Dan & Phil Part 41: what in domestication

Our two favourite full time internet nerds who never go outside!
Locked
User avatar
flarequake
not an airport stalker
Posts: 2680
Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:55 pm
Pronouns: She/her
Location: London, UK

Those pictures are cute, especially Dan with his fluffy curls and stubbly face. He's got a rival for his good-side head tilt too, I love her hair. That 7sc is funny, he's like a tennis player making all that noise and stretching like that of course makes him look even taller, it's like when my cat stretches out on the bed (funnily enough also wearing all black).
RiriPandaHeart2
phabergé
Posts: 278
Joined: Sat Jun 04, 2016 12:54 pm

[offtopic]Not sure if this offtopic or not, but I don't really understand Daylight Savings cause we don't have it in our country. For you guys in the UK, is Dan's liveshow 30 mins from now or 1.5 hours from now? [/offtopic]
Image
P: What are you doing?

D: I'm feeding it to you.

P: Why is it so slow?
User avatar
DatCog
blobfish
Posts: 675
Joined: Wed Dec 21, 2016 1:51 pm
Pronouns: she/her
Location: UK

RiriPandaHeart2 wrote:[offtopic]Not sure if this offtopic or not, but I don't really understand Daylight Savings cause we don't have it in our country. For you guys in the UK, is Dan's liveshow 30 mins from now or 1.5 hours from now? [/offtopic]
It's tomorrow isn't it?! 24 hours and 20 minutes from now :)

Edited to add: it's 8.41pm here right now.
Last edited by DatCog on Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:43 pm, edited 1 time in total.
RiriPandaHeart2
phabergé
Posts: 278
Joined: Sat Jun 04, 2016 12:54 pm

DatCog wrote: It's tomorrow isn't it?! 24 hours and 20 minutes :)
Oops. Brainfart Sorry about that. But so it'll be 4 am tomorrow my time then (it's currently 3:30 am here) right? Thanks for answering me though. :platonic:

Edit: Just saw that you just posted the time. Thanks so much DatCog
Image
P: What are you doing?

D: I'm feeding it to you.

P: Why is it so slow?
thephandommenace
procrastinator
Posts: 304
Joined: Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:31 pm
Pronouns: they/them
Location: UK

Happy (late) birthday IDB! What a truly magical place.

I couldn't watch the second part of The Mark of Oxin until late this evening, but it came at just the right time for me and left me feeling quite emotional. I hate life right now, but the video was so heartwarming and sweet, and the game itself is pretty amazing work. It's inspired to me to get creative again, like I did when I was younger and full of ambitious enthusiasm, before life gradually stamped out that spark. Here's to the fools who dream.
I'm feeling full-on right now
(a complete 180 from 2 weeks ago... http://indepthbants.com/post53179.html#p53179)

Nothing new to add - the threesome with an angel and her boyfriend, and Dan's speechless face, was indeed the best part for me
I wish Phil could have had more time to round off the story! I wonder if he was ever planning to do more with Emily's character? That could have been a nice twist if she turned around and kicked ass, Buffy-style.
I would play a 8bit RPG in a heartbeat.
karma_yeah
philussy
Posts: 499
Joined: Wed Mar 30, 2016 3:24 am
Location: Houston, TX, USA

rizzo wrote:I might be alone on this one, but I don't want another DanandPhilCRAFTS video. It's not a prank anymore, if we're all expecting it. I need them to pull something wild, like borrow a friend's dog and tell us they got one. Or announce that they're releasing a line of nail decals. I want something new and ridiculous.
I can see both sides: The first one being such a surprise was a big part of what made it exciting. And doing it again a second year was also unexpected -- most people probably thought it was a one-off.

On the other hand, one of the things I love about them is "#traditions". So I like seeing them repeat things. At the same time, I think it really needs to be creative and outside the box or people are going to say "just let it die already". I know they can be very clever and funny. The question is "Will they?".

