Dan & Phil Part 5: Dan & Phil Lester

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...how does one...attend school...and keep up with this forum

I'm feeling kinda bad about this but if I ever came across Dan and/or Phil I'd either 1) question my perception of reality and do nothing or 2) take the chance and skip the whole thinking process, probably also chasing Dan into an alley. Honestly, I don't know how Dan sees it but a single, probably a bit disoriented girl following him into an alley and awkwardly asking for a photograph is probably a lot easier to handle than 30 screaming fans in front of the BBC. Also, I'm loving the hashtag. Complaining about the phandom is probably up there in my top 15 freetime activities but I actually think the Twitter part of the Phandom is pretty chill. It's YouTube and Tumblr where shit goes down.
spaceguitar wrote:Anyone ever feel like we should have separate Dan and Phil threads?
I'm pretty sure someone suggested this agees ago on... that other website and it's imo close to impossible to do.
I mean, Deppy themselves hardly manage to not mention the other for a single liveshow, tweet or even a video.
Buy one, get one for free, you know.
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Oh shit why are we on a new thread already I'm so behind :shock:
This is not relevant to anything being discussed probably, but look at Felix's likes on YT :
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I hope he appreciated Dan & .

He also liked their 7Sec challenge video (not even the YT one he was in but the one on Phil's channel hmm) and their Realistic Sports game, but he was in that one. Most of his likes are his own videos and other gaming things. Actually hey there's a teabagging mention, so I'm almost on topic for recent convos..

Also this made me laugh and I somehow missed it when it happened:
To pretend that was remotely ontopic: Remember when D&P were in Japan, good times.

Anyway I'll go catch up properly now.
Thanks and have a great day! Oil me
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human wrote:Hahahaa oh god. I swear, I saw the new thread title and stared at it for a while and was like, "what's funny about that? Who voted for that, that's just their NAMES" and it took me MINUTES to notice. Crazy.
Saaame!

Dan vs. Phil:
Pfft, thank god the last thread is over.

- people discuss Phil's video(s) over several pages
- daphenaxa gives a well thought-out critical opinion on the Hazel/Phil collab
- alittledizzy writes the coolest analytical post about interesting aspects of the collab
- no other Phil fans engage with those posts in any sort of way
- WAAAH THIS THREAD IS DAN-CENTRIC!!
- FORGET THE VIDEOS, LET'S SPEND THE NEXT 5 PAGES TALKING ABOUT PHIL NOT GETTING ATTENTION!!1

me: "..... :sideeye: "

Of course there's no bloody Phil discussion if people get offended and shut the discussion down everytime his name is mentioned or he's discussed in the "wrong" way. The sheer IRONY of self-proclaimed Phil fans turning every potential Phil discussion into a discussion about Dan fans vs. Phil fans - it is mindblowing. And honestly it's making me not want to discuss Phil as much because there's always a fight when you do, and when there's not a fight no one cares.
ironic wrote:Anyway if you want to talk more about Phil, why don't you just do it instead of expecting other people to express what you're thinking?
^ this
fakelights wrote:the people who complain don't bring out the conversation. I know I'm one of them so I don't get too mad, but I notice that when someone tries to start a conversation on Phil it usually doesn't go on for long, so I don't get really encouraged...
^ but also this :|
Anyway. Let's talk about Phil, yolo. Something that stuck out to me. Phil's posted 6 videos on his channel so far this year - and 4 of them have been collabs(!). The only Phil-on-his-own videos have been him reacting to his baby videos and the sleepless night. Huh. Wonder if he'll upload a new AP video before the Louise collab or if his next video will also be a collab...? Social Phil.

Theory:
I've sort of been feeling like the tour stress finally caught up with Phil during the second half of 2015 sometime, just not in a very obvious way. Looking at Dan's channel I think most of us can agree his quality dropped around the start of 2015 and he also started uploading less, but imo Phil's channel seemed very unaffected for a long time...? I remember him having lots of great videos the first half of 2015 that I really enjoyed (personal faves: Punk Edits, Phil in the Club, Easter baking, Japhan DITL, I Destroyed My House) and many of them seemed like they'd take some proper planning and/or actual thought to pull off. But then later that year there were a lot of challenges and a few videos like The Contact Lens Incident and Phil reading his old diary that just felt sort of... sub-par. Like the ideas were good but he could have put a lot more effort into the execution of them (compare his diary-reading, where he's legit just reading from the book, to his older videos reading his chat logs where he plays all the characters). I like to think that that's the touring finally taking its toll on Phil's channel.

