Dan & Phil Part 47: Do it with Dan!

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I really enjoyed the I AM BREAD video.

And as someone with a history of self-harm, I didn't even think of the joke in that context? Like, he was talking about bread...
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I thought the last few minutes of trying to get the bread in, aka the peak frustration part, was hilarious, especially when it fell in the cat litter at 9:45.

I loved all the squeaking at the end-
Phil: "In the cat litter!?"
Dan, literally snorting: "It's Okay!"

"does this...does this mean it's gonna toast? Is it toasting?" Also, was "I AM TOAST' Dan's most bloodcurdling scream yet?

What was that chest-pat at the end, honestly, Phil, control yourself (except don't).

As well as compiling every time Dan's like "never say that again", someone should compile all the times he says something is the worst/most-stressful moment of his life.

And "Together, we are bread."
"Together we ARE the bread".
It was such a "We Are Groot" moment.
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My two fave moments:

8:29 - The way Phil is so shocked and scared by the bread and almost grabs Dan and shakes him is so funny - especially when his hands just hover mid-air for a moment in shock.

12:30 - Just Phil's responses to Dan ohmygod

Dan: "What sickos out there would want me to do this again?"

Phil *high pitched*: "Meee"

Dan: "Do you want the end of my life?"

Phil, in voice of cats from that video: "Yasss"
Also these bits were gold.
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I think I must have been the only one who didn't enjoy the video. Just like happy wheels, I am bread was hilarious to me 2 years ago when everyone was playing it but watching d&p just made me feel annoyed. Especially when they basically cheated with the infinite edibility

I also think what annoyed me that Phil didn't get a chance to play. I was expecting to have Phils turn next. Seemed a but unfair.

Idk I just need to rewatch it again I think. The bants were cute like always. Wasnt a fan if the cutting joke either.
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Am I the only one who couldn't stand Dan this video? :? I got used to him being more dominant in videos and sometimes cutting Phil short, but I found it so extreme in this video, and I got heavily annoyed when he said "this was the xy OF MY LIFE" for the third time in like 5 minutes. Aah I'm sorry, I don't wanna spread negativity, you all seem to have enjoyed the video!
However, i agree with your opinions on Phil (and the corgi shirt). His commentary was so funny, and he seemed to be in a great mood. I'm glad he's so happy recently (I'm also glad that Dan's happy, even if he annoys the hell out of me sometimes ).
Yeah same Dan annoys me when he does stuff like that- I hate how he acts like he's better than Phil at everything sometimes (my opinion I don't care for pointless disagreements on this- look closely it's true) there's so many little jabs dan makes toward Phil in videos- subtly calling him stupid (bomb disabling video thing) - and telling Phil that he was horrible at doing the voiceover thing in the horse videos (cmon did u even look at Phils face after that?? He had the same expression I wore on my face when ppl told me I wasn't good enough and it hurt me and I never said anything (but then I learned to be more assertive so yay)) it's little, insignificant things that are happening more and more often and getting more and more significant to the point where I just prefer Phil content now when before I used to prefer 'dan and phil' content. dans sweet too- he stands up for Phil and stuff which is good; I'm not overlooking that. I just hope that's not actually how they interact off camera I hate the whole "dominant submissive" discussion because shouldn't they be equals?? I'm just going to leave it st this: locking someone out for 10 minutes in Florida heat sounds super funny- it does- and I get that that was a joke but something about that made me uncomfortable and I feel like there's a Point where a line is crossed and I think Dans crossed that multiple times- he's your friend- don't leave him outside and take pics- the whole visual of that just bothers me. Does that just show how comfortable they are with each other or just how comfortabke Dan is treating Phil any way he wants?? or maybe I'm just being too sensitive or critical?? Idk tell me you opinions because I would love to know- please don't attack me because umm there's no point? I feel u disagree do so respectfully. If not then eh I really don't care. Both of them are great people- but their dynamic is just getting a bit... off is all I'm saying. Also good luck on finals ~ learn all abiut enthalpies, stoichiometery, trig identities, and whatever other classes yall are taking.
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Kathrynxjane wrote:I also think what annoyed me that Phil didn't get a chance to play. I was expecting to have Phils turn next. Seemed a but unfair.
Phil did actually have his turn and played the game for a bit.
Same.
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SquishPhan wrote:
Kathrynxjane wrote:I also think what annoyed me that Phil didn't get a chance to play. I was expecting to have Phils turn next. Seemed a but unfair.
Phil did actually have his turn and played the game for a bit.