They may also just be too tired from their super-secret project to put the effort in. I'd rather they did nothing than do a half-assed job.
What goes around, comes around Image
User avatar
MythicalPinkTrashCan
phabergé
Posts: 286
Joined: Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:14 am
Pronouns: she/her
Location: Texas

RiriPandaHeart2 wrote: This is cute.
Why is he so big?! Who gave him that right.
User avatar
pastelspectre
stress mushroom
Posts: 616
Joined: Fri Dec 30, 2016 8:32 pm
Pronouns: he/him

those photos with deppy and the girls aaaa they're all so beautiful the girls have such gorgeous hair and are wearing such nice outfits c: and deppy look amazing as usual, dan's hair looks so poofy and cute! i want to pet it o-o and phil looks cute as heck, i love when he wears black
Image
:transheart:
uglyamerican
woodland creature
Posts: 573
Joined: Sat Apr 23, 2016 11:26 pm
Location: Maryland / US

Dan's not thaaaat tall - the room had low ceilings. MMF: it's not all that uncommon for teens to experiment with threesomes - I have male friends who experienced something similar, but a key factor was that the boys were friends (a shared adventure? mutual support?) AFAIK, they all have gfs now.

Of course I loved the second half of Mark of Oxin, even the seizure inducing Heaven level. I usually don't repeat watch their videos, but I just might with this series. And I have to state for the record that "Alex" is my favorite name for boys (Ian and Evan are 2nd and 3rd (they work really well with my last name.))
User avatar
swofro
angel bean
Posts: 1028
Joined: Sun Mar 27, 2016 6:39 am
Pronouns: she/her
Location: asia

karma_yeah wrote:
rizzo wrote:I might be alone on this one, but I don't want another DanandPhilCRAFTS video. It's not a prank anymore, if we're all expecting it. I need them to pull something wild, like borrow a friend's dog and tell us they got one. Or announce that they're releasing a line of nail decals. I want something new and ridiculous.
I can see both sides: The first one being such a surprise was a big part of what made it exciting. And doing it again a second year was also unexpected -- most people probably thought it was a one-off.

On the other hand, one of the things I love about them is "#traditions". So I like seeing them repeat things. At the same time, I think it really needs to be creative and outside the box or people are going to say "just let it die already". I know they can be very clever and funny. The question is "Will they?".

They may also just be too tired from their super-secret project to put the effort in. I'd rather they did nothing than do a half-assed job.
On the other hand, them pulling another dan and phil craft is truly gonna be funny to them because nobody wants it. And we all know Dan like doing that the most with his famous All Star Smashmouth
Love is forever
Image
flurry
living flop
Posts: 106
Joined: Wed Oct 19, 2016 1:59 pm

I really loved the second Mark of Oxin video. Phil is such a creative chap - at 14 I would never have been able to conceive of such plots. I love the twists that took Dan by surprise. And I especially like how genuinely flattered Phil is when people compliment him, whether it's Dan in these videos or in liveshows when the audience says he makes them happy/looks good today etc.
nephilimcat
woodland creature
Posts: 573
Joined: Thu Sep 15, 2016 12:52 pm
Pronouns: she/her
Location: Germany

uglyamerican wrote: MMF: it's not all that uncommon for teens to experiment with threesomes - I have male friends who experienced something similar, but a key factor was that the boys were friends (a shared adventure? mutual support?) AFAIK, they all have gfs now.
*cough* bisexuality *cough* Okay, some people really just experiment and then ultimately decide that they're straight, but I'd say in most cases there's at least a bit of attraction there. Maybe those guys just happened to fall in love with girls because it's way easier to find a girlfriend than a boyfriend (as a guy)
pulvis et umbra sumus
User avatar
000dia000
emo goose
Posts: 1101
Joined: Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:17 pm
Location: Ireland

