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sweetmm wrote:I wish we get to see all the candid photos and videos Phil takes of Dan, cause I am going to guess it must be a trunk load of them
Same. I think they must have lots of cute pics of each other (and of them together). Most of my fave Dan pics are taken by Phil.
Sadly though, we will probably never seem them.
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sweetmm wrote:I wish we get to see all the candid photos and videos Phil takes of Dan, cause I am going to guess it must be a trunk load of them
Same. I think they must have lots of cute pics of each other (and of them together). Most of my fave Dan pics are taken by Phil.
Sadly though, we will probably never seem them.
I know! Think of how many little clips they have that they just decided to save for themselves
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Hey everyone, long time lurker, I finally decided to actually post. Better late than never I guess.

re: the whole Dans sexuality discussion... I don't know what his sexuality is and I don't even care too much but I feel like sometimes him hinting towards being attracted to guys is just... this celebrity-crush #relatable thing. It's great that he feels more comfortable to actually do that in the last couple years because saying something like that is sometimes still seen as "weird", especially for guys who are either straight or not out. But it doesn't really proof anything to me.
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Does anyone feel a bit about the flurry of new posters with the 'Dan is prolly straight its just for hashtagbants' agenda?

Whatever brings you here - welcome :thumb: . Taking a step back, this forum does swing in a certain direction (unlike Dan wheeeeeeeEEEEEeeeey) so it will be good for all to have some different opinions floating around.

Srsly tho where'd you all come from at the same time
I wonder how biology can explain the physical pain you feel in your chest when all you want to do is talk shit on IDB
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Thanks for all the timestamps, spider and especially the screengrabs of them before noticing they're being filmed. After weeks of Dan turning me to mush I switched allegiances again yesterday and that shot of Phil... such a cute baboo
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Lurktacularr wrote:Does anyone feel a bit about the flurry of new posters with the 'Dan is prolly straight its just for hashtagbants' agenda?
YES.
I am a strong believer that for a message board is be good and interesting it needs to be filled with posters who are of vast and varying opinions so usually I'm all for people joining who have opinions that go against what is considered the norm but over the last few weeks I've just felt like this place is being trolled.
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sweetmm wrote:I wish we get to see all the candid photos and videos Phil takes of Dan, cause I am going to guess it must be a trunk load of them
I'm selling my soul to see that if I can, tbh

My fav vid of Phil recording Dan is probably the one in the making of tabinof where he is humming a few bars and Phil secretly records it

[offtopic]welcome back, sweetmm :platonic:[/offtopic]
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Lurktacularr wrote:Does anyone feel a bit about the flurry of new posters with the 'Dan is prolly straight its just for hashtagbants' agenda?
YES.
I am a true believer in that to be good a message board needs posters who are of vast and varying opinions so usually I'm all for people joining who have opinions that go against what is considered the norm but over the last few weeks I've just felt like this place is being trolled.
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Lurktacularr wrote:Does anyone feel a bit about the flurry of new posters with the 'Dan is prolly straight its just for hashtagbants' agenda?

Whatever brings you here - welcome :thumb: . Taking a step back, this forum does swing in a certain direction (unlike Dan wheeeeeeeEEEEEeeeey) so it will be good for all to have some different opinions floating around.

Srsly tho where'd you all come from at the same time
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[offtopic]So at the tatinof Sydney show, I'm assuming the 7sc was to carry Phil across the stage and well this happened. their faces are priceless at the end. [/offtopic]
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confusedpanda wrote:[offtopic]So at the tatinof Sydney show,
I'm assuming the 7sc was to carry Phil across the stage and well this happened.
their faces are priceless at the end. [/offtopic]
:lol: Is Phil going "no no no no" at the end??
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confusedpanda wrote:[offtopic]So at the tatinof Sydney show,
I'm assuming the 7sc was to carry Phil across the stage and well this happened.
their faces are priceless at the end. [/offtopic]
That was just great. I felt Phil's fear of being dropped.
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wow, after 3 whole threads or so I am back with a little post, pointless as always.
While I'm always lurking here and loving you all I have to say the mood over the last pages is kinda meh?

well, my 2 pennies:

I loved the DITL and the PokemonGO vids both A LOOOT! thanks for all your timestamps, it's my fave thing to rewatch the vids while reading the timestamps, so much I didn't even realise the first time.

