much, Dan’s accent has moved north since the early days too :))
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Another difference between the two videos that is so striking to me is the level of comfort between them while they're filming.

DITL had a lot more forced interactions and very careful distances between them. Now they're all tucked up in each others space, making jokes about leaving the other. It's just nice to see how they're more at ease with themselves and each other. :love2:
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Another question (or a few :D) I just thought of, prompted by @CapriciousCrab's post:
What do you think of their dynamic back in 2012? Were they equals? Were they on the same page? How much was 'for the camera', how much was just them and their comfort with one another?

Would love to hear your thoughts on that! Love your timestamps and all your posts as well, I will respond to them once we're done with this set of questions <3
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I love Week in the Life a lot, my fave parts are the ones in the moon room- Dan working and Phil getting his hair cut, the scene talking about blossoms, and Dan modelling the sad mailman romper (I am team romper btw). I thought I'd do timestamps for Manchester, cause I don't remember it well.

timestamps for day in the life of phil and dan (in manchester)

I do not believe that's where Dan woke up lol.
1:19 "That's an achievement, they should hire you out as a packhorse" savagery by Phil
Dan is so tan and Phil is so pale!
1:35 "We're not a family of ten Phil"
4:09 oh no the fountain why is it making my heart feel things it's just a fountain.
4:20 I even feel nostalgic about the tunnel den thing.
Obligatory I'm from Manchester and so this is like even more nostalgia-ridden for me than for other ppl, though I haven't been to most the places in the vid.
4:32 the eye :japhan:
5:06 dan stirring both the drinks *is* cute, as is his little song
5:15 instantly followed by dan doing the gay sit (some things never change) and appaz he still used the word "bitch" a lot back then too.
5:54 "Buy these shoes...look like an alien"
6:16 OH HAHA another awkward charlieissocoollike moment, poor Dan.
7:26 "sometimes i wish i was a girl" "that's a bit weird, dan" i don't mind this stuff because it's a product of the time, but i love that we've progressed.
9:25 DIDN'T NEED MY HEART ANYWAY then the giggle "don't trip" :( :( :(
9:45 home sweet home
10:41 awkward phil in the shop and then dan calling him out and phil looking guilty lol
11:38 the whole twinkie scene is cute including them biting from the same place & Dan doing the Phil-tongue laugh.
P: What would you rate it out of a hundred?
D: ...Four.
Also D: the cream tastes like corpses. Now this is just making me miss Dan's turns of phrase over on danisnotonfire.
12:41 karate chopping a kinder egg
14:09 Thumbnail scene- I just want to comment at this juncture that I love Dan's bear sweater.
14:40 Lion :) :lion:
I miss Dan Howell's stupid face.
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1. Which video was your favourite out of the two?
definitely the week in the life. to me they are "my dan and phil", the dan and phil i know and love. also they're just funnier in the second video! and the whole content is more enjoyable


2. Was there anything you disliked about the 2012 video? What did you like better about it?
oh man.... well there was the humour from "back then", what a terrible time.
and all this talk about femininity, the phone case and all, first, unthinkable that today dnp, who are casually being queer all the time, could have once said that on camera (but it goes with "that time", they're not-confident foetuses) and two, idk it's just sad to me.
what did i also dislike ? well it was the first dilt so we see that they don't really know where it's going
and should i even mention the "oh we just woke up thing" ?
the only thing i preferred is that it's very focused on them being domestic (while in week in the life, it's mostly tour stuff and sometimes it's a bit much for me)


3. What's your favourite DITL in general and why?
the festive one! they're so happy, it's the festive season, it's like a warm hug, it's perfect (i could actually cry thinking about it so i'm gonna stop)


4. Do you often go back and re-watch their old videos from 2010-2013? What do you think of their humor back then?
their humour was terrible. to me. and that's one of the reason i have a hard time rewatching their old vids, especially dan. i feel like i'm alone in this but generally dinofs are the videos i like the least, especially before 2014. i love dan but i don't know, the pre2014 dinofs don't make me laugh and i have a general bad vibe from them?
i also find old videos phil video cringe sometimes but i mostly like them! like "the break-up" is amazing, i love it so much!
but i have no dinof from that time that i love a lot.


5. Why do you think the 2018 DITL has a relatively low viewcount (1.2 mil since April)?
idk, i guess it's just because it's about tour and not everyone felt concerned, many people didn't go and weren't intestested?
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DITL
First of all, who are Phil and Dan? That's so weird. Phil pouting at the camera while putting his glasses on is so funny, this would be when duckface was a thing and I don't miss it. Phil is showing the view from his window and that's so strange to me now, they would never. Dan is adorable in bed (I'm sorry but he is). "Two trips is for pussies" wow okay, that paired with the Cold beer hot women t-shirt, who is this person? 2012 truly was a different time for all of us. "We're not a family of 10 Phil" sadly not. The shaking camera and zooming is really annoying, they've improved their vlogging quite a lot thankfully. Rapists, really? Was that necessary? And Dan making a joke about being black? This reminds me of why I don't like to watch old Dan videos, wow. And again, showing where they live very clearly, stupid. Mention of the eye, going to starbucks, caramel machiato, cute! Dan sitting the wrong way in the chair just makes me think of the meme that gays can't sit properly (and Dan still can't). God, Dan was really trying to be cool and edgy and the discussion of the manly purple phone case makes me cringe. "Sometimes I wish I was a girl" oh Dan, one day you'll be a bit less afraid of defying gender roles and own multiple sequined items. They're so bad at vlogging omg, stop covering the the mic. "Phil is in his own little world again" aaaw. Socially anxious Phil coming through with the Kinder egg instead of soy sauce. I've totally done the same thing. The twinkie bit is v cute. Phil playing the piano is also adorable.
I really don't miss the humor of 2012. It's easy to isolate this and say that Dan was awful, but honestly, this is just a representation of what (internet) humor was back then. The rape/rohypnol jokes, the fetus/placenta thing, talk about bitches and strippers - it was everywhere. I'm so glad that it has fallen out of style (and that I stopped hanging out with the people that still finds it funny).

