Dan & Phil Part 65: Phabergé
Speaking of Tumblr, aside from liking stuff and video posting, Dan seems to not use his anymore? He used to actually use like any of us mere mortals (those who can actually be arsed to anyway, unlike me oops) but he hasn't since September. I guess the queue ran out. I know he hasn't been particularly consistent with updating it even before then but I wonder if he's really over it now? It'd be kinda a shame if it'll just be used for video and merch plugs from now on. At least change your theme PLEASE.
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The tumblr thing plus tweeting less/less impulsively makes me wonder if "stop oversharing on the internet" was part of his whole self care thing.Catallena wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:48 am Speaking of Tumblr, aside from liking stuff and video posting, Dan seems to not use his anymore? He used to actually use like any of us mere mortals (those who can actually be arsed to anyway, unlike me oops) but he hasn't since September. I guess the queue ran out. I know he hasn't been particularly consistent with updating it even before then but I wonder if he's really over it now? It'd be kinda a shame if it'll just be used for video and merch plugs from now on. At least change your theme PLEASE.
ive been doing the same thing, im limiting my social media usage (expect youtube) and it's been good on my mental health. i have pretty much stopped using Facebook which is relieving. if it's bettering his mental health, then good on him! i just hope he is okay!alittledizzy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:42 amThe tumblr thing plus tweeting less/less impulsively makes me wonder if "stop oversharing on the internet" was part of his whole self care thing.Catallena wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:48 am Speaking of Tumblr, aside from liking stuff and video posting, Dan seems to not use his anymore? He used to actually use like any of us mere mortals (those who can actually be arsed to anyway, unlike me oops) but he hasn't since September. I guess the queue ran out. I know he hasn't been particularly consistent with updating it even before then but I wonder if he's really over it now? It'd be kinda a shame if it'll just be used for video and merch plugs from now on. At least change your theme PLEASE.
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I actually feel like he’s been tweeting more than usual tbh. Well in the past couple weeks. Yeah his tumblr seems to be dead but it seems like he’s atleast trying to tweet something every couple days, where in the past he could go a very veryyyy long time with actually tweeting anything except gaming video links. I do like your point about him maybe trying to stop over sharing with his audience. I feel like he’s trying to being more honest or authentic with things he’s trying to share. Minus the genetic self deprecating stuff. I literally have no idea what my point is.... I just wanted to respondalittledizzy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:42 amThe tumblr thing plus tweeting less/less impulsively makes me wonder if "stop oversharing on the internet" was part of his whole self care thing.Catallena wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:48 am Speaking of Tumblr, aside from liking stuff and video posting, Dan seems to not use his anymore? He used to actually use like any of us mere mortals (those who can actually be arsed to anyway, unlike me oops) but he hasn't since September. I guess the queue ran out. I know he hasn't been particularly consistent with updating it even before then but I wonder if he's really over it now? It'd be kinda a shame if it'll just be used for video and merch plugs from now on. At least change your theme PLEASE.
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He definitely still tweets every few days, you're right. They're just much more Phil-like tweets in that they're basically never about what he is doing/thinking/feeling in a moment and generally more of a very surface observation type tweet. The passionate opinions or insight into his emotional state have definitely all been sanitized away.Secretstanner wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:19 amI actually feel like he’s been tweeting more than usual tbh. Well in the past couple weeks. Yeah his tumblr seems to be dead but it seems like he’s atleast trying to tweet something every couple days, where in the past he could go a very veryyyy long time with actually tweeting anything except gaming video links. I do like your point about him maybe trying to stop over sharing with his audience. I feel like he’s trying to being more honest or authentic with things he’s trying to share. Minus the genetic self deprecating stuff. I literally have no idea what my point is.... I just wanted to respondalittledizzy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:42 amThe tumblr thing plus tweeting less/less impulsively makes me wonder if "stop oversharing on the internet" was part of his whole self care thing.Catallena wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:48 am Speaking of Tumblr, aside from liking stuff and video posting, Dan seems to not use his anymore? He used to actually use like any of us mere mortals (those who can actually be arsed to anyway, unlike me oops) but he hasn't since September. I guess the queue ran out. I know he hasn't been particularly consistent with updating it even before then but I wonder if he's really over it now? It'd be kinda a shame if it'll just be used for video and merch plugs from now on. At least change your theme PLEASE.
And speaking of tweets, here's some Phil in the shower imagery for everyone this morning:
He tweeted it and then came back thirty minutes later and replied to some people, which is different.
