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Re: Dan & Phil part 32...and what a thicc thread it was

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 4:55 pm
by malday
It's like when Dan favorited Virgin America's tweet all over again.

Re: Dan & Phil part 32...and what a thicc thread it was

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 4:58 pm
by lefthandedism
IckleMissMayhem wrote: He was the smol one in '09. you know.. before they were both 6'2!!
This is one of the things that has confused me for a while. Most people seem to think that Dan was shorter initially, and it's reasonable to think an 18-year-old boy hadn't reached his full height (I got taller after 18, and I'm a girl!). And Dan certainly has filled out in a lot of ways before our eyes.

However, there is counterproof to this belief, which I encountered on Phantaray's Tumblr (which I read almost all of before I came here and read almost all of IDB ). See the picture at this link, from Halloween 2009, where the height difference looks about what it is today:

http://phantaray.tumblr.com/post/743905 ... n-2009-you

I'd love it if any old-timers/archivers could weigh in on this!

Re: Dan & Phil part 32...and what a thicc thread it was

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 5:04 pm
by melon lord
LeftHandedism wrote:
IckleMissMayhem wrote: He was the smol one in '09. you know.. before they were both 6'2!!
This is one of the things that has confused me for a while. Most people seem to think that Dan was shorter initially, and it's reasonable to think an 18-year-old boy hadn't reached his full height (I got taller after 18, and I'm a girl!). And Dan certainly has filled out in a lot of ways before our eyes.

However, there is counterproof to this belief, which I encountered on Phantaray's Tumblr (which I read almost all of before I came here and read almost all of IDB ). See the picture at this link, from Halloween 2009, where the height difference looks about what it is today:

http://phantaray.tumblr.com/post/743905 ... n-2009-you

I'd love it if any old-timers/archivers could weigh in on this!
To my knowledge Dan has always been taller than Phil, but Phil also hunches quite badly and Dan has annoyingly good posture, so if Phil stood up straight like Dan, they may be on equal ground.

Re: Dan & Phil part 32...and what a thicc thread it was

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 5:35 pm
by starlight-still
Fast and furious festive surprise gaming with deps every single day until Christmas? Count. Me. In.

There was a bit of talk around here earlier in the year about these two and whether or not they’re pushing themselves or realizing their potential as youtubers. While back then, I was team but-they-wrote-organized-performed-and-toured-a-live-SHOW-on-three-continents, now that I’ve branched out a bit and watched a few other youtubers’ videos, I get the critique. But now we have Gamingmas. This is more than just a fun celebration of deppy bants for all of us to close out the year (though it is very much that). It’s them setting a goal for themselves, challenging themselves, saying to each other, “you and me, kid, we’re gonna make this happen.” And if the tenderness they’ve let shine through more and more in recent videos wasn’t enough to render my insides into something resembling fondant au chocolat, seeing them continue to motivate and challenge each other like this certainly is.

As I’ve taken up residence in the landfill galaxy, I couldn’t resist posting without adding some trashy thoughts, so here they are.

Millionaire

I’m assuming this is their way of promoting the new merch because they are absolute dolls in this. Not much else to say except “Daniel and Philip Howell-Lester” has a nice ring to it. I mean, it just rolls off the tongue (I end up pronouncing it like “How’lester”). Just an observation. Hm

I like seeing confidence shine through in Dan, like when he talks about Greek mythology and geography, even his own intuition. I know his brand is “lolimmafail” but perhaps he’s letting it evolve into something more suitable for a successful mid-twenties professional performer and creator who’s only getting started in his career and has one of the strongest collaborative partnerships in his field. This is not to say you can’t feel like a fail, but we all know there’s a calm and confident guy who puts a lot of thought and effort into his work in there. He can still be humble and kind while letting that guy out to play a bit more, which it seems he’s realizing these days.

I’ll skip the moments since honestly there are so many but shout outs to “child?” and Dan’s soft lil “bro” head butt.

