Dan & Phil Part 12: Stalking him until he loves you

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Re: Dan & Phil Part 12: Stalking him until he loves you

Post by Poe » Fri May 27, 2016 9:00 pm

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SquishPhan wrote:
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hollyphan wrote:OK DAN.
That aestetic
Idk if it's just the closeup pic but dang those dark circles, please get some sleep Dan :(
Yeah those are some pretty big, dark circles, but I guess that's to be expected with their crazy schedule.
Dang, you all guys are so dramatic about his dark circles and think he's exhausted and I'm just sitting here chilling like pfff, please. His dark circles have got nothing on mine (genetics screwed me over). Mine appear even after I've had 12 hours of sleep, so if you all were to see me you'd probably want me in hospital immediately :lol: Maybe my perspective is skewed but his honestly don't seem so bad to me. It's an extreme close-up after all so we're bound to see all the little imperfections that usually get washed out by their giant lights or crappy M&G cameras and lighting or many other factors

Also: camo jumper, YAS!
Dark circles-same. I literally spent most of last week sleeping (meaning 72+ hours of sleep, no kidding) and I still looked like the death itself. I truly look like a zombie running on caffeine

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Post by spaceguitar » Fri May 27, 2016 9:00 pm

I was like, wth is Dan's tweet/ instagram- it's not even funny. And then i typed the japanese into google translate and laughed at the translation. I'm not even sure why its funny, it just is. :lol:

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Post by grannypants » Fri May 27, 2016 9:03 pm

hollyphan wrote:OK DAN.
That aestetic
my first thought was how tired his eyes look too, damn :? on a more positive note his under eye concealer/foundation routine must be killer to get rid of those, teach me daniel maybe an everyday make up routine could be a good replacement for the exam vid? no? ok
also i really wish they wouldn't upload photos this zoomed, it makes me hella uncomfortable idk i'm so used to seeing them at a safe distance a couple of feet back behind a camera... can't deal with seeing the stray eyebrow hairs and close up eyeballs :wtf: its almost like they're real people, say wuuuuut
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Post by manged » Fri May 27, 2016 9:10 pm

I must surround myself with a lot of tired motherfuckers because the dark circles don't phase me at all. It ain't nothing a bit of peach-colored corrector can't fix, honey.
Maybe I'm more distracted by the brown suedey looking upholstery behind him. Since they're on their way to a new venue, I'm assuming the photo was taken on the bus... so hey, we finally get to see the inside of their bus... kinda.

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Post by coffee pig » Fri May 27, 2016 9:12 pm

phamnotof wrote:I'm always so fascinated by how different people get nostalgic for different 'eras' in the phandom. Like I only just joined at the beginning of this year and I quite honestly have this utter disconnect with D&P's early work - like, they're not who I fell in love with, I barely even recognize them. I honestly wouldn't be a fan of them, had I discovered them 4 years ago. I feel like they were different people back then as well as different creators. I do like seeing the beginnings of what I see in them now, because I do think that some things are constant, but overall - not for me, not my humor, not my people, not an energy that would attract me beyond 6 minutes at a time.

