Hey everyone!
This is our seventh IDB Phandom Watch Fest, and this time, it's MARK OF OXIN EDITION!!
To celebrate Phil Lester, who is the most beautiful person in the--um, sorry. To celebrate Dan and Phil Games and the fact that it's dead... No, wait, just...
WE'RE WATCHING MARK OF OXIN!!!
We're only using IDB this time - which means everyone will start their video in their own browser at one of the set times, and when done, we'll all come here to discuss.
Schedule: (handy time zone converter for you: http://www.timebie.com/timelocal/universal.php)
Sunday, December 30th
First group - start the video by yourself at 12:00 PM (noon) UTC
Second group - start the video by yourself at 7:00 PM UTC
The times don't suit you?
Watch the videos during Sunday and come chat at any hour!
Videos:
We will be marathoning the videos!
First video: 14 YEAR OLD PHIL’S GAME - Dan and Phil Play: The Mark Of Oxin!
Second video: THE BEST GAME EVER MADE - Dan and Phil Play: The Mark of Oxin #2 (END)
Discuss the differences, make timestamps or notes, list what you like or don't like - just chat!
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IDB Watch Fest #7 - Mark of Oxin Edition!
Hey everyone! We're starting in ~10 minutes!
Video links
First video
Second video
Start the first video on the hour! Remember to turn off adblock!
Timestamps are so, so welcome! This is the format that allows more IDB discussion and I'd love to see it.
Questions to consider:
Video links
First video
Second video
Start the first video on the hour! Remember to turn off adblock!
Timestamps are so, so welcome! This is the format that allows more IDB discussion and I'd love to see it.
Questions to consider:
I will post more questions after/during the showing, so you can just pick and choose.1. Favorite moment out of both the videos?
2. Which video was better in your opinion?
3. These videos are from 2017. Are Dan and Phil different in their newer gaming videos?
I fell a bit behind, so I'm halfway through the second video now and loving it Is anyone watching still?
Some more questions if you like -
Some more questions if you like -
1. Do you think they played this prior to filming, or this was 100% a fresh experience?
2. What are your thoughts on 14-year old Phil and his creativity?
Okay, I'm done watching now! (and this is my 5th post in a row lmao I feel awkward. I guess we didn't have many people watching this one, I hope to see more at the 7 PM showing)
This was pretty long for a single watch fest, but then again, it was great to rewatch these videos. I love them so so so much and I really wish they'd make a proper video game together, as it's clear they've both loved games from a very young age, and also both still love their RPGs. With their creativity, I feel like the game could be pretty damn amazing.
My favorite part of these two videos is definitely how much they are both into it, and Dan being so sweet about every little thing, making sure Phil knows just how great the game is. Dan truly appreciates Phil, and videos like this really make it shine. It also highlights how much they both grew up doing/enjoying similar things and have similar memories despite their age gap.
I made really messy, worthless and long timestamps or rather just... my reactions to stuff, I guess. Most of this won't make sense, but I'm putting it here just to encourage others to do the same. Timestamps are so fun (when I'm not the one doing them, since mine suck )!
And the second vid... (why does it have 800k less views. I hate that. these videos are so underappreciated)
This was pretty long for a single watch fest, but then again, it was great to rewatch these videos. I love them so so so much and I really wish they'd make a proper video game together, as it's clear they've both loved games from a very young age, and also both still love their RPGs. With their creativity, I feel like the game could be pretty damn amazing.
My favorite part of these two videos is definitely how much they are both into it, and Dan being so sweet about every little thing, making sure Phil knows just how great the game is. Dan truly appreciates Phil, and videos like this really make it shine. It also highlights how much they both grew up doing/enjoying similar things and have similar memories despite their age gap.
I made really messy, worthless and long timestamps or rather just... my reactions to stuff, I guess. Most of this won't make sense, but I'm putting it here just to encourage others to do the same. Timestamps are so fun (when I'm not the one doing them, since mine suck )!
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Yay let's go, part 1!
Wow, that took over an hour to get through, let's jump straight in to the next one.
1. Favorite moment out of both the videos?
Every time Dan compliments 14 year old Phil. The music choices are great, amazing plot twist and of course having a threesome with the angel and her boyfriend. Brilliant all the way through.
2. Which video was better in your opinion?
I don't feel like I need to compare them, they really are just part 1 and part 2. They ended part 1 in a great place with the plot twist that was just as dramatic as the ending, both are soft and calm and filled with compliments to Phil. Part 2 has some boring mazes but otherwise they are pretty similar to me.
3. These videos are from 2017. Are Dan and Phil different in their newer gaming videos?
They feel very chill and calm in these which I feel is more thanks to how the game is layed out than anything else. It's really just 1.5h of Dan pouring compliments and affection over Phil which I'm so here for. I think it's a bit more low energy than other videos from that time but I love it.