Yandere Simulator

I’m still in shock (or “shook,” as the kids say) that they actually took this one on. Part of me was like “nooo, my little puppies don’t need to see this.” But the other part was like “how yandere can they get and do I actually want to know?” (Not) surprisingly, Dan wanted to take the path of friendship and impressing senpai with your skills (ahem) while Phil was all “let’s join occult club and put a spell on him” and “quick, she’s seen you…stab her.” I also love me some nostalgia!Phil, and he seems to be appearing quite often lately (I feel yah, Philly, with that big 3-0 just around the corner).

Should/will they continue? (spoilery part)
I’ve only seen bits and pieces of the game but would love to see them react to the video game-within-a-game and tongue-in-cheek characters like “Mai Waifu” and “Ronshaku-chan.” They could play through one of the less-gruesome tactical options to keep it PG-13 (there’s the one where you set your rival up with another guy by finding out what she likes and telling the guy who has a crush on her to change himself to have those traits) though I admit their absolute shock and dismay if they do the whole disgrace-Kokona-and-make-her-your-murder-slave would be painful yet hilarious to witness. I dunno…apart from major updates, they may have missed the boat on this one until it’s completed, which, from what I can tell, won’t be for a while.
And, last but not least, moments:
- “Konnichiwa” …Daniel :D
- Dan is letting his oddball side show a bit more this whole video, like when he’s sticking his tongue out in the beginning, the tumblr post comment eyes, “I am the tree,” etc. I love oddball Daniel
- Boy, you know you ain’t getting off the good ship Phannie Pop any time soon.
- Phil: “Where’s the any key??” The kids are right, he is making a beeline for “dad” town these days
- The jump scare :lol:
- Phil: “I want to go back (to Japan)." Aren’t they going back next week or smtg? “Ninja school”? (eyebrow raise)
- Phil: (puts on aloof coolguy jacket and goes extra stubbly for this vid in particular) Also Phil: "Let’s not make senpai look like me." (insert outdated kermit meme)
- Dan: (still gives senpai Phil’s exact eye color)
- Dan actually points at Phil when he says “…for the senpai you feel true love." You don't even have to believe in phan to feel this one
- Dan with his knife sound in the intro, he is red-dee.
- Phil: "People went to kiss there but I never got invited." Dan: (stifled snort) (translation: well feck those losers guess who got the last laugh in the end hahahahaha thelastlaughismypenis)
- Dan reading the voices, omg, could you imagine if they actually, legitimately did voice acting for something like this? I mean hey they’ve got Disney in their portfolios now, they better leverage that shiz
- Phil: “Wear metal panties if you like.” OK, which one of y’all gonna tackle the chastity belt fic?
- Dan’s “Phil.” At 10:15 is everything
- So they go into the basement and their immediate thought is “sex dungeon”?
- LOL, they took long enough to get to the murdery part. Phil, I see you: Image
[offtopic]
Ohh, now this is relevant so I can share it! I stumbled upon this video a while ago and thought it captured the tone of the game in its earliest stages of development (and how a lot of the early testers were approaching it, for better or worse) well. Advisory for minor spoilers and disturbing cartoon violent imagery.

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Re: Dan & Phil part 32...and what a thicc thread it was

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 5:52 pm
by DryCereal
melon lord wrote: To my knowledge Dan has always been taller than Phil, but Phil also hunches quite badly and Dan has annoyingly good posture, so if Phil stood up straight like Dan, they may be on equal ground.
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Re: Dan & Phil part 32...and what a thicc thread it was

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 5:59 pm
by Anonymousse
melon lord wrote: To my knowledge Dan has always been taller than Phil, but Phil also hunches quite badly and Dan has annoyingly good posture, so if Phil stood up straight like Dan, they may be on equal ground.
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I strongly disagree.


Re: Dan & Phil part 32...and what a thicc thread it was

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 6:00 pm
by melon lord
IckleMissMayhem wrote:
melon lord wrote: To my knowledge Dan has always been taller than Phil, but Phil also hunches quite badly and Dan has annoyingly good posture, so if Phil stood up straight like Dan, they may be on equal ground.
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Sometimes I'm not sure either :lol:

I'm not sure where the reaction image is for, though. :? Genuinely confused, was it for Dan's good posture?

Re: Dan & Phil part 32...and what a thicc thread it was

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 6:03 pm
by DryCereal
Okay. Sensible ish time... Watch the gaming documentary, and/or the tour fic or any DITL. They both have HORRENDOUS posture.

