Dan & Phil Part 100: full-time internet homowners

Our two favourite full time internet nerds who never go outside!
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as someone who has never interacted with them, what I notice in how people approach IRL is that they almost treated like a separate entity from DnP, as if the two did not have much saying in how the company works - which mean how the company respond to emails.

Like, they are not that big, so guidelines on procedures must go through managers, but managers then report to directors, which DnP are.

This makes me see how important it is for a brand to separate itself in various divisions so that the "fault" on one does not fall on directly on the branded-entity, but to what are perceived as "affiliates", regardless of how much unity there is behind the scene.
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Levitating wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:22 pm as someone who has never interacted with them, what I notice in how people approach IRL is that they almost treated like a separate entity from DnP, as if the two did not have much saying in how the company works - which mean how the company respond to emails.

Like, they are not that big, so guidelines on procedures must go through managers, but managers then report to directors, which DnP are.

This makes me see how important it is for a brand to separate itself in various divisions so that the "fault" on one does not fall on directly on the branded-entity, but to what are perceived as "affiliates", regardless of how much unity there is behind the scene.
It's interesting to consider. I definitely do think they have some say in how the company works in the big picture sense - if Dan says source things ethically, they source things ethically. If Phil says here's what I want for merch, or here's someone I want us to work with, they do that.

But I don't believe Dan and Phil have any say in the day to day operations of the company. They're not sitting down responding to user emails, or in the warehouse handling shipping, or doing quality checking on items before they go out the door. I think they hold some responsibility for a company that operates under their guideline, but directing comments (or ire) at them won't get as much done, imo. Dan and Phil get thousands of tweets at them a day, up to tens of thousands if they're engaging with fans, whereas IRL as a business has no purpose besides to sell to and engage with customers.
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I agree with the above, I doubt that Dan and Phil even see the @'s sent to them, if you have a verified account on twitter instead of the options when you press the bell icon of 'all' and 'mentions' you have 'all', 'filtered' and 'verified'.

That's why they will often reply to the same people on twitter, as the 'filtered' option is run by some weird twitter algorithm that prioritises accounts that you've interacted with before and pushes down people who send multiple replies with no response, to reduce bots and spam. I'd assume they leave it on verified only the rest of the time.

Insta is even easier to send everyone but people you follow back to a special dm folder that you never even see. I think a video T-pain did shows this pretty clearly as he found his and he'd been ignoring other celebs dm's for years :lol:

That being said I think it's odd that IRL literally employ one customer service representative. I get that their fulfilment company should be able to deal with returns if they are being paid for it, but clearly they're not responding well- you'd surely take a look into your customer service if you had a parody account on twitter ...right?
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I think one factor in the customer service thing is that they have really big peaks and valleys in sales. They sell a lot within the first days of a new drop, then probably not a lot in between, and the workload for a customer service agent probably follows along the same curves. That makes staffing difficult, because it's really expensive to have someone on contract for an extended period of time of little to no workload, just in case. I think that's why people sometimes have to wait a long time for a reply, because there's only one agent at that time that's overloaded with work, and next week they might have nothing.

Pure speculation though, but it's based on my job that is having a hard time figuring out the staffing situation for the summer months. We might need 2 agents, we might need 5, and there's basically no way of knowing.
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PHIL LIVES!!! New community post!
AmazingPhil wrote:HELLO CACTI!

Hope you’re all doing snazzy.

We’re about to unpack the final box, shove the final electrician out of our house and find somewhere to put my golden pig. It’s been a bit of a marathon getting everything sorted and making sure the toilets flush and the lights aren’t broken but WE GOT THERE! Functional house activated!!

You may have seen on twitter that I christened the new place by yeeting a milkshake all over the wall but I think this was a good thing as now it feels like I properly own it and I’m less worried if a microscopic crumb falls on the sofa or whatever, and trust me, there will be more crumbs in the future.

