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Re: Dan & Phil Part 85: the phildom

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 5:43 pm
by fancybum
The thought of a rando buying that game just because it looks fun and then finding the birth pic inside of it (minus all branding and explanatory note) brings me a lot of joy.

Someone has to buy the unbranded version and report back if they removed themselves from the inside, too (or is it really “just” the box).

Re: Dan & Phil Part 85: the phildom

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 5:49 pm
by flarequake
It’s the stickers that were exclusive to the DnP shop version, I remember cos I sent mine back cos a friend bought me one for my birthday, was quite glad the DnP shop took it back weeks later (my mum had bought it, they probably thought I was a kid).

Re: Dan & Phil Part 85: the phildom

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 9:02 pm
by knq
Phil's laugh you guys :happytears: :happytears: :happytears:

Re: Dan & Phil Part 85: the phildom

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 9:40 pm
by alittledizzy
knq wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 9:02 pm
Phil's laugh you guys :happytears: :happytears: :happytears:
I love his mom in the instagram story too :( :(

Re: Dan & Phil Part 85: the phildom

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 3:20 am
by anna_begins
The Lester's love for Florida and Gatorland is endearing.

In other news, Dan has unfollowed Felix on instagram now too.

Re: Dan & Phil Part 85: the phildom

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 6:17 am
by obvsly
anna_begins wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 3:20 am
In other news, Dan has unfollowed Felix on instagram now too.
Better late than never. I’d like to think that pdp seemingly siding with james charles at the latest drama was the last straw, but it’s probably not. :lol:

Re: Dan & Phil Part 85: the phildom

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 8:17 am
by taco baco
anna_begins wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 3:20 am
In other news, Dan has unfollowed Felix on instagram now too.
I know he doesn’t like drama but I wish Phil would too...it’s really about time.
:please:

Re: Dan & Phil Part 85: the phildom

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 10:19 am
by autumnhearth
Amiaw wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 11:06 pm
I know they don’t have to like each other’s photos or posts but i don’t like that Dan was online on both Instagram and twitter at the exact times Phil posted and not only ignored his posts but liked other people’s stuff.

It’s like they aren’t wanting to be public bff’s anymore or something.
Sorry for going back to drag this out, but I have thoughts. First of all, of course your feelings are valid. Though I’m always reminded of Dan’s story about his friends asking why he didn’t like pictures that his ex gf posted. His explanation being that she had already showed them to him (in person? or text). We know that D&P text each other pictures before they get posted to social media. But your observation that Dan was on Insta and Twitter at the exact same time is a helpful one (it’s something I never key into). That ‘graphic design is our passion’ is still on my mind (even though the first part of the reply is capitalized and punctuated, so it probably is Phil who physically sent the response. I know it feels like a stretch to assume they are still dividing and conquering with the replies, especially since there were so few of them. But ‘ready to pecc my necc’ also feels like a Dan thing, though he might have phrase it ‘pecc the necc’ rather than ‘my’. Or you know they have just become one person.

Am I reading too much into things? Probably. But that’s what this place is for. And it’s partially Dan and Phil’s fault that I’m awake at this hour (or rather have been awake for two hours), as I had a dream beginning with Dan posting an Instastory of him driving (that I came here to report and mention that I had dreamt of before. *boom* IDB dreamception), followed by a post from Cornelia that they were at a stone circle, that turned into a nightmare of me and the fam creeping around chapels, crypts and caves at night. *shudder*

Hallelujah to the unfollow, but I share all the same sentiments as above. Come on Phil, the douche dude probably won’t even notice, but we will. And if he did notice, nothing would come of it. *whispers* Be brave Phil!

Re: Dan & Phil Part 85: the phildom

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 5:25 pm
by knq
autumnhearth wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 10:19 am
I’m always reminded of Dan’s story about his friends asking why he didn’t like pictures that his ex gf posted. His explanation being that she had already showed them to him (in person? or text). We know that D&P text each other pictures before they get posted to social media. But your observation that Dan was on Insta and Twitter at the exact same time is a helpful one (it’s something I never key into). That ‘graphic design is our passion’ is still on my mind (even though the first part of the reply is capitalized and punctuated, so it probably is Phil who physically sent the response. I know it feels like a stretch to assume they are still dividing and conquering with the replies, especially since there were so few of them. But ‘ready to pecc my necc’ also feels like a Dan thing, though he might have phrase it ‘pecc the necc’ rather than ‘my’. Or you know they have just become one person.
I love that you pointed that out! I would have never remembered Dan saying that about liking his ex-girlfriend’s photos, but I’d bet anything it’s the exact same situation with Phil. They seem to be online/suddenly like or post something at the exact same time a lot, even when they’re apart. Maybe especially when they’re apart. That would make sense actually, if they Skype before or while they do influencer stuff.