And Dan was shorter than Phil up until about 2010-11 ish, then was noticeably taller than him, til nowadays when they are both magically 6'2. Must have a similar tape measure to Mary Poppins.

Re: Dan & Phil part 32...and what a thicc thread it was

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 6:07 pm
by koalaselfie
spaceguitar wrote:
koalaselfie wrote:
Mini rant under the spoiler about Yandere Simulator (not too important; please continue with your day if you want :D ):
My last, additional comment on the Yandere Simulator vid concerns how polarised Dan's opinions are sometimes regarding individuality. He openly claims to support and encourage people to live their lives how they want to -- then calls the girl standing alone by the tree in the game a "loner" and "tree reject" derisively? :? I mean, sure, I'm probably taking his response to virtual characters way too personally, lol, but some of us like to be alone in crowds I had similar feelings when they go up to the group of girls and Dan claims they all "look like they're from Tumblr." Way to generalize a community, as well as chastise your most likely demographic for being 'different' in w/e way (i.e. most likely just their hair colour). Basically, I can never tell whether to take Dan as joking, genuinely reprimanding, and/or projecting, as he himself has claimed to be different and a loner in the past. He's so confusing, smh.
I find this interesting. I personally did not feel put off by Dan's comments, maybe b/c I know that he kind of feels like a loner? I feel like he definitely has his share of social anxiety. Idk, for that reason it seemed like a pretty innocuous judgement to me. Also I found the hair color being attributed to tumblr funny. Its not really a negative generalization, is it?
I'm more inclined to agree with you than disagree; I just think Dan's a bit of a walking contradiction at times and something about that rubs me the wrong way when he has a large audience. (But then maybe I should let him live? ;) ) It's easiest to describe how I feel with a cliché phrase: "don't tar everyone with the same brush." I tend to try and be accepting as possible (definitely not as simple as it sounds, and I promise I'm not bragging, lol, but if you take it like that then that's fine!) and if Dan wants to follow a similar path, which I believe he does, I just feel casual statements catering to the "hating-on-Tumblr-stereotypes" crowd (as some YTers have done in the past, like Pewds for example) isn't the best way to go about this end goal (and I only took the Tumblr comment as a negative generalisation as this tends to be what Tumblr-loathing Internet users define as the audience of Tumblr. I certainly don't personally believe unusual personal expression to be negative!)
Sorry if this isn't as articulate as I hoped :cry:

And apologies for interrupting the height discussion ~revived

Re: Dan & Phil part 32...and what a thicc thread it was

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 6:26 pm
by jesuisunèléve
IckleMissMayhem wrote:
melon lord wrote: To my knowledge Dan has always been taller than Phil, but Phil also hunches quite badly and Dan has annoyingly good posture, so if Phil stood up straight like Dan, they may be on equal ground.
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They both have the most God-awful posture I have ever seen. Dan couldn't stand up straight if there was a board taped to his back and Phil's neck is like at a 45 degree angle from his shoulders. Watching Dan walk (especially Dan) makes my spine ache. Doesn't help that he waddles to begin with.

Don't get me wrong, love the boy but he needs a chiropractor with oodles of patience to get him standing straight.

Re: Dan & Phil part 32...and what a thicc thread it was

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 6:28 pm
by jesuisunèléve
IckleMissMayhem wrote:Okay. Sensible ish time... Watch the gaming documentary, and/or the tour fic or any DITL. They both have HORRENDOUS posture.

And Dan was shorter than Phil up until about 2010-11 ish, then was noticeably taller than him, til nowadays when they are both magically 6'2. Must have a similar tape measure to Mary Poppins.
Dan gained like two inches of torso in 2011-ish.

Re: Dan & Phil part 32...and what a thicc thread it was

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 6:40 pm
by lefthandedism
jesuisunèléve wrote:
IckleMissMayhem wrote:Okay. Sensible ish time... Watch the gaming documentary, and/or the tour fic or any DITL. They both have HORRENDOUS posture.

And Dan was shorter than Phil up until about 2010-11 ish, then was noticeably taller than him, til nowadays when they are both magically 6'2. Must have a similar tape measure to Mary Poppins.
Dan gained like two inches of torso in 2011-ish.
Are there pictures that demonstrate this change? I find the photo I posted the link to earlier (also in dollicious's avatar!) fairly convincing that Dan was taller than Phil in 2009.

