Dan & Phil Part 102: crisis twinks

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alittledizzy wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 9:58 pm So how about abut those houseplants Dan and Phil have? :cactus: They sure do have some houseplants. Lots of them. Maybe Dan will do a houseplant tour soon! We had Phil's from a while back, it's Dan's turn to show off those babies they've worked so hard to keep alive.
Have you been missing Loki, the crispy dude? :lol:

But seriously, where are they today? Damn them for getting me used to them being so active online again. Can they just tweet and be gay so I can applaud again? Feel like I didn’t do that enough yesterday.
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I'm so down for an updated house plant tour. Dan would get to memorialise their plants before he goes on tour and inevitably loses several dudes to crispiness AND we would probably get to see more of the house! That and a candle tour is the Dan content I need. He did mention he was turning the insta tour questions into a video, I wonder when he'll be uploading that?
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It will be very interesting to see what kind of frequency of uploads we'll get from dan. It was quite sparse before he left so I have no idea.

On another note, I miss phil. I'm starving for a main channel video. Even a short. Something!
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I hope Phil's relaxing in Florida with lots of sunshine and cocktails by the pool, with the occasional tidbit of gathering content to share some of when he gets back. Not that he has to, but it would be nice :D

And can't wait for Dan's Q&A when he gets to it!
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My guess is that the radio silence yesterday means they both got back home... I mean I'm sure if it's true Phil will still continue to post pics as if he were in Florida. That or he'll just be like "back in London!" with no prior indication.
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Morganaa wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 2:52 am [...]when that person constantly needs to remind EVERYONE they were strugglin with mental health and also has to keep repeating EVERY. SNGLE. TIME. that they're gay, makin it some sort of huge accomplishment (while aso sayin that was a major source of these problem - to the point I feel like he's just searchin for attention and hundreds of post strokin his ego so he can feel better... sometimes I think some gays think they're better than everyone else coz they're gay, like it really mattered that much).
can't speak for all The Gays™, but I absolutely think I'm better than everyone else bc of my incredible lesbian-ness. my personal history dealing with emotionally tramatic and physically violent homophobia makes me cool and sexy.



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In realness tho, the whole *talking about mental health stuff is only for attention* thing is damaging. The community I was raised in views things like therapy, psychiatry, and mental health struggles in general as very taboo, something only weak people struggle with, that it's not something "good" people or "normal" people have.

it's what caused me to not seek help when I entered my first bipolar/manic episode despite being lucid enough at the beginning to know something was feeling wrong. it took until a series of events when I started hearing voices for people in my life to realize this wasn't something that'd go away if I powered through, but by then it was too late, and I got stuck with a 5150 after narrowly cheating death.

normalize talking about mental health will save lives. dan sharing what he did will make people who feel stuck in similar mental spaces feel less alone, be more likely to seek help and talk to loved ones about it, and see that there's a chance things might be brighter

I understand you feel like no one cared about your struggles so you don't have a reason to care about others. I'm so sorry the people in your life failed you and made you feel isolated.

I feel for you, sometimes I get like that too, feel so angry about how unfair the world is. But me personally, I can't allow myself to stay in that anger too long or else I spiral into an awful, isolated mess. Humans are a communal people, we have empathy, it's natural to see someone struggling and feel for them, even when we've faced something objectively worse than they have.

That's what most people on idb are doing. we've all got one thing in commone--an interest in D&P--so we see Dan talk about his mental health and we relate it to our own experiences, realize he went through a very awful thing, and hope he's headed towards a better place because it doesn't matter if he has an easier time than us, no one deserves to suffer and I, personally, don't like to see people suffer, especially people like dan who has always proven himself to be, despite his faults, a kind person.

it's not that you have an unpopular opinion or that people here don't like to see dissenting opinions... on the contrary, idb has a great track record of... let's call it spirited debate :) it's that from your posts, it feels like you're dismissive of his mental health, and you're very much downplaying the pain he carries from years of tramatic, violent homophobia. It feels like you're saying Dan should keep his struggles to himself, that people have it worse so he shouldn't expect people to care, that he's overreacting and by posting his video he's showing an inflated sense of ego, and that by sharing his objectively shitty experience he's simply seeking attention. maybe you don't mean to say all that, but that's how your posts come across and it's very understandable for ppl to bristle.