nephilimcat wrote:
uglyamerican wrote: MMF: it's not all that uncommon for teens to experiment with threesomes - I have male friends who experienced something similar, but a key factor was that the boys were friends (a shared adventure? mutual support?) AFAIK, they all have gfs now.
*cough* bisexuality *cough* Okay, some people really just experiment and then ultimately decide that they're straight, but I'd say in most cases there's at least a bit of attraction there. Maybe those guys just happened to fall in love with girls because it's way easier to find a girlfriend than a boyfriend (as a guy)
Nah. A MMF threesome can still be an intended hetero thing, and IMO opinion probably what fourteen year old Phil intended, and only present day Phil emphasized the boyfriend-aspect. Unless of course uglyamerican meant these guys all had MMM threesome, then I have questions
:cactus:
gnostic
stress mushroom
Posts: 611
Joined: Mon Mar 28, 2016 8:40 pm

000dia000 wrote:
nephilimcat wrote:
uglyamerican wrote: MMF: it's not all that uncommon for teens to experiment with threesomes - I have male friends who experienced something similar, but a key factor was that the boys were friends (a shared adventure? mutual support?) AFAIK, they all have gfs now.
*cough* bisexuality *cough* Okay, some people really just experiment and then ultimately decide that they're straight, but I'd say in most cases there's at least a bit of attraction there. Maybe those guys just happened to fall in love with girls because it's way easier to find a girlfriend than a boyfriend (as a guy)
Nah. A MMF threesome can still be an intended hetero thing, and IMO opinion probably what fourteen year old Phil intended, and only present day Phil emphasized the boyfriend-aspect. Unless of course uglyamerican meant these guys all had MMM threesome, then I have questions
I agree that MFM can be a fully hetero experience, but in my humble opinion a fully hetero 14 year old would have gone with FFM aka "every redblooded male's dream" unless he either was going for shock humor value or... well... wasn't fully hetero
Just here for the marketing skills
/fɪl lɛstɚ/
sad dimple
Posts: 159
Joined: Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:31 pm
Pronouns: she/her
Location: US

Do people really dislike DanandPhilCrafts that much??
I guess I'm in the small percentage that actually really loves it and is hoping for another one. I know it's expected but I just think they are so funny. I want to see what other kind of weird things they can think of.
Had a dream last night, though, that on Saturday they uploaded a video called "Edit That Out" and it was just a bunch of clips from the first PINOF through the years of them kissing and then being like "Oh, we need to edit that out" and I was shook. I might accept that video instead of DAPC
I am always on Phil Lester's side
User avatar
Birdie
blobfish
Posts: 650
Joined: Sat Nov 05, 2016 8:22 pm
Pronouns: they/them

As with mostly everything deppy related I guess we can't know. Maybe 14yo Phil thought it was a great joke, maybe he included it because he was discovering his bisexuality himself or maybe even both. The thing with stuff like this is that there's never just one possible answer and I think all of the interpretations so far are possible. Phil, unlike Dan, never went back on his statement that he was bi (I think) so that's what I'm going with here but sadly a scene in a game he created as a teen sixteen years ago won't prove anything, it just adds to the speculation and the mystery.

I appreciate you guys reminding everyone that bisexuality even exists though. Bi erasure is ugly.
User avatar
vincentian
hobbit hair
Posts: 255
Joined: Sun Mar 27, 2016 3:49 pm

/fɪl lɛstɚ/ wrote:Do people really dislike DanandPhilCrafts that much??
I guess I'm in the small percentage that actually really loves it and is hoping for another one. I know it's expected but I just think they are so funny. I want to see what other kind of weird things they can think of.
Had a dream last night, though, that on Saturday they uploaded a video called "Edit That Out" and it was just a bunch of clips from the first PINOF through the years of them kissing and then being like "Oh, we need to edit that out" and I was shook. I might accept that video instead of DAPC
I didn't get impression it is disliked (apart from "don't cry craft" thing which is imo amazing), I think some people on here stated that they would love a new one. Maybe the excitement over the last year's video was less, but it was still good?