I agree though with how hard it is to tell anything without getting distracted by both of their horrendous postures!

Re: Dan & Phil part 32...and what a thicc thread it was

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 6:43 pm
by Moony
Ok I can't bothered to read all of the posts I missed because I am pretty tired, so sorry if this is off topic or somebody said it already

A defense of Yandere Simulator:
I've been following the development of this for a long time now. Yeah, it's not a real game yet and the most important features (aka the weekly rivals) aren't even implemented.
s Video does not really do justice to the actual game. You can do so much than driving against walls in a town and then try to run very fast.
Dan and Phil playing Yandere Simulator would be entertaining if the did research about it though. There is no way to get a "tutorial" on how you're supposed to play it within the game, so it's logical that this videos wasn't a real representation of that

Re: Dan & Phil part 32...and what a thicc thread it was

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 6:49 pm
by Anonymousse
LeftHandedism wrote: Are there pictures that demonstrate this change? I find the photo I posted the link to earlier (also in dollicious's avatar!) fairly convincing that Dan was taller than Phil in 2009.
For example this gif (my favourite gif)
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Re: Dan & Phil part 32...and what a thicc thread it was

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 6:51 pm
by melon lord
jesuisunèléve wrote: They both have the most God-awful posture I have ever seen. Dan couldn't stand up straight if there was a board taped to his back and Phil's neck is like at a 45 degree angle from his shoulders. Watching Dan walk (especially Dan) makes my spine ache. Doesn't help that he waddles to begin with.

Don't get me wrong, love the boy but he needs a chiropractor with oodles of patience to get him standing straight.
Huh, I think I'm getting posture confused with the shape of his back/shoulders, then! (soz english not first language, etc etc) sorry if I made a mistake! :platonic:

Because Dan seems like he keeps his shoulders pretty straight? Whereas Phil's shoulders seem more curved/hunched over, that's what I mean.

Re: Dan & Phil part 32...and what a thicc thread it was

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:03 pm
by sentinel
fancybum wrote:It's a cute tweet to like but I'm cringing at people overreacting to some kind of hidden meaning in it. ~2 inches in height difference does not a backpack make. Personally I'm enjoying his like of the drawing of him & Dan cozy under Dan's blanket together way more.
Oooh, can you share it here? That sound interesting.
LeftHandedism wrote:
IckleMissMayhem wrote: He was the smol one in '09. you know.. before they were both 6'2!!
This is one of the things that has confused me for a while. Most people seem to think that Dan was shorter initially, and it's reasonable to think an 18-year-old boy hadn't reached his full height (I got taller after 18, and I'm a girl!). And Dan certainly has filled out in a lot of ways before our eyes.

However, there is counterproof to this belief, which I encountered on Phantaray's Tumblr (which I read almost all of before I came here and read almost all of IDB ). See the picture at this link, from Halloween 2009, where the height difference looks about what it is today:

http://phantaray.tumblr.com/post/743905 ... n-2009-you

I'd love it if any old-timers/archivers could weigh in on this!
As a Phan Elder: Dan used to be about 5 centimeters shorter than Phil, when Phil would actually stand straight. Then I think Dan hit a last growth spurt and combined with Phil's S shaped spine and his penchant for wearing platform shoes it looks like Dan is significantly taller than him when, in fact, I'd estimate their height difference to be about 2-3cm when Phil stands up straight.

Re: Dan & Phil part 32...and what a thicc thread it was

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:05 pm
by eevee
Some tweets:
I wonder if Dan got that Ribena #spon and what the what is going on with Phil's amazon purchases...new kitten? kitten play?

sentinel this is the tweet probably, more platonic than it sounds:

Re: Dan & Phil part 32...and what a thicc thread it was

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:06 pm
by timetravel
Hi! Just wanted to comment on height issue before going back to lurkdom. I'm pretty sure that Dan said in is formspring answers that phil and stephen are both taller than him.