4. Do you think they played this prior to filming, or this was 100% a fresh experience?
I feel like Phil had a look through it before he let Dan play it, because he gave some tips that at least I would have forgotten 15+ years later. But it's fine, that probably made the video better.
1. Favorite moment out of both the videos?
Every time Dan compliments 14 year old Phil. The music choices are great, amazing plot twist and of course having a threesome with the angel and her boyfriend. Brilliant all the way through.
2. Which video was better in your opinion?
I don't feel like I need to compare them, they really are just part 1 and part 2. They ended part 1 in a great place with the plot twist that was just as dramatic as the ending, both are soft and calm and filled with compliments to Phil. Part 2 has some boring mazes but otherwise they are pretty similar to me.
3. These videos are from 2017. Are Dan and Phil different in their newer gaming videos?
They feel very chill and calm in these which I feel is more thanks to how the game is layed out than anything else. It's really just 1.5h of Dan pouring compliments and affection over Phil which I'm so here for. I think it's a bit more low energy than other videos from that time but I love it.
4. Do you think they played this prior to filming, or this was 100% a fresh experience?
I feel like Phil had a look through it before he let Dan play it, because he gave some tips that at least I would have forgotten 15+ years later. But it's fine, that probably made the video better.
Sorry I'm late. This starts at 6am my time. But I've watched them and I'm here to answer questions
1. My favorite moment in the first one is the part where right after Alex dies dan looks genuinely shocked and then says, "you were 14 when you made this?" in a super amazed voice. Like this video has so many proud dan moments but this one always makes me smile.
The second video; my favorite moment has to be the threesome and phil's emphasis that it was an angel AND her boyfriend. After this part the first time I had so many questions. Like 14 year old Phil made this for his friends to play and yet he still didn't make M/F/F but M/M/F and I just really loved that. Also I recognize that it's kind of weird to praise a 14 year old kid for putting a threesome in a game but it was such a telling moment.
2. The first video will always be the best. Yes dan is proud of him in both videos but the first one he is super proud and keeps throwing phil these ultra fond glances and it makes me
3. I don't really think that their that different in newer gaming videos. Especially with the last month of gaming videos to compare, they are still super fond of each other. I really can't imagine them kicking it up even more.
1. I think this was definitely dan's first time but I think when Phil found it he played through just to make sure the game had an actual ending and just to see if it would actually work. Dan's reactions seemed very true but it wasn't his first time playing bubble bobble but they made it seem like it was and his reactions seemed real then too so who really knows
2. I love Phil so very much and I, like Dan, was super amazed when this video came out. I know so many people say Phil is so creative and I agree, I just wish I saw it more to the degree of this video. He has little bursts of it like with his merch or figuring out how to do some of those spon deals for the gaming channel but I wish we saw it on a bigger scale or even just in his videos again.
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3. These videos are from 2017. Are Dan and Phil different in their newer gaming videos?
I don't think they're markedly different from a casual viewing perspective but it did hit me while I was watching that I think they would have handled some things a lot differently if this video came out now. I have a feeling the m/m/f threesome would have gotten different treatment; I mean it's not like they shied away from it in this video but also Phil was not yet at the point of casually consistently talking about men. I think Dan might have made more of a big deal of the fact that it was two men and a woman - or even Phil might have himself - if this came out today.
I don't think they're markedly different from a casual viewing perspective but it did hit me while I was watching that I think they would have handled some things a lot differently if this video came out now. I have a feeling the m/m/f threesome would have gotten different treatment; I mean it's not like they shied away from it in this video but also Phil was not yet at the point of casually consistently talking about men. I think Dan might have made more of a big deal of the fact that it was two men and a woman - or even Phil might have himself - if this came out today.
Hey everyone, we're starting the second round on the hour (20 mins from now)! Love the responses so far, I will reply when the second round ends
Reminder of the questions (you can pick and choose, don't need to answer them all )
Reminder of the questions (you can pick and choose, don't need to answer them all )
1. Favorite moment out of both the videos?
2. Which video was better in your opinion? And if they're both equal, how high does this video rank for you on an overall list of favorite gaming vids?
3. These videos are from 2017. Are Dan and Phil different in their newer gaming videos?
4. Do you think they played this prior to filming, or this was 100% a fresh experience?
5. What are your thoughts on 14-year old Phil and his creativity?
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This was wonderful. I love those videos so much, they're some of my faves ever, so it was great to watch them again.
1. Favourite moment out of both the videos?
Part 1 - When they're having a little FF music nostalgia trip and go onto singing the next track they know is coming in sync. That shit is too cute god.
Part 2 - The threesome bit. I remember just dying when I first heard that and turning it back. Such a good moment.