I have not been feeling that way about 2016 Phil. I don't think his videos have been sub-par this year. But I do think they all seem to be a bit lower-effort. Collabs are famously easy content, and his other 2 videos have been a reaction video and what's basically a vlog. Low-effort content during a busy time of his life, yeah? Smart decision, if it's a conscious one, because it makes it less noticable that he's strapped for time/energy right now. Like I agree with daphenaxa about the Hazel collab being very unplanned, but personally I didn't mind that it was because I still enjoyed it as a collab and as the two of them hanging out and having bants, you know?

Here is Phil's video output over the years for comparison purposes:
disclaimer 1: the videos we know about, that is. he's deleted a lot of videos.
disclaimer 2: no point in even doing 2006-2008, way too many deleted videos.


2009
> 42 videos
Two Thousand and Nine (6 Jan 2009)
AmazingPhil Big Brother Audition (13 Jan 2009)
No Sleep (20 Jan 2009)
CAT FACE (25 Jan 2009)
I found a slinky (1 Feb 2009)
Robot death machine (10 Feb 2009)
A Static Lullaby - Toxic (Britney Spears cover) (21 Feb 2009) originally named TOXIC LION
Ghost Ferret (3 March 2009)
ZOO DAY (14 March 2009)
I was hypnotized! (23 March 2009)
Philorida (30 March 2009)
Sea Badger (9 April 2009)
Old Photo (16 April 2009) LessAP
Alarm. (22 April 2009)
SNOW (29 April 2009) LessAP
☠ (30 April 2009) LessAP
I was kidnapped. (15 May 2009)
AmazingJason (26 May 2009)
INTERACTIVE SPACE ADVENTURE - START HERE! (11 June 2009)
AmazingAlex (25 June 2009)
HAYFEVER SUCKS! (12 July 2009) originally named POLLEN
Dog vs Lobster (16 July 2009) originally named HP You On You: Dog vs Lobster
cat ears (6 Aug 2009)
space maze (21 Aug 2009) LessAP
Burning Walrus (24 Aug 2009)
Bradley (22 Sept 2009) (thumbnail)
Moved home! (23 Sept 2009) LessAP
Lick my soap (24 Sept 2009) LessAP
Cola bottle saliva (25 Sept 2009)
Flashing Images (25 Sept 2009)
horses are wrong (26 Sept 2009)
zebra (27 Sept 2009)
QUICKFIRE (30 Sept 2009)
PARANORMAL ACTIVITY (17 Oct 2009)
Life without the internet!? (23 Oct 2009)
phil is not on fire (25 Oct 2009)
I like fire and petrol (5 Nov 2009)
Dreams of the Future (22 Nov 2009)
Phillippa (28 Nov 2009)
Captain Stress Relief! (5 Dec 2009)
❆ I WANT SNOW! ❆ (12 Dec 2009)
INTERACTIVE CHRISTMAS ADVENTURE - START HERE! (27 Dec 2009)
2010
> 37 videos (well, 36 really, if you don't count voldy *cough*)
ZOMG RED PANDA!!? (23 Jan 2010)
:3 (13 Feb 2010) LessAP (vday vid) (doesn't count as a legit upload I guess, lol)
Worst Birthday EVER!! (15 Feb 2010)
My fish died :( (1 March 2010)
I microwaved a peep (12 March 2010)
IF I RULED THE INTERNET… (18 March 2010)
HELP! D: (prizes!!) (28 March 2010)
YOU!? (29 March 2010)
OHai (30 March 2010) LessAP
VIDEO COMPETITION!?! :D (8 April 2010)
BOAT APOCALYPSE (14 April 2010)
Swine Flu (6 May 2010) originally named Sea Panther
AmazingPhil T4 Audition (7 May 2010) LessAP