Re: Dan & Phil part 32...and what a thicc thread it was

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:15 pm
by sentinel
eevee wrote:Some tweets: I wonder if Dan got that Ribena #spon and what the what is going on with Phil's amazon purchases...new kitten? kitten play?

sentinel this is the tweet probably, more platonic than it sounds:
Well, I would lie if I said I'm not disappointed lmao. It's possible he got that #spon, Hazel Hayes kept saying companies should send her wine for Tipsy Talk and someone finally did. If he is not on their payroll he definitely should be considering how often he plugs them haha.

Re: Dan & Phil part 32...and what a thicc thread it was

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:18 pm
by anathema
Anonymousse wrote:
LeftHandedism wrote: Are there pictures that demonstrate this change? I find the photo I posted the link to earlier (also in dollicious's avatar!) fairly convincing that Dan was taller than Phil in 2009.
For example this gif (my favourite gif)
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I always assumed that Phil was standing on something in the background of that vlog. There's another photo/gif somewhere from that same video and Phil looks nearly a whole head taller than Dan. Even if Dan was a little shorter than Phil when they first met, he wasn't that much shorter. I'll try and find the photo later so you can see what I'm talking about.

Edit — not what I was talking about but this kinda proves my point:
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They're basically the same hight here so

Re: Dan & Phil part 32...and what a thicc thread it was

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:20 pm
by Sakura Selfie
sentinel wrote:
eevee wrote:Some tweets: I wonder if Dan got that Ribena #spon and what the what is going on with Phil's amazon purchases...new kitten? kitten play?

sentinel this is the tweet probably, more platonic than it sounds:
Well, I would lie if I said I'm not disappointed lmao. It's possible he got that #spon, Hazel Hayes kept saying companies should send her wine for Tipsy Talk and someone finally did. If he is not on their payroll he definitely should be considering how often he plugs them haha.
Amazon recommends stuff on what you've bought or looked at, he's probably thinking about buying or actually has bought Dan a toy rat for Xmas lol

Re: Dan & Phil part 32...and what a thicc thread it was

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:27 pm
by hopefulemm
Anonymousse wrote:For example this gif (my favourite gif)
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The problem with your gif is that Dan is clearly standing a bit farther away from the camera than Phil, so the perspective is already skewed.

Personally, I've never seen any photos/videos from 2009, with Deppy standing the same distance from the camera side by side, where Dan doesn't look either questionably the same height as Phil or still taller than him.

I love the idea of Dan being shorter, and I've tried looking for photographic proofs, but I haven't seen anything that convinces me. I wish Phil didn't slouch so badly because then maybe I'd be able to see it.

Re: Dan & Phil part 32...and what a thicc thread it was

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:28 pm
by missemma
There is a running theme in these last two videos, they have given me good
wanking!dan and wanking!phil avatars to add to the ever growing collection

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Sakura Selfie wrote: Amazon recommends stuff on what you've bought or looked at, he's probably thinking about buying or actually has bought Dan a toy rat for Xmas lol
It'll be the rats they used in the "weird kid stories" at tatinof.

Re: Dan & Phil part 32...and what a thicc thread it was

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:47 pm
by DeadlyNova
To add to the height discussion, I have nothing to further prove any points, but I agree with those who have said Dan looks either the same height or slightly taller than Phil even in 2009. I've always been confused when people say Dan was shorter than Phil then when in everything I see he either looks taller or the same height.

I mean it's very clear Dan has obviously grown since then, but I'm not sure it's in height. His shoulders have gotten a lot wider and he's gotten..bulkier? I'm not sure if that's the right word for it. You guys know what I mean.

All the pictures I've seen that supposedly proove Phil was taller makes him look a LOT taller, so I feel like he was probably standing on something...I think the best indication of their heights in 2009 is definitely the picture from the Halloween gathering, since they are standing directly side by side.

Maybe part of the reason people think Dan was shorter was because of that old vyou where he said he was six feet tall? IDK. I feel like he just didn't know his own height. I know a lot of people that don't. xD

(This makes me think of an argument I've been having with my best friend for seven years now.....she insists she's taller than me, but we are the exact same height. It will never end. Oh well.)

Re: Dan & Phil part 32...and what a thicc thread it was

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 8:00 pm
by Anonymousse


Explains the weird tweets.