Dans sexuality... idc. I just don't. let him be, let him live. I personally don't think he's straight, but whatever he is, I just hope he is happy and confident with himself

Nails: as I first saw it, I kinda hated it, because I found it just ugly on him?! But idk, it has grown on me? Looking back at the pictures now, I like it. Also idc why he did it, for fanservice, for himself, whatever, he seems comfortable with it and that's great 8-)

and well, so many new members at once.. hi there :D


AND the tour is almost over and they still didn't say anything about europe, I'm going insane :tsk: :wahh: :wahh: :wahh:
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confusedpanda wrote:Mod note: Tatinof spoilers behind a cut, please!
[offtopic]So at the tatinof Sydney show, I'm assuming the 7sc was to carry Phil across the stage and well this happened. their faces are priceless at the end. [/offtopic]
How I would have loved to have been there and see the non-consensual grab and run :D How did Phil agree to it? Did Dan manage to grab him and lift him up before he realized all in a few seconds? How can Dan run that fast when he claims to be so unfit? I have so many questions that will never be answered sigh
Wait they pick the 7 Second Challenges beforehand right?
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000dia000 wrote:
confusedpanda wrote:Mod note: Tatinof spoilers behind a cut, please!
[offtopic]So at the tatinof Sydney show, I'm assuming the 7sc was to carry Phil across the stage and well this happened. their faces are priceless at the end. [/offtopic]
How I would have loved to have been there and see the non-consensual grab and run :D How did Phil agree to it? Did Dan manage to grab him and lift him up before he realized all in a few seconds? How can Dan run that fast when he claims to be so unfit? I have so many questions that will never be answered sigh
Wait they pick the 7 Second Challenges beforehand right?
Phil must be pretty heavy because he's so tall and yet Dan is just easily running around the stage with him!
They are definitely screened but I don't know if they themselves pick them beforehand. I feel like them picking them beforehand kinda ruins the fun of the game.
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confusedpanda wrote:Mod note: Tatinof spoilers behind a cut, please!
[offtopic]So at the tatinof Sydney show, I'm assuming the 7sc was to carry Phil across the stage and well this happened. their faces are priceless at the end. [/offtopic]
I love this! Hahaha
How come my tatinof show didn't have a challenge like that? Hmpf.
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Wow, it's hard to tell which of them enjoyed that the least :shock: Quite unceremoniously chucked off at the end there. Interesting that's Dan's not only capable of lifting him, but also didn't do his back in.
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After watching it a few hundred times I thought that I would mention that Phil really is clumsy while the drop from Dan was far from gentle, the stumble Phil made seemed only capable by the very only Lester himself
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Quick someone save the snap! :lol: So cute.

Also. Off topic, but this came up and I've been pondering it.

Remember that good ol' Sunday Times article? Quote below. TW because... IDK it's the Sunday Times article and some people don't like it or want to see it.
I ask Dan what he thinks about the persistent rumours that he is gay. He references the actor Tom Hardy’s plea for privacy over the same issue. “We don’t talk about our private lives in any way,” he says. “Creatively, we want to be apart from the people who are reality stars. We don’t want to be some Kardashian.”
I've always wondered why it is that only Dan got asked about supposed rumors about himself. Why wasn't Phil asked or even a part of that? Forgive the bluntness, but I've personally always sort of assumed that to the everyday YouTube consumer, Dan and Phil are both relatively straight-passing. To a generic audience, what makes Phil less-rumored? Is this something I'm not seeing? Is it because Dan's more popular?

I've also recently wondered how Dan might answer if he were asked this today. Likely the same, but with the diss track and all... It feels worth a ponder.
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Off-Topic:
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ellocl wrote: In terms of the actual content of the video, I can't help but roll my eyes when I hear people say that they're 'heterosexual but biromantic' or vice versa (and it does usually tend to be vice versa). Imo using terms like that just normalises internalised homophobia, cause there are so many guys out there (for example) who have sex with men and don't have any issues with that but they would never consider dating a guy, that would freak them out. So it kind of rubs me up the wrong way to see people acting as though that's a valid sexuality
im sorry for going further with the offtopic but yeah I agree
I didn't watch the whole video I stopped at the mention of porn so I'm sorry
but split attraction has been bringing more harm than good (when not used by people that are asexual but want romantic relationships) I'm sad tbh. I don't want to get deep with compulsory heterosexuality talk but yeah many people go through this to only realise they were just clinging to a bit of "normality"/dealing with internalized homophobia OR he really is warm towards guys and interprets that as romantic. ugh I'm almost discoursing it's just this has been talked about so many times there are a lot of posts out there explaining why the split-attraction model is homophobic if anyone is interested :/
antigone wrote: as a bi person I do kinda get Onision's biromantic thing but I guess I can understand peoples hesitance, esp. when Onision is concerned :roll:
I agree that people may use the label "Biromantic Heterosexual" because of internalized homophobia - but surely this is the product of homophobia not the fault of the label. I know there are people who actually feel that this label accurately describes them, because they have had real and tangible experiences of intense romantic love towards members of the same sex without the usual accompanying sexual attraction, which they can only feel for the opposite sex. If this is how these people actually experience their sexuality, and they identify with the label "Biromantic Heterosexual", why would it not be a 'valid sexuality'? How could you know, from an external standpoint that this is not a 'valid' label that accurately describes what they actually experience?
I'm not saying Onision's video is the best example as he only talks about his vague wish to cuddle Dan Howell (like, have they even met? :facepalm: ) and not any actual love or intense romantic feeling he has felt for another man in real life - but that doesn't mean that there isn't anyone out there for whom this label would have valid meaning and purpose. I guess what I'm saying is, if people are using the label because of internalized homophobia then that's a shame, but not all the people using the label will be using it because of internalized homophobia - and the solution to the problem is surely to try and reduce homophobia rather than to restrict and disparage the labels people can give their sexuality.