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That's how much you can tell I paid attention to the game definitely need to rewatch then
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I agree with what some people have been saying about Dan being a tad to "dominant" in the recent videos. I found the same goes for their collabs on Phil's channel - e.g. if you look at the "We're moving" video, it's clearly Dan leading the conversation. I don't care about their dynamics when they camera is off, but for the personas they display on their channels I wished for Phil to be more than the "silly sidekick" that he's become.
Of course I am stuck in some sort of confirmation bias loop here, but if I think back to the recent google guessing game, what stayed in my mind was Phil's (silly) comments on the Loch Ness monster and Dan making fun of it - once again, I believe that Phil's a grown man and it's a show they put on and that they don't drag into their personal lives, but it's bothering me still. Phil is a smart guy with tons of professional and life experience and education. I wish that side would show a bit more.
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Am I the only one who couldn't stand Dan this video? :? I got used to him being more dominant in videos and sometimes cutting Phil short, but I found it so extreme in this video, and I got heavily annoyed when he said "this was the xy OF MY LIFE" for the third time in like 5 minutes. Aah I'm sorry, I don't wanna spread negativity, you all seem to have enjoyed the video!
However, i agree with your opinions on Phil (and the corgi shirt). His commentary was so funny, and he seemed to be in a great mood. I'm glad he's so happy recently (I'm also glad that Dan's happy, even if he annoys the hell out of me sometimes ).
Yeah same Dan annoys me when he does stuff like that- I hate how he acts like he's better than Phil at everything sometimes (my opinion I don't care for pointless disagreements on this- look closely it's true) there's so many little jabs dan makes toward Phil in videos- subtly calling him stupid (bomb disabling video thing) - and telling Phil that he was horrible at doing the voiceover thing in the horse videos (cmon did u even look at Phils face after that?? He had the same expression I wore on my face when ppl told me I wasn't good enough and it hurt me and I never said anything (but then I learned to be more assertive so yay)) it's little, insignificant things that are happening more and more often and getting more and more significant to the point where I just prefer Phil content now when before I used to prefer 'dan and phil' content. dans sweet too- he stands up for Phil and stuff which is good; I'm not overlooking that. I just hope that's not actually how they interact off camera I hate the whole "dominant submissive" discussion because shouldn't they be equals?? I'm just going to leave it st this: locking someone out for 10 minutes in Florida heat sounds super funny- it does- and I get that that was a joke but something about that made me uncomfortable and I feel like there's a Point where a line is crossed and I think Dans crossed that multiple times- he's your friend- don't leave him outside and take pics- the whole visual of that just bothers me. Does that just show how comfortable they are with each other or just how comfortabke Dan is treating Phil any way he wants?? or maybe I'm just being too sensitive or critical?? Idk tell me you opinions because I would love to know- please don't attack me because umm there's no point? I feel u disagree do so respectfully. If not then eh I really don't care. Both of them are great people- but their dynamic is just getting a bit... off is all I'm saying. Also good luck on finals ~ learn all abiut enthalpies, stoichiometery, trig identities, and whatever other classes yall are taking.
I agree with the first bolded part. He often talks down to Phil, and it makes me so uncomfortable. I know, I know, this is a discussion which has probably been there before, and I think Dan once set a statement where he said that it was all fun and Phil knows that? I mean, maybe that's it. Maybe Phil isn't bothered by it at all, in which case, okay. What I also noticed was that Dan not only talks over Phil a lot, he also ignores his comments sometimes, probably cause being so focused on the game, while Phil responds to almost everything Dan says. Idk, maybe that hurts me so much because I had a friendship like this once, and it makes you feel kinda worthless. However, of course I'm not Phil and I can't say anything about his feelings.

About the second part - tbh, I got the impression that he did not leave him outside for literally 10 minutes, but more for like 1 or 2, to take the photo and see him getting desperate, which I found funny. Even if he left him outside for 10 minutes - they are best friends, and best friends to the shittiest things to each other sometimes
LtrllySusan wrote:I agree with what some people have been saying about Dan being a tad to "dominant" in the recent videos. I found the same goes for their collabs on Phil's channel - e.g. if you look at the "We're moving" video, it's clearly Dan leading the conversation. I don't care about their dynamics when they camera is off, but for the personas they display on their channels I wished for Phil to be more than the "silly sidekick" that he's become.
Of course I am stuck in some sort of confirmation bias loop here, but if I think back to the recent google guessing game, what stayed in my mind was Phil's (silly) comments on the Loch Ness monster and Dan making fun of it - once again, I believe that Phil's a grown man and it's a show they put on and that they don't drag into their personal lives, but it's bothering me still. Phil is a smart guy with tons of professional and life experience and education. I wish that side would show a bit more.
I also agree with, well, actually all of that (well written!). I think Phil has a lot more potential than to be the funny guy who throws comments in. There is a lot of difference between the Phil we see in the gaming videos with Dan and the Phil we see in Liveshows, for example in the last one. Of course that's not only because of Dan, but also because it's a different kind of video - a LS gives you much more opportunity for deeper conversations, while a gaming video, especially when you get easily hyped like Phil, can let you seem younger, "less mature".