United States of Phil (19 May 2010)
Phil is not on fire 2 (28 May 2010)
We The Kings - Check Yes Juliet (Day in the life of Phil) (8 June 2010) originally named A day in the life of Phil
I am in LA! Xbox Keynote (16 June 2010) LessAP
World’s Biggest Chip?! (23 June 2010)
PRIZES (8 July 2010) LessAP
Edward Cullen Wasp Attack?! (9 July 2010)
Which Deadly Animal Are You?! | INTERACTIVE QUIZ! (23 July 2010)
Underwater Lion Roar (1 Aug 2010) LessAP
The Lion Of Inflatable Destiny - INTERACTIVE! (7 Aug 2010)
Viewer Mail! (30 Aug 2010) LessAP
Viewer Mail - Louder! (30 Aug 2010) LessAP
The Jellybean Centipede (1 Sept 2010)
I ate Mario. (18 Sept 2010)
SUPERNOTE 2010 (4 Oct 2010) LessAP
SIDEWAYS GARY (5 Oct 2010)
Crash Bandicoot (5 Oct 2010) LessAP
HELL DEMON (20 Oct 2010) LessAP
Blindfolded Cat Face Game (25 Oct 2010)
Phil and Dan get down! ★ ゲッダン (30 Oct 2010)
KILLER ESCALATOR! (13 Nov 2010)
Pez (6 Dec 2010) originally named Pez (。◕‿‿◕。)
THE TREE (19 Dec 2010)
Mystery Christmas Present Cave! (24 Dec 2010)
2011
> 36 videos
I AM GOD. (22 Jan 2011)
DEEP SEA CREATURES! (31 Jan 2011) originally named Prawnography
Feeling flirty! (10 Feb 2011)
Amailing Phil (2 March 2011) ]LessAP
Hover zebra (5 March 2011)
WINNERS (5 March 2011) LessAP
My American Accent (22 March 2011)
BEAR HUNT! (6 April 2011)
Pocky! (19 April 2011) originally named T-SHIRTS! Pocky! & other adventures
R.I.P. Simon (4 May 2011) originally named RIP Simon
Nyan bear! - Phil Mail 3 (5 May 2011) LessAP
I survived the Rapture (21 May 2011)
ANIMAL BEATBOX! - Interactive (3 June 2011)
Totoro Winners! (5 June 2011) LessAP
I smell like a girl.. (25 June 2011)
Evil Twin!! (13 July 2011)
Epic Love Fail! (1 Aug 2011) originally named Epic Love Fail! ft. Mr. Bump
Living with Robert Pattinson (10 Aug 2011)
Speaking Fail (10 Aug 2011) LessAP
Gay alien babies (29 Aug 2011)
Spin the bottle! (8 Sept 2011)
★ Story Game! ✩ (23 Sept 2011)
Galactic Sloths (23 Sept 2011) LessAP
Whale King (23 Sept 2011) LessAP
DOG-A-LIKES! (7 Oct 2011)
Incredible Lion Footage (18 Oct 2011)
Phil is not on fire 3 (1 Nov 2011)
THE HOLY MOTHER! | AmazingPhil (18 Nov 2011) originally named STAR WARS CHICKEN!
I DRANK EGGNOG! (29 Nov 2011)
BONUS PHIL MAIL 3.5! (6 Dec 2011)
PHIL MAIL 4 (6 Dec 2011) LessAP
EPIC JAPANESE CANDY TIME! (15 Dec 2011)
Kracie - Popin' Cookin' Mystery Flavor DIY Sushi (15 Dec 2011) LessAP
PROJECT FOR AWESOME 2011!! somewhereto_ (17 Dec 2011)
How to make Christmas cookies! (22 Dec 2011)
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT! (25 Dec 2011)
2012
> 40 videos
BANANA! (7 Jan 2012)
How will you die in 2012?! | INTERACTIVE QUIZ! (19 Jan 2012)
Justin Bieber 2012 Calendar! (Phil Mail 5) (24 Jan 2012) LessAP
LETTERZ (25 Jan 2012)
FANK YOUU (30 Jan 2012) LessAP
Things I thought were true that are not true. (31 Jan 2012)
My First Date! (15 Feb 2012)
Why I was a weird kid! (26 Feb 2012)
TOTORO HAT! (Phil mail 6) (6 March 2012) LessAP
A to Z of Me! (12 March 2012)
Worst Accent EVER! (13 March 2012)