So it's always so strange to see people wishing Dan would go back to what I call his 'angry unhappy slutty problematic self' - and this isn't meant to be a judgmement, it's more that... I wonder if we're all just destined to miss the Them that we fell in love with & if there's an expiration date on my Dan and Phil, too. And it's not that I don't want them to go forward in the journey that I'm percieving them to be on (boy, do I) - but I do wonder if someday, they go so far that I feel like I can't recognize them anymore. (I guess this makes YT fandoms weird, the potential forever of their existance, and the fact that I'll have to one day decide if it's still for me, no nettwork cancelling my new faves can intervene FUCK YOU MTV eh sorry off topic :D. But yeah, I've been thinking about this lately.)
Just to clarify, I'm happy that 2016 Dan is happy and comfortable with himself. I'm not nostalgic for ''past'' Dan. I'm slightly nostalgic for old YouTube sometimes, when the relationship between the creators and the audience was more innocent. I'm going to put the rest of this under a spoiler because this became long as fuck, why.
I'm only two years younger then Dan, so when I started watching his videos in 2009 he was actually relatable to me, not just #relatable, as I was in the same ''failed scene kid lol random XD'' tragic phase of life, and was going through some of the same issues thinking about uni and my future. The fact is that I can no longer relate to them because they are now two rich guys with millions of viewers and personas, and their content is aimed at a much younger audience. I now think about things that never occurred to me in past, like their brands and management and how much money they are making off of me watching them. If they are possibly manipulating how I'm seeing their relationship. It's obviously a different viewing experience then when I was watching two guys with funny hair who were around my age and didn't really know what they were doing.

The change was inevitable, obviously. I still enjoy watching their videos. I don't blame them for becoming massively popular, or wanting to make money, or wanting to have control over their image. I just miss the simpler days sometimes.

I also want to defend Dan a bit here...besides that regrettable, short-lived period in 2012, he wasn't as angry, slutty or problematic as people make him out to have been. Dan's sense of humor seems ''problematic'' now, but in 2010 no one batted an eye at people making rape jokes and dead baby jokes on YouTube. (Unfortunately.)
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Post by corn flakes » Fri May 27, 2016 9:27 pm

English is not my first language: half of the mistakes are typos ,half are me

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Post by oqua » Fri May 27, 2016 9:28 pm

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Post by danphil333 » Fri May 27, 2016 9:31 pm

the dark circle is not that bad, he will survive

but the eyebrow close up gave me a jumpscare :wahh: :sobs:
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Post by NarrysCanary » Fri May 27, 2016 9:33 pm

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Post by eevee » Fri May 27, 2016 9:39 pm

I missed so much while I was out shopping!

That pic of dan in front of the marble...I die...he looks good enough to eat

the closeup dark circles...if he wears concealer, he needs to become a beauty guru right the fudge now and tell us his secrets.

That video of them meeting fans really touched me because they were being so NICE. They asked fans if they wanted pictures and signatures...so sweet and caring towards the fans. It's nice to see that they aren't total trash around their fans or don't care behind closed doors. Tyler Oakley was lovely when I met him, but in his documentary he seems 1000000% done with fans. I'm glad that Dan and Phil don't seem that way.

As for the 'did dan have depression' thing, I really firmly believe that fans wanted him to have depression so that he'd be more relateable. A youtuber's main appeal is relateability anyway. In my opinion...they're seeminly accessible celebrities, they talk directly to their fans, youtube fans feel way more connected to their YT idols than fans of say, Taylor Swift or another star who doesn't have a reality show of any sort. So therefore I think that fans stretched things to try to relate to Dan, which is disgusting because why would you project depression on to somebody or speculate about their mental health. I think that's awful but I guess some people don't agree.

As for 2011-ish Dan, I started watching in probably 2011, so I'm a bit nostalgic towards how D&P used to be then but to be honest I don't think they've changed too too much or become worse at all, I still enjoy watching them years later, although I have relaxed a bit as a fan, for example I don't scream much and last time I met them I acted like a regular person hahaha.

edit: no hate to fangirls tho, I certainly used to be one and I understand :)

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Post by phamnotof » Fri May 27, 2016 9:40 pm

bedhead91 wrote:
phamnotof wrote:I'm always so fascinated by how different people get nostalgic for different 'eras' in the phandom. Like I only just joined at the beginning of this year and I quite honestly have this utter disconnect with D&P's early work - like, they're not who I fell in love with, I barely even recognize them. I honestly wouldn't be a fan of them, had I discovered them 4 years ago. I feel like they were different people back then as well as different creators. I do like seeing the beginnings of what I see in them now, because I do think that some things are constant, but overall - not for me, not my humor, not my people, not an energy that would attract me beyond 6 minutes at a time.