WITL
Right off the bat, Dan is sitting weirdly on the sofa. Not much has changed there. Phil looks like a completely different person with the side swept hair and the hint of a beard. Both of them look very tired but it's understandable (please for the love of god I hope they get some rest now). I love Dan's long fluffy hair here, I wish would keep it like that. Yess Phil, model that jacket, you can see the difference in his confidence so clearly. Phil on the ball, Dan calling it pornography, it's all hilarious. Dan giving Phil flowers is so cute. Still talking about snacks a lot, that hasn't changed. They are so much better at vlogging and editing. "A crispy little dude" little did we know what a big part that sentence would have in the show. Aaw Dan in bed, still adorable, but this time it's a much larger bed with a clear space for another person. I might weep. Dan gives a good little summary of the show here. They are very cute when they shoot each other (Dan will rather cover his face than his balls, I guess that says something). Dan is making a lot more death jokes now, that's for sure. "Finally you'll realize how annoying you are" Dan says in the most fond way possible. Dan complementing Phil's forehead and then playing with his hair is everything. Dan rocks the romper, see you don't have to conform to gender roles any more. Okay I take it back, there's still some very shaky camera work. Phil can't keep his eyes off Dan in the car and it's adorable.
The contrast of going from 2012 to this is pretty stark, just in things like how close they are sitting, all the images of naked male torsos and just the fact that Dan is holding the camera so much more. The old ditl was much more clearly a Phil video, while the witl is a Dan&Phil video. They are also so much more comfortable being in each others space, complementing each other and just being together on camera.

Wow this took way too long, I'm gonna read all your smart comments now.
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Ablissa wrote: Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:35 pm Another question (or a few :D) I just thought of, prompted by @CapriciousCrab's post:
What do you think of their dynamic back in 2012? Were they equals? Were they on the same page? How much was 'for the camera', how much was just them and their comfort with one another?

Would love to hear your thoughts on that! Love your timestamps and all your posts as well, I will respond to them once we're done with this set of questions <3
I think they were very determined to being perceived as friends and roommates and that was it. And I get it, but it's so weird going back to that dynamic now because they don't look the same people anymore. I've never agreed with people saying things like that in 2012 dnp hated each other or that they broke up or something because to me those two in 2012 clearly loved and liked each other, but the thing is - they didn't want us to see.
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glitterintheair wrote: Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:55 pm
Ablissa wrote: Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:35 pm Another question (or a few :D) I just thought of, prompted by @CapriciousCrab's post:
What do you think of their dynamic back in 2012? Were they equals? Were they on the same page? How much was 'for the camera', how much was just them and their comfort with one another?

Would love to hear your thoughts on that! Love your timestamps and all your posts as well, I will respond to them once we're done with this set of questions <3
I think they were very determined to being perceived as friends and roommates and that was it. And I get it, but it's so weird going back to that dynamic now because they don't look the same people anymore. I've never agreed with people saying things like that in 2012 dnp hated each other or that they broke up or something because to me those two in 2012 clearly loved and liked each other, but the thing is - they didn't want us to see.
Oh yes, the break up theory. Some people firmly stand by it to this day, but I am 100% with you. I know it was a difficult/challenging time for them, but I mean, look at them now. Clearly they went through it and came back stronger.
I believe that their attitude change was mostly for the camera, but also watching their new videos, I can't help but think how steady and comfortable they grew to be together. Six years is a long time and you can definitely tell the difference.

Once again I'm having flashbacks to people claiming Dan hates Phil :sideeye: And I'm reminded that there was a time when Dan wanted to be a cool lad youtuber, complete with douchebag shirt and weird jokes.

I definitely agree with @kavat though. It wasn't just Dan that had that attitude. Back in 2012, I was deep in a cave called World of Warcraft (in which I stayed until ~2014), and this type of "humor" was EVERYWHERE. Spoiler: it still is, in a lot of communities. I'm happy that the phandom grew up to be something far removed from this kind of thing.
However, @Ataraxia25, you're not alone in preferring Dan's newer content. I admit I re-watch Phil's older videos more often than Dan's, but I don't think Dan was some horrible person at all. He just didn't know better and followed what was popular back then (sad times)

(I'm not addressing everything to avoid writing an essay, but I will definitely do so later - someone please post so I don't have to doublepost :lol:) Love your posts everyone :love2:

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Ablissa wrote: Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:16 pm However, @Ataraxia25, you're not alone in preferring Dan's newer content. I admit I re-watch Phil's older videos more often than Dan's, but I don't think Dan was some horrible person at all. He just didn't know better and followed what was popular back then (sad times


no i agree, he definitely wasn't an horrible person at all. it was something back in the day and even i said some shit things when i was younger. and as you said, he wanted to be a cool lad youtuber and maybe it's the reason why there is a heavy atmosphere in his old videos, because he had some sort of mask on, does that make sense to anyone?
im just glad they both grew as persons and now they give us amazing content

on another subject: the breakup theory / dan hates phil, i wasn't there at the time so i don't have the full experience but i find it hard to believe that dan could hate phil. especially because it was at the same time as this video, the first ditl ? i don't know how can anyone think dan could hate phil, especially after watching the video! i know these people must have had some good reasons to believe. this at the time but i think it's very sad :(
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