Mystery Caller!? (14 March 2012) LessAP
The Hunger Games (and gay shoe marriage) (15 March 2012)
A Day in the Life of Phil and Dan! (17 March 2012)
KILL PHIL! (4 April 2012)
Caught with my zipper down! (15 April 2012)
New member of One Direction?! (29 April 2012)
Terrifying baby woman! (3 May 2012) LessAP
AmazingPhil Next Vlogger (6 May 2012)
Things I thought were true that are not true 2! (12 May 2012)
But what’s the catch?! (23 May 2012)
I SLEEPWALKED! (1 June 2012)
THE BEST GAME EVER! (15 June 2012)
The Awkward Spa Experience! (29 June 2012)
THE CHANGE (13 July 2012)
THE WARDROBE (30 July 2012)
WALTER (15 Aug 2012)
My Chat Logs (27 Aug 2012)
SPACE FOOD! (Final Mail!) (7 Sept 2012) LessAP
QUESTIONS! and pickled shark (10 Sept 2012) LessAP
Phil is not on fire 4 (12 Sept 2012)
MAN FLU! (26 Sept 2012)
INNUENDO BINGO 2! (2 Oct 2012)
One Direction Animal Impressions! (18 Oct 2012)
Smoking Fail! (22 Oct 2012)
Halloween Baking: Brownie Graveyard! (30 Oct 2012)
The Breakup (14 Nov 2012)
I don’t like cheese! (27 Nov 2012)
Phil learns to sing! (9 Dec 2012)
HO HO HO (25 Dec 2012)
2013
> 29 videos
THE ATTIC (2 Jan 2013)
Why I was a weird kid 2! (17 Jan 2013)
Draw My Life | AmazingPhil (1 Feb 2013)
MY FIRST POPTART! (19 Feb 2013)
One Second. (7 March 2013)
TOILET TAG (21 March 2013)
LOST AT THE MALL! ;_; (5 April 2013)
THE KOOL KATZ (24 April 2013)
HAIR MODEL! (7 May 2013)
Phil & Dan in NEW YORK! (18 May 2013)
My Chat Logs 2! (5 June 2013)
Phil the lion! (14 June 2013)
My Tumblr Tag! (1 July 2013)
1,000,000 Subscribers! THE SECRET VIDEO (17 July 2013)
MEET MY MUM! (26 July 2013)
I HAVE JET LAG! ;_; (10 Aug 2013)
A Day in the Life of Dan and Phil in London! (27 Aug 2013)
My Body Sucks! (18 Sept 2013)
Channel Trailer! (23 Sept 2013)
Dyeing My Hair Blue! (30 Sept 2013)
EUROPEAN MEET-UP ADVENTURE! (18 Oct 2013)
GHOST STORY GAME! (29 Oct 2013)
THE ABDUCTION (30 Oct 2013) LessAP
Z - DAY! (31 Oct 2013) LessAP
FIREWORKS FAIL! (1 Nov 2013)
Animal Crossing Ruined My Life! (14 Nov 2013)
Phil is not on fire 5 (22 Nov 2013)
My Google Search History (12 Dec 2013)
Christmas Charades with Louise! (19 Dec 2013)
2014
> 41 videos
Kissing a Plasma Ball! (11 Jan 2014)
Why I was a weird kid 3! (24 Jan 2014)
How To Speak Australian (With Kylie Minogue!) (6 Feb 2014)
Trapped in my Jeans! (22 Feb 2014)
My Childhood Horror Movie! (8 March 2014)
Phil Reacts to Childhood Horror Movie! (9 March 2014)
The 7 Second CHALLENGE! (with KickThePj) (19 March 2014)
STUCK ON A ROLLERCOASTER (4 April 2014)
I GOT ATTACKED BY A SQUIRREL (25 April 2014)
Dan tries caviar! (27 April 2014) LessAP
My Secret Files! (9 May 2014)
Stop looking at my spot! (23 May 2014)
SHOCKING AmazingPhil footage! (31 May 2014) LessAP
Phil’s Favourites | POO-POURRI! (5 June 2014)
CAT CAFÉ!! (7 June 2014) LessAP
Dan and Phil LICK RACE(16 June 2014)
What’s in my suitcase?! (25 June 2014)
Phil the Lion vs. Dan the Dinosaur! - WATER RACE (4 July 2014)
Eating Play-Doh! (with Phil & Jim) (14 July 2014)
