Katka wrote: ↑Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:18 pm
firsttimeposter wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 1:44 pm
this is quite irrelevant, but I’ve been wondering - do y’all think Phil used that email alter-ego ‘snowdude’ exemplified in his tinder video not to talk to girls being a ‘hot surfer dude’ but instead anonymously mailing guys before coming out? I feel like him texting a girl that age is highly unlikely lmao.
I rewatched that the other day and wondered the same thing. But I'm not sure how certain Phil was of his sexuality way back then. He also mentioned having a girlfriend for like three days or something in one of his older videos where he's reading through his old chat logs from when he was 13-ish (I think). Might be he twisted that a little because he wasn't ready to come out yet, might also be he actually did flirt with girls/ have girlfriends at a younger age before he really knew he was gay. Maybe he'll clear this up one day, maybe he won't, it's up to him of course, but I've been thinking about these girlfriend mentions too. But overall I get the sense that he was big on spinning things in a straighter way but not fully lying about them?
Didn't he talk specifically in COTY about his week-long girlfriends and how "when it got to the kissing, it was pretty obvious I wasn't interested"? I mean, personally I don't think he'd have reason to actively perpetuate those if they were lies (and I also think it's a pretty common experience for closeted queer people around that age to try to emulate the socially-accepted teen behavior around them, so I don't see it as unlikely). I think the vid is pretty clear about it?
"But being forced into silence, and not being able to have fun or just do all the things that my straight friends were doing made me really sad. All my friends are having first girlfriends, and first kisses. And I just felt really left out, and weird. I even thought that if I tried to be straight, it would just magically fix me and everything would be fine. I even had some girlfriends… Some, two, for a while. A while, a week each. (laughs)
I mean it didn’t last very long. Because when it got to the kissin’, it was pretty obvious I wasn’t interested."
I mean, he certainly could have flirted with guys online, but like the girl with the story where she ends up kissing another guy at a movie and he ends up being good friends with the other guy (apart from I think it being commonly accepted who that friend is) seems to be a believable story that makes sense as about a girl he was trying to perform heterosexuality with briefly. I'm not sure if there are specific stories that would make sense as guys or just as being invented for closet purposes.