Dan & Phil Part 23: Let's just retract the fist.

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anathema wrote: That's interesting that you had such a different experience from other people. Do you have any idea/theories as to what might have caused the shift in their dynamics?
I have a video from where I met them and you can see how chatty/engaged Phil is in it, being interested in what I was saying and kinda ignoring Dans comments haha! I posted it on social media when it happened so feel free to go find it/pm me as I don't particularly want to share it on here. Hi lurkers

I honestly have no ideas or theories as to why it's happened, maybe it's just because in the m&g videos that are posted its just a small snapshot of what happens rather than seeing the whole thing. I've never done a proper tour m&g, so maybe I'm missing other things that happen? My friend was really disappointed that Phil kept so quiet in her m&g though and specifically said that he just appeared to nod and smile.
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I've always found it odd that in liveshows and stuff, Dan has said how he's very confident before because every time I've met him, he's never come across that way at all and has always seemed very shy to me. Phil is always the outgoing, more talkative one.

I think I dislike when they both talk about how awkward they both are because besides the physical aspect of being clumsy, Phil really doesn't seem that awkward in real life at all and I wouldn't call Dan's shyness awkward really. I think he can do awkward things but that doesn't necessarily make him an awkward person.
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Philena wrote:No one mentioned troll!Phil yet...
If he’d said “angry DM”, I’d have been like #lurkingconfirmed
human wrote:I think I dislike when they both talk about how awkward they both are because besides the physical aspect of being clumsy, Phil really doesn't seem that awkward in real life at all and I wouldn't call Dan's shyness awkward really. I think he can do awkward things but that doesn't necessarily make him an awkward person.
I see what you're saying. I think 'appearing/being confident' is something they've grown into with lots of experience. Dan/they may still feel awkward internally, and then project that their interactions with others are more awkward than the people they meet actually think it is. Not to mention #branding :D
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I don't think being socially awkward was just made up for the persona but I do think Dan was a hell of a lot more socially inept when he started YT then he is now so these days I suspect he says it because it's more a part of his established brand then who he is as a person.
Although that being said I also think he is the type of person who over-thinks things so maybe sometimes when something slightly awkward happens Dan's head magnifies it by a thousand and he really believes it was a much bigger social disaster then it was in reality.

And with Phil while I imagine he can be shy in some situations I suspect with him it's less a case of being a socially awkward person and more that he is just a generally weird person (for lack of a better word coming to mind right now).
I think in social situations his perfectly fine and confident being himself with almost anyone he meets but sometimes he'll talk to someone who just doesn't get him and he'll inevitably say something offbeat which they don't get so makes them uncomfortable which in turn makes the situation uncomfortable.
I also think there is of course there is a certain type of person who "get" Phil and those people I imagine he can get along with swimmingly and they don't find him to be socially awkward in the slightest.

Of course I know neither of them so this is purely speculation on my part.
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pearshaped34 wrote:
And with Phil while I imagine he can be shy in some situations I suspect with him it's less a case of him being a socially awkward person and more that he is just a generally weird person(for lack of a better word coming to mind right now).
I think in social situations his perfectly fine and confident being himself with almost anyone he meets but sometimes he'll talk to someone who just doesn't get him and he'll inevitably say something offbeat which they don't get so makes them uncomfortable which in turn makes the situation uncomfortable.
I also think there is of course there is a certain type of person who "get" Phil and those people I imagine he can get along with swimmingly and those people don't find him to be socially awkward in the slightest.

Of course I know neither of them so this is purely speculation on my part.
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Winston wrote:
pearshaped34 wrote:
And with Phil while I imagine he can be shy in some situations I suspect with him it's less a case of him being a socially awkward person and more that he is just a generally weird person(for lack of a better word coming to mind right now).
I think in social situations his perfectly fine and confident being himself with almost anyone he meets but sometimes he'll talk to someone who just doesn't get him and he'll inevitably say something offbeat which they don't get so makes them uncomfortable which in turn makes the situation uncomfortable.
I also think there is of course there is a certain type of person who "get" Phil and those people I imagine he can get along with swimmingly and those people don't find him to be socially awkward in the slightest.

Of course I know neither of them so this is purely speculation on my part.
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*Removes lurking cloak* I think quirky does describe phil well. Phil is a special speciment because he says things that are not necessarily wierd but just random. I feel like everyone has had those small random thoughts and phil has the ability to just say them without worrying about consequences. This either stems from:
1.He has no filter whatsoever/what he thinks he says
2.He knows exactly what he's doing and just wants to see the reaction of the other person

Either way I give him props, he is quite the unique individual. *Puts lurking cloak back on*
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Phil is definitely quirky. I've always thought of that as a big trait for Phil. I noticed him being quirky in his new videos, old video, in real life and that's one the reasons I really like him. I feel like he was a 'weird' kid at his school, but the good kind of weird.
Academic Rant zen wrote: *Removes lurking cloak* I think quirky does describe phil well. Phil is a special speciment because he says things that are not necessarily wierd but just random. I feel like everyone has had those small random thoughts and phil has the ability to just say them without worrying about consequences. This either stems from:
1.He has no filter whatsoever/what he thinks he says
2.He knows exactly what he's doing and just wants to see the reaction of the other person