So it's always so strange to see people wishing Dan would go back to what I call his 'angry unhappy slutty problematic self' - and this isn't meant to be a judgmement, it's more that... I wonder if we're all just destined to miss the Them that we fell in love with & if there's an expiration date on my Dan and Phil, too. And it's not that I don't want them to go forward in the journey that I'm percieving them to be on (boy, do I) - but I do wonder if someday, they go so far that I feel like I can't recognize them anymore. (I guess this makes YT fandoms weird, the potential forever of their existance, and the fact that I'll have to one day decide if it's still for me, no nettwork cancelling my new faves can intervene FUCK YOU MTV eh sorry off topic :D. But yeah, I've been thinking about this lately.)
Just to clarify, I'm happy that 2016 Dan is happy and comfortable with himself. I'm not nostalgic for ''past'' Dan. I'm slightly nostalgic for old YouTube sometimes, when the relationship between the creators and the audience was more innocent. I'm going to put the rest of this under a spoiler because this became long as fuck, why.
I'm only two years younger then Dan, so when I started watching his videos in 2009 he was actually relatable to me, not just #relatable, as I was in the same ''failed scene kid lol random XD'' tragic phase of life, and was going through some of the same issues thinking about uni and my future. The fact is that I can no longer relate to them because they are now two rich guys with millions of viewers and personas, and their content is aimed at a much younger audience. I now think about things that never occurred to me in past, like their brands and management and how much money they are making off of me watching them. If they are possibly manipulating how I'm seeing their relationship. It's obviously a different viewing experience then when I was watching two guys with funny hair who were around my age and didn't really know what they were doing.

The change was inevitable, obviously. I still enjoy watching their videos. I don't blame them for becoming massively popular, or wanting to make money, or wanting to have control over their image. I just miss the simpler days sometimes.

I also want to defend Dan a bit here...besides that regrettable, short-lived period in 2012, he wasn't as angry, slutty or problematic as people make him out to have been. Dan's sense of humor seems ''problematic'' now, but in 2010 no one batted an eye at people making rape jokes and dead baby jokes on YouTube. (Unfortunately.)
Oh, yeah, I never meant to imply that liking their (or Dan's, to be specific) content back then meant you agreed with everything they said or even wish they went back to being less happy and content with their lives. Sorry if it seemed that way.

And I guess for me, this way is preferable even as far as experiencing them as celebrities goes, I would just not be comfortable being a fan of someone who I could think of in terms of 'just like me', but that's personal preference and a desire for boundaries. Like I honestly prefer this, I prefer a good production value and a firmly set wall, I've got poorly edited and badly lit friends who make terrible jokes IRL. I like that they're a business now, because I am fascinated by personas, I think they're an artform, good branding is like porn to me, the gap between persona and private citizens keeps me up at night - this is what I like. I like storytelling and entertainment and I don't find it manipulative, fanservice to me is their job, serve me up, bro, just do it in a way that I can enjoy, sell yourself well or then I'll be unhappy. I need you to be fictional to a degree, or else I won't be able to project my everything onto you. But again, this is preference.

And as far as the problematic stuff goes, I really don't find "everyone did it" to be in any way a good enough excuse, like I was 13 in 2009 and even then, I knew better than to laugh at rape jokes. I don't blame him anymore, and it's been a joy to see how much he grew up, but I really don't think that his frankly horrible behaviours at times can be excused. Slutty was a weird word to use on my part though (#problematictoo :D) - I just meant to overly sexed up image he tried to build, the sultry stares, the dancing - not my thing. But there's nothing wrong with it. And I guess I read anger in a lot of his videos, anger and frustration, and not just cause of Voldy, but also the overall pressure put on him from everywhere, becoming famous, moving, dropping out - he just didn't seem happy. And I appreciate that some people related to that & it indeed is valuable.

