Dan & Phil Part 82: now onto the future

Our two favourite full time internet nerds who never go outside!
Templeofshame
delia smith
Posts: 55
Joined: Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:46 pm
Pronouns: she/her

Re: Dan & Phil Part 82: now onto the future

Post by Templeofshame » Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:39 pm

Pip wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:10 pm
Like, if they communicate their plans for something before it's definite (or before they have a set date for it) then everyone gets into a cycle of expectation and anticipation that can end badly if things don't end up following through (like with Phil's first video this year taking longer than expected after he announced it, or some of the TBC dates during the tour falling through).
+1 to this, I'm getting pretty frustrated with the hype around the omg-Phil-might-upload-sometime-in-the-next-couple-weeks tweet situations. I'm glad if it helps some people but I'm sort of on team upload if you're gonna upload but don't talk the talk unless you're ready to walk the walk. And when Dan communicates things like months or vague time scales for videos, it seems to me that it just makes people more restless and disappointed when it doesn't happen. Or things like Christmas baking... Just a bummer.



User avatar
sapienveneficus
living flop
Posts: 122
Joined: Tue May 16, 2017 3:22 pm
Location: USA

Re: Dan & Phil Part 82: now onto the future

Post by sapienveneficus » Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:44 pm

kavat wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:56 am
(This turned out more negative than I intended, I'm sorry)

It was a pretty typical Amazingphil video, which to me is... fine. Solo Phil content has never been my favourite content, I've always enjoyed joint and Dan's solo content more. It did make me laugh a couple of times but I wont be rewatching. I think I just prefer videos that are either more personal or someone being passionate about something, rather than "here are some things I bought that I didn't properly read the description for" which seems to be the main bulk of Phil's videos these days. I'm very aware that that's a me-thing and I'm glad others enjoyed it more, I wish I could too.
I mostly agree. I definitely prefer joint content and solo Dan content over Phil's solo stuff. That said, I have enjoyed a few solo Phil videos in the past. I know I've watched that eBay mysery box video multiple times. I've been trying to work out what makes this most recent silly content different from the silly content of years passed. I think it comes down to having something (or someone) to play off of and overall timing. In the eBay mystery box video, he took time to read and comment on the descriptions before choosing each box, and then, when they arrived, he took time to react to each item. That rhythm worked well. And, of course, in videos like Viewers Choose my Outfits and The Cheese Challenge, he was playing off of Dan, which we know works really well.

These past two videos, on paper, should have worked. But their execution has felt rushed and sloppy to me. Thinking back to the animal past lives video, yes it had the added Dan element, but removing that, Phil took the time to make a strong case for this service, and to dig into all of the qualities of his animal past self. That extra time and those extra reactions heightened the comedy. In his most recent video, he jumped too quickly from one service to the next. He needed more time with each to make it funny. Also, the services he choose really weren't that interesting. I'm sure fiverr has better options.

This is getting a bit rambly so I'll try to wrap things up. I am glad that Phil is putting out content, but I wish that the content was better. If he's going to stick to silly videos, he needs to take the time to find the comedy (both these videos have been rushed) and he needs to do a better job of editing (both videos have felt slapped together rather than carefully edited). I personally wish he would make more genuine videos like Why I Changed My Hair. It's still comedy, but it's also him opening up a bit about himself. That's what I want to see in 2019. (Well, that and the return of joint content. Oh, and Dan's channel.)
"Someone, somewhere is into that." Daniel Howell

User avatar
Stakhanov
stress mushroom
Posts: 628
Joined: Wed Mar 30, 2016 5:27 pm
Pronouns: he / him

Re: Dan & Phil Part 82: now onto the future

Post by Stakhanov » Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:58 pm

I think at this point the most important thing to keep his channel alive and his audience engaged is to post something. Not giving people anything to watch for prolonged periods of times is more damaging that releasing mediocre content imo. As pointed out both of them have an incredibly loyal and engaged audience, but there are limits to that (though it's hard to guess where they lie). I think that general engagement levels are already fraying at the edges (any k-poppies in the house ;) and not posting anything will speed up the decline they're already experiencing.

