knq wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:30 am
It seems like a lot of people heard Dan say that nothing besides DAPG would change. Where?
I think the only other place other than that liveshow where they tangentially mentioned the future and change is in an answertime answer which I'm going to quote bc I can't get it to embed:
Question: When is Dan going to post again?
short yet chunky answer: i took a break from posting on youtube this year (and thus the prophecy of dan’s diss track entirely came true) as i’m at a point in my life where i want to grow as a person (and creatively) and the thing about youtube is that it never stops - as opposed to a musician’s album cycle or a tv show with seasons that has natural breaks that allow for the creator to be inspired, the culture (and algorithm) of youtube expects you to constantly create with no pause. more than that, i feel when you make a youtube video you are putting a version of yourself out there almost like a snapshot in time defining who you are. i felt i could only really develop if i took a pause to think about how i want to grow. now that we’ve finished our tour and put ‘interactive introverts’ out into the world - which is a piece of work i think is very important and i’m incredibly proud of, i intend to think about how i can be more like the person i want to be. (which is why ‘trying to live my truth’ was the last real video i uploaded!) but don’t worry, nothing’s changing that much and i have no plans of going anywhere anytime soon, thank you for caring!
Dan says ‘nothing’s changing that much’ which, again, doesn’t deny that things are changing just that people shouldn’t worry/panic about it.
I do think that we’re in the midst of change. Things are changing. As
Knq said, they haven’t denied things are changing. They’ve only ~denied/downplayed the magnitude of the change.
I do think that they say and do things (and also don’t say and don’t do things) to mitigate immediate and dramatic mass panic and hysteria with their audience. And I feel like if they were to address all of the things that were changing or ending etc in that one liveshow there would have been mass hysteria and panic. More than there already was.
I also think they rely on implicature and assumptions too. The way they talked about the end of pinof and the ‘hiatus’ of dapg was so telling imo.
Preface to announcing the dapg ‘hiatus’:
‘Some of you probably guessed because of the Dan versus Phil video…’ (titled ’Dan vs. Phil - THE FINAL BATTLE’)
Talking about pinof ending:
Phil: ‘I thought- I thought it was like-’
Dan: ‘You can’t assume it’s obvious’
Phil: ‘I thought it was obvious enough- like a- it was like a subtle- like a closing- that was the last Phil is not on fire as well…’
Dan and Phil say things in the moment to placate/calm their audience and then don’t address it for a long time (or ever again) and it just gets to a point where they assume their audience has caught on. They have a history of this. Dan and Phil have a history of letting their audience down ~gently if you will. For example, saying that the end of the radio show was a ‘hiatus’ and then letting people realise in their own time/of their own accord that it was a permanent thing.
And I do actually think this does work regardless of whether or not it’s arguably the ~best way they could do things.
Each and every day that goes by more and more people are less inclined/less resolute in thinking that dapg is coming back. They’re less sure about [xyz] relating to Dan and Phil and, imo, that’s what Dan and Phil, whether consciously or unconsciously, want. It’s ~easier for lack of a better word for them to let people realise things in their own time and of their own accord.
It’s even happening with liveshows imo. The more time that goes on without a liveshow the more people are realising that either liveshows aren’t coming back or if they are, they won’t be like they used to be.
I think it’s about slowly acclimating their audience to changes through a lack of communication and a lack of stuff/content (ie. liveshows) if you will. And I’m not saying this is how they should be doing things or that this is the best way to navigate all this stuff but if having people slowly but surely realise that [xyz] has changed, it’s working.
But I also think that at that point in December they didn’t have answers to a lot of things. I’d bet they have those answers now. And I think they’re laying down the groundwork for these changes now regardless of whether they’re directly talking about it.
knq wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:30 am
It was an odd liveshow because I think they were trying to reassure the audience that they weren’t breaking up without confirming there was anything to breakup from
I agree with this