Tumblr as it is isn't a great website to frequent for positive mental health as it is. Though, I do think Dan (and Phil!) are probably missing the mark by not engaging more. I only say that as they are some of the most popular influencers in the website...for those who no longer even use it. I just think it's a shame that they no longer continue something that made them popular/helped their channels grow. They do use Twitter more often, and they aren't bombarded with probably dodgy stuff like on Tumblr, so maybe they're happy with that step back. Idkalittledizzy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:42 amThe tumblr thing plus tweeting less/less impulsively makes me wonder if "stop oversharing on the internet" was part of his whole self care thing.Catallena wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:48 am Speaking of Tumblr, aside from liking stuff and video posting, Dan seems to not use his anymore? He used to actually use like any of us mere mortals (those who can actually be arsed to anyway, unlike me oops) but he hasn't since September. I guess the queue ran out. I know he hasn't been particularly consistent with updating it even before then but I wonder if he's really over it now? It'd be kinda a shame if it'll just be used for video and merch plugs from now on. At least change your theme PLEASE.
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First off, love the birthday banner! Yay shibe plushies.
Regarding social media, one thing I’ve been thinking recently is *how* they share photos. Almost all the selfies and such that they post on Tumblr, are just redirected from Instagram (Phil has been doing this a little bit less recently). Which I get how that is nice and convient, especially while traveling, but there was a Dan ls last year (I think) where he was wondering out loud about sharing a photo set on Tumblr via Instagram and asking if it would show all the photos or just the first one. The chat told him it would just show the first and he was like nevermind then. And I thought, dude, you know you can upload multiple photos directly to Tumblr right? I get that they want to promote their presence on multiple social media platforms, but it seems like there is some benefit (not just laziness) to promoting their Instagrams especially. Is there a indirect or direct montetary benefit that I don’t know about with Instagram?
Regarding social media, one thing I’ve been thinking recently is *how* they share photos. Almost all the selfies and such that they post on Tumblr, are just redirected from Instagram (Phil has been doing this a little bit less recently). Which I get how that is nice and convient, especially while traveling, but there was a Dan ls last year (I think) where he was wondering out loud about sharing a photo set on Tumblr via Instagram and asking if it would show all the photos or just the first one. The chat told him it would just show the first and he was like nevermind then. And I thought, dude, you know you can upload multiple photos directly to Tumblr right? I get that they want to promote their presence on multiple social media platforms, but it seems like there is some benefit (not just laziness) to promoting their Instagrams especially. Is there a indirect or direct montetary benefit that I don’t know about with Instagram?
imo they do need to step up their social media game when tour comes around to keep people interested when there aren't a lot of videos (yes I know they said they'd upload a lot but I'm v skeptical) and they're gonna need all platforms. Tumblr is still the most popular platform for the phandom I think. So I do hope Dan's Tumblr hiatus is temporary, but if he really is done with it for mental health reasons or something then I guess that's that
I think Instagram is (next to Facebook obviously) the most popular social media platform for the general public atm? So they might indirectly reach more people, with their algorithms putting people you don't even follow in your feed. That's all I can think of, Insta sucks for actual engagement with people imo which is what I and a lot of other fans want out of social media interaction. Twitter isn't as popular anymore and Tumblr has always been a bit niche. But a lot of celebs seem more active on Insta than anywhere else so I can imagine there being other benefits.autumnhearth wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:45 pm First off, love the birthday banner! Yay shibe plushies.
Regarding social media, one thing I’ve been thinking recently is *how* they share photos. Almost all the selfies and such that they post on Tumblr, are just redirected from Instagram (Phil has been doing this a little bit less recently). Which I get how that is nice and convient, especially while traveling, but there was a Dan ls last year (I think) where he was wondering out loud about sharing a photo set on Tumblr via Instagram and asking if it would show all the photos or just the first one. The chat told him it would just show the first and he was like nevermind then. And I thought, dude, you know you can upload multiple photos directly to Tumblr right? I get that they want to promote their presence on multiple social media platforms, but it seems like there is some benefit (not just laziness) to promoting their Instagrams especially. Is there a indirect or direct montetary benefit that I don’t know about with Instagram?
You can actually monitise your followers on Instagram and Twitter like on YouTube. They don't really do it but they could get paid for posts on both. However both those platforms are used when companies would look at their social media influence. Tumblr is not taken into account.
Also tumblr is a shitty platform reach wise. You only really see what you follow and I'm pretty sure it's been dying since yahoo bought it. A lot of the fandoms have dispersed and the new ones aren't using it as much. As someone who used to be a big user, I'm pretty much never on there. I wish there was a better version where all the fandoms hung out but everything has been separated into different apps. So I am completely unsurprised they've decreased their usage even if it's not for mental health reasons.
