rizzo wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:23 pm
Ya know... this breakout highlighting their different focuses made me really think about the Dan/YouTube relationship. Like... call me crazy, but has Dan ever really loved
making YouTube videos?
I'm not saying Dan doesn't or hasn't ever loved the act of making a video, I just think it's just not quite his cup of tea as much as it is Phil's.
I think love is a tricky word but I generally agree. I think he’s had such a tricky and tumultuous relationship with youtube over the years but I think, imo, it would be fair to say that he doesn't /love/ it like others do or that he sees it in the same light/way that others do ie. Phil.
When I think about Dan's relationship with youtube tbh mostly what comes to mind is all the agonising and ~suffering related to it all. But I do think there has been some benefits/love in it for him in some senses to some capacity. But, yeah, I wouldn't say he loves
it overwhelmingly or completely, it's too marred by ~negative things for him imo (the process, the audience etc. (to name only a few things)).
Whenever I think about their careers and youtube and the future, I can see it for Phil, I can’t see it for Dan. And I’m thinking beyond even just 1 year, this year.
I can see Dan still making a few videos I think he needs to make for himself. Doing them as a form of catharsis if you will. I think his depression video would have been an exercise in catharsis for him and I think we have more of that to see. He speaks so fondly and with pride whenever he talks about that video and I think that's the stuff he loves (which is the subject and the fact that he can and does talk about it - not actually that it's a youtube video if you get me?) but I don't think he needs youtube to continue talking about that kind of stuff/continue down that path - he's done his talks at events and he's done those campaigns etc.
So, I think the stuff that he does love about youtube isn't actually about/related to youtube at all but what he uses youtube for ie. a vessel to Say Things and create things. I think the things he does love about video making etc aren't stuff he needs youtube for. He can continue to talk about these subjects, things etc off youtube, he can continue to create and have control over video stuff etc off youtube. And I think that's where he's going/where he's going to end up imo.
I definitely think Dan’s future is in the entertainment industry in some capacity, but I don’t think it’ll be on youtube. I think whilst Dan currently does still have some youtube left in him, it’s not his future in the long term. But for the short term whilst things are still settling down and being discussed and thought through I do think there’s still more to come from him on youtube. Definitely this year. Beyond that? I think his future is off youtube. But it will take a while to get there.
rizzo wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:23 pm
I feel like this could explain the ATF updates and Dan just accepting that he likes more of the community/speaking/etc parts of his job more than the video-making part.
I think community stuff/speaking stuff is definitely more up his alley. I'd love to see more tbh.
I also think perhaps there’s a chance he’ll also do more behind the camera stuff off youtube at some point down the line? He’s talked a bit about his interest in producing/directing iirc. Phil talked about the tatinof trailer being Dan's 'baby' etc. and Dan talked about how much he loved it and loved doing the directing stuff for it. Also he's mentioned interest in directing/producing generally. He talked about having an interest in doing more documentaries after his Supergamers one but with having more control over camera stuff and general direction etc.
I mean I’ll outrightly say I do personally think joint branding being their /MAIN/ appeal is over. Not that joint content is over, not at all. But I do think it’ll become an as and when kind of thing. When the occasion calls for it, when they want to etc.
I think that Dan being Dan and Dan being the way Dan is joint content/branding being their MAIN appeal wasn’t going to last forever. I think their long term /career/ goals and interests etc separate at some point down the line and that’s cool and exciting imo. And I think Dan likes
solo stuff. He likes paving his own way imo.
And for what it’s worth, I think all of this is a strictly career thing and has no bearing on their personal lives/relationship whatsoever.
But yk it’s all speculation and conjecture on my behalf. I make a lot of assumptions about who I think Dan and Phil are, what they want etc. All we really can do is continue to wait.