I'll admit, unless he's holding out on something big I'd probably beat Dan in the trauma olympics, but I still feel sympathetic because I don't like seeing people hurt. plus I've been a fan of dan for a long time, am invested in him as a person, and it sucks to see someone you feel connected to (even if just as a fan) be in pain.
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One minute in and wow, I haven't seen Dan this casual and relaxed...ever?
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Dan does like to buy himself flowers:
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Loved that q&a! Dan seems so chill and like he’s really being himself. I’m excited for the show in September and he definitely is too.
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I'm really gonna have to get used to Dan posting content again because who the hell is this guy in my subscription box??

This video definitely had those oldskool liveshow vibes, but less defensive and a lot more horny. And in a nicely compact 12 minutes!

Heartbroken by him having forgotten about the time he and Phil encountered De Cocksdorp (typo in the question there) on GeoGuessr </3
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Chill, fairly unfiltered and comfortable Dan is my favorite. I always loved his liveshows and this will fill that void in my heart for a while. He's great when he does his high concept perfected videos, but there's just something special when he lets down his guard and just let himself make dumb jokes and go on tangents (great to know the moon aesthetic is alive and well).
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The background of the picture with the white roses reminds so much of their old-old place! Same poster, same table, same sofa!

Loved this video - although I enjoyed it while also feeling a tiny bit of disappointment in not seeing/hearing anything about Phil. I love them together - in that, they make me laugh a lot when they're together.

Anyhow, I am more and more tempted to get some tickets and perhaps get to know some of you guys! That question around being old/awkward definitely made me want it more.
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sorry if this is a humble brag but wow he really answered BOTH of my questions??????? i will revel in this parasocial interaction just a little :rainbowtears:
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I got a goofy smile on my face when Dan held up a mug and a bowl and said "do you like the minimal matching bowl and *spoon*?" It's the return of the endearing word flubs! He's back, baby!
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I loved the video. I had my old “Dan and Phil are my loves” grin on my face the whole time. Solidarity with Dan’s casual tshirt, I have a few faves cos they’re a lightweight looser fit too. The flowers, I remember the time he did that before. The spoon that was actually a mug, lol. Wow, leaving Phil at home for 6 months. Good luck indeed, houseplants. And a sneaky glimpse of a lava lamp in the corner when he panned to the left. Same from Phil’s videos? I’ve always loved that mirror, and he still has the pale shimmery rug and the steely-grey curved chair.

I’ve been looking at houses and was surprised how much I love magnolia and white. I used to like dark wooden stuff like one bookcase and desk, also a pine desk and bedside table, and that’s enough pine and mahogany-effect for me, no more gothic woods or knotty patterns please. I’m not overly into chrome and glass either, but Dan’s grey theme is nice. Ech0ist/Cavern Kingston (aka/no longer called PetesJams, srsly that man has enough names for his music vs vibes and asmr content) did a video in his bedroom a while ago and the grey theme he has is gorgeous too. He lives in a van somewhat now.
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Lucy Moon very briefly discuss Dan's vid in her newest video. Basically she says she liked it, found the first part very relatable, thought the second part should have been a separate video, and says that it reiterated for her that content creators need to always be working in different platforms and projects because you can't pin all your career goals on one idea and on one platform.

Starts about 4:20.

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I hadn't seen that "PornHub" looking poster before 🤣 have there been any other cringey tour posters that were made by the venue's!
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Sarah's recent ig post includes a pic with Dan at the MCR concert.
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I wonder if he wore that scarf over his face all day not to get recognized. He could have just worn a black face mask like a normal person but no, he wanted to look like he was robbing a bank
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Morganaa wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 2:52 am
I also pretty much see his "tactless" and "dismissive" point of view(although I have not watched the whole video, I feel like it's either a little exaggerated or he's made these comments later on...)
but if he was tactless and dismissive, well, I totally understand why - mainly because I feel like it myself. I said that before, but imma repeat - I don't feel sorry for him at all. and that's because we don't really know how it all went out like. everybody will victimize themselves, while it's very unlikely the whole guilt lays just at one side. what one person says, in cases like this is pretty much.... I'm sorry, useless, especially when that person constantly needs to remind EVERYONE they were strugglin with mental health and also has to keep repeating EVERY. SNGLE. TIME. that they're gay, makin it some sort of huge accomplishment (while aso sayin that was a major source of these problem - to the point I feel like he's just searchin for attention and hundreds of post strokin his ego so he can feel better... sometimes I think some gays think they're better than everyone else coz they're gay, like it really mattered that much). after his sad story he anounces' tour with prices as if he indeed was some A-list celebrity and even came back to postin to get people to buy tickets to see him tryin to be a comedian(I personally find it very weird that people think he's funny... I don't think he's a standup comedian material at all, but berhaps I just don't understand British millennial humor)... and to me this is a obvious try at money grab, after 4 years of radio silence and I heavily think that after the tour everything will be back to normal... meanin a Twitter post once a month.
yes, I'm very pessimistic, and I can't help it. I think this is a very shitty move(not their first one) and only time may slightly change my mind.
I stopped postin because my views are too different for a forum full of hardcore fans, but I don't see why can't somebody be dissmisive for once in a reaction video, and not think he deserves standin ovation, like everyone else does.
Hi!