How NOT to meet Emma Watson (26 July 2014)
I’M SORRY! (14 Aug 2014)
Thing I thought were true that are not true 3! (30 Aug 2014)
How To Make Dan Cringe (3 Sept 2014) LessAP
Welcome! (8 Sept 2014)
Thank you! (8 Sept 2014)
SOMETHING NEW ?! (12 Sept 2014)
MY TUMBLR TAG 2! (with Dan) (15 Sept 2014)
Crazy static electricity beam (daytime!) (19 Sept 2014) LessAP originally named A HAIR-RAISING EXPERIENCE
OPTICIAN HORROR STORY (29 Sept 2014)
Tour Of My Brain | AmazingPhil (17 Oct 2014)
Night Of The Drill Goat (25 Oct 2014) LessAP
Halloween Baking - SPOOKY CUPCAKES (26 Oct 2014)
sPOOPy (5 Nov 2014)
Phil is not on fire 6 (6 Nov 2014)
The Dan and Phil ADVENT CALENDAR (17 Nov 2014)
Reacting to Old Photos! (24 Nov 2014)
CHRISTMAS MERCH!! (5 Dec 2014)
I SMASHED 3 MIRRORS (9 Dec 2014)
Christmas One Word Story Game! (17 Dec 2014)
HAPPY NEW YEAR! (17 Dec 2014)
A Festive Day in the Life of Dan and Phil! (20 Dec 2014)
2015
> 33 videos
I’M IN A MOVIE! (10 Jan 2015)
Dan and Phil PUNK EDITS IN REAL LIFE! (24 Jan 2015)
ZZZZ (28 Jan 2015)
THE NOT-MILK CHALLENGE (15 Feb 2015)
Ring Ring Roulette 2! (15 Feb 2015)
THANKS! (2 March 2015)
PHIL IN THE CLUB (3 March 2015)
^-^ (12 March 2015)
A Sleepless Night With Phil (21 March 2015)
!!!RRR!!! (1 April 2015)
Easter Baking - EXTREME TRIPLE CHOCOLATE NESTS (4 April 2015)
A Day in the Life of Dan and Phil in JAPAN! (22 April)
1000 YEN ($10) LUCKY DIP VENDING MACHINE! (3 May 2015) LessAP
DAN AND PHIL JAPAN HAUL! (3 May 2015)
I DESTROYED MY HOUSE (26 May 2015)
SHOCKING LIE DETECTOR! (with Connor and Phil) (5 June 2015)
KINETIC SAND (7 June 2015) LessAP
Phil Reacts to His Old Videos (22 June 2015)
THE CHEESE CHALLENGE (13 July 2015)
The 7 Second Challenge APP! (6 Aug 2015)
DAN AND PHIL SHOP ‘END OF SUMMER/CLASS IS STARTING AGAIN AHHH’ COLLECTION (22 Aug 2015)
Phil and Tyler’s MIRACLE BERRY TASTE TEST! (24 Aug 2015)
PHIL LESTER VS. PRAYING MANTIS (14 Sept 2015) LessAP
THE CONTACT LENS INCIDENT (16 Sept 2015)
TUMBLR TAG 3! (With Dan) (3 Oct 2015)
Reading My Old Diary! (13 Oct 2015)
BUCKET OF DOOM with Cat and a Demon (27 Oct 2015)
The A-Z of Phil (Behind the scenes of the TABINOF Audiobook!) (14 Nov 2015) LessAP
Dan and Phil Merch EXPLOSION (18 Nov 2015)
6 Things I Regret Buying! (19 Nov 2015)
Phil is not on fire 7 (29 Nov 2015)
The Hand - A Dan and Phil Fan Fiction by Phil Lester (8 Dec 2015)
WOULD PHIL SURVIVE THIS ANIME? (14th Dec 2015)
2016
> 6 videos so far
Reacting to my Baby Videos! (7 Jan 2016)
THE FUTURE QUIZ! (with KickThePj) (24 Jan 2016)
Another Sleepness Night with Phil (16 Feb 2016)
THE FACE SWAP CHALLENGE (9 March 2016)
CASPAR JOINS THE PHILLUMINATI (21 March 2016)
BRITISH BOY AND IRISH GIRL GUESS AMERICAN STATES (11 April 2016)
majitzu wrote:Do some of you wanna join the Martyn Lester fan club?
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ALL I WISH FOR this tour is for some footage of Dan and Phil hanging out with Martyn and Cornelia.
All I wish for.

