Or a mix of both Taking out "the Climate Gimp" to protesting would take his channel full circlecocolero wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:48 am
Exactly what I hope he does. He’s spent years giving the people what they want (I mean he flat out went on a world tour warning people about this) and now he needs to shift. I strongly doubt he wants to keep on telling 12-year-olds how to handle relationships, or that he finds any pleasure in Dil part 127.
He needs to stop being a circus monkey and find a way to keep the quality he wants on an occasional schedule, This can be anywhere from activism like Jack Harries to bondage equipment reviews like Dave Wavey.
Yea when you look at it soberly, it seems so obvious to me that they've both outgrown the type of content that launched them to youtube fame. I always found "Give the people what they want" to be a pretty peculiar slogan. It speaks volumes about what they think about their own content. I would expect a truly impassioned artist, comedian or video creator to define what they make in terms of what it means to themselves. Instead of launching it with the baseline "here's what you want". It's almost like they were distancing themselves from the very show they were bringing.
Actually, come to think of it, TATINOF pretty much explicitly incorporated that narrative in the show. We don't sing llama songs anymore and Phil won't ask you to draw him naked, but here's a last celebration of our early youtube!
Some parts of the "brand", they can try wave goodbye. Though, like Dan said - nobody is letting me escape my past (not even his own mom when she wanted to buy him a llama, the poor thing ). But what do you do when you fall out of love with producing the archetypical content that made people flock to you in the first place? I think they both have shown signs of "metal fatigue" for a while. The II-tour probably masked it, but Dan never really restarted his channel after the 2017 winter break. When it came out, "Living my own truth" sounded to me like a new start, but looking back you could also interpret it as a final goodbye. There's plenty of indications from both of them though. The end of the solo liveshows, which were getting less frequent and shorter before that as well. Things became more obvious after the summer, with Dan pretty much saying he'll return 'whenever'. Phil's hospitalization - if related to his professional life and exhaustion- might have sped things up too. In any case, you don't just stop a series like PINOF, the quintessential symbol of "Dan and Phil", if you're still feeling into the sort of content you make. The way they communicated about it reveals a lot too. No state funeral was given, no they thought it 'obvious' that we would catch on that it had reached it's end.
I can't say they're wrong either. I enjoyed every PINOF, but they just looked increasingly forced. 32 and 28 (?)adults carrying each other around and flirting to their tween* audience with suggestive jokes? Yea, that's how you know that they are acting to please some need of their audience, but not achieve a personal feeling of professional fulfillment.
Happy to see Phil is talking about posting a new video so soon. Could be anything but I guess a bit of a redacted Q&A makes the most sense, since he had already started making it anyway. I hope it leaves us a bit wiser about the general future of AP and DAPG this year. It is really interesting that he's first breaking the news to his paying subscribers, that's def. a break with the past and just strengthens my believe that he's focusing on the highly engaged audience he's built.
*DISCLAIMER: I am not saying that everyone who watches Dan and or Phil is a teen or person is their twenties. There is no right or wrong age to enjoy Dan and Phil imo. The fact is that they draw viewers from all ages. The fact is also that the bulk of their viewers, as far as we know, are people in the middle teens until early 20s age category.
Because it's getting very tiring to see people put all kinds of words in my posts that often aren't there or even implied, let me repeat that I make no judgements about individual viewers or ascribe traits or qualities to them other than the ones I specifically write about. I would hope that we can all have a conversation and can read each others contributions with a charitable mindset, looking not for the worst possible interpretation of somebodies words, but at the gist of what someone is trying to express.