I never meant to shit at being a fan of that period or the sense of humor (other than the truly problematic stuff) of those eras, my point was just that it's weird to imagine that one day, I'll be there, too, still loving him, but not having him be the creator I first fell for, because the nature of a potentially never-ending fandom is just odd.

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Re: Dan & Phil Part 12: Stalking him until he loves you

Post by internetakeover » Fri May 27, 2016 9:47 pm

phamnotof wrote:I'm always so fascinated by how different people get nostalgic for different 'eras' in the phandom. Like I only just joined at the beginning of this year and I quite honestly have this utter disconnect with D&P's early work - like, they're not who I fell in love with, I barely even recognize them. I honestly wouldn't be a fan of them, had I discovered them 4 years ago. I feel like they were different people back then as well as different creators. I do like seeing the beginnings of what I see in them now, because I do think that some things are constant, but overall - not for me, not my humor, not my people, not an energy that would attract me beyond 6 minutes at a time.

So it's always so strange to see people wishing Dan would go back to what I call his 'angry unhappy slutty problematic self' - and this isn't meant to be a judgmement, it's more that... I wonder if we're all just destined to miss the Them that we fell in love with & if there's an expiration date on my Dan and Phil, too. And it's not that I don't want them to go forward in the journey that I'm percieving them to be on (boy, do I) - but I do wonder if someday, they go so far that I feel like I can't recognize them anymore. (I guess this makes YT fandoms weird, the potential forever of their existance, and the fact that I'll have to one day decide if it's still for me, no nettwork cancelling my new faves can intervene FUCK YOU MTV eh sorry off topic :D. But yeah, I've been thinking about this lately.)
It is really interesting! I loved them in 2010 but looking back I think I was a very different person back then, and I find it hard to watch those old videos now b/c I'm annoyed with my past self for having no/not strong enough issues with rape jokes etc etc, almost above now being uncomfortable with that type of humour/disliking them at all. I'd imagine that they're now old enough that they won't change too dramatically and we should all be comfortable still liking how they grow from 2016!D&P, but then as a kid in 2010 I'd've thought similar things about 2010!them, so who knows!

also idk if anyone PM'd you in response to your request for 2012 timeline but though I was on a bit of a break from the phandom/more interested in 1D when all that drama was going on I can at least tell you that Voldy leaked for the first time on the 17th of September 2011, and was apparently releaked/very easily accessible in on tumblr towards the end of October 2012, when their fanbase was much bigger/now based outside a locked livejournal community. But if anyone was actually paying attention towards the end of 2012 please do come in and correct me!

I agree with everyone else wanting Dan's make up tips, I've never been able to cover up my constant dark circles that well!

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Post by kuensukki » Fri May 27, 2016 9:54 pm

On the phandom's obsession of depressed Dan:

This has always been something I never fully understood but had always been too prevelent to ignore. If we look at the majority of the phandom they are a collective group of people dealing with things such as sexuality crisis, depression, anxiety and a majority of social disorders. It's something I think makes the phandom so united but also so obsessed. Their main outlet is these boys and their lives. This of course doesn't go for everyone (as this forum seems to not have that) but everywhere on tumblr people express their awkward temperaments and their anxieties and how depression overcomes them constantly.

Now how does Dan come into this? I think Dan personifies all those dealing with these issues. He was the one to deal with weight insecurities and share them, he constantly talked about being sad, his "existentialism", and we even see that in his old tweets. I don't think it was as bad as he is portrayed by the phandom but there was lingering self-doubt and sadness. That in turn gave ammunition to build Dan as this depressed guy dealing with issues that every teenager struggles with. Phil personifies the solution. He is the one that will come into Dan's life and make it better. This whole dynamic created with Dan being the broken depressed shell while Phil being the happy and supportive sunlight that makes things better provides hope for those living in sadness. That is why many come forward to say that these boys saved their lives, because these boys represent the notion that "life does get better". In a way it also romanticizes the notion of "phan" as a ship because it shows how one guy can make such a difference.