I'm sorry if this came off rude in any way, it is not meant as a personal attack on anyone and please feel free to disagree with me. I wasn't going to address it at all, but it just didn't sit right with me to leave this unchallenged.
antigone wrote: So Onision made a coming out video and this reminded me of Dan a bit (he does mention Dan a fair few times tbh).. you're all better at this than me so thoughts?
So against my better judgement and every instinct in my body I watched the Onision video :lol: It's Onision so I would take everything he says with a pinch of salt. He sounds to me like he has come to this conclusion based simply off the fact that he likes the idea of being romantic with the same sex, rather than any real experience thereof.

Discovering you're biromantic because you wouldn't mind cuddling with Dan Howell and announcing this to Youtube? = the definition of awkward
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FYI to anyone reading this who doesn't understand why everyone dislikes Onision, he's allegedly a rapist
If we're going to discuss sexuality again let's at least discuss something new. Does anyone think may have this kind of relationship - romantic love, without the sexual attraction?
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First of all, thank dizzy and spider for the new timestamps, always lovely to rewatch and look for them/see someones else perspective and focal points of the videos.
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confusedpanda wrote:[offtopic]So at the tatinof Sydney show, I'm assuming the 7sc was to carry Phil across the stage and well this happened.
their faces are priceless at the end. [/offtopic]
That was just great. I felt Phil's fear of being dropped.
This is lovely, I was impressed by how fast Dan was going! He really isn't as unfit as he claims. Their faces at the end are hilarious
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Lurktacularr wrote:Does anyone feel a bit about the flurry of new posters with the 'Dan is prolly straight its just for hashtagbants' agenda?
YES.
I am a strong believer that for a message board is be good and interesting it needs to be filled with posters who are of vast and varying opinions so usually I'm all for people joining who have opinions that go against what is considered the norm but over the last few weeks I've just felt like this place is being trolled.
yep, I don't want to shame anyone into not joining in but I too got the feeling.
But hey, if you have other opinions/views and would like to join in in a non-rude manner please do. I recognize sometimes I fly wild when I get excited about something and reading different perspectives is good to ground me/give me an insight of how parts of the phandom I don't see feel which, in turn, is good to understand more of how deppy deals with things in a certain way. :thumb:
About the DAPGO lack of spon: I'm not really expecting a lot of it, maybe one or two mentions in each channel closer to the release date and probably only after the tour ends. If they are to announce the europe leg soon makes sense to me that they wouldn't spon the book before that (hoping for you guys that they will give an definitive answer soon).
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sweetmm wrote:I wish we get to see all the candid photos and videos Phil takes of Dan, cause I am going to guess it must be a trunk load of them
Same. I think they must have lots of cute pics of each other (and of them together). Most of my fave Dan pics are taken by Phil.
Sadly though, we will probably never seem them.
I know! Think of how many little clips they have that they just decided to save for themselves
Now THIS is the stuff I dream about. Seriously. the little glimpses we get are enough to fill me with feelings that they probably would break me if the shared more of these
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rizzo wrote:Alright. I'm changing the topic, because this came up and I've been pondering it.

Remember that good ol' Sunday Times article? Quote below. TW because... IDK it's the Sunday Times article and some people don't like it or want to see it.
I ask Dan what he thinks about the persistent rumours that he is gay. He references the actor Tom Hardy’s plea for privacy over the same issue. “We don’t talk about our private lives in any way,” he says. “Creatively, we want to be apart from the people who are reality stars. We don’t want to be some Kardashian.”
I've always wondered why it is that only Dan got asked about supposed rumors about himself. Why wasn't Phil asked or even a part of that? Forgive the bluntness, but I've personally always sort of assumed that to the everyday YouTube consumer, Dan and Phil are both relatively straight-passing. To a generic audience, what makes Phil less-rumored? Is this something I'm not seeing? Is it because Dan's more popular?