Lol this one is pretty much Dan + Phil humour summarized in a single tweet:
dat veniam corvis, vexat censura columbas

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Speaking of Dan coming to the states soon, do you think that Phil will meet him in the airport or he'll just get a taxi to the hotel. I just had an adorable image of a #phanreuinion in the airport ( in private obviously ). Let's be real. That won't happen, but still...

Can you tell I'm hard up for some content? Quick! Someone call the tumblr phanfic writers.
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Thanks Martyn, more photos please. The house they are is the same of the "lost in the mall" video?

Can i get a Phil in the pool photo?
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#WhyWasDanInTheAlley
Is it possible the entrance to their flat is in an alley? That was my first thought and would explain why his reaction to the girl was 'wtf' if he thought she stalked him to his home. Then again that's probably the normal response to someone chasing him into an alley so maybe not.
everyone who voted for my thread title. Was away and didn't get to vote for it myself. That's 2 in a row :o You guys spoil me.
human wrote:Hahahaa oh god. I swear, I saw the new thread title and stared at it for a while and was like, "what's funny about that? Who voted for that, that's just their NAMES" and it took me MINUTES to notice. Crazy.
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Sorry, I’m a bit of a lurker, came here recently through a link because I skulk around Tumblr, it’s kind of my hobby, as you do. I love the discussion on this website by actual mature people, I’m not exactly young and love a conversation that isn’t “Heart Eyes Howell”, etc. Bear with me while I try to figure out the logistics of the layout here.

I totally agree with the topic of most conversation being “Dan-centric”. This definitely isn’t old news but one thing that irks me about their videos together is when Dan takes control with his screaming and shouting. I love Dan and all but sometimes I want to put a gag on him for a few minutes so Phil can have a say. I mean not everyone is a big fan of the “AmazingPhil” persona but I admire his subtlety and much quieter nature. “YouTube Personalities” (Christ) are often overzealous and fake and I hate seeing their dynamic slip into this with loud noises and Dan’s “this guy” embellishments every five seconds.
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felucca wrote:
Anyway. Let's talk about Phil, yolo. Something that stuck out to me. Phil's posted 6 videos on his channel so far this year - and 4 of them have been collabs(!). The only Phil-on-his-own videos have been him reacting to his baby videos and the sleepless night. Huh. Wonder if he'll upload a new AP video before the Louise collab or if his next video will also be a collab...? Social Phil.

Theory:
I've sort of been feeling like the tour stress finally caught up with Phil during the second half of 2015 sometime, just not in a very obvious way. Looking at Dan's channel I think most of us can agree his quality dropped around the start of 2015 and he also started uploading less, but imo Phil's channel seemed very unaffected for a long time...? I remember him having lots of great videos the first half of 2015 that I really enjoyed (personal faves: Punk Edits, Phil in the Club, Easter baking, Japhan DITL, I Destroyed My House) and many of them seemed like they'd take some proper planning and/or actual thought to pull off. But then later that year there were a lot of challenges and a few videos like The Contact Lens Incident and Phil reading his old diary that just felt sort of... sub-par. Like the ideas were good but he could have put a lot more effort into the execution of them (compare his diary-reading, where he's legit just reading from the book, to his older videos reading his chat logs where he plays all the characters). I like to think that that's the touring finally taking its toll on Phil's channel.

I have not been feeling that way about 2016 Phil. I don't think his videos have been sub-par this year. But I do think they all seem to be a bit lower-effort. Collabs are famously easy content, and his other 2 videos have been a reaction video and what's basically a vlog. Low-effort content during a busy time of his life, yeah? Smart decision, if it's a conscious one, because it makes it less noticable that he's strapped for time/energy right now. Like I agree with daphenaxa about the Hazel collab being very unplanned, but personally I didn't mind that it was because I still enjoyed it as a collab and as the two of them hanging out and having bants, you know?
Yeah I think I agree on your theory actually. And it correspond to the image of Dan and Phil that I have in my mind. Dan stresses before things. Like a lot. He stresses himself up, builds a mountain of anxiety before a task should be done but when he finally does it, he is actually a lot more comfortable. And that's what we saw during the tour where he maybe didn't upload great fantastic quality videos but where he uploaded A LOT. I think Phil is the contrary. He is more organized and rational so doesn't particularly stresses up before the tour but when he was caught up in it, it's just that he didn't have enough time to invest in his videos so they were more simple.