Either way I give him props, he is quite the unique individual. *Puts lurking cloak back on*
Yes! Especially with #2. He does things just to see how people react, and when he does this it's kind of a game for him. I love how unique he is.
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So something funny happened at a tatinof show:
Someone recorded an ISG bit where Dan basically threw a bit of shade at people who copy Phil without crediting lol.
http://www.instagram.com/p/BJphlqoDYj5/
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http://mangamaniacalex.tumblr.com/post/ ... m-the-part
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blueapple_x wrote:So something funny happened at a tatinof show:
Someone recorded an ISG bit where Dan basically threw a bit of shade at people who copy Phil without crediting lol.
http://www.instagram.com/p/BJphlqoDYj5/
or
http://mangamaniacalex.tumblr.com/post/ ... m-the-part
Damn. He went for that! He didn't even hint it, or say it indirectly! He was like "PHIL!" This is my favorite Dan.
Sometimes I think that Dan's trying to weave in Phil Trash #1 into his persona. What do y'all think about that?
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blueapple_x wrote:So something funny happened at a tatinof show:
Someone recorded an ISG bit where Dan basically threw a bit of shade at people who copy Phil without crediting lol.
http://www.instagram.com/p/BJphlqoDYj5/
or
http://mangamaniacalex.tumblr.com/post/ ... m-the-part
Damn. He went for that! He didn't even hint it, or say it indirectly! He was like "PHIL!" This is my favorite Dan.
Sometimes I think that Dan's trying to weave in Phil Trash #1 into his persona. What do y'all think about that?

I don't think Dan is necessarily trying to "weave" Phil Trash #1 into his dinof persona, so to speak, but I do thing he's also not denying it (i.e. getting as far away as possible from "we met through a mutual friend" :lol:). Just kinda going with the flow - not consciously making sure he mentions something that falls under the "phil trash" category, but also not consciously making the effort to say something that "denies" him being phil trash. But that also begs the question: what exactly is it that falls into the "phil trash" category? Also, should someone make a transcript of what Dan says incase the video gets taken down, or do you think it's safe because it's just an audio recording?
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bear wrote:
blueapple_x wrote:So something funny happened at a tatinof show:
Someone recorded an ISG bit where Dan basically threw a bit of shade at people who copy Phil without crediting lol.
http://www.instagram.com/p/BJphlqoDYj5/
or
http://mangamaniacalex.tumblr.com/post/ ... m-the-part
Damn. He went for that! He didn't even hint it, or say it indirectly! He was like "PHIL!" This is my favorite Dan.
Sometimes I think that Dan's trying to weave in Phil Trash #1 into his persona. What do y'all think about that?
We all know that Dan is secretly the captain of Phil Lester Defend Squad. :gg:
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOSE
But who the fuck am I kidding? I'm mostly just the rotting banana peel at the bottom of the phan trash can who genuinely gets excited over the thought of them snuggling in bed. Idgaf let a bitch live
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swofro wrote:

Amazing Phil: Hello there Dan and Phil in the ceiling
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Anonymousse wrote:NOOOOOOOOOOOOOSE
Dan: I love you and your bird nose
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[name edited]Hong Kong
It’s one of the highest bars in the world. We are not speaking like in the mountains, but high as it’s on the 118th floor [hotel name edited]. The interior is kind of sci-fi orientated. It reminds you of the atmosphere of Star Trek or Mass Effect (video game) for those of you who have seen them. With neon lights, unique design, amazing shapes, this is one the best bars in the world. The design is made by Wonderwall, a company specialised in interior design and cool spaces. But let’s not forget the main reason people go there – the view. From so high in the sky you have an astonishing view over Hong Kong.

Also, the cocktails are really tasty and the food is quite delicious.
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How do people find this out so fast :shock: :shock:
Props to u major sleuth
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Ticia is amazing

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But who the fuck am I kidding? I'm mostly just the rotting banana peel at the bottom of the phan trash can who genuinely gets excited over the thought of them snuggling in bed. Idgaf let a bitch live
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tracyzz wrote:How do people find this out so fast :shock: :shock:
Props to u major sleuth
Google is my biatch (thanks, and welcome! :platonic: ).

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Living the high life indeed. When I first saw the photo I wondered if Phil had taken it at that angle to trollingly thwart sleuthing, but there's not much getting away from that jagged pattern. Glad they're having some fun on the way home, they've done pretty well to make the most of the time they've had between stops. So here for shots of Phil's eyes and Dan's nose too
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Moderator Action :
i edited the name of the hotel out just in case they are staying there and it's not an old photo. Once we have definite confirmation they are back in England its fine to post names etc
That place looks stunning, they certainly like sky bars don't they 8-)
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Wow that looks like such a cool place. Good detective skills Ticia.
I am so confused though about where they are now.
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Nice job, Ticia.

I have nothing relevant to add, as per usual. I'm just so jealous of these two and their jet setter lives! That bar looks amazing...
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missemma wrote:
Moderator Action :
i edited the name of the hotel out just in case they are staying there and it's not an old photo. Once we have definite confirmation they are back in England its fine to post names etc
That place looks stunning, they certainly like sky bars don't they 8-)
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I am genuinely curious, what is the point of such action? 10 second google search reveals the name of the bar.
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gnostic wrote:
missemma wrote:
Moderator Action :
i edited the name of the hotel out just in case they are staying there and it's not an old photo. Once we have definite confirmation they are back in England its fine to post names etc
That place looks stunning, they certainly like sky bars don't they 8-)
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I am genuinely curious, what is the point of such action? 10 second google search reveals the name of the bar.
We've adopted an unwritten policy, of sorts, so that we're not a direct source for information that could lead to any harassment.

It's a difficult situation, because we could allow all discussion about Dan and Phil's location, and by doing that we could be increasing the chance of a potentially bad situation happening through our lack of action, or we could stop any discussion - however vague - to do with their location, and end up with a bunch of very unhappy forum members.

We feel that this is, for now, the best way to strike a balance between those.

We're open to suggestions for alternative solutions, if anyone would like to PM a mod, or start a thread in the General Forum Information section.
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