My opinions: I have always hated this romantisization until I spoke to a phandom member about it. In a way, there is some good in the fact that he got better and that provides some hope in those struggling. The line gets crossed though, when people start bringing ideas such as suicidal thoughts, cutting, and codependency on Phil which is unhealthy to consider.

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Post by eevee » Fri May 27, 2016 9:59 pm

kuensukki wrote: My opinions: I have always hated this romantisization until I spoke to a phandom member about it. In a way, there is some good in the fact that he got better and that provides some hope in those struggling. The line gets crossed though, when people start bringing ideas such as suicidal thoughts, cutting, and codependency on Phil which is unhealthy to consider.
y'know you provide a really good point and i totally see where you're coming from. i'm down with people feeling happier about themselves or better about themselves. I see what you mean by they personified depression and cure. That's a very interesting take that I hadn't considered.
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Post by oqua » Fri May 27, 2016 10:06 pm

phamnotof wrote:This is related to nothing, so I'm sorry to bring it up here, but is there anyone who'd be willing to give me a general 2012 timeline? Just like the big ones, I'm so useless with time, I don't even know when VDV leaked.

(Doing research for a Thing.)
I took a shot at making one! :D This probably doesn't have everything on it. If anyone knows of other key events feel free to add them in!

February 6th - Season 2 of the Super Amazing Project starts
March 2nd - Phil hits 200,000 subscribers
May 5th - Phil starts the Mutual Friend Lie
May 23rd - Dan hits 200,000 subscribers
Summer - No-Homo Howell kicks into high gear and Dan starts making explicit "I'm not gay, I like boobs" denials in liveshows
July 17th - Dan and Phil go on the Scott Mills show on BBC Radio 1
May through July - Dan and Phil look at apartments in London
July 23rd - Dan and Phil MOVE TO LONDON
August 1st - Dan hits 300,000 subscribers. (By this point he has surpassed Phil in subs)
August 25th - Phandom finds Dan's brother's social media and he deactivates for the first time
August 28th - Phil hits 300,000 subscribers
Throughout August - Dan and Phil appear on BBC Radio 1
September 9th - Dan announces the Customer Service Department tumblr blog
September 16th - Dan starts publicly answering questions on the Customer Service Department blog, in response to rumblings in his tumblr tag about Voldy and a rumored Phan kiss in the background of a vlog
October 31st - Voldy leaks for the second time and circulates on Tumblr (the first time it leaked was September 17th, 2011)
November 11th - BBC Radio 1 announces the Dan & Phil radio show will start in January 2013
December 24th - The last ever D&P Super Amazing Project episode is released
December 25th - D&P do their second BBC Radio 1 Christmas Special
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Post by eevee » Fri May 27, 2016 10:12 pm

^ I wish I could thank that 100 times, how did you do that?
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Post by phamnotof » Fri May 27, 2016 10:15 pm

oqua wrote:
phamnotof wrote:This is related to nothing, so I'm sorry to bring it up here, but is there anyone who'd be willing to give me a general 2012 timeline? Just like the big ones, I'm so useless with time, I don't even know when VDV leaked.

(Doing research for a Thing.)
I took a shot at making one! :D This probably doesn't have everything on it. If anyone knows of other key events feel free to add them in!