After all, this isn't supposed to be a rant about Dan. I just wished he wouldn't talk over Phil so much, because it feels disrespectful, makes me uncomfortable and also I want to hear what Phil has to say sometimes, too!


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loonyradish wrote:Am I the only one who couldn't stand Dan this video? :? I got used to him being more dominant in videos and sometimes cutting Phil short, but I found it so extreme in this video, and I got heavily annoyed when he said "this was the xy OF MY LIFE" for the third time in like 5 minutes. Aah I'm sorry, I don't wanna spread negativity, you all seem to have enjoyed the video!
I didn't realise he said it that many times until I saw a compilation video on Tumblr.
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Just thought I'd mention that Dan and Phil have constructed this dynamic for the purpose of humour. Obviously, I don't mean they change the second they get off the camera to completly different people - but Phil saying more amusing, offhanded, slightly absurd comments and Dan acting as the incredulous friend who then takes control is a structure they've stuck with for years. For the purpose of videos and the "Dan and Phil" brand, they'd use it - but I heavily doubt that they're anything but equals (bar messing with each other, like the locking out - but everyone messes around with their best friends) in their lives.

But I sometimes find Dan's reactions hilarious. Like with the "Lochness Monster" - let's be honest, if you're friend said they thought it was an elephant, would you take them seriously in that moment? Because I'd probably react like Dan.

I feel as though their dynamic could do with some updating, Phil showing off his saracstic, sassy side would be amazing (just some of the stuff in his latest LS was hilarious). But then you're left with two similar people. Their dynamic may not be the same in the eyes of some (casual viewers) and will then lose what makes them "Dan and Phil". So I doubt it'll happen.
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I actually think Dan's dominance in videos isn't as bad as it used to be (though Phil being the commentary giving sidekick more than a player on the gaming channel will always annoy me especially in The Sims) but maybe I've just gotten used to it after all this time.
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LtrllySusan wrote:I agree with what some people have been saying about Dan being a tad to "dominant" in the recent videos. I found the same goes for their collabs on Phil's channel - e.g. if you look at the "We're moving" video, it's clearly Dan leading the conversation. I don't care about their dynamics when they camera is off, but for the personas they display on their channels I wished for Phil to be more than the "silly sidekick" that he's become.
Of course I am stuck in some sort of confirmation bias loop here, but if I think back to the recent google guessing game, what stayed in my mind was Phil's (silly) comments on the Loch Ness monster and Dan making fun of it - once again, I believe that Phil's a grown man and it's a show they put on and that they don't drag into their personal lives, but it's bothering me still. Phil is a smart guy with tons of professional and life experience and education. I wish that side would show a bit more.
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Okay now to address the point, I'd like to point out that Phil usually acts the same, its just varying levels of energy that he shows in videos. I fully believe someone can be educated and professional and still be a total goofball that listens to porn podcasts while running the treadmill (IM SO NOT OVER THAT CONFESSION ) and eats way too much candy for an aging individual thats body isnt going to be breaking down sugar as fast. Its always somethingIve admired about phil, his confidence to act is whatever way that makes him happy without allowing standard age codes to define and limit his behavior. Also why are professionality and seriousness expected in an individual that is educated? Id take a friend that lives his laugh making bad puns and having a consistent smile on his face vs someone who was serious and snobby on what they acheived. Phil does display some seriousness and professionality when he has to (aka the tour doc) but he also enjoys living his way a bit, and being silly and making weird noises and that eagle face he adores way more than we do, its just phil.

Also with the Dan thing, this HAS always been their dynamic. As dizzy has pointed out several times, Phil does give as much as he takes (or he atleast tries). If you think about it, Dan usually has to control the game chosen and is undoubtedly left with the stress and frustration while phil laughs at his demise and I think its his way of getting back to him? I actually thought Phil was just as sassy as Dan was in this video (dont let the pretty smile fool you!) and even laughed when he said he wanted death. Dan adores Phil, that is fact, and every time he says something that some view insulting/mean, I just see the fond crinkles of his eye or the small smile that phil usually does in response. Dan is LOUD that's where the difference lies, he needs something to say during the video so he work off phil being the sillier one to give him leverage, moreso for the sake of comedy and bater then actual spite/annoyance. Don't worry I spent most of 2013/2014 hitting my head on the wall at why Phil wanted to brand as the weird/silly sidekick that needs to consistently be put down for the sake of their dynamic but it has improved SO much and I can see now that it was a business move more than anything. They don't actually do that in their daily lives or in say joint liveshows, its just a dynamic/dynamic they chose more for the gaming channel and kept throughout. I personally enjoy the games when phil is the dominant one and dans a bit quieter because I find that boy hilarious and I enjoy him taking control and making the endless stream of commentary that always makes me crack up.