Of course I hope Dan returns with something personal that expresses a genuine sentiment he has or that strikes a 'relatable' chord with people, speckled with humor and thoughtful reflection in his typical fashion. Some parts of the fandom, not necessarily most imo, keep hoping for some sort of coming out video about sexuality or the ship. I don't see that second one happening as Dan has made his stance on phan very clear and you can't 'come out' of something that isn't there. A video about his sexual orientation might be possible but I still think is unlikely. If he wanted to make a 'classic' coming out video I think he would have done so before, it's not like people left him in doubt on how much they would have liked it. If he does it, I think he would do it more so because he values the message and wants to indulge the need of some people for representation, rather than because he wants to express his full sexual orientation/gender indentity himself. The most likely candidate to me seems to be more videos on mental health, since he said so himself he'd like to "maybe do more of that" and is actively supporting the cause through being an ambassador in organizations etc. I think it's also just his toughest struggle.

Whatever the video is, I sincerely hope we won't see the same kind of backlash as after 'living my truth' got released. Personally, I was appalled how some people criticized him on his style or tone just because he didn't confirm the presumptuous narrative they had built up. Some expected a coming out. It wasn't a coming out. You don't get angry because a personal video someone shares doesn't conform to the idea you had of someone. It really annoyed me, because that and the unfair criticism Dan got after his last liveshows is I suspect part of the reason he's hesitant of sharing more.
Last edited by Stakhanov on Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:07 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Some folks are born made to wave the flag
Ooh, they're red, white and blue
And when the band plays "Hail to the chief"
Ooh, they point the cannon at you
It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no senator's son
It ain't me, I ain't no fortunate one

User avatar
glitterintheair
truth bomb
Posts: 344
Joined: Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:56 am
Pronouns: she/her
Location: Italy
Contact:

Re: Dan & Phil Part 82: now onto the future

Post by glitterintheair » Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:05 pm

I think it's a lose/lose situation, here. People want communication but at the same time they want dnp to do their things when they're ready but they also want them to do Something. Phil is doing his best to carry the Phandom on his shoulders - bless his soul - but it can't be enough. People had breakdowns over yesterday's ig story because they finally heard Dan's voice, for god's sake.

sapienveneficus wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:44 pm
I mostly agree. I definitely prefer joint content and solo Dan content over Phil's solo stuff. That said, I have enjoyed a few solo Phil videos in the past. I know I've watched that eBay mysery box video multiple times. I've been trying to work out what makes this most recent silly content different from the silly content of years passed. I think it comes down to having something (or someone) to play off of and overall timing. In the eBay mystery box video, he took time to read and comment on the descriptions before choosing each box, and then, when they arrived, he took time to react to each item. That rhythm worked well. And, of course, in videos like Viewers Choose my Outfits and The Cheese Challenge, he was playing off of Dan, which we know works really well.

These past two videos, on paper, should have worked. But their execution has felt rushed and sloppy to me. Thinking back to the animal past lives video, yes it had the added Dan element, but removing that, Phil took the time to make a strong case for this service, and to dig into all of the qualities of his animal past self. That extra time and those extra reactions heightened the comedy. In his most recent video, he jumped too quickly from one service to the next. He needed more time with each to make it funny. Also, the services he choose really weren't that interesting. I'm sure fiverr has better options.
+1. The Mystery Box video is probably my favourite Phil's solo video ever because it just worked so well. It was funny, it was interesting and it was well-timed. I think Phil is trying to find his new dimension at the moment and probably needs more time.

RE: Fiverr - honestly, he should've just paid for the Gay Birthday Video. :daddy:
I'm a winter flower underground, always thirsty for summer rain.