On the Hazel collab (or any collab really), i agree with you that it doesn't have to be that well prepared or well though if the atmosphere of the video makes up for it, with the bants and chemistry. But here it didn't do it for me because i felt neither.
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cora808 wrote:
SquishPhan wrote:
majitzu wrote:Do some of you wanna join the Martyn Lester fan club?
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I'll happily join! Those tweets are great, and right away remind me who he is related to. From what I know of them, I like the Lesters and their partners. ;)

Them Lesters seem like real good stock. Real good stock indeed.
They remind me of a pack of wolves
Often portrayed as tricksters and con artists in popular folklore, wolves have a family life that is more loyal and pious than most human relationships. Normally, packs consist of a male, a female and their offspring, essentially making wolf packs akin to a nuclear family. The older offspring even help take care of their younger siblings.

Occasionally, a lone wolf will be welcomed into a pack. A pack can range from just three or four wolves to as many as 20, depending on the food supply in the area.
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spaceminimalist wrote:"
i'm guessing he canceled bc he has a lot of editing to do ( or he's just still watching the clone wars who knows)
I FRICKING CALLED IT he just tweeted he's addicted to it, he has good taste imo
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spaceminimalist wrote:
spaceminimalist wrote:"
i'm guessing he canceled bc he has a lot of editing to do ( or he's just still watching the clone wars who knows)
I FRICKING CALLED IT he just tweeted he's addicted to it, he has good taste imo
I really love life right now. "Choke me dad" is worth a missed liveshow. Although seriously he's home and he blew it off? smh. He could have talked and packed at the same time.

edit: or he's already halfway to the US and that's a scheduled tweet to throw us off. He's not doing any responding..

edit again: I'm laughing my ass of rn imagining Phil getting this notif and just going 'jesus christ dan'
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'I'm in love with anakin skywalker' 'force choke me dad' That's as unambiguous a male attraction mention as anyone could have hoped for. Also choking kink confirmed?
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Amazing. I'm rather on board with the theory that he has decided not to give a fuck anymore. But wow, could he be more unsubtle?
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fancybum wrote: I really love life right now. "Choke me dad" is worth a missed liveshow. Although seriously he's home and he blew it off? smh. He could have talked and packed at the same time.
He could be on a flight, most have wifi on them now. I don't think he's left yet but just putting that out there. Maybe he's editing some Undertale for us hence why no liveshow, or he's still hiding out in the alley
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I guess it was the candle that attracted him initially?
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spaceguitar wrote:Amazing. I'm rather on board with the theory that he has decided not to give a fuck anymore. But wow, could he be more unsubtle?
Literally zero shits were given by him in that tweet and it brought me an unnecessary amount of joy.

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Dan tweets so much more when Phil isn't around, that makes like 4 not-video-related tweets since Phil left I think? 5 I guess if you count the liveshow one, makes me wonder a bit if these are the kind of things he'd usually just tell Phil and is tweeting instead?
I think it's kind of unlikely he's on a flight mostly because flights from the UK to the US usually leave in the morning, also he was seen in London only a couple of hours ago
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sorry i had to :lol:

Edit: maybe Dan tweets a lot when Phil isn't there because he can't have Phil check if his tweets are ok (joking)
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missemma wrote:
fancybum wrote: I really love life right now. "Choke me dad" is worth a missed liveshow. Although seriously he's home and he blew it off? smh. He could have talked and packed at the same time.
He could be on a flight, most have wifi on them now. I don't think he's left yet but just putting that out there. Maybe he's editing some Undertale for us hence why no liveshow, or he's still hiding out in the alley
If they haven't got some Undertale ready to go, he better stay in that alley... :evil:
Actually I think there's a good chance he's left already. Hoping for Florida tweets sometime tomorrow.