Knowing that DAPC exists and its history (receiving 100 k silver button at SiTC) makes me very happy, it's a single best thing that happened to D&P in 2015. It may be one of the few things we get from them that is pure silly fun. I really wish they made a new crafts video this year, I don't think that the element of surprise was key. But I wouldn't mind if your dream came true. ;)

happy late birthday idb
User avatar
captainspacecoat
stress mushroom
Posts: 605
Joined: Sun Sep 11, 2016 2:31 am
Pronouns: she/her
Location: Australia

re: bisexuality conundrum - I agree with both gnostic and birdie on this I think - that while this definitely can't be used as conclusive proof that Phil is bi/identified as bi at 14, it is notable that the threesome was MMF (lmao at that sentence, I feel like I'm writing an essay for my gender studies class haha). I do personally find it noteworthy that 14 year old Phil swayed from the norm by implying something other than definitive heterosexuality - he could very easily have had the angel say something like "do you want to join me and my friend/sister?", but Phil of the past deliberately chose not to be ambiguous. I fully acknowledge that me, a bisexual, may very well just be reading too much into it but I do think it's not that deep but is at least somewhat meaningful.

re: possible April Fools vid
- I enjoy the dapCRAFTS videos too, I think they really showcase dnp's sense of humour and are some of their funniest content. I hope they make another this year, or at least do something jokey on the day. However, I don't necessarily enjoy the ongoing reaction from the phandom, i.e. "Don't cry, craft" and "protip", which can be dragged on and I think maybe that's what people are a bit trepidatious about, rather than the actual videos themselves.
houseplant
squish
Posts: 35
Joined: Tue Mar 14, 2017 4:45 pm
Pronouns: she/her
Location: PHIL-ippines

/fɪl lɛstɚ/ wrote:Do people really dislike DanandPhilCrafts that much??
I guess I'm in the small percentage that actually really loves it and is hoping for another one. I know it's expected but I just think they are so funny. I want to see what other kind of weird things they can think of.
i LOVE danandphil crafts to bits and pieces (is that a pun? i feel like it is) because their expressions and words are so on point with that kind of odd, creepy humour, it's hilarious. i literally shed tears watching the two vids, negl. i literally cried, then crafted. not going to be disappointed at all with a new one.

also, real question, as i have not been in the phandom long, but do dan and phil not generally leave the flat without the other? christ, i honestly thought that stories about how they rarely leave the flat and are always together were exaggerated for shippy purposes.
User avatar
Catallena
classy cat lady
classy cat lady
Posts: 3192
Joined: Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:56 pm
Location: The Netherlands

gnostic wrote:
000dia000 wrote:
nephilimcat wrote:
uglyamerican wrote: MMF: it's not all that uncommon for teens to experiment with threesomes - I have male friends who experienced something similar, but a key factor was that the boys were friends (a shared adventure? mutual support?) AFAIK, they all have gfs now.
*cough* bisexuality *cough* Okay, some people really just experiment and then ultimately decide that they're straight, but I'd say in most cases there's at least a bit of attraction there. Maybe those guys just happened to fall in love with girls because it's way easier to find a girlfriend than a boyfriend (as a guy)
Nah. A MMF threesome can still be an intended hetero thing, and IMO opinion probably what fourteen year old Phil intended, and only present day Phil emphasized the boyfriend-aspect. Unless of course uglyamerican meant these guys all had MMM threesome, then I have questions
I agree that MFM can be a fully hetero experience, but in my humble opinion a fully hetero 14 year old would have gone with FFM aka "every redblooded male's dream" unless he either was going for shock humor value or... well... wasn't fully hetero
Generalizing to the max here, but 14 year old boys tend to think of most sex acts (and especially more 'outlandish' ones like threesomes) as a combination of funny and fascinating. It's why they're insufferable dicks in sex ed classes. It's more of a joke to them than anything else I think. Many don't even realize MFM threesomes can be a bisexual thing as most of their exposure to such things comes from porn and the first billion results on any given porn website will give you hetero only videos.

