Dan & Phil Part 42: lying makes you go to hell

[malday]

fitting message:

[lurker]

i sincerely hope replying to "do you have any more pictures to share" with that photo was intentional on phil's behalf and sassy!phil is on the rise.

[SexyTrashCan]

fitting message:

[fancybum]

I get both your points auri and cherrybomb3 and I think that is the simplest (and probably therefore the most accurate) explanation, but I dunno, it still seems 'off' to me that they would be so hyper self-aware all the time, unless as pilotlight said, it's a byproduct of being closeted previously - which admittedly is something I didn't consider.

It's not even about being closeted, it's about society being a shitshow. As has been brought up like a hundred times by now, Jimmy0010 made a great video that mentioned how he has never held his boyfriend's hand in public, ever (which would suggest they're also not sitting in each other's laps or putting heads on shoulders etc in public), and they've been together for over 5yrs. He's not ""closeted"", he's labelled himself gay (is he defaulted back to closeted when walking the streets unless he's announcing his sexuality with each step and/or kissing his boyfriend the entire time?). But everybody is assumed straight out in the wild, and unfortunately you never know who's going to have a problem with seeing something that looks wrong to them and their worldview until they're up in your face being aggressive. Tweens with snapchat probably aren't first or even second on the list of why D&P haven't been "caught" being affectionate in public. A country's 'acceptance' of other sexualities (basically just meaning your existence and potential happiness (say with marriage or whatever)) aren't entirely limited by law) doesn't extend to feeling comfortable/safe everywhere you go. People are not their country's laws. People are assholes.

[rizzo]

I get both your points auri and cherrybomb3 and I think that is the simplest (and probably therefore the most accurate) explanation, but I dunno, it still seems 'off' to me that they would be so hyper self-aware all the time, unless as pilotlight said, it's a byproduct of being closeted previously - which admittedly is something I didn't consider.

It's not even about being closeted, it's about society being a shitshow. As has been brought up like a hundred times by now, Jimmy0010 made a great video that mentioned how he has never held his boyfriend's hand in public, ever (which would suggest they're also not sitting in each other's laps or putting heads on shoulders etc in public), and they've been together for over 5yrs. He's not ""closeted"", he's labelled himself gay (is he defaulted back to closeted when walking the streets unless he's announcing his sexuality with each step and/or kissing his boyfriend the entire time?). But everybody is assumed straight out in the wild, and unfortunately you never know who's going to have a problem with seeing something that looks wrong to them and their worldview until they're up in your face being aggressive. Tweens with snapchat probably aren't first or even second on the list of why D&P haven't been "caught" being affectionate in public. A country's 'acceptance' of other sexualities (basically just meaning your existence and potential happiness (say with marriage or whatever)) aren't entirely limited by law) doesn't extend to feeling comfortable/safe everywhere you go. People are not their country's laws. People are assholes.

We don't have a "thanks" button here on IDB, but this is my version of it. This post is perfect.

I think this also applies to Dan and Phil's reality overall. When people ask why Dan and Phil don't just come out (after all, everyone in the Phandom would only be happy about it).... It's really not about the Phandom or the supportive internet population that wants to know. It's about everyone else and the world's reaction at large. And as shitty as it is, it's not always a good one.

As for Yasuhati 2.0... Again, a true relief it wasn't Horse Prince. And, though I watched it in pieces throughout the day, I absolutely loved it. There's nothing that warms the cockles of my cold heart more than a shameless, yodeling Phil.

[pearshaped34]

I think there a lot of good arguments as to why D&P may not be together (enough to make me remain very much on the fence about the matter) but why they have never been caught kissing and cuddling in public is not one of them as far as I'm concerned.
A wild subscriber could appear at any given time why would they risk outing themselves like that? Plus as others say many same sex couples don't feel comfortable being affectionate in public in case there's a wild homophobe about. And of course there are also couples who simply don't like PDA. There are many valid reasons for the to be discreet in public.

That being said as for the original question of why they are sitting so far apart; why not? Yes they often choose to sit very close to one another but I doubt that is a rule they live by and sometimes like to stretch out in their own personal space.

[QuiteFriendly]

I get both your points auri and cherrybomb3 and I think that is the simplest (and probably therefore the most accurate) explanation, but I dunno, it still seems 'off' to me that they would be so hyper self-aware all the time, unless as pilotlight said, it's a byproduct of being closeted previously - which admittedly is something I didn't consider.

It's not even about being closeted, it's about society being a shitshow. As has been brought up like a hundred times by now, Jimmy0010 made a great video that mentioned how he has never held his boyfriend's hand in public, ever (which would suggest they're also not sitting in each other's laps or putting heads on shoulders etc in public), and they've been together for over 5yrs. He's not ""closeted"", he's labelled himself gay (is he defaulted back to closeted when walking the streets unless he's announcing his sexuality with each step and/or kissing his boyfriend the entire time?). But everybody is assumed straight out in the wild, and unfortunately you never know who's going to have a problem with seeing something that looks wrong to them and their worldview until they're up in your face being aggressive. Tweens with snapchat probably aren't first or even second on the list of why D&P haven't been "caught" being affectionate in public. A country's 'acceptance' of other sexualities (basically just meaning your existence and potential happiness (say with marriage or whatever)) aren't entirely limited by law) doesn't extend to feeling comfortable/safe everywhere you go. People are not their country's laws. People are assholes.