LONG time lurker here, like really, since way back on guru gossip before this place even existed. I don't normally lurk here anymore, since I don't really watch deppy now, but I have checked in here sometimes to see what Dan and Phil are up to - I do wish them all the best, even though I personally don't find them that entertaining anymore.

However when I read this post I literally held my breath - I can't remember ever reading such a unapologetic and straightforward opinion of this type on this forum EVER. It was such breath of frech air I almost couldn't believe it! I don't agree with all of it (I mean I almost never do agree with everything anybody is saying) but overall I kind of had the same feelings about Dan (though probably not quite as strongly) when I used to watch them. So I felt I simply HAD to make a post agreeing with it it because I can't imagine many other peaple here will. You Morganaa are one seriously brave individual! Kodus!

Anyway, I probably won't be back here much now. (Maybe I really got IDB out of my system now?) So thanks everybody for all the fun I've had here over the years! Cheers!
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flarequake wrote: Sun May 22, 2022 10:17 am I loved the video. I had my old “Dan and Phil are my loves” grin on my face the whole time. Solidarity with Dan’s casual tshirt, I have a few faves cos they’re a lightweight looser fit too. The flowers, I remember the time he did that before. The spoon that was actually a mug, lol. Wow, leaving Phil at home for 6 months. Good luck indeed, houseplants. And a sneaky glimpse of a lava lamp in the corner when he panned to the left. Same from Phil’s videos? I’ve always loved that mirror, and he still has the pale shimmery rug and the steely-grey curved chair.
I love that phrasing - the "Dan and Phil are my loves" grin totally sums it up for me too. I loved everything about the video, the casualness of him, the liveshow vibes, the lack of extreme editing. He left in the word slips and misreads.

The only thing I'm desperately curious about is that one that he cut the name off of!
Megancita75 wrote: Sun May 22, 2022 6:17 pm Lucy Moon very briefly discuss Dan's vid in her newest video. Basically she says she liked it, found the first part very relatable, thought the second part should have been a separate video, and says that it reiterated for her that content creators need to always be working in different platforms and projects because you can't pin all your career goals on one idea and on one platform.

Starts about 4:20.

I love her being thoughtful and discussing it. I saw the instagram comments and all of the variety of comments she got. I would love to have been a fly on the wall for some of the conversations she had with other creators. The fact that the end made her feel sad, too - it's such a contrast between Ben and Cristine discussing it. Lucy is talking about it with a bit of criticism toward Dan putting all of his eggs into the youtube basket but without seeming quite so unfeeling toward him.

Dan has definitely never been a creator to put himself out there on multiple platforms. It's hard enough for him to make himself vulnerable and put himself out there on one. But I wonder if him wanting to bring liveshows back in some way is part of that? I mean if he pulled a PJ and did try to do some chill Twitch streams gaming - even if he did them in Dan style and made them much shorter than most Twitch streamers run - then I think he could manage to build a solid following there that's apart from youtube.
Levitating wrote: Sat May 21, 2022 8:58 pm Loved this video - although I enjoyed it while also feeling a tiny bit of disappointment in not seeing/hearing anything about Phil. I love them together - in that, they make me laugh a lot when they're together.
I think there's definitely joint content coming our way. Dan and Phil must have had a discussion about Phil dropping into the background for a while to let Dan have all of the audience's focus - since obviously they share an audience these decisions are undoubtedly made together. But all of the lack of Phil is really making me excited for his return and that joint video whenever it comes!!
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I just had a thought that Dan might do podcast appearances around promoting the tour and got happy to look forward to that. Hearing anybody on a press tour gets very samey after a while, but he does loosen up when talking with the right host.
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literally_formless wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 3:03 pm I just had a thought that Dan might do podcast appearances around promoting the tour and got happy to look forward to that. Hearing anybody on a press tour gets very samey after a while, but he does loosen up when talking with the right host.
I'm praying to all that's holy that somehow he could get john and/or hank green to interview him to promote the tour! I agree with you wholeheartedly about the right host. dan puts on such a persona during the book tour but the one talk he had with john was so wholesome, i'd love that for him (and us) again. :prideheart2:
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