User avatar
lefthandedism
inveterate introvert
inveterate introvert
Posts: 1053
Joined: Tue Nov 15, 2016 10:16 pm
Pronouns: she/her
Location: California

Re: Dan & Phil Part 82: now onto the future

Post by lefthandedism » Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:28 pm

lesterchuu wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 7:02 am

eitherway, ill definitely be interested in what he says about it because it seems as if hes thinking about it in private. over the years, hes certainly tried to open up to "typically feminine" activities like: painting his nails, casually commenting a lipstick shade looks good on him, and etc. but even from waaaaaaay back when, i remember how dan genuinely liked hello kitty a lot
I love all your receipts and this whole discussion. It's interesting to me that there's the sense that Dan is "starting to" open up about a feminine-presenting side. His longest-running characters (his only running characters?) in his sketches were Becky and Jessica, and he didn't shy away from playing other female characters as his scripts required. I entered the phandom by falling hard for Dan's sketches, and one of the things I liked about them was how easily he played characters across genders and ages. Whereas many other youtubers seem to play other characters in drag or ironically (or just not very well), I've always found Dan to naturally inhabit his characters. My favorite sketch, "Human Interaction" is a good example of this, and I think much of the humor is in watching Dan flick through multiple roles, as in the scene in the fish n chip shop, where two of the four characters are of course Becky and Jessica:
at 3:00
What I'm getting at is that Dan has already naturally and comfortably presented feminine as well as masculine characters in his videos. Of course, this was easier for him to do when he was so very young and pretty (since females are conventionally young and pretty). He did eventually decide to retire Becky and Jessica. But he has still comfortably played mature female characters like the NHS woman in "I nearly blinded myself" (the evil piano teacher was obviously a charicature, so not quite the same thing).

I don't know if that convinces anybody of anything, but here, Dan has also worn a dress in public at least once (I couldn't find a video with longer footage; this was during a live marathon for Stickaid 2011):

"If you're left-handed, ask a friend."
"Why am I left-handed?"
"Everybody makes mistakes."

User avatar
lesterchuu
morning quiff
Posts: 470
Joined: Sat Apr 21, 2018 5:42 pm
Pronouns: he/she/they
Location: canada

Re: Dan & Phil Part 82: now onto the future

Post by lesterchuu » Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:49 pm

oof, imma put the quotes in spoilers to save length
queerofcups wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:06 pm
Like, outside of some real unlikely possibilities, there's nothing Dan's going to upload that's going to please what seems like the vast majority of vocal fandom, I just wish people would be honest about what they want instead of dressing it up as "Oh, I just want to Dan to upload". Like no, you want Dan to upload a video that's this amazing deep dive into his emotional interior and gives you information we didn't already have about him and proves that he's ~grown~ as a youtuber over the year off, that proves that he loves us Youtube, but isn't too deep because we also don't want him to be pretentious. Like the bar is so high and it doesn't matter if he posts in the next thirty seconds, he isn't ever going to clear it. And I think vanishingly little of that is actually because of Dan.
liola wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:20 pm
I think this kind of argument will forever go in circles.

If phandom wants some deeply emotional videos where Dan and/or Phil are open and honest and give us a peek into some of their real life, we are greedy and insensitive and are going to be disappointed. If Dan and/or Phil give us videos that they want to make that will only please some of the viewers but not the majority because it's not what the rest wants, then THEY are disappointed.
What is the solution? What is the middle ground? Waiting until they're ready to make the videos the phadom wants or accept that they might not make the kind of content the majority wants and not go off people that might want something else?

I don't know, honestly. I want them to make the things that they want to make, and want them to not feel FORCED to make certain things - but I also want them to DO something.

@queerofcups is right saying that the majority of the phandom is expecting (at least from Dan) a coming out of some sort. I don't have a set opinion whether that is ever going to happen or not, I don't necessarily care whether he/they will do. I mean, I never thought Dan would make a video about his depression either :shrug: but the thing is, can we blame people for wishing for a video of any kind? I think it's pretty normal for an audience to wish for the kind of content they want. Hell, generally speaking it's why some youtubers ask fans for suggestions (like Phil just did with the membership)

They won't ever be able to satisfy everyone, I think that's clear. It's unfair to put the blame on them, but it's also unfair to put the blame on the audience imo. But I think that the longer the silence goes on for, the more frustrated the phandom will get, the stronger will be the response the moment something happens.