I needed a few days to inhale 12 cakes for some guy’s 30th birthday but starting tomorrow I’m ready to get back on this internet horse! (If you didn’t see the cake go check out Dan’s instagram btw it was like his soul got compressed into delicious sponge.) I've also needed a few days to recover from a ..certain incident i'll be telling you about soon.

Back to the internet horse - (please let me know in the comments what you imagine this would look like) The first thing for me will be getting my filming setup ready so you should be seeing my face pretty soon in a brand new room! ngl it looks pretty similar to the last setup but now there is… CARPET so that should make things a bit less echoey.

Our new internet is a mild upgrade from 2mb to 500mb too so I’m excited to be able to upload in about 3 seconds instead of 2.5 hours!

A lil note for you rainbow cacti - I was going to film your video before moving but I packed the rainbow shirt I bought specially for the shoutouts in a box and then forgot which box, BUT I FOUND THE BOX so that’s coming sooner rather than later. Thanks for your patience on that one!

I know I wasn’t around last month on here and as it is pride month I’ve decided to donate all the June membership moneys to AKT charity, so thanks for the continued green and spiky support and I’ll be back with another update
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I love that Phil makes sure to tell us right away that he won the golden pig argument.

Looking forward to whatever injury Phil has to tell us about.
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I'm dying to see what the new AmazingPhil filming space is gonna look like. Will it be a copy of the previous one or is he gonna keep things interesting and go for something different? No longer a tiny corner perhaps? I'd love to feel less claustrophobic when I watch him.
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I am just gonna assume that tweet is Dan coming to terms with the fact that the golden pig is in his life for good and he needs to just cope with it.
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I’m impressed Phil managed to get carpet in the house with Dan around to veto.

I really like that he’s choosing to donate the subscriber money this month. He’s barely ever active in the cacti community but it’s some kind of acknowledgement of that at least. From his phrasing though, I wonder if he considers just posting normal videos him being around for members as well?
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shan wrote: Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:24 pm I’m impressed Phil managed to get carpet in the house with Dan around to veto.
I'm not surprised that there's at least some carpet, but it is making me desperately curious for more house details!! tbh I very highly doubt there's carpet everywhere, since they've both agreed that wood floors are taste before (and they would be right) but having a carpeted room for filming does make a bit of sense for sound type stuff. Good fucking riddance echo-y white tile floor. Although now that I think about it carpet is not as conducive to the chaotic things Phil does sometimes that would make a real mess. Maybe he can be smart and do those somewhere without carpet.

Also while idk what kind of mood it means Dan's in, that tweet did resonate with me as I've been reflecting recently on the way things, especially things like drama on social media can effect my mood a lot and realizing that I could really do with just not giving as much of a shit sometimes. It seems to have been going well so far.
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inanerat wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:23 am
shan wrote: Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:24 pm I’m impressed Phil managed to get carpet in the house with Dan around to veto.
I'm not surprised that there's at least some carpet, but it is making me desperately curious for more house details!! tbh I very highly doubt there's carpet everywhere, since they've both agreed that wood floors are taste before (and they would be right) but having a carpeted room for filming does make a bit of sense for sound type stuff. Good fucking riddance echo-y white tile floor. Although now that I think about it carpet is not as conducive to the chaotic things Phil does sometimes that would make a real mess. Maybe he can be smart and do those somewhere without carpet.

Also while idk what kind of mood it means Dan's in, that tweet did resonate with me as I've been reflecting recently on the way things, especially things like drama on social media can effect my mood a lot and realizing that I could really do with just not giving as much of a shit sometimes. It seems to have been going well so far.
I would bet it's the only room he got away with putting carpet in because he had the excuse of the acoustics but I could definitely see Dan being a bit of a shit about it :lol:

And big yes to the social media thing. I've started avoiding the trending tab on twitter after Dan said something about it in one of his interviews and he's so right. It's a FOMO thing of wanting to know what's going on but 9 times out of 10 it just makes me uselessly frustrated and mad.
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So... Phil... incident...

