fancybum wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:18 pmrelatablemood wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:45 pmThat's something I've never heard, or my vegetarian come vegan sister, my pescetarian nan or my vegetarian grandad have ever heard, or my vegetarian friends have ever said, but I guess you've seen and heard differently. Fish is meat, true, but it's generally treated as a whole other category. So no one would think that because a pescetarian eats salmon, they would then eat chicken, because they're not seen on the same level. Ergo I wouldn't think that pescetarians are contributing to discrimination against vegetarians or whatever. When you think of meat, you think of burgers and steaks, not cod or haddock. Maybe because fish are considered to have better lives than cows. pigs or because one comes from the water, the other from land, I don't know. That's what I was told growing up. But I guess that's my vs your perception, my vs your experiences. Both are valid. Agree to disagree.(And I’d argue the same for vegetarians but this seems like a fruitless (heh) conversation so I’m stepping out of it here. Like I already said yesterday. Uh, but this time I mean it.)Ok but... if a “vegan” eats fish... they’re by definition.. not vegan. Considering fish a vegan meal item is not valid.
Edit: actually, what are you even saying we’re agreeing to disagree on? That fish is meat? You even say in your post that’s true. I literally don’t understand what this conversation is or why it’s happening? I don’t even know if we’re still speaking English?
I'm tearing out my hair and I'm sure you are too. My point! Was always that people who eat fish aren't vegetarian or vegan, but that they can still use those labels for convenience and they're not hurting anyone by doing so.I'm saying agree to disagree because you think they shouldn't use those labels even for con - wait, you do. But you... omg what are we arguing over??!! I'm dead. Let's not speak about this again.