I've also recently wondered how Dan might answer if he were asked this today. Likely the same, but with the diss track and all... It feels worth a ponder.
For one, Dan has been more open about sexuality mentions, even at that time. While the writer was very poorly researched for that article it only takes a quick google for the speculation to start emerging in the suggestions. It is no secret upon going beyond the outer layer of Dan's shell that his sexuality is a constant conversation (like it is here sigh). Secondly, Phil is a mystery and secretive about himself, not mentioning his sexuality and keeping his mentions entirely hetero normative to evade intensive debate, which is one reason why there is little to discuss as of recently (aside from Phil's camera shots of naked male torso, asses and his best friends crotch).
Another reason, most likely, is that Phil was asked and made a no comment which was probably uninteresting for the article. Dan's comment was very much a diversion away from both of them and a no comment in itself, so much so that the writer had to make a mention to a more universally known Tom Hardy's response to sexuality to bring a near related conclusion to his otherwise invasive question.
Finally, the answer we all hate: Dan is simply more popular :roll:
The writer basically wrote the article around Dan and how he was the poster boy and the leader with the duo's success. It's no surprise that any juicy invasive comments will be directed towards the main boy Danny, himself.

In my opinion, deppy really scrape by the "straight passing" trope, it is mostly the phan policing that keeps any confirmations that deppy are indeed hetero and in no way together when some innocent new comer mistakes their fluffy domesticity for a confirmed relationship. Deppy constantly get comments outside of their videos from unknowing viewers speculating their sexuality and relationship if even outright stating it in comments. Honestly, deppy slip between straight passing and otherwise depending on whether we look at their personas (where I think they dull their manner to basic amounts) to real life, where people agree they appear as more outgoing, flamboyant even and exuding mannerisms together and apart that may indicate some state of being other than straight and macho masculine.
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000dia000 wrote:
rizzo wrote:Alright. I'm changing the topic, because this came up and I've been pondering it.

Remember that good ol' Sunday Times article? Quote below. TW because... IDK it's the Sunday Times article and some people don't like it or want to see it.
I ask Dan what he thinks about the persistent rumours that he is gay. He references the actor Tom Hardy’s plea for privacy over the same issue. “We don’t talk about our private lives in any way,” he says. “Creatively, we want to be apart from the people who are reality stars. We don’t want to be some Kardashian.”
I've always wondered why it is that only Dan got asked about supposed rumors about himself. Why wasn't Phil asked or even a part of that? Forgive the bluntness, but I've personally always sort of assumed that to the everyday YouTube consumer, Dan and Phil are both relatively straight-passing. To a generic audience, what makes Phil less-rumored? Is this something I'm not seeing? Is it because Dan's more popular?

I've also recently wondered how Dan might answer if he were asked this today. Likely the same, but with the diss track and all... It feels worth a ponder.
Another reason, most likely, is that Phil was asked and made a no comment which was probably uninteresting for the article. Dan's comment was very much a diversion away from both of them and a no comment in itself, so much so that the writer had to make a mention to a more universally known Tom Hardy's response to sexuality to bring a near related conclusion to his otherwise invasive question.
Wouldn't be surprised if this was the case. Also, do you notice how Dan answers with "we" and not "I"? It makes more sense if Phil was asked too.
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Lurktacularr wrote:Does anyone feel a bit about the flurry of new posters with the 'Dan is prolly straight its just for hashtagbants' agenda?

Whatever brings you here - welcome :thumb: . Taking a step back, this forum does swing in a certain direction (unlike Dan wheeeeeeeEEEEEeeeey) so it will be good for all to have some different opinions floating around.

Srsly tho where'd you all come from at the same time
I've noticed this too. Very
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confusedpanda wrote:[offtopic]So at the tatinof Sydney show,
I'm assuming the 7sc was to carry Phil across the stage and well this happened.
their faces are priceless at the end. [/offtopic]
:lol: Is Phil going "no no no no" at the end??
This is my favorite thing ever. This is why I'm very grateful to everyone who films TATINOF, sorry Deppy!! I've never really understood why some people get absolutely furious at TATINOF spoilers? like yeah it sucks for dan and phil kind of, but it's hardly a spoiler as you can pretty much figure out what will happen at TATINOF, it's not like they've written a Broadway musical or anything
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I originally thought of them as brotherly friends and nothing else occurred to me about either of them until I saw squeeful comments about the way they looked at each other. The most I thought about was how good Phil was not to thump Dan back when they were younger and he kept getting punched or smacked in the face with a cushion or plushie. Once I did think about it, Dan seemed more obviously different from a stereotypical straight guy.
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