Both - Just all the super fond, proud, and amazed moments Dan has for Phil. Makes my heart sing.
2. Which video was better in your opinion? And if they're both equal, how high does this video rank for you on an overall list of favourite gaming vids?
I'd say they're both pretty equal as a continuation of the other, but I have a softer spot for part two. I just think that Dan's even more fonder in that video somehow, and of course the threesome bit just makes it all for me. So good.
3. These videos are from 2017. Are Dan and Phil different in their newer gaming videos?
I remember thinking that those videos were more subdued than the other ones they were putting out, and I was delighted that they seemed to be more stripped back from their personas. I think that still holds up today. I think that if they did this now it would be about the same level of laid back comfort, maybe more. Like @alittledizzy said, I think the threesome moment would have been handled differently, more in tone with what they've been doing recently.
4. Do you think they played this prior to filming, or this was 100% a fresh experience?
Like everyone else has been saying, I believe Phil played through it to see if it works/if he actually finished it/if there was anything in it he didn't want to immortalize on the gaming channel. Just going off Dan's reactions, I think he was so genuine and definitely hadn't played it before. I love that, it really makes these videos even better for me tbh.
5. What are your thoughts on 14-year old Phil and his creativity?
I really love it! I think it's so wonderfully teenage, but also so endearing, and very cool and enjoyable. It does make me want to see--especially with what he have seen from him already--what adult Phil can do with that kind of creativity in that same kind of format.
Part 1 - When they're having a little FF music nostalgia trip and go onto singing the next track they know is coming in sync. That shit is too cute god.
Part 2 - The threesome bit. I remember just dying when I first heard that and turning it back. Such a good moment.
Both - Just all the super fond, proud, and amazed moments Dan has for Phil. Makes my heart sing.
2. Which video was better in your opinion? And if they're both equal, how high does this video rank for you on an overall list of favourite gaming vids?
I'd say they're both pretty equal as a continuation of the other, but I have a softer spot for part two. I just think that Dan's even more fonder in that video somehow, and of course the threesome bit just makes it all for me. So good.
3. These videos are from 2017. Are Dan and Phil different in their newer gaming videos?
I remember thinking that those videos were more subdued than the other ones they were putting out, and I was delighted that they seemed to be more stripped back from their personas. I think that still holds up today. I think that if they did this now it would be about the same level of laid back comfort, maybe more. Like @alittledizzy said, I think the threesome moment would have been handled differently, more in tone with what they've been doing recently.
4. Do you think they played this prior to filming, or this was 100% a fresh experience?
Like everyone else has been saying, I believe Phil played through it to see if it works/if he actually finished it/if there was anything in it he didn't want to immortalize on the gaming channel. Just going off Dan's reactions, I think he was so genuine and definitely hadn't played it before. I love that, it really makes these videos even better for me tbh.
5. What are your thoughts on 14-year old Phil and his creativity?
I really love it! I think it's so wonderfully teenage, but also so endearing, and very cool and enjoyable. It does make me want to see--especially with what he have seen from him already--what adult Phil can do with that kind of creativity in that same kind of format.
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I realize that I never answered the last question: What are your thoughts on 14-year old Phil and his creativity?
For one, like Dan said, I think it's so cool that he at that point had played so many games that he just knew how an rpg should work. There should be tutorials, training areas, make sure that you're high enough level to continue, what attacks work on what enemies etc. I never played those type of games as a kid so it's fascinating to watch how Dan just knows what to do and how the world works, just because he's played the same games as Phil has.
It's also interesting how 14 year old Phil knows to tell a story. He adds the plot twist in there to keep the player on their toes, there's secondary characters, there's the mystery of The Mark that's revealed at the end. I'm truly impressed, and would looove to see what he could up with if he tried to make a game like this today.
For one, like Dan said, I think it's so cool that he at that point had played so many games that he just knew how an rpg should work. There should be tutorials, training areas, make sure that you're high enough level to continue, what attacks work on what enemies etc. I never played those type of games as a kid so it's fascinating to watch how Dan just knows what to do and how the world works, just because he's played the same games as Phil has.
It's also interesting how 14 year old Phil knows to tell a story. He adds the plot twist in there to keep the player on their toes, there's secondary characters, there's the mystery of The Mark that's revealed at the end. I'm truly impressed, and would looove to see what he could up with if he tried to make a game like this today.
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woke up pretty late and this took me like over an hour to finish
timestamps:(1st video)
(2nd video)
1. Favorite moment out of both the videos?
i just love how overtly proud dan was while playing. for a 14 year old that had too much time during their summer break, phil did a pretty good job and i think dan realizes that. also the fact that they kept on nerding out over phils chosen background music reminds me of the fact that thats how they became friends in the first place.
3. These videos are from 2017. Are Dan and Phil different in their newer gaming videos?
probably more banter and reminiscing. dont get me wrong, they were pretty chill in this one but i felt like if they had filmed this in the great year of 2018, it wouldve been the same but more....um....dare i say, (whispers) gay.
4. Do you think they played this prior to filming, or this was 100% a fresh experience?
i mean, i definitely see some genuine reactions here. i think ive been in this fandom long enough to recognize their acting personas. so no, i dont think theyve played this before especially when phil himself was a bit surprised at some parts he didnt remember. (his reaction reminds me of when i read through my deviantart journal from 2009 so yeah, me thinks its genuine)
timestamps:(1st video)
i just love how overtly proud dan was while playing. for a 14 year old that had too much time during their summer break, phil did a pretty good job and i think dan realizes that. also the fact that they kept on nerding out over phils chosen background music reminds me of the fact that thats how they became friends in the first place.
3. These videos are from 2017. Are Dan and Phil different in their newer gaming videos?
probably more banter and reminiscing. dont get me wrong, they were pretty chill in this one but i felt like if they had filmed this in the great year of 2018, it wouldve been the same but more....um....dare i say, (whispers) gay.
4. Do you think they played this prior to filming, or this was 100% a fresh experience?
i mean, i definitely see some genuine reactions here. i think ive been in this fandom long enough to recognize their acting personas. so no, i dont think theyve played this before especially when phil himself was a bit surprised at some parts he didnt remember. (his reaction reminds me of when i read through my deviantart journal from 2009 so yeah, me thinks its genuine)
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Thanks for your replies everyone! This definitely isn't our most popular watch fest, but I organized it on very short notice. I hope we can have more people for the next one!
Also... the thing you said earlier about Phil's fringe... I agree. That's the only thing I can think of when I see 2015-2018 Phil hair.
Also, wow, 6 am?! That's so early!!! I will be making polls about watch fest times, I hope you will pitch in - I want to set these up at a time that suits most people
I'm just... still amazed at how much they have in common. What kinda money do you have to pay to find a soulmate like that? How many souls??
that pretty much sums up the whole video (and a lot of other videos). Whatever Phil says or creates is perfect in Dan's world. He may mock him, but these days he immediately follows it up with something sweet. What a good time to be in the fandom, really - 2017 was already a great year here.
Also... the thing you said earlier about Phil's fringe... I agree. That's the only thing I can think of when I see 2015-2018 Phil hair.
Haha you made me laugh with the last part I agree though, and it does make me think if it was a random choice or there was something more to it. Either way, it was nice. And I do wonder how his friends reacted too. I think it's really cute that he had friends who would come over and play his game! Do they keep in touch? Do we know? Probably not to both of those.hello9217 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 2:36 pm The second video; my favorite moment has to be the threesome and phil's emphasis that it was an angel AND her boyfriend. After this part the first time I had so many questions. Like 14 year old Phil made this for his friends to play and yet he still didn't make M/F/F but M/M/F and I just really loved that. Also I recognize that it's kind of weird to praise a 14 year old kid for putting a threesome in a game but it was such a telling moment.
Also, wow, 6 am?! That's so early!!! I will be making polls about watch fest times, I hope you will pitch in - I want to set these up at a time that suits most people
I actually haven't thought of that when watching, but I agree. What makes me happy is that we know they'd make more of a big deal about it, but it would all be in a positive way. I'm just feeling soft about them today.alittledizzy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 2:52 pm I have a feeling the m/m/f threesome would have gotten different treatment; I mean it's not like they shied away from it in this video but also Phil was not yet at the point of casually consistently talking about men.
I love your whole post (obviously), but I'm pulling this out because YES (@kavat - I agree as well!) I could totally see them making a more indie/quirky kind of game, a proper console or pc game, not just an app. They both have the creativity for it, and Phil has a lot of fun ideas. What's more, they both love games and clearly have a lifelong experience with them. It would be great if they gave that a shot... but the more excited I get at the prospect, the more I'm thinking it probably won't happen - but yeah, something more creative like that would be perfect for Phil.obsessivelymoody wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:01 pm 5. What are your thoughts on 14-year old Phil and his creativity?
I really love it! I think it's so wonderfully teenage, but also so endearing, and very cool and enjoyable. It does make me want to see--especially with what he have seen from him already--what adult Phil can do with that kind of creativity in that same kind of format.
This was literally what I kept thinking the whole time. They both love all the same games, Dan caught on to every bit of music, and their love of FF just has me feeling things. I'm glad that a certain song was not in this video because we all would have passed out (lmao they would never include that)lesterchuu wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:05 pm also the fact that they kept on nerding out over phils chosen background music reminds me of the fact that thats how they became friends in the first place.
I'm just... still amazed at how much they have in common. What kinda money do you have to pay to find a soulmate like that? How many souls??