000dia000 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:24 pmIt's been interesting to read takes the last few days since the video, especially with seeing everything with a fresh pair of eyes. However, there are two kind of things I've observed, and I'm just wondering if everyone else feels the same way.
1. If you are going to agree with Alex's video that the phandom or even members of IDB are delusional/invasive I'd just like to remind you that you are STILL writing posts or lurking in forum dedicated to discussion and speculation. So think about that. For honesty, when I first watched Dan's video I felt a sense of guilt for being one to partake in discussion, no matter how harmless most of it can be. However, seeing the kind of video Alex made just pissed me off. Why? Just because you're speaking down on the "crazy shippers" (that's not even their entire audience) and assuming a sense of authority doesn't make you automatically correct. Alex still made a speculative video making commentary nobody really asked for, with little or no research or understanding of what they wrote. Frankly, if they made a post here or a thread on Twitter and if they were a normal fan account they'd be torn to shreds.
And then, on a separate discussion:
2. I'm just wondering, generally speaking, those that find the creation of art or reading of fanfiction kind of amoral now, did you draw this line before they came out or after? If they were heterosexual friends and had fanfiction written about them is it suddenly okay or is still bad to your eyes?
1. I think this Alex guy was way out of line and doesn't realize that he's painting a target on the backs of many of Dan's queer fans and I doubt that's what Dan wanted to come out of this video. I also don't like that he's on his high horse when he's the one who's profiting off a video essentially exploiting someone else's coming out.
2. I'm someone who used to constantly read phanfiction, but around 2 years ago I stopped. I was on the fence about whether they were actually together, but leaning towards no. Then they moved into their 3rd apartment and became increasingly openly affectionate and I started to strongly suspect that they actually were a couple. After that, reading fic just felt too invasive. I don't morally object to anyone reading/writing phanfic though, I just personally can't anymore.
I guess if they were just het bros and they didn't have a problem with it, I'd be ok with it but I probably wouldn't be interested in them anymore so it wouldn't matter. Lol.
Now as far as where I stand about the fact that I've been lurking on this forum for the past 3 years...I still haven't sorted that out. *goes back to lurking*