February 6th - Season 2 of the Super Amazing Project starts
March 2nd - Phil hits 200,000 subscribers
May 5th - Phil starts the Mutual Friend Lie
May 23rd - Dan hits 200,000 subscribers
Summer - No-Homo Howell kicks into high gear and Dan starts making explicit "I'm not gay, I like boobs" denials in liveshows
July 17th - Dan and Phil go on the Scott Mills show on BBC Radio 1
May through July - Dan and Phil look at apartments in London
July 23rd - Dan and Phil MOVE TO LONDON
August 1st - Dan hits 300,000 subscribers. (By this point he has surpassed Phil in subs)
August 25th - Phandom finds Dan's brother's social media and he deactivates for the first time
August 28th - Phil hits 300,000 subscribers
Throughout August - Dan and Phil appear on BBC Radio 1
September 9th - Dan announces the Customer Service Department tumblr blog
September 16th - Dan starts publicly answering questions on the Customer Service Department blog, in response to rumblings in his tumblr tag about Voldy and a rumored Phan kiss in the background of a vlog
October 31st - Voldy leaks for the second time and circulates on Tumblr (the first time it leaked was September 17th, 2011)
November 11th - BBC Radio 1 announces the Dan & Phil radio show will start in January 2013
December 24th - The last ever D&P Super Amazing Project episode is released
December 25th - D&P do their second BBC Radio 1 Christmas Special
oh bless you, this is amazing! now I can write my super angsty fic, I just need to find myself horribly frustrated on a train as that's mostly where I write :D but outside of that, this is fascinating, and some of the chronology is not exactly what I expected.

internetakeover thanks to you, too! And yeah, I'm fascinated to see how much things change in 7 years, because they're bound to, whether they want them to or not.

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Post by eevee » Fri May 27, 2016 10:17 pm

phamnotof wrote:internetakeover thanks to you, too! And yeah, I'm fascinated to see how much things change in 7 years, because they're bound to, whether they want them to or not.
Honestly I can't wait to see what continues to happen with them, UNLESS they drop off the face of the earth. I'm gonna hold on until they're 60 and when they are ima hunt them down and be like "yo yo yo i used to love your YT videos" and ima buy them a whiskey sour or whatever 60yr old men drink and we'll have a jolly old time.

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Post by Bassoonage » Fri May 27, 2016 10:25 pm

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IckleMissMayhem wrote:Not sure "Marble Princess" is gonna cut it as the next thread title... c'mon, try harder...!
I personally like "burn that goddamn weed sweater. Hahahaha
I really like that sweater on him... :cry:
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Post by oqua » Fri May 27, 2016 10:27 pm

eevee wrote:^ I wish I could thank that 100 times, how did you do that?
Haha, er... Mainly I just spend an inordinate amount of time scrolling through Tumblr posts and Tweets from 2012. I've always just been fascinated by the events of Summer 2012, when they seemingly went through a lot of changes — moving to London, being courted by the BBC, Dan surpassing Phil in number of subscribers, both of their fanbases growing considerably — and also (consequently?) started to change their own approach to their public image and their relationship with the phandom. And basically I live for angst.
phamnotof wrote:
oqua wrote:
phamnotof wrote:This is related to nothing, so I'm sorry to bring it up here, but is there anyone who'd be willing to give me a general 2012 timeline? Just like the big ones, I'm so useless with time, I don't even know when VDV leaked.

(Doing research for a Thing.)
I took a shot at making one! :D This probably doesn't have everything on it. If anyone knows of other key events feel free to add them in!

February 6th - Season 2 of the Super Amazing Project starts
March 2nd - Phil hits 200,000 subscribers
May 5th - Phil starts the Mutual Friend Lie
May 23rd - Dan hits 200,000 subscribers
Summer - No-Homo Howell kicks into high gear and Dan starts making explicit "I'm not gay, I like boobs" denials in liveshows
July 17th - Dan and Phil go on the Scott Mills show on BBC Radio 1
May through July - Dan and Phil look at apartments in London
July 23rd - Dan and Phil MOVE TO LONDON
August 1st - Dan hits 300,000 subscribers. (By this point he has surpassed Phil in subs)
August 25th - Phandom finds Dan's brother's social media and he deactivates for the first time
August 28th - Phil hits 300,000 subscribers
Throughout August - Dan and Phil appear on BBC Radio 1
September 9th - Dan announces the Customer Service Department tumblr blog
September 16th - Dan starts publicly answering questions on the Customer Service Department blog, in response to rumblings in his tumblr tag about Voldy and a rumored Phan kiss in the background of a vlog
October 31st - Voldy leaks for the second time and circulates on Tumblr (the first time it leaked was September 17th, 2011)
November 11th - BBC Radio 1 announces the Dan & Phil radio show will start in January 2013
December 24th - The last ever D&P Super Amazing Project episode is released
December 25th - D&P do their second BBC Radio 1 Christmas Special
oh bless you, this is amazing! now I can write my super angsty fic, I just need to find myself horribly frustrated on a train as that's mostly where I write :D but outside of that, this is fascinating, and some of the chronology is not exactly what I expected.
No problem! I hope it helps. Let me know if you have more questions about my sources for these dates, or details or anything.
busy being happy~