Also tumblr is a shitty platform reach wise. You only really see what you follow and I'm pretty sure it's been dying since yahoo bought it. A lot of the fandoms have dispersed and the new ones aren't using it as much. As someone who used to be a big user, I'm pretty much never on there. I wish there was a better version where all the fandoms hung out but everything has been separated into different apps. So I am completely unsurprised they've decreased their usage even if it's not for mental health reasons.
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I just saw that PhandomGives passed £8,000! I can't stop grinning, I love how everyone came together for that.
If they wanted to drive their followers back to twitter or IG where they can monetize them, I think they should start using their own livestream features (Periscope and InstaLive) They might not be the best but it'd help the flow of people go through there.lilabet wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:28 pm You can actually monitise your followers on Instagram and Twitter like on YouTube. They don't really do it but they could get paid for posts on both. However both those platforms are used when companies would look at their social media influence. Tumblr is not taken into account.
Also tumblr is a shitty platform reach wise. You only really see what you follow and I'm pretty sure it's been dying since yahoo bought it. A lot of the fandoms have dispersed and the new ones aren't using it as much. As someone who used to be a big user, I'm pretty much never on there. I wish there was a better version where all the fandoms hung out but everything has been separated into different apps. So I am completely unsurprised they've decreased their usage even if it's not for mental health reasons.
I was a very avid Tumblr user, not anymore. It got old and boring, nothing new going on there and it's been a while since either of them been online. I feel it's no longer their niche,
I hope that if Dan's decision to cut back on his SM usage is due to his mental health, to stick with it. Happy Dan is the only Dan I'm interested in.
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I have a bit of a "theory" about the whole tumblr/SM use thing
1) Dan said (in the internet is mean + in several life stream) that he is a perfectionist and very conscious about what he posts on the internet, meeting certain expectations & self-set standards etc. I think if you overthink every possible post, you'll often just come to the conclusion to just not post anything because it is the saver option (and in his defence, his posts are being watched by a huge audience and even his likes are being picked apart, so no wonder he is very conscious)
2) I'm about Dan's age and have been a massive tumblr user since the very beginning of the platform, but over the last 1-2 years I have started to loose interest and sort of "grown out of tumblr" (and so have my friends). So maybe it's just a thing that is happening organically - after all there are so many SM platforms and one can only invest time and effort in so many
3) Related to the self-care theory, I find tumblr is home to the most toxic part of the phandom (not saying every phan that uses tumblr is toxic - I think you'll probably understand what I mean) with people picking apart DaP's every move, taking old posts out of context, making the wildest speculations and accusations. If I were Dan I wouldn't want to expose myself to that kind of negativity (& I am sure if he browses his tumblr there is no way of avoiding it)
I might be wrong & self-projecting here, but that's what I've been thinking about it.
Also, on another note: Am I the only one that finds that Dan looks a bit worrisome in the last 2 DAPG videos? I can't really pinpoint it, whether he looks paler or his eyes look different, but there is something that made him look a bit sick, almost like he has been crying, and it made me worry about him a bit.
I have a bit of a "theory" about the whole tumblr/SM use thing
1) Dan said (in the internet is mean + in several life stream) that he is a perfectionist and very conscious about what he posts on the internet, meeting certain expectations & self-set standards etc. I think if you overthink every possible post, you'll often just come to the conclusion to just not post anything because it is the saver option (and in his defence, his posts are being watched by a huge audience and even his likes are being picked apart, so no wonder he is very conscious)
2) I'm about Dan's age and have been a massive tumblr user since the very beginning of the platform, but over the last 1-2 years I have started to loose interest and sort of "grown out of tumblr" (and so have my friends). So maybe it's just a thing that is happening organically - after all there are so many SM platforms and one can only invest time and effort in so many
3) Related to the self-care theory, I find tumblr is home to the most toxic part of the phandom (not saying every phan that uses tumblr is toxic - I think you'll probably understand what I mean) with people picking apart DaP's every move, taking old posts out of context, making the wildest speculations and accusations. If I were Dan I wouldn't want to expose myself to that kind of negativity (& I am sure if he browses his tumblr there is no way of avoiding it)
I might be wrong & self-projecting here, but that's what I've been thinking about it.
Also, on another note: Am I the only one that finds that Dan looks a bit worrisome in the last 2 DAPG videos? I can't really pinpoint it, whether he looks paler or his eyes look different, but there is something that made him look a bit sick, almost like he has been crying, and it made me worry about him a bit.