Maybe the only expectation we should stop having is for them to care about communicating with us :shrug:

like @liola said, i agree that what @queerofcups (sidenote: dw i understand your frustration, ive been in the fandom game for a long time and its always upsetting when people are being immature) described about the current state of the phandom is quite accurate. we all miss dan, theres no lie in that. but the expectation we put on him as the audience is.....tricky because dan is a perfectionist himself and also has high expectations of his videos....thats a hard habit to change.

i think its been especially harder for everyone for the fact that weve been spoiled rotten last year from the tour and all the gaming videos and joint content, so when theyve announced hiatus on most of those things, the phandom is basically in tantrum mode right now. im not saying everyone is like that though, its always a case of the loud ones feeling like the majority and unless we have the graphs to back it up, we will never know. it still doesnt change the fact that it causes tension and frustration for everyone regardless of what your stance is.

glitterintheair wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:05 pm
I think it's a lose/lose situation, here. People want communication but at the same time they want dnp to do their things when they're ready but they also want them to do Something. Phil is doing his best to carry the Phandom on his shoulders - bless his soul - but it can't be enough. People had breakdowns over yesterday's ig story because they finally heard Dan's voice, for god's sake.
Pip wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:10 pm
I get all the pleas for communication, but at the same time I feel that communication is a bit of a double edged sword for them (and us). Like, if they communicate their plans for something before it's definite (or before they have a set date for it) then everyone gets into a cycle of expectation and anticipation that can end badly if things don't end up following through [...]. That messes with us as well because we get all excited for something and then have to deal with frustration and disappointment. On the other hand, holding off of announcing anything until it's fully ready to go is seen as a lack of communication, and leads to phandom tearing itself apart in the periods of silence and over-reacting to the crumbs that we manage to scavenge.

but yeah, i do agree that its a kind of argument that will just end up in circles and its most definitely a tough balancing act. its already hard for me to handle 4 tantruming toddlers, imagine them having to deal with billions of kids and seemingly adults who whine for content. im mostly exaggerating here but you get my gist. if i were in their shoes, its definitely hard and not everyone is blessed in being skilled at communication or public relations. even if we were the most behaved fandom in the world, it will still not change the fact that theyll still have to deal with billions of us...and everybody not everyone can be appeased because different people have different expectations. im just going to stop now before i start rambling incoherently.

at this point, im just gunna lay down and wait. im too old for this.
Image
"you are next to me in my life"

User avatar
knq
philussy
Posts: 493
Joined: Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:42 pm
Pronouns: she/her
Location: Oregon, USA

Re: Dan & Phil Part 82: now onto the future

Post by knq » Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:24 pm

@lefthandedism Aw, you've made me wish for more sketch comedy from Dan! I swear most of the time I'm just here for the bants, and since there's no banter in solo videos I just sort of appreciate them for what they are and don't get too excited for them, but with sketch comedy Dan can have bants between his characters and that's good enough for me apparently. Plus Dan's 'valley girl' like personas always make me laugh--Bratty and Catty (Phil) from Undertale, the 'what is this voice you're doing today' voice from the pizza intermission gaming video, and a bunch of the older Becky and Jessica sketches.