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Re: Dan & Phil Part 12: Stalking him until he loves you

Post by tilltomorrow » Fri May 27, 2016 10:36 pm

My friend and I discovered in 2011/12 when we were freshman and with graduation coming up, we were talking about how much we've changed over the years and how the biggest change with them isn't necessarily content maturity (it's gotten a bit less cringe since 2012 but it feels like it's still aimed at the young demographic) but the shift into "Professional YouTuber".

Like I remember, being a lot more willing to show their videos to friends at 18 but now if someone asks I'm a bit more hesitant because I'm used to their content level but as "an outsider" pointed out recently, some videos now feel like watching a children's show. As a child you see nothing wrong with an adult talking to a blue dog and slowly drawing stick figures in his notepad but watching it back as an adult it feels really weird.

Sometimes, I just wonder how things would have turned out if YouTube didn't become as big as it is. It's cool that these YT'ers can essentially make a good living off being the internet version of reality celebrities b

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Re: Dan & Phil Part 12: Stalking him until he loves you

Post by internetakeover » Fri May 27, 2016 10:38 pm

phamnotof wrote:internetakeover thanks to you, too! And yeah, I'm fascinated to see how much things change in 7 years, because they're bound to, whether they want them to or not.
No problem, all I did was take a brief look in my memory banks, haha.

Thank you to oqua for such a brilliant actual timeline, I'm definitely going to be spending too much time rewatching liveshows etc and matching them up with that now!

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Re: Dan & Phil Part 12: Stalking him until he loves you

Post by eevee » Fri May 27, 2016 10:39 pm

internetakeover wrote:
phamnotof wrote:internetakeover thanks to you, too! And yeah, I'm fascinated to see how much things change in 7 years, because they're bound to, whether they want them to or not.
No problem, all I did was take a brief look in my memory banks, haha.

Thank you to oqua for such a brilliant actual timeline, I'm definitely going to be spending too much time rewatching liveshows etc and matching them up with that now!
yo i'd love to see liveshows of dan denying phan from 2012 lmao link me
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Re: Dan & Phil Part 12: Stalking him until he loves you

Post by newslang » Fri May 27, 2016 10:47 pm

eevee wrote:
internetakeover wrote:
phamnotof wrote:internetakeover thanks to you, too! And yeah, I'm fascinated to see how much things change in 7 years, because they're bound to, whether they want them to or not.
No problem, all I did was take a brief look in my memory banks, haha.

Thank you to oqua for such a brilliant actual timeline, I'm definitely going to be spending too much time rewatching liveshows etc and matching them up with that now!
yo i'd love to see liveshows of dan denying phan from 2012 lmao link me
As far as I know, Dan has never outright denied Phan in a liveshow. He has denied being gay several times, I'll link you to both versions.

short version


long version, if you truly hate yourself and want to watch 30 minutes of ''no homo''

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Re: Dan & Phil Part 12: Stalking him until he loves you

Post by eevee » Fri May 27, 2016 10:51 pm

^ I'm about to get in the car but believe me I hate myself enough to watch the 30 minute one thanks so much
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