We don't have a "thanks" button here on IDB, but this is my version of it. This post is perfect.

to both of you

[lurker]

I get both your points auri and cherrybomb3 and I think that is the simplest (and probably therefore the most accurate) explanation, but I dunno, it still seems 'off' to me that they would be so hyper self-aware all the time, unless as pilotlight said, it's a byproduct of being closeted previously - which admittedly is something I didn't consider.

It's not even about being closeted, it's about society being a shitshow. As has been brought up like a hundred times by now, Jimmy0010 made a great video that mentioned how he has never held his boyfriend's hand in public, ever (which would suggest they're also not sitting in each other's laps or putting heads on shoulders etc in public), and they've been together for over 5yrs. He's not ""closeted"", he's labelled himself gay (is he defaulted back to closeted when walking the streets unless he's announcing his sexuality with each step and/or kissing his boyfriend the entire time?). But everybody is assumed straight out in the wild, and unfortunately you never know who's going to have a problem with seeing something that looks wrong to them and their worldview until they're up in your face being aggressive. Tweens with snapchat probably aren't first or even second on the list of why D&P haven't been "caught" being affectionate in public. A country's 'acceptance' of other sexualities (basically just meaning your existence and potential happiness (say with marriage or whatever)) aren't entirely limited by law) doesn't extend to feeling comfortable/safe everywhere you go. People are not their country's laws. People are assholes.

We don't have a "thanks" button here on IDB, but this is my version of it. This post is perfect.

to both of you

agreed with everything, thanks for making these posts

[alittledizzy]

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[alittledizzy]

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[saffarinda]

I think there a lot of good arguments as to why D&P may not be together (enough to make me remain very much on the fence about the matter) but why they have never been caught kissing and cuddling in public is not one of them as far as I'm concerned.
A wild subscriber could appear at any given time why would they risk outing themselves like that? Plus as others say many same sex couples don't feel comfortable being affectionate in public in case there's a wild homophobe about. And of course there are also couples who simply don't like PDA. There are many valid reasons for the to be discreet in public.

That being said as for the original question of why they are sitting so far apart; why not? Yes they often choose to sit very close to one another but I doubt that is a rule they live by and sometimes like to stretch out in their own personal space.

I totally agree with everything you said! People have this image of couples always sitting as close together as possible, when in reality they're perfectly comfortable sitting apart - they don't need to be attatched at the hip every second aha.

About the homophobic thing - two friends of mine who used to be in a relationship went to McDonalads one time, and got called faggots for holding hands - and they stopped any PDA quite quickly as a result.

Whenever I flirt with girls myself I feel like I'm less likely to be called out for anything, because most people just see it as girls being affectionate with one another ('gal pals' ) guys are often called out for it much more quickly due to those stereotypical masculine roles in society sigh.

[cherrybomb3]

Whenever I flirt with girls myself I feel like I'm less likely to be called out for anything, because most people just see it as girls being affectionate with one another ('gal pals' ) guys are often called out for it much more quickly due to those stereotypical masculine roles in society sigh.

roses are red, the moon's made of cheese
toxic masculinity is a disease

[Birdie]

I don't have anything else to add but I'd really like to thank everyone for the last couple posts. So many great points!

[saffarinda]

Whenever I flirt with girls myself I feel like I'm less likely to be called out for anything, because most people just see it as girls being affectionate with one another ('gal pals' ) guys are often called out for it much more quickly due to those stereotypical masculine roles in society sigh.

roses are red, the moon's made of cheese
toxic masculinity is a disease

there needs to be a like or thumbs up system on here just for this

[DatCog]

Wonder if they're still in Singapore or on their way home.

Edited to add:

[realeyesrealize]

[bluebox-away]

You okay there Daniel?

Edit: also, since when the hell is he above posting shameless cute selfies lmao? Need I remind anybody of the fuckboy plaid shirt photo from approx 3 days ago amongst many others?

[Sakura Selfie]

Checkin instagram comments to crowdsource his self esteem

[auri]

that photo tho the long gone (.........) danfan danperson? what's the gender neutral version for dangirl/danboy? in me is rising. also is this a selfie or picture taken by phil?

i'm really on a mood apparently don't mind me anyway, didn't dan say in his last ls that they'll be gone for three weeks? hasn't it only been two or? as in he wouldn't be doing live shows for three weeks. i might be wrong though.

// edit: i'm smol bean! can i be smol bean forever?

[SexyTrashCan]

Really Dan?

[bantstrash]

I think they might be on their way to Florida if they are going there with Phil's family before playlist.

Do we think Dan is joinging them?

[cherrybomb3]

I think they might be on their way to Florida if they are going there with Phil's family before playlist.

Do we think Dan is joinging them?

do we really need to ask

[SexyTrashCan]

I think they might be on their way to Florida if they are going there with Phil's family before playlist.

Do we think Dan is joinging them?

do we really need to ask

Very true.

Also, bantstrash-nice avatar

[vortexofphan]

Barb from Stranger Things replied to him. She's also on Riverdale, both of which he has praised. It's a weird little world colliding thing there. How much do you think Dan is freaking out right now?

[/fɪl lɛstɚ/]

Barb from Stranger Things replied to him. She's also on Riverdale, both of which he has praised. It's a weird little world colliding thing there. How much do you think Dan is freaking out right now?

#justicefordan ?