Do we have Theories, friends? (I know we do. Come on, spill.)
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alittledizzy wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:09 pm So... Phil... incident...

Do we have Theories, friends? (I know we do. Come on, spill.)
I mean twitter has of course already (jokingly) supplied both engagement and divorce, and it seems like lots of people are onto the likelihood of Phil being clumsy in some way, which I agree with especially with moving.

Although to tease it so ominously ('THE INCIDENT' sounds like it could be the title of a 2014 AP video) and make it sound like something that could be a substantial part of the video? Just the everyday Phil clumsiness seems like it would be a little tame for that. But I don't really know,, something moving related? Something with the house unexpectedly going wrong because it wasn't installed properly? Navigating gay awkwardness when the moving people realize they are moving two men from their functionally one bedroom flat to their fancy house together? Spilling your box of kink gear in the moving van? idk i'm just throwing out a variety of options here. :lol:

I'm excited, regardless. I just miss Phil's face a lot.
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alittledizzy wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:09 pm So... Phil... incident...

Do we have Theories, friends? (I know we do. Come on, spill.)
I’m gonna say he slipped down the floating stairs. It’s only a matter of time if it hasn’t happened yet. Mines not fun or exciting I’m just waiting for the story time

Also “incident” reminded me of the mouse in bucket story :dead:
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I was surprised that Dan's tweet wasn't accompanied by a slutty insta photo, who would have thought! He'll have me clowning the livestream won't mention life being an insignificant slice of sourdough in the toaster of existential doom at this rate.

Phil predictions - boring ones are fell down, up or through the stairs or he had some sort of vaccine related issue. Nonsense suggestions are:
  • Dropped Dan's bday gift and it smashed. Worst partner in crime *ever*
  • Bought Dan the grand piano causing him to spend 70% of his birthday crying
  • Accidentally slapped the electrician's ass mistaking him for Dan, causing a cringe that took 72 hours to get over
  • Went to buy a baby gift for Freja, was asked if he was going to be a dad, panicked and told them he was pregnant
  • Tried to hide under the stairs as a prank, snapped Dan's hand crafted tree thingy in half
  • Decided to christen the bed as well as the wall, but knocked over a candle and set fire to the bedroom curtain
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I'm loving the theory of a proposal being the incident he needs to get over, combined with the perfect timing of Dan's tweet. But for something slightly more likely I'mma have to go with Phil giving himself a black eye with a kitchen cupboard and that's why he hasn't been showing his face anywhere.
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shan wrote: Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:25 am I'm loving the theory of a proposal being the incident he needs to get over, combined with the perfect timing of Dan's tweet. But for something slightly more likely I'mma have to go with Phil giving himself a black eye with a kitchen cupboard and that's why he hasn't been showing his face anywhere.
oh shit I didn't think of this- Phil trying to dye his hair blonde in his post-moving crisis twink breakdown and failed spectacularly
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lmaooo FUCK this just makes me want to see every one of those 200 picture sheets
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alittledizzy wrote: Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:34 pm lmaooo FUCK this just makes me want to see every one of those 200 picture sheets
Bless this person for posting those photos :stan:

The bottom row are now among my favourite photos of DnP ever. Absolute perfection.
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kavat wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:00 pm Yes, Phil video when, I NEED to know what the new filming background looks like!
I'm actually hoping/wishing that he's going to use the move as a opportunity to mix things up, but I feel like likely it'll be the same shelf + chair just in a new room.
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Some fun replies from the tweet
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Yayyy this was all I wanted from this year, a joint selfie on Dan's page. Love the matching outfits, so adorable <3
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Interior design opinions:

- Kinda basic, just like them :lilheart: Anyone expecting something else was lying themselves.
- THE PIANO WOW
- They're gonna regret that textured feature wall cause that shit gets dusty as hell.
- White couches belong on porn sets... and not near Phil's clumsy ass.

Not interior design opinions:

I'm really happy for them :rainbowtears:
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