User avatar
lesterchuu
morning quiff
Posts: 470
Joined: Sat Apr 21, 2018 5:42 pm
Pronouns: he/she/they
Location: canada

Re: Dan & Phil Part 82: now onto the future

Post by lesterchuu » Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:34 pm

@lefthandedism i totally forgot about that stickaid thing! but just to offer my two cents, theres a part of me that hesitates to cite his "female" characters as him being comfortable with presenting his feminine side simply because a) hes acting out a character that the video calls for, b) he was a drama kid, so hes comfortable to play different characters to some extent, c) some can argue that he was just doing it for comedic effect in some of his videos.

its easy to say "oh he seems comfortable playing a girl so he must be in touch with his feminine side" but it could come across as ignorant to some people so its a good idea to be careful with saying that. yes, it "feels" as if feminine dan is more of a recent thing is because its only until now that hes started to talk to us openly about such things. (dan) wearing a dress is easy especially if its for something that requires you to "dress-up" as something or someone because you can just chalk it up to "participating" in the event, but painting your nails or putting on lipstick for your personal gratification is different.

anyways, if dan makes an official video addressing his personal preferences in how he presents his own gender and what his overall thoughts about gender and the struggle/exploration that comes with it, that will be interesting to me because its something that he had only teased or talked about in liveshows.
Image
"you are next to me in my life"

User avatar
autumnhearth
pastel persona
Posts: 1357
Joined: Sat Apr 22, 2017 2:44 am
Pronouns: she/her
Location: OH, USA

Re: Dan & Phil Part 82: now onto the future

Post by autumnhearth » Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:06 pm

Not that it matters much but during the 2011 Stickaid 24 charity livestream the viewers requested that the youtubers did certain things if they hit certain amounts of money. PJ gave Chris a lap dance, someone licked another person’s foot and Dan sang The Llama Song. At one point Dan had a pair of his boxers on the table (I have no prior context) and they were talking about him switching clothing with another guy there. I think (though I don’t know for sure) that they upped the ante and Dan agreed to switch clothes with a girl (you can see her in the same red dress throughout the stream). Interestingly enough Dan avoided getting naked in a conga line by keeping the dress on. Most of the guys took their tops off at the beginning and were down to boxers by the end. PJ and a couple other guys were wearing tutus. PJ took off his hoodie and shorts at the end, but kept a T-shirt and the tutu over his boxers, I think there was only one other guy who kept his clothes on. Wild times, truly.

User avatar
plinthofmylife
living flop
Posts: 120
Joined: Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:41 pm
Pronouns: she/her
Location: USA

Re: Dan & Phil Part 82: now onto the future

Post by plinthofmylife » Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:44 pm

autumnhearth wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:06 pm
PJ took off his hoodie and shorts at the end, but kept a T-shirt and the tutu over his boxers, I think there was only one other guy who kept his clothes on. Wild times, truly.
I think that was the same year that Charlie McDonnell took his pants off on stage at Vidcon and promptly broke Tumblr. (I was in the audience).

That was definitely a *time* to be YT trash.

User avatar
dancy
phabergé
Posts: 299
Joined: Sun Oct 15, 2017 1:45 pm

Re: Dan & Phil Part 82: now onto the future

Post by dancy » Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:53 pm

Pip wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:10 pm
I get all the pleas for communication, but at the same time I feel that communication is a bit of a double edged sword for them (and us). Like, if they communicate their plans for something before it's definite (or before they have a set date for it) then everyone gets into a cycle of expectation and anticipation that can end badly if things don't end up following through (like with Phil's first video this year taking longer than expected after he announced it, or some of the TBC dates during the tour falling through). That messes with us as well because we get all excited for something and then have to deal with frustration and disappointment.
Well, you're not wrong. Something I've been seeing a couple of times here lately is about how Dan stated in the last live show that "nothing would change, besides the gaming channel being on hiatus and no more PINOF" but let's be real, that statement is already outdated at this point. Now I'm not saying there's been any major CHANGE change recently, however the statement does imply that all content would kinda stay the same minus DAPG. Other than Phil still uploading videos, that hasn't been the case though, there hasn't been a single live show this year, little communication/content from Dan, domestic Instagram stories and joint content has been sparse etc. It does make me wonder whether he just said that to calm people down or if he really hadn't anticipated his break and the lack of liveshows and other such things himself. Anyway, what I'm trying I say is that people do cling to the things D&P say, which makes sense if you're confused and looking for answers but those things don't always end up actually happening and that makes communication difficult at times. I don't know if now D&P are really trying to prevent from giving us indefinite information or what but either way there's nothing we can do besides wait and hope for the best :shrug:
Last edited by dancy on Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:56 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
alittledizzy
actual demon phannie
actual demon phannie
Posts: 4499
Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2016 3:09 pm
Pronouns: she/her

Re: Dan & Phil Part 82: now onto the future

Post by alittledizzy » Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:55 pm

...... is this where I break in to say I still think they're moving? Because I still think they're moving and that explains the lack of some kinds of content.