I’m also reminded of an exchange I think is in TABINOF where Phil asks Dan to read and review his tweet to SMG on his birthday. Maybe they do that generally. Pecc the necc and graphic design do indeed sound like Daniel additions.

Re: Dan & Phil Part 85: the phildom

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 5:41 pm
by Catallena


i was tired of doing instagram compilations so i went to their house and shot some footage of them there :spy:

Re: Dan & Phil Part 85: the phildom

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 6:01 pm
by kavat
Oh Catallena, you beautiful troll :lol:

Re: Dan & Phil Part 85: the phildom

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 6:49 pm
by Phantasy
Of course there's no rule book when a YouTuber/ artist/ entertainer goes on hiatus, but I feel more and more like Dan is in breach of some sort of unspoken social construct and maybe we the "audience" are owed more updates than is what is being given.

Sure Dan isn't one for audience pandering (condescension at times, but not pandering), so I don't expect a once a month "hey guys! I love you all thanks for the support, but I still need more time xoxo!"... But at what point does it begin to amount to an offense to the audience by staying silent? A month or two I think most of us were like hell yeah Dan, you do you and take your time, but over a year since solo content and 6 months since any significant audience interaction and I wonder if and where there's a line.

If he doesn't want the burden of fame anymore or his content will not return in the usual way than he should relieve us of the pretence that things will be back to normal soon.

Re: Dan & Phil Part 85: the phildom

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 7:40 pm
by 000dia000
Just dropping by. I was thinking...if Dan was to come back and do something completely different, do you think he would acknowledge his hiatus, acknowledge his fans, or would he ghost everybody and everything and try to start from scratch? I'm just speculating because if he is trying new things™ like people think he is what does everyone think he wants his audience to be? Is it possible that he's intentionally alienating his current fans to purposefully build from scratch a new fanbase? This discussion has probably reached beating a dead horse stage so I don't expect much response tbh. I've yet to watch Phil's latest video, I need to be in the right mood.

Re: Dan & Phil Part 85: the phildom

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 7:53 pm
by gnostic
autumnhearth wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 10:19 am

Or you know they have just become one person.

How sure are you that Phil didn't actually absorb Dan into himself and all the recent sightings of Mr Howell weren't just a mannequin?

Re: Dan & Phil Part 85: the phildom

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 8:53 pm
by somethingsketchy
gnostic wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 7:53 pm
autumnhearth wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 10:19 am

Or you know they have just become one person.

How sure are you that Phil didn't actually absorb Dan into himself and all the recent sightings of Mr Howell weren't just a mannequin?
Maybe Phil hired one of those gay porn star Dan-lookalikes Dan once said he has. :tinfoil:

Re: Dan & Phil Part 85: the phildom

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 8:53 pm
by obvsly
000dia000 wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 7:40 pm
Just dropping by. I was thinking...if Dan was to come back and do something completely different, do you think he would acknowledge his hiatus, acknowledge his fans, or would he ghost everybody and everything and try to start from scratch? I'm just speculating because if he is trying new things™ like people think he is what does everyone think he wants his audience to be? Is it possible that he's intentionally alienating his current fans to purposefully build from scratch a new fanbase? This discussion has probably reached beating a dead horse stage so I don't expect much response tbh. I've yet to watch Phil's latest video, I need to be in the right mood.
What kind of mood do you need to be in for phil’s video? :D jk but really curious hehe

In my opinion, intentionally alienating his current fans to build anew from scratch would be not only foolish but also futile? Unless he wants a new career completely out of public eyes (like becoming a lawyer or an accountant), it would help to have this huge number of fans backing whatever project he’s launching even if it’s only at the beginning. if the new thing turns out to be that much different from their expectations (in a bad way), they won’t stay anyway.

And I think it would be futile because, for the level of fame dnp have, they would always (or at least for the next few years) be known as Youtubers for the media. He would have to become outrageously well known for a new thing (like, John Green level) before he can shake off the Youtuber label. But then again, John Green has never reached dnp’s numbers before he made it as an author. So... I don’t know. :shrug:

Re: Dan & Phil Part 85: the phildom

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 8:56 pm
by flarequake
I hope Dan isn’t doing that cos I’ve had enough trouble not minding the silence sometimes, I don’t want to actively dislike him. It also sounds counter-productive unless he really does secretly not like us.