Of course, things like a joke like that can always point to a sexual preference at that age but since Phil specifically wrote that into the game as a dirty joke I'm somewhat skeptical about the significance of that moment. I won't deny that it's interesting though. Or that Phil is bi.
Image
Twitter *•.(★).•* Tumblr
User avatar
alittledizzy
actual demon phannie
actual demon phannie
Posts: 7100
Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2016 3:09 pm
Pronouns: she/her

captainspacecoat wrote:re: bisexuality conundrum - I agree with both gnostic and birdie on this I think - that while this definitely can't be used as conclusive proof that Phil is bi/identified as bi at 14, it is notable that the threesome was MMF (lmao at that sentence, I feel like I'm writing an essay for my gender studies class haha). I do personally find it noteworthy that 14 year old Phil swayed from the norm by implying something other than definitive heterosexuality - he could very easily have had the angel say something like "do you want to join me and my friend/sister?", but Phil of the past deliberately chose not to be ambiguous. I fully acknowledge that me, a bisexual, may very well just be reading too much into it but I do think it's not that deep but is at least somewhat meaningful.
I agree that it's noteworthy! I feel like people are deliberating trying to ignore context in order to discount it, which is my confusion in the argument here. It's not proof of anything regarding Phil's sexuality, but who says everything discussed here is proof of something...? I thought the conversation was 'did confirmed-bisexual-as-an-adult Phil include it because he's bisexual', not 'does this prove he's bisexual'? I dunno why anyone would need this to confirm he's bi when he himself did it and indeed never took it back.

I'd rather enjoy talking about it as a new insight into Phil than everything come down to proof and if it isn't proof then it's just dismissed from discussion.
User avatar
rizzo
unduly facetious
unduly facetious
Posts: 1792
Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2016 3:18 am

/fɪl lɛstɚ/ wrote:Do people really dislike DanandPhilCrafts that much??
I guess I'm in the small percentage that actually really loves it and is hoping for another one. I know it's expected but I just think they are so funny. I want to see what other kind of weird things they can think of.
Had a dream last night, though, that on Saturday they uploaded a video called "Edit That Out" and it was just a bunch of clips from the first PINOF through the years of them kissing and then being like "Oh, we need to edit that out" and I was shook. I might accept that video instead of DAPC
I should clarify that I don't hate DanandPhilCrafts at all. I love it. I think it's one the greatest things they've done and I constantly rewatch it for a good laugh. But for the sake of a good prank, I'd love something new. That's not to say I don't want more DanandPhilCrafts (though under what circumstances?? IDK), only that I want to be pranked.
houseplant wrote:also, real question, as i have not been in the phandom long, but do dan and phil not generally leave the flat without the other? christ, i honestly thought that stories about how they rarely leave the flat and are always together were exaggerated for shippy purposes.
I feel like this could apply pretty generally to a lot of phandom things even down to the basic concept of believing they're together. You don't quite believe how legit it is until you see it for yourself. But welcome to the phandom, where we don't need to make up the romantic/dependent behavior, Dan and Phil actually do it for us.

That being said, the answer to your question is that yes, they rarely leave the house without one another unless one is away for family and/or work purposes (both of which they've also definitely done together anyway). That or they're running a quick errand/buying a treat, in which case they get one for their other half. It's cute. And gross. And very real.
trashqueen
ar·tic·u·late
Posts: 421
Joined: Sun Mar 27, 2016 1:46 am
Pronouns: she/her
Location: south america