User avatar
lesterchuu
morning quiff
Posts: 470
Joined: Sat Apr 21, 2018 5:42 pm
Pronouns: he/she/they
Location: canada

Re: Dan & Phil Part 82: now onto the future

Post by lesterchuu » Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:04 pm

alittledizzy wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:55 pm
...... is this where I break in to say I still think they're moving? Because I still think they're moving and that explains the lack of some kinds of content.
im on this train and i still believe phils insta stories were nothing but a distraction to throw us off the loop
:tinfoil: :tinfoil: :tinfoil:
Image
"you are next to me in my life"

User avatar
knq
philussy
Posts: 493
Joined: Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:42 pm
Pronouns: she/her
Location: Oregon, USA

Re: Dan & Phil Part 82: now onto the future

Post by knq » Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:32 pm

...If they’re moving can we assume regular gaming/joint content will return after they’ve moved to a new filming space?

*eyes the moving hill*

User avatar
Ataraxia25
philussy
Posts: 485
Joined: Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:31 pm
Pronouns: she/her
Location: france

Re: Dan & Phil Part 82: now onto the future

Post by Ataraxia25 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:03 pm

lesterchuu wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:04 pm
alittledizzy wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:55 pm
...... is this where I break in to say I still think they're moving? Because I still think they're moving and that explains the lack of some kinds of content.
im on this train and i still believe phils insta stories were nothing but a distraction to throw us off the loop
:tinfoil: :tinfoil: :tinfoil:
Me too. The moving hill is a sweet place.
<3 <3 <3

Amiaw
janice from the shop
Posts: 502
Joined: Mon Jul 11, 2016 12:55 am

Re: Dan & Phil Part 82: now onto the future

Post by Amiaw » Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:03 pm

Cornelia tweeted about packing again- I wonder if she’s going on a solo/M&C only trip or if the boys are going too. It’s always a nice time to visit Japan....

User avatar
snokoplasmic
phabergé
Posts: 281
Joined: Sat May 20, 2017 12:08 pm
Pronouns: she/her
Location: New York

Re: Dan & Phil Part 82: now onto the future

Post by snokoplasmic » Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:15 pm

Membership post! I find it funny that this is twice now that he has directly mentioned the youtube algorithm in regards to this video with annoyance, lmao

vacule
squish
Posts: 34
Joined: Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:16 pm

Re: Dan & Phil Part 82: now onto the future

Post by vacule » Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:47 pm

snokoplasmic wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:15 pm
Membership post! I find it funny that this is twice now that he has directly mentioned the youtube algorithm in regards to this video with annoyance, lmao
Okay, I really like the stuff Phil writes for his YouTube members, they're like a cute little mini blog posts and they feel very casual and genuine. What if this 'content draught' is just Capita£ester's way of encouraging more people to buy into memberships? I joke, I joke, but I'm like two steps away from handing over my £5/month. :ribena:

(Also that raccoon!Phil for some reason is reminding me of the horrifying dogchild chimera from Fullmetal Alchemist and now I'm sad.)

User avatar
Ablissa
angel bean
Posts: 1072
Joined: Thu May 05, 2016 5:49 pm
Pronouns: she/her
Location: Poland

Re: Dan & Phil Part 82: now onto the future

Post by Ablissa » Sat Feb 09, 2019 11:00 pm

Semi interesting reply about liveshows.
His wording kinda implies there might be liveshows in other places?
Image

Amiaw
janice from the shop
Posts: 502
Joined: Mon Jul 11, 2016 12:55 am

Re: Dan & Phil Part 82: now onto the future

Post by Amiaw » Sat Feb 09, 2019 11:05 pm

I did think the wording was pretty specific but I’m not ready to get my hopes up for anything. I do want them to come back but I guess we’ll wait and see

User avatar
liola
angel bean
Posts: 1078
Joined: Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:09 pm
Pronouns: she/her
Location: Italy

Re: Dan & Phil Part 82: now onto the future

Post by liola » Sat Feb 09, 2019 11:11 pm

Don't you play with my emotions Mr Amazing, please
Will probably never be over the BONCAS and how cute Phil Lester is.

User avatar
glitterintheair
truth bomb
Posts: 344
Joined: Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:56 am
Pronouns: she/her
Location: Italy
Contact:

Re: Dan & Phil Part 82: now onto the future

Post by glitterintheair » Sat Feb 09, 2019 11:36 pm

Hm, I find interesting that he said he's not planning on doing liveshows on "AmazingPhil" instead of "Youtube". It makes me wonder if we'll get liveshows on yt but on another channel.
I'm a winter flower underground, always thirsty for summer rain.

User avatar
flarequake
cat master/boy slave
Posts: 1897
Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:55 pm
Pronouns: She/her
Location: London, UK

Re: Dan & Phil Part 82: now onto the future

Post by flarequake » Sat Feb 09, 2019 11:42 pm

plinthofmylife wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:44 pm
autumnhearth wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:06 pm
PJ took off his hoodie and shorts at the end, but kept a T-shirt and the tutu over his boxers, I think there was only one other guy who kept his clothes on. Wild times, truly.
I think that was the same year that Charlie McDonnell took his pants off on stage at Vidcon and promptly broke Tumblr. (I was in the audience).

That was definitely a *time* to be YT trash.
Well, I’m learning some fun things tonight. Charlie of all people :rofl:

That fursona is terrifying, the empty eyes mostly. Yikes. It is lovely to hear Phil’s thoughts in the post and the liveshow reply.

On the moving hill, I’ve wondered if they might just have packed up the filming flat and have the extra stuff to sort out in the living one plus be pulling back on showing us stuff while they think about things, or as a new more private thing despite us having seen parts of the flat, but it does seem more likely it’s not quite that deep and is indeed a full move.

User avatar
alittledizzy
actual demon phannie
actual demon phannie
Posts: 4499
Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2016 3:09 pm
Pronouns: she/her

Re: Dan & Phil Part 82: now onto the future

Post by alittledizzy » Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:16 am

Oh that wording is SO specific.... I have no guesses as to when (I'm still thinking March at the earliest, after Dan has posted a video) but still I'm gonna voice the guess everyone is probably having: liveshows that are a membership perk of a joint channel.

User avatar
flarequake
cat master/boy slave
Posts: 1897
Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:55 pm
Pronouns: She/her
Location: London, UK

Re: Dan & Phil Part 82: now onto the future

Post by flarequake » Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:33 am

I hadn’t had that guess at all, would they really cut off that much of their audience like that? I hope not. I took that to mean that his liveshows on YouTube were on his side channel, nothing more occurred to me (though how much ever does tbh). Numbers would be higher for a joint channel, but memberships for Phil’s channel turned out to be in the low-mid hundreds? Maybe, anyway, we don’t really know, but compared to 4K as the lowest number for a liveshow audience once they were also on YouTube/tumblr, huge lot of people who wouldn’t see them, at least at the time. Makes it easier for them to see the chat and gives them the monies, but how many people would be put off them by something like that being behind a paywall? I mean not just unable to pay but turned off them as fans, tbh, cos I think I would be after they’ve been freely available for years, different if it had always been like that (eg Thomas Sanders). I can see them using the memberships like they did with superchat for the gaming channel, not sure if that feature’s still there. Those premieres with people chatting with a few days’ notice of an upcoming video, some like them I guess, but I tend to ignore them.

Post Reply