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bluebox-away wrote: I think it's kind of unlikely he's on a flight mostly because flights from the UK to the US usually leave in the morning, also he was seen in London only a couple of hours ago
Stop ruining my baseless theories with reason and logic.
spaceguitar wrote: But wow, could he be more unsubtle?
Hopefully.
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fancybum wrote:
spaceguitar wrote: But wow, could he be more unsubtle?
Hopefully.
Heh true.
I'm just kind of shocked at how outrightly sexual he's being. Though it is Dan i s'pose.
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Is it just me or do D+P always tweet around the same time? Like not always within 10 minutes of each other, but most of the time within the same hour.
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:lol:
Ok but seriously somebody speculate with me on what Phil's reaction is to these kinds of tweets when he's not in the same room getting a warning beforehand. He's just hanging out with his family thinking about alligators and all of a sudden 'force choke me dad' comes up on his phone. Does he laugh? Does he roll his eyes? Does he text Dan 'wyd fam'? I need to know.
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daddy kink? phallic candles?
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fancybum wrote: I really love life right now. "Choke me dad" is worth a missed liveshow. Although seriously he's home and he blew it off? smh. He could have talked and packed at the same time.

edit: or he's already halfway to the US and that's a scheduled tweet to throw us off. He's not doing any responding..

edit again: I'm laughing my ass of rn imagining Phil getting this notif and just going 'jesus christ dan'
Sweet Jesus. That is certainly a tweet that disproves the theory that someone else is running Dan's Twitter account. Kingsley also replied to it, I'm so done.
I'm sincerely hoping that Kingsley will include this tweet in next week's 'Thirsty Thursday' video.

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felucca I really enjoy your post! Also alittledizzy I always miss the big Phil discussions that are going on because of the time differences with all the users. I'm in lab/lectures all day so night is when I usually have time to discuss and by then the Phil discussion have moved on. :wahh: I'm going to go back to the ideas of Dan-centrism for a moment but you guys can ignore if your not interested:
The phandom is Dan-centric. There is no getting around that. Dan talk/sexualization is prominent in every form of social media, blog and even this forum. He is the hero/protagonist in every phanfiction and he is the core of the phandom. Phil on the other hand is represented as the savior, comforter that helped the protagonist Dan discover himself and grow. He is the more mature (already mature), closed off, private mystery man who no one truly knows. Doe he have a secret agenda? Is he manipulative? Many try to theorize what makes Phil but none really give us the truth.

I adore Phil, I have for a long time. He is fascinating to me. I find him unique in every aspect. He is strong minded, creative, funny. He is kind and amiable. He is very subtle in everything he does which makes me love him more. I crave for him to be more appreciated because he really does deserve it. The obsession with Phil getting more attention skews off the fact that society seems to favor whats acceptable or ideal. All the vloggers and YT personalities (Alfie is a huge example of this) are popular for no reason other than they represent a tangible charater in society that one can relate to.

Phil in all senses is unique and that is again shown in his youtube channel. He makes content that differs from other, his whole persona differs from others. Yes he appeals to younger people, yes he is not crude, loud, or obnoxious but he is charming nonetheless. With his mismatched socks and weird animal facts/noises he really warms my heart up. I call him an acquired taste. Once you have him you want to cherish him and talk about him for hours but others won't see it that way and that is acceptable. Our perceptions are skewed by everything including our initial feelings. I love everything he makes because I love him, I can't really be objective in that. I don't get insulted when someone else doesn't like something because I recognize that that is their opinion. I encourage Phil criticism, even you jaej (if you even read this). Felucca was right in pointing that Phil has been under stress and this has affected his content and I appreciate the opinions.

On why the discussion on Phil is less, its because people might not see everything he does. I love Phil therefore I look for more things in videos etc that I can talk about. Many of the tumblr phandom will focus on how squishy Dan looks in contrast to the witty remark Phil makes. It happens but I'm not salty about it because I understand that sometimes something superficial is easier to decipher. This website I feel is pretty equal in discussing both Atleast we are getting there so I'm really happy. People do notice and appreciate the little things Phil does and many of you who previously didn't understand him are liking/knowing him more which is great Okay end of rant but this is from a long phil stan so hopefully this gave you some insight!
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