No you are not the only one! I've been saying that to my friends within the phandom since I saw the Zelda Olympics.Shibi wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:27 pm
Also, on another note: Am I the only one that finds that Dan looks a bit worrisome in the last 2 DAPG videos? I can't really pinpoint it, whether he looks paler or his eyes look different, but there is something that made him look a bit sick, almost like he has been crying, and it made me worry about him a bit.
Seemed like his under eyes were a bit darker (we all know that despite the fact that he tries going to bed at a reasonable hours, he tends to fail miserably) and his overall aspect was a bit....off
I hope it's nothing and just mere asumptions.
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Personally I think they're both just super busy with tour planning and getting the tbc dates organized because there have been various editing mistakes (that have been quite noticeable too...) and honestly I think both of them look more run down, but it's harder to tell with Phil because of his complexion and he's better at acting more noticeably cheerful.BluntyMe wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:49 pmNo you are not the only one! I've been saying that to my friends within the phandom since I saw the Zelda Olympics.Shibi wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:27 pm
Also, on another note: Am I the only one that finds that Dan looks a bit worrisome in the last 2 DAPG videos? I can't really pinpoint it, whether he looks paler or his eyes look different, but there is something that made him look a bit sick, almost like he has been crying, and it made me worry about him a bit.
Seemed like his under eyes were a bit darker (we all know that despite the fact that he tries going to bed at a reasonable hours, he tends to fail miserably) and his overall aspect was a bit....off
I hope it's nothing and just mere asumptions.
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Omg I saw her on IG story saying she’s living at home and I because I don’t know much about her I did wonder if she lived with him. And I did think maybe they weren’t together....... I don’t follow her on Twitter did she tweet about it?
Her IG story mentions being single and she's made a couple mentions on twitter and IG to living with her parents again. I had always assumed they lived together, though in retrospect can't think of why? Probably because Deps visited them, right?Secretstanner wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:03 pmOmg I saw her on IG story saying she’s living at home and I because I don’t know much about her I did wonder if she lived with him. And I did think maybe they weren’t together....... I don’t follow her on Twitter did she tweet about it?
I do hope all of it is just some funky Bryony humor. A lot for her sake, also for Wirrow's, and a tiny bit for Dan and Phil. Because having to work around broken-up best friends is easily one of life's most difficult social challenges. Also, selfishly wondering about the future of those double date-cations.
I realize how insensitive this sounds if they did break up, but ehhhh. This is the Dan & Phil thread.
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It wouldn’t surprise me to find out that is the case.alittledizzy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:42 amThe tumblr thing plus tweeting less/less impulsively makes me wonder if "stop oversharing on the internet" was part of his whole self care thing.Catallena wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:48 am Speaking of Tumblr, aside from liking stuff and video posting, Dan seems to not use his anymore? He used to actually use like any of us mere mortals (those who can actually be arsed to anyway, unlike me oops) but he hasn't since September. I guess the queue ran out. I know he hasn't been particularly consistent with updating it even before then but I wonder if he's really over it now? It'd be kinda a shame if it'll just be used for video and merch plugs from now on. At least change your theme PLEASE.
That makes me really happy and proud to be a part of the phandom.alittledizzy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:59 pm I just saw that PhandomGives passed £8,000! I can't stop grinning, I love how everyone came together for that.
If that is true then I'm shook as well.
That sucks if it's true. I'm assuming that they've come to that point where they need to make some life decisions and found out that they don't have the same end goals. I hope they can get througg it though.rizzo wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:10 pmHer IG story mentions being single and she's made a couple mentions on twitter and IG to living with her parents again. I had always assumed they lived together, though in retrospect can't think of why? Probably because Deps visited them, right?Secretstanner wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:03 pmOmg I saw her on IG story saying she’s living at home and I because I don’t know much about her I did wonder if she lived with him. And I did think maybe they weren’t together....... I don’t follow her on Twitter did she tweet about it?
I do hope all of it is just some funky Bryony humor. A lot for her sake, also for Wirrow's, and a tiny bit for Dan and Phil. Because having to work around broken-up best friends is easily one of life's most difficult social challenges. Also, selfishly wondering about the future of those double date-cations.
I realize how insensitive this sounds if they did break up, but ehhhh. This is the Dan & Phil thread.
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rizzo wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:10 pm I do hope all of it is just some funky Bryony humor. A lot for her sake, also for Wirrow's, and a tiny bit for Dan and Phil. Because having to work around broken-up best friends is easily one of life's most difficult social challenges. Also, selfishly wondering about the future of those double date-cations.
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