alittledizzy wrote:
captainspacecoat wrote:re: bisexuality conundrum - I agree with both gnostic and birdie on this I think - that while this definitely can't be used as conclusive proof that Phil is bi/identified as bi at 14, it is notable that the threesome was MMF (lmao at that sentence, I feel like I'm writing an essay for my gender studies class haha). I do personally find it noteworthy that 14 year old Phil swayed from the norm by implying something other than definitive heterosexuality - he could very easily have had the angel say something like "do you want to join me and my friend/sister?", but Phil of the past deliberately chose not to be ambiguous. I fully acknowledge that me, a bisexual, may very well just be reading too much into it but I do think it's not that deep but is at least somewhat meaningful.
I agree that it's noteworthy! I feel like people are deliberating trying to ignore context in order to discount it, which is my confusion in the argument here. It's not proof of anything regarding Phil's sexuality, but who says everything discussed here is proof of something...? I thought the conversation was 'did confirmed-bisexual-as-an-adult Phil include it because he's bisexual', not 'does this prove he's bisexual'? I dunno why anyone would need this to confirm he's bi when he himself did it and indeed never took it back.

I'd rather enjoy talking about it as a new insight into Phil than everything come down to proof and if it isn't proof then it's just dismissed from discussion.


i really really don't understand why people are so focused on the 3% chance phil might actually be straight somehow and ignoring who that 14 yo phil becomes, context is a lovely thing that explains a lot

also i stand by my position that straight 14 yo boys don't add mmf threesomes to their video games, especially in the way that it was done in this game, where it wasn't pointed out as a joke in a 'lol this is so weird anD GAY' way, maybe kids these days are more open minded, but not in 2001

basically:
Image
Dan Howell wrote:'[someone] just sent me a message saying 'Phil'..... same'
nephilimcat
woodland creature
Posts: 573
Joined: Thu Sep 15, 2016 12:52 pm
Pronouns: she/her
Location: Germany

alittledizzy wrote:
I agree that it's noteworthy! I feel like people are deliberating trying to ignore context in order to discount it, which is my confusion in the argument here. It's not proof of anything regarding Phil's sexuality, but who says everything discussed here is proof of something...? I thought the conversation was 'did confirmed-bisexual-as-an-adult Phil include it because he's bisexual', not 'does this prove he's bisexual'? I dunno why anyone would need this to confirm he's bi when he himself did it and indeed never took it back.

I'd rather enjoy talking about it as a new insight into Phil than everything come down to proof and if it isn't proof then it's just dismissed from discussion.
That's how I viewed the discussion (and almost all discussions on here) as well. I don't think anyone actually said that this proves that Phil is bi. We just discussed whether it could be an indicator or what it could mean. The only proof for Phil being bisexual would be him saying that he is and you could say that he did that once, but he doesn't actively use that label (or any label), therefore it's not right to call him bisexual.

And I am not a threesome-expert, but I just found the idea of a teenage boy including a MMF threesome instead of a FFM one quite intriguing. My experience in school was that all comments from teenage boys that could possibly be seen as gay came always with a no homo connotation, which Phil didn't deliver. And as others pointed out, he added "and her boyfriend", when Dan mentioned that they just had a threesome with an angel. I find this very interesting, but it's obviously no proof.

Because I am bisexual, I will chime in whenever someone says something that could possibly be bi erasure or could possibly mean that someone is bisexual. I just need to clarify that bisexuality is real and I get excited when other people are bi, sorry not sorry. Not saying you were trying to erase bisexuality, uglyamerican, I'd like to believe that wasn't your intention, but I am just very sensitive when it comes to this topic because bi erasure is a real thing I have to deal with all the time :?
pulvis et umbra sumus
User avatar
pilotlight
#relatable
Posts: 368
Joined: Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:20 pm
Pronouns: he/him
Location: Canada

trashqueen wrote:also i stand by my position that straight 14 yo boys don't add mmf threesomes to their video games, especially in the way that it was done in this game, where it wasn't pointed out as a joke in a 'lol this is so weird anD GAY' way, maybe kids these days are more open minded, but not in 2001
Agreed. This was my experience, anyway, although I'm a few years younger than Phil. It makes me wonder how his friends reacted to that part of the game. He could've still played it off as a "lol, GAY" joke but I think most guys that age would of made the interaction about a mff threesome in the first place. It just seems like an easier joke that's not as likely to provoke teasing, so I think it's interesting that he didn't do that.
Locked