Off-Topic:
mrrobot wrote:ellocl wrote:
In terms of the actual content of the video, I can't help but roll my eyes when I hear people say that they're 'heterosexual but biromantic' or vice versa (and it does usually tend to be vice versa). Imo using terms like that just normalises internalised homophobia, cause there are so many guys out there (for example) who have sex with men and don't have any issues with that but they would never consider dating a guy, that would freak them out. So it kind of rubs me up the wrong way to see people acting as though that's a valid sexuality
im sorry for going further with the offtopic but yeah I agree
I didn't watch the whole video I stopped at the mention of porn so I'm sorry
but split attraction has been bringing more harm than good (when not used by people that are asexual but want romantic relationships) I'm sad tbh. I don't want to get deep with compulsory heterosexuality talk but yeah
many people go through this to only realise they were just clinging to a bit of "normality"/dealing with internalized homophobia OR he really is warm towards guys and interprets that as romantic. ugh I'm almost discoursing it's just this has been talked about so many times there are a lot of posts out there explaining why the split-attraction model is homophobic if anyone is interested :/
antigone wrote: as a bi person I do kinda get Onision's biromantic thing but I guess I can understand peoples hesitance, esp. when Onision is concerned
I agree that people may use the label "Biromantic Heterosexual" because of internalized homophobia - but surely this is the product of homophobia not the fault of the label. I know there are people who actually feel that this label accurately describes them, because they have had real and tangible experiences of intense romantic love towards members of the same sex without the usual accompanying sexual attraction, which they can only feel for the opposite sex. If this is how these people actually experience their sexuality, and they identify with the label "Biromantic Heterosexual", why would it not be a 'valid sexuality'? How could you know, from an external standpoint that this is not a 'valid' label that accurately describes what they actually experience?
I'm not saying Onision's video is the best example as he only talks about his vague wish to cuddle Dan Howell (like, have they even met?
) and not any actual
love or
intense romantic feeling he has felt for another man in real life - but that doesn't mean that there isn't anyone out there for whom this label would have valid meaning and purpose. I guess what I'm saying is, if people are using the label because of internalized homophobia then that's a shame, but not all the people using the label will be using it because of internalized homophobia - and the solution to the problem is surely to try and reduce homophobia rather than to restrict and disparage the labels people can give their sexuality.
I'm sorry if this came off rude in any way, it is not meant as a personal attack on anyone and please feel free to disagree with me. I wasn't going to address it at all, but it just didn't sit right with me to leave this unchallenged.
antigone wrote:
So Onision made a coming out video and this reminded me of Dan a bit (he does mention Dan a fair few times tbh).. you're all better at this than me so thoughts?
So against my better judgement and every instinct in my body I watched the Onision video
It's Onision so I would take everything he says with a pinch of salt. He sounds to me like he has come to this conclusion based simply off the fact that he likes the
idea of being romantic with the same sex, rather than any
real experience thereof.
Discovering you're biromantic because you wouldn't mind cuddling with Dan Howell and announcing this to Youtube? = the definition of awkward
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If we're going to discuss sexuality again let's at least discuss something new. Does anyone think may have this kind of relationship - romantic love, without the sexual attraction?