Dan & Phil Part 88: orbit of uranus

[noodlebum]

So, what I'm getting at is the Marathon thing and the coming out email to his family happened very close to each other, within a few days probably. For one, I'm thinking what an emotionally difficult week (or so) that would have been for Dan, and I'm proud of him for dealing with two pretty major things at once (obvs the coming out was more major for him, but the marathon thing was obviously a big deal too). Second, I'm wondering which actually came first, the coming out or the marathon dropping out.

Didn't he say he came out to his family that same month as his video?

Also Phil looks lovely in those photos, and serene/calm/happy. Stuff sleeping under that spikey witchy thing though

Edit: Top of the page, so let's include these again

[Phanshy]

Phil in Dan's insta story always makes me melt

[onemoresock]

I know this was a few days ago, but I keep thinking about Phil's Q&A; more specifically, how he spoke about the DAPG hiatus in relation to Dan's coming out. Dan had said, I suppose at the end of last year, that he needed to hit pause on everything so that he could make his coming out video.

I love that Phil's way of talking about this was that coming out was something so incredibly important to Dan and so Phil said 'ok, let's pause everything'. And so they did. DAPG, joint AP content, liveshows... everything that happened in abundance in 2018 and in fair quantity before then.

I know that we should be used to this by now, but I feel so struck by how much of a team they are - truly, as Dan said, they are companions in life. It's less Phil's instant support that gets me, but that they both made that decision together for Dan's sake, I think?

Idk, it makes my heart feel incredibly squishy and warm to think about.

[Ablissa]

I know that we should be used to this by now, but I feel so struck by how much of a team they are - truly, as Dan said, they are companions in life. It's less Phil's instant support that gets me, but that they both made that decision together for Dan's sake, I think?

This is something I've been thinking of since... well, forever, but it truly came to light since Dan's coming out video. Hell, even since the beginning of the hiatus. I've always admired how joint their lives are, and how uniform their stance on everything is, and with the behind the scenes knowledge we have now, I admire the way they decided to go on hiatus. (don't get me wrong, I still miss them and the lack of communication was infuriating, but since I now understand the Reason, I am no longer that frustrated.)

I love how they are always there for each other, as you said, truly companions through life. Dan knew that he needed time, and judging by the way Phil spoke about it, there was no hesitation - just a joint decision that yeah, we're putting this on hold, focus on yourself now.

And the way Phil trusted Dan to reveal not only his own story, but also Phil's? I think that's beautiful, and it speaks volumes about how close they are and how much they mean to one another.

I'm not trying to romanticize something that obviously runs deeper (and was traumatic for Dan). I'm just admiring this very real bond these two people have, this endless trust and a shared outlook on the future. They're there for each other 100% and it's just... so lovely to see.

[snoopysadie]

And the way Phil trusted Dan to reveal not only his own story, but also Phil's? I think that's beautiful, and it speaks volumes about how close they are and how much they mean to one another.

I'm not trying to romanticize something that obviously runs deeper (and was traumatic for Dan). I'm just admiring this very real bond these two people have, this endless trust and a shared outlook on the future. They're there for each other 100% and it's just... so lovely to see.

This is me since Dan's video. It's so amazing to see how well they fit and how they make decisions together that affect both their lives significantly. To me that fits 100% in the definition of "companions through" life and I just wanna cry.

i have not saved dan's ig story of phil to just show people and say 'look at how married!' 'They so married!'

[smolgalaxychild]

I know that we should be used to this by now, but I feel so struck by how much of a team they are - truly, as Dan said, they are companions in life. It's less Phil's instant support that gets me, but that they both made that decision together for Dan's sake, I think?

This is something I've been thinking of since... well, forever, but it truly came to light since Dan's coming out video. Hell, even since the beginning of the hiatus. I've always admired how joint their lives are, and how uniform their stance on everything is, and with the behind the scenes knowledge we have now, I admire the way they decided to go on hiatus. (don't get me wrong, I still miss them and the lack of communication was infuriating, but since I now understand the Reason, I am no longer that frustrated.)

I love how they are always there for each other, as you said, truly companions through life. Dan knew that he needed time, and judging by the way Phil spoke about it, there was no hesitation - just a joint decision that yeah, we're putting this on hold, focus on yourself now.

And the way Phil trusted Dan to reveal not only his own story, but also Phil's? I think that's beautiful, and it speaks volumes about how close they are and how much they mean to one another.

I'm not trying to romanticize something that obviously runs deeper (and was traumatic for Dan). I'm just admiring this very real bond these two people have, this endless trust and a shared outlook on the future. They're there for each other 100% and it's just... so lovely to see.

+1000 to all of this honestly. Their level of togetherness is something I've always admired about Dan and Phil's relationship. They've stuck by each other's sides through thick and thin for a decade, and don't seem to have any plans of breaking that bond now or ever. Best friends for life is the plan, partners through life. Even when things were really rough, so rough that it was exceedingly apparent to us all, but probably even worse and way deeper than what we had access to, they chose to face it and work through it together. They put in the work to make their relationship as strong as it is, and now it's so rewarding to see them enjoy and have fun and be the happiest we've probably ever seen them because they've put in the work to get to this point. I'm so happy to see them this happy, even more so because we now have a little tiny bit more understanding of what all it took to get here.

[alittledizzy]

There's nothing like signing onto IDB in the morning to see that it's been Softly Loving Dan and Phil's Love Hours.

[Susanisnotafish]

This is what I love about what they do show/share about their relationship! It’s so uplifting and inspirational, not at all “monetizing “. Such a difference between how they share and the intimate details that Shane Dawson and Jefree Star share (I get that’s for shock comedy, but still, I think it cheapens and monetizes their relationships. )

[cheetopapi]

Last night I was wondering why D&P like Vegas enough to go a third time. At first it seems very not them, but once I thought about it, it kinda makes sense. Phil loves playing for prizes, there’s alcohol, buffets, shows and sexy entertainment (though Dan has said he hates the open options at a buffet and actually converted Phil to his side in the space of a min, come on Phil stand your ground! Plus they’ll undoubtedly go to fancy restaurants instead). I’ve only been once as a pre-teen with my parents just as an overnight stop between national parks, so I only got to enjoy a buffet and a walk down the strip. Still of all the places to travel in the world or even the states, that just doesn’t make the list for me. I wouldn’t mind catching Cirque du Soleil sometime when it’s traveling though. They went once didn’t they?

As someone who actually lives in vegas, I could see how it is fun to go every couple of years. There is (in most cases) always something new. In the past two years alone, we've gotten a new arena, one of the casinos just opened a huge esports lounge, way too many new restaurants, stuff like that. Even though I don't expect deppy to leave the radius of the strip and do anything super active, there are a bunch of great hiking trails too!! Vegas is more than gambling and shows lol

Omg you live in Las Vegas?! What's that like? Sorry to be so off topic but I am SO curious about Las Vegas and wanna go so bad; it seems like such a wild wonderland that I can't even imagine people living their casual daily lives there

ITS SO WARM Its surprisingly pretty normal, 90% of the city is purely residential. Basically think suburbs but with a lot to do if you want to. (tbh most residents avoid the strip like the plague)
I don't wanna be too off topic but if you wanna learn more about vegas, feel free to pm me!!

[glitterintheair]

Loving all the dnp love hours and yeah I really do think their relationship is inspirational. I am aware that there are things we don't know and I am not naive enough to believe that it has always been easy, but from what they have shared with us, I can totally say that they are Goals. As someone who has never been exposed to examples of healthy relationships, theirs makes me believe that it's something that can be possible and gives me hope (even though lbr, their story is truly something else).

[onemoresock]

There's nothing like signing onto IDB in the morning to see that it's been Softly Loving Dan and Phil's Love Hours.

every hour is softly loving Dan and Phil's love hour in this PCOU

This is what I love about what they do show/share about their relationship! It’s so uplifting and inspirational, not at all “monetizing “.

There's something about their absolute refusal to monetise the details of what they have that really gets to me too. Like, I think... obviously Dan confirmed their romantic r'ship in BIG, but refused to explicitly verbally confirm its current existence and I keep thinking that ultimately, maybe it would theoretically be easier for them to verbally confirm it, but that does automatically take away from their privacy just a little and if they genuinely feel as though maintaining that privacy is something that helps protect their relationship, then I just think... I don't know, the idea that they're still that adamant about putting their own lives and relationship ahead of both the internet and their careers is oddly touching and wonderful to me. Maybe that's because in this day and age, it's so easy to overshare on the internet. Where before this year, it made sense because neither of them were out, now that that obvious barrier is gone, it becomes a lot more evident that still they value their relationship too much to actually risk it by exposing it any more than it is, I guess? (This is me reading so far between the lines, I know I know)

And obviously, that doesn't mean they still can't capitalise on their dynamic, or work together (joint channel come home), but I like that they have a firm line between what they will and won't share of themselves. It just feels like they have so much respect and care for what they have together.

.....Even if we don't necessarily know what that is yet because we literally haven't had joint content since 2018 lmao.

[noodlebum]

There's something about their absolute refusal to monetise the details of what they have that really gets to me too. Like, I think... obviously Dan confirmed their romantic r'ship in BIG, but refused to explicitly verbally confirm its current existence and I keep thinking that ultimately, maybe it would theoretically be easier for them to verbally confirm it, but that does automatically take away from their privacy just a little and if they genuinely feel as though maintaining that privacy is something that helps protect their relationship, then I just think... I don't know, the idea that they're still that adamant about putting their own lives and relationship ahead of both the internet and their careers is oddly touching and wonderful to me. Maybe that's because in this day and age, it's so easy to overshare on the internet. Where before this year, it made sense because neither of them were out, now that that obvious barrier is gone, it becomes a lot more evident that still they value their relationship too much to actually risk it by exposing it any more than it is, I guess? (This is me reading so far between the lines, I know I know)

And obviously, that doesn't mean they still can't capitalise on their dynamic, or work together (joint channel come home), but I like that they have a firm line between what they will and won't share of themselves. It just feels like they have so much respect and care for what they have together.

Yes I agree with all this!

I like this about their working relationship, that they have a line they won't cross however easy it would be to do and however much it would likely get them more views etc. as they cherish that private relationship too much. It's their safe space

Doesn't mean they shouldn't work together as it's monetising them together, as like you said, it's more their dynamic/friendship in joint videos rather than their personal/romantic relationship, which they successfully keep out of it. Gahh, love them too much

[stufflizloves]

This is what I love about what they do show/share about their relationship! It’s so uplifting and inspirational, not at all “monetizing “.

There's something about their absolute refusal to monetise the details of what they have that really gets to me too. Like, I think... obviously Dan confirmed their romantic r'ship in BIG, but refused to explicitly verbally confirm its current existence and I keep thinking that ultimately, maybe it would theoretically be easier for them to verbally confirm it, but that does automatically take away from their privacy just a little and if they genuinely feel as though maintaining that privacy is something that helps protect their relationship, then I just think... I don't know, the idea that they're still that adamant about putting their own lives and relationship ahead of both the internet and their careers is oddly touching and wonderful to me. Maybe that's because in this day and age, it's so easy to overshare on the internet. Where before this year, it made sense because neither of them were out, now that that obvious barrier is gone, it becomes a lot more evident that still they value their relationship too much to actually risk it by exposing it any more than it is, I guess? (This is me reading so far between the lines, I know I know)

And obviously, that doesn't mean they still can't capitalise on their dynamic, or work together (joint channel come home), but I like that they have a firm line between what they will and won't share of themselves. It just feels like they have so much respect and care for what they have together.

.....Even if we don't necessarily know what that is yet because we literally haven't had joint content since 2018 lmao.

i loved this entire post (especially the bit about how easy it is to overshare—yes! soeasy...a lesson i feel like they’ve both learned over the years the hard way—and as a result sometimes they overcorrect? perhaps that’s not even the right word. they’re both just so careful and measured when expressing an opinion or sharing something, as to not have it twisted later.)

this opinion has been shared before so it’s by no means new but it’s where my headcanon basically lies: they have no major projects to promote at the moment that relies solely on their relationship (ie, the tour, the book, etc) that would necessitate msm questions (ones that by nature don’t “speak internet” and would perhaps rely on lazy questions about their dating relationship.) their musings about the “future;” dans references to professional growth delaying personal growth; investment in solo projects—these all (to me!) spell a willingness to be slightly more open about their relationship in a capacity that ISN'T kissing photos posted to their instagram with their anniversary dates & emoji hearts all over them. THEY are very much in control of the narrative and i think that makes them feel safe and allows for healthy boundaries.

[socksparadox]

I think there's a clear difference between monetizing a relationship and simply creating quality, joint content. Now that they're out, however, I think they're trying to find the balance between those two things though.

I don't know if anyone remembers Matthew Lush & Nickalaws relationship (I know someone mentioned them in an earlier thread), but that was the definition of monetizing a relationship in my opinion, and exactly the type of thing Dan was referring to. Almost all content they put out revolved around the personal details of their relationship, and they ended up portraying this played-up version of their relationship that clearly took a toll on them, because they had a pretty nasty breakup soon after. Their audience become so enveloped and wrapped up in their personal lives to an unhealthy point tbh.

On the other hand, though, there are certainly ways to create wholesome, entertaining joint content as a couple without monetizing and dramatizing your own personal lives. People have mentioned before, but Jenna+Julien, Cristine+Ben are wonderful examples of this. When I watch their joint content, I watch because of how good their onscreen chemistry is and how well they bounce off of each other's humor, not because I'm necessarily enthralled in the depths of their personal lives. (Hell, it's the same reason I watch even some non-couples like Cody+Noel). Of course there's now an added "aww" element to their joint content now that we (more or less) know that they're together, but regardless, I think the main reason I enjoy and have always enjoyed their joint content is because of how naturally they're able to bounce off of each other's jokes and how it always seems like they're on the same wavelength. Romantic or not, it's a type of compatibility audiences envy and strive to have, which naturally makes it entertaining to watch.

[AltMay]

Yes to all of the above. Honestly I look up to them so much in terms of their relationship not only in a romantic way but their friendship is also something so beautiful to witness. I've been with my partner for 10 years too and dnp have made me think and reflect about so many aspects of my personal life and how i relate to the people with whom i share my life. Like they've actually set the example for many things i thought were unachievable and helped me figure out how to act in so many situations. It's become a "what would dnp do?" kind of thing for me and i'm eternally grateful.

[Susanisnotafish]

Yay Dan has posted more instastories! He look good! Yay for all this content!

[sonicgreen]

(its a twitter thread embed sorry if the comedic effect is ruined lol)

[flarequake]

Damn, he looks cute. Somehow both throwing and not throwing the hat at the same time. Progress! Maybe the ii dvd falling down the stairs in the tumblr vid did curb that impulse after all

[rizzo]

This post contributes absolutely nothing. I literally just want to say that I love the shit outta Dan. Why is he so goddamn funny? Like genuinely just the dumbest humor... but damn it. It tickles my funny bone.

I love one (1) Daniel Howell.

[Ablissa]

What sort of a ritual do we need to perform to receive a joint selfie? I really need one. Like. Reaaally need one.
I have so many questions. How long is this trip gonna last, what will they do, why is the airbnb literally terrifying, etc etc. Oh, and why is Dan wearing a hoodie in that weather.....

(Loved the soft Dan and Phil hours on IDB btw. I love reading everyone's thoughts )

[Amiaw]

I’m still so surprised that they went immediately on the road trip. I keep seeing tweets from people expecting them to go to future cons and unless there’s a sweet free vacation in the mix for them I’m not seeing a lot of cons on their future.

[Catallena]

Isn't Nevada generally hot as literal hell? The fuck is this boy doing wearing a hoodie? With shorts.

loved reading back the dan and phil soft hours, just what i needed today

[Amiaw]

So Anthony just posted a story tagged as road trip 2019....wonder if he’s meeting up with dnp

[Phanshy]

What sort of a ritual do we need to perform to receive a joint selfie? I really need one. Like. Reaaally need one.

This is literally me talking to my bff, who only really keeps up with D&P because of my obsession
I actually resorted to cutting and pasting a photo of them together from the group selfie.

[GalaxyDarling]

Idk if this is the right place to ask, but would anyone happen to have the privated/deleted Dan's Truth or Dare 2 video? I keep seeing that moment of Phil touching Dan's leg/thigh in fan-made videos, but I would like to see the original