Re: Dan & Phil Part 85: the phildom

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 9:15 pm
by fancybum
Is unintentionally alienating your audience better or worse than doing it intentionally though? If he’s doing it unintentionally, he must not care (which kind of makes it intentional if he’s aware of it). It’s like a riddle.

Re: Dan & Phil Part 85: the phildom

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 9:36 pm
by anna_begins
000dia000 wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 7:40 pm
Is it possible that he's intentionally alienating his current fans to purposefully build from scratch a new fanbase?
Dan always says that nothing he does is "that deep" and that he doesn't have ulterior motives so I don't think his hiatus from social media = intentionally trying to alienate his fans, or anything more than him just needing time away from social media so that he can figure out the next steps for his career & life. He's never been the best at understanding what we as a fanbase need communicated from him and while that can be frustrating, especially during this time of uncertainty, I don't believe it comes from a place of disdain for his followers.

During this hiatus when speculations and theories come up about what this break is "really" about, I always go back to what he said in the mukbang video ("I think a lot of the problem is people are always like, Dan, what is he thinking, what is reasons for doing things, what are his motivations, what are his secrets? I don't know.") and that helps me not get caught up in thinking anything more is going on than him just needing some time off.

Re: Dan & Phil Part 85: the phildom

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 9:44 pm
by flarequake
He also has said before, I think, that if there isn’t anything to tell us, they don’t (I think they’ve both said it, and now I can’t remember who). I doubt he’s doing anything intentionally shady and not realising we’d like an update is better to me than intentionally keeping us at arm’s length. I can imagine he’d realise people are curious if not actually stressed etc and might think “deal with it, I need the break” cos I might think that too, but I doubt it’s an uncaring “lol, bye”, which is the best I can articulate that at the moment.

Re: Dan & Phil Part 85: the phildom

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 11:26 pm
by autumnhearth
Phil, Phil, Phil, I may have slept most of the afternoon and evening, but the sun is only just beginning to set in the good old EST. Guess he’s back in London. Jet lag is a bitch.

Re: Dan & Phil Part 85: the phildom

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 12:06 am
by rizzo
autumnhearth wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 11:26 pm
Phil, Phil, Phil, I may have slept most of the afternoon and evening, but the sun is only just beginning to set in the good old EST. Guess he’s back in London. Jet lag is a bitch.
lol yeah i texted my mom (who lives in FL) and she confirmed it's definitely not dark out yet.

thanks for solidifying the theory i was running with, phil. that dude's been in london for days and he stored up all these ig stories like a squirrel storing for winter. a smart move if he wanted this break tbh. (though, like... as a native floridian, the constant shots of wildlife did nothing to convince me they weren't all mostly filmed on the same day.)

Re: Dan & Phil Part 85: the phildom

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 7:08 am
by flarequake
Had a dream that Dan popped up in. A few friends and I were hanging out, one was looking at an anime on the computer and I was trying to remember one I'd seen in the same genre, another then said something I didn't hear cos I was distracted (still trying to remember apparently), when Dan and another guy appeared sitting at a table right in front of her and Dan said, with a cheeky glint in his eye, "Despite all those quizzes, I think I know more about penises than you" so I guess she'd just said she'd taken a lot of penis quizzes ;) (I think it was still related to anime, not purely penises, but who knows really). Thanks for that, dream-Dan. Also, he looked so good. It was nice to see him :)

Re: Dan & Phil Part 85: the phildom

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 10:03 am
by 000dia000
Yeah, I think I am too guilty with reading too into his motives. I like speculating but I just have to accept the fact there is no grand scheme and for Dan I don't think there is actually any big project. He's probably just wandering around, doing these kind of writing courses, and taking things slow. Very slow.
obvsly wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 8:53 pm
What kind of mood do you need to be in for phil’s video? :D jk but really curious hehe
I know the video is probably classic Phil fluff but going off the cursed thumbnail alone:
1. Can't watch in work
2. Cant' watch on public transport
3. Don't want to watch it at home in the dark

Re: Dan & Phil Part 85: the phildom

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 12:35 pm
by obvsly
000dia000 wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 10:03 am
I know the video is probably classic Phil fluff but going off the cursed thumbnail alone:
1. Can't watch in work
2. Cant' watch on public transport
3. Don't want to watch it at home in the dark
You're definitely not wrong :lol: