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Dan & Phil Part 89: So what now?

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Re: Dan & Phil Part 89: So what now?

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Re: Dan & Phil Part 89: So what now?

Post by bluecaterpillar » Sat Jul 27, 2019 6:18 pm

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new amazingphil video 'soon'... towards the middle/end of next week maybe? also, i wonder what the chances are of dan appearing in an ap vid before he makes another dinof (well, technically a dh)? i'm not expecting dan to upload anything to his channel for at least another month and who knows when dapg will be resurrected, but now that he's out and he's made his big comeback, maybe we could get a cameo? is this just wishful thinking? probably

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Re: Dan & Phil Part 89: So what now?

Post by Amiaw » Sat Jul 27, 2019 6:23 pm

“Soon” is pretty vague considering he hasn’t picked an idea or filmed it yet. Idk if moving is happening now but Phil could probably buy himself another week or two before a video needs to be filmed. I’m just missing liveshows and general life updates so much right now because they’ve been back since last Sunday and we have absolutely no clue what they’ve been up to

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Post by alittledizzy » Sat Jul 27, 2019 6:53 pm

Hopefully Keelin doesn't mind me dropping this in here, but I love this psychanalyzing of Dan and Phil based on the patronus videos.

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Re: Dan & Phil Part 89: So what now?

Post by Ablissa » Sat Jul 27, 2019 7:03 pm

I forgot to announce the first one, but the second Phandom Watch is about to start! Hop in for some fetus Deppy!

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Re: Dan & Phil Part 89: So what now?

Post by cheekyc » Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:28 pm

Ablissa wrote:
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I forgot to announce the first one, but the second Phandom Watch is about to start! Hop in for some fetus Deppy!
I’m so bummed to be missing this one! 2009/10 era Deppy is so cute!
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Post by obsessivelymoody » Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:43 pm

cheekyc wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:28 pm
Ablissa wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2019 7:03 pm
I forgot to announce the first one, but the second Phandom Watch is about to start! Hop in for some fetus Deppy!
I’m so bummed to be missing this one! 2009/10 era Deppy is so cute!
We have another one starting at midnight UTC (so in just over 3 hours) if you're able to jump into that! :D

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Re: Dan & Phil Part 89: So what now?

Post by Tornbetweenfandoms » Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:02 pm

Hi, long time lurker, first time poster!
Everyone moved on from the VidconNow video quickly... I'm still completely thrown by how different Phil comes across when not edited by himself!
His lighting set up makes him so much paler than he is and we have been blessed with a brand new camera angle and close ups!
So much of the "Amazingphil humour" is in the editing and jump cuts...ieven in dnpg videos, Dan edits Phil's humour in too. It's so interesting to see how he is without it it feels much more personal and the "real" Phil... If that makes sense? Kinda in a similar vibe to the mukbang which was edited less.

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Post by alittledizzy » Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:12 pm

Tornbetweenfandoms wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:02 pm
Hi, long time lurker, first time poster!
Everyone moved on from the VidconNow video quickly... I'm still completely thrown by how different Phil comes across when not edited by himself!
His lighting set up makes him so much paler than he is and we have been blessed with a brand new camera angle and close ups!
So much of the "Amazingphil humour" is in the editing and jump cuts...ieven in dnpg videos, Dan edits Phil's humour in too. It's so interesting to see how he is without it it feels much more personal and the "real" Phil... If that makes sense? Kinda in a similar vibe to the mukbang which was edited less.
I definitely agree with this. I think he also is noticeably more nervous without Dan, which I get but at the same time it leaves it feeling like a weird place between more personal but also in a way less Phil? Obviously both are still aspects of Phil, but I think when we're just observing his dynamic with Dan we get a more comfortable version of himself. This definitely felt very projected at the audience and like he was answering quite carefully, the same as he did in the stage q&a. He's more on guard when he's solo.

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Re: Dan & Phil Part 89: So what now?

Post by madzilla84 » Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:19 pm

I think that touches on one of the things I miss most about joint content, of any type - they just always look like they’re having more fun. I really miss seeing/hearing them laugh properly. I do believe Phil has a lot of fun making his vids, and they’re really funny, but it’s a different thing. And as you say, they do seem more relaxed when they record together.
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Re: Dan & Phil Part 89: So what now?

Post by knq » Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:39 pm

I’ve underappreciated the shot in that Vidcon video! The distance between Phil and the camera is superb, the lack of bright white wall stunning. And actually being able to see his facial features was truly revolutionary.

I’ve noticed with quite a few DAPG videos how high up the camera is in relation to Dan and Phil. It’s interesting in their livestreams when Dan goes to give the camera a look, he accidentally does it to their filming camera several times, which is above the livestream webcam, and you can really tell how much they’re actually looking up when they usually look at the camera.

I think Phil speaks well on his own, I just think there’s no opportunity for banter so it’s not as fun to watch. Also, when Dan isn’t there to ‘scold’ him or react to what Phil’s saying, Phil ends up quickly responding to his own weirdness—like with the comment about new cells followed by ‘that was weird.’ He seems to do that a lot and it feels awkward to me.

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Post by Catallena » Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:02 pm

I'm kinda obsessed with the lighting in the Vidcon Now video. I have been whining about the way Phil's usual lighting makes him blend in with the walls for so long that, while I'm not feeling any type of way about the video itself tbh, it still managed to be real treat to watch. I wish Phil would start realizing how good he looks in more natural light.

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Post by itasca00 » Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:08 pm

alittledizzy wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:12 pm
Tornbetweenfandoms wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:02 pm
Hi, long time lurker, first time poster!
Everyone moved on from the VidconNow video quickly... I'm still completely thrown by how different Phil comes across when not edited by himself!
His lighting set up makes him so much paler than he is and we have been blessed with a brand new camera angle and close ups!
So much of the "Amazingphil humour" is in the editing and jump cuts...ieven in dnpg videos, Dan edits Phil's humour in too. It's so interesting to see how he is without it it feels much more personal and the "real" Phil... If that makes sense? Kinda in a similar vibe to the mukbang which was edited less.
I definitely agree with this. I think he also is noticeably more nervous without Dan, which I get but at the same time it leaves it feeling like a weird place between more personal but also in a way less Phil? Obviously both are still aspects of Phil, but I think when we're just observing his dynamic with Dan we get a more comfortable version of himself. This definitely felt very projected at the audience and like he was answering quite carefully, the same as he did in the stage q&a. He's more on guard when he's solo.
These perspectives are so interesting! I’m glad this topic has been brought up because this was something that I definitely noticed too. I agree that Phil’s vibe is the same in this video as it was during his Q&A and that the vibe is different from his other videos, with or without Dan. However, I don’t get a guarded or nervous vibe from him at all! I get more of a “he’s saying whatever pops into his head without much of a filter” vibe. Also, Phil comes across as energetic, but he doesn’t come across as having any kind of nervous energy to me. Like Tornbetweenfandoms said, he seems more natural to me, and I really liked that!
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Post by alittledizzy » Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:22 pm

itasca00 wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:08 pm
alittledizzy wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:12 pm
Tornbetweenfandoms wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:02 pm
Hi, long time lurker, first time poster!
Everyone moved on from the VidconNow video quickly... I'm still completely thrown by how different Phil comes across when not edited by himself!
His lighting set up makes him so much paler than he is and we have been blessed with a brand new camera angle and close ups!
So much of the "Amazingphil humour" is in the editing and jump cuts...ieven in dnpg videos, Dan edits Phil's humour in too. It's so interesting to see how he is without it it feels much more personal and the "real" Phil... If that makes sense? Kinda in a similar vibe to the mukbang which was edited less.
I definitely agree with this. I think he also is noticeably more nervous without Dan, which I get but at the same time it leaves it feeling like a weird place between more personal but also in a way less Phil? Obviously both are still aspects of Phil, but I think when we're just observing his dynamic with Dan we get a more comfortable version of himself. This definitely felt very projected at the audience and like he was answering quite carefully, the same as he did in the stage q&a. He's more on guard when he's solo.
These perspectives are so interesting! I’m glad this topic has been brought up because this was something that I definitely noticed too. I agree that Phil’s vibe is the same in this video as it was during his Q&A and that the vibe is different from his other videos, with or without Dan. However, I don’t get a guarded or nervous vibe from him at all! I get more of a “he’s saying whatever pops into his head without much of a filter” vibe. Also, Phil comes across as energetic, but he doesn’t come across as having any kind of nervous energy to me. Like Tornbetweenfandoms said, he seems more natural to me, and I really liked that!
I think what strikes me as more on guard is what knq said, actually - it's that Phil kind of sets himself up for a joke where Dan would fill in but because Dan isn't there to Phil just does it himself. So Phil saying a typical Phil thing then immediately acknowledging it as weird, and his sort of... answer filler crutches like "Oof" (which he said a lot during the q&a) strike me as public speaking discomfort vibes. His tone is more natural, I agree with that, he just seems very nervous.

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Post by GalaxyDarling » Sun Jul 28, 2019 12:17 am

For comedy purposes, they deffo are the funniest together. All of their edited videos have a comedy aspect to them (even BIG), so those feel like performances, rather than authentic, spontaneous bants. It's the live streams, tour video commentary, and interviews where we get to see and hear glimpses of their authentic selves (they even talk with a more relaxed, deeper voice).

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Post by cheekyc » Sun Jul 28, 2019 2:39 am

GalaxyDarling wrote:
Sun Jul 28, 2019 12:17 am
For comedy purposes, they deffo are the funniest together. All of their edited videos have a comedy aspect to them (even BIG), so those feel like performances, rather than authentic, spontaneous bants. It's the live streams, tour video commentary, and interviews where we get to see and hear glimpses of their authentic selves (they even talk with a more relaxed, deeper voice).
I agree 100%. I think their personalities balance each other out well, making for excellent comedy, but their quieter moments are really where they shine through. I think that another big part of it is how comfortable they feel with one another AND their audience. I’m really excited to see what the future holds. I miss their liveshows. :/
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Post by masterofgeometry » Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:34 am

cheekyc wrote:
Sun Jul 28, 2019 2:39 am
GalaxyDarling wrote:
Sun Jul 28, 2019 12:17 am
For comedy purposes, they deffo are the funniest together. All of their edited videos have a comedy aspect to them (even BIG), so those feel like performances, rather than authentic, spontaneous bants. It's the live streams, tour video commentary, and interviews where we get to see and hear glimpses of their authentic selves (they even talk with a more relaxed, deeper voice).
I agree 100%. I think their personalities balance each other out well, making for excellent comedy, but their quieter moments are really where they shine through. I think that another big part of it is how comfortable they feel with one another AND their audience. I’m really excited to see what the future holds. I miss their liveshows. :/
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Post by Tornbetweenfandoms » Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:47 am

masterofgeometry wrote:
Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:34 am

I'd die for more content like the 2017 video bloopers + dapg bloopers :happytears: they're so homely

What if they released 10 years of gay joke bloopers they've been editing out :loveeyes:

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Post by Ataraxia25 » Sun Jul 28, 2019 12:30 pm

Yeah I wouldn't mind to see all the things they had to edit out (especially in terms of "gay jokes" and alike) and how maybe they used to have more footage before, than in 2017/2018/2019 for example
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Post by Megancita75 » Sun Jul 28, 2019 1:01 pm

One thing I've been wondering about is who DnP take inspiration from among their creative peers. I've been listening to Perfume Genius a lot lately and reading interviews with him, and I'm very intrigued by how he and his long-term partner and bandmate Alan work together professionally but also how they express gender through the Perfume Genius persona but also in what they share on social media. I'd love to see DnP's browsing history to see who they might be taking cues from going forward.

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Post by moon-boye » Sun Jul 28, 2019 2:22 pm

slight diversion from the current topic but i just watched jacksepticeye's recent video about how variety gaming (like dapg) is experiencing a downturn in the youtube economy, and found it really insightful. obviously there are other factors for dnp in deciding what to do with dapg going forward (most of them related to the pcou), but i can't help but wonder if we have a skewed perception of how big of a revenue stream the channel is/was for them.

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