Ill end the topic with this: when living with someone for that long and taking them everywhere you go, including a family trip, you have to REALLY like that person and know HOW to communicate when the other is being a shit and I think by now they've got it so we dont have to worry., they have it figured out. :bigthumbsup

*takes moment to appreciate how great phils been in the last liveshow and videos* The coming out of shell and being more open with the audience is honestly giving me life. I literally want to have phil be on a podcast and just talk about all his thoughts out because they really are remarkable.

Fave video bit: Dans hair is the best, moistest and curliest its ever looked at its giving me life. Phils commentary was gold throughout, also yassss to white bread and butter Phil is such a judgement gran at times shading the people in the game for keeping their kitchen so dirty.

Fave commentary:
"Dad take me to the toaster" okie phil.. (judging not judging)
"imagine its spider man BUT BREAD"
"flap it to the side"
"imagine youre a pice a toast and want to fling youself into a toaster, that wasnt really a metaphor but you can do it!!"

Phils almost orgasm and noises of satisfaction at the idea of the toast finally going inside made me die

Also the relief on dans face when he finally did complete it :D

cutting comment:
The cutting comment from Dan was a bit :? :? . I guess we can contexualize it to video/bread but in the scene he addressed it this how it went:

the bread was hitting the knife repeatedly
phil: be careful youre going to cut yourself (yourself being bread)
dan: "good, I'm about that life"

Dont get me wrong when I say dan is one of the most conscious and self aware people I follow but the joke seemed very cheap and off-putting. Like it was said intuitively for the sake of relatability but wasn't given much thought??
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i was gonna write something, but now all i have to say is that i agree with literally everything kuensukki said
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kuensukki wrote:
"imagine youre a pice a toast and want to fling youself into a toaster, that wasnt really a metaphor but you can do it!!"
Phil's commentary was on point, this line was great.

Cutting Comment
Reading through here after watching the video, I had no idea what comment of Dan's you guys were talking about. I figured I must not have heard it, which was strange, but whatever.

Then a bit later I saw some context and realised it was his 'I'm about that life', which at the time I took to mean he likes to cut his pieces of bread in half. I remember thinking 'yeah, sometimes it's good to cut it, the man makes a fair point', dwelling on that sweet bread discourse for half a second, then moving on.

I'm pretty convinced that Was the joke Dan was making. It's the kind of bs he usually comes up with, bless him, whereas a cutting comment isn't. I'm thinking the other interpretation didn't occur to them, then or in editing, like it didn't to me.
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Catallena wrote:I actually think Dan's dominance in videos isn't as bad as it used to be (though Phil being the commentary giving sidekick more than a player on the gaming channel will always annoy me especially in The Sims) but maybe I've just gotten used to it after all this time.
yeah, i wanted to say something similar -- i find some older videos not quite as enjoyable due to that (think "dan and phil play sonic 4" or blindfolded portal 2), but none of the recent ones have stood out to me with respect to that. in contrast, i personally have had the impression that their dynamics on the gaming channel are currently in a progression, especially with phil. dan will probably always be better at the actual gameplay, but as long as phil keeps up his trash-talk and makes fun of him right back, i'm fine. i also don't mind dan doing more of the controlling since it seems clear that phil doesn't mind watching either. i just hope they don't come up with any more games for dvps where phil is objectively worse (or stop doing them altogether...cough...more co-ops please...) and bless us with some solo phil gaming content one day again (shelter 2...it's been 84 years...).
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aleanna wrote:And as someone with a history of self-harm, I didn't even think of the joke in that context? Like, he was talking about bread...
Same for the history of self-harm, but the joke doesn't seem to make such sense in just the context of the bread. Maybe I just don't get it? I don't know, but it made me extremely uncomfortable.
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Thanks for the reply, kuensukki, I appreciate your insight.
I didn't mean that I want Phil to rebrand into someone he is not. I just meant that their personas sometimes seem a bit one-dimensional and reiterate the same interaction patterns. I really don't want to start a comparison war so I won't name any other youtubers, but I believe they could show a few more facets without hurting their main image that they have built.

I think the gaming channel could suit that best, seeing that games are carriers of emotions anyways. And I think that that can be beneficial to engage with the audience too. For example, there are games that address anxiety or even suicide that other Let's Players have played and given their thoughts on. I would never see either D or P making a main channel video on things like this, but through a game, they could still show a different side of their persona, maybe with some more intimate thoughts. And, surely, there are games that would also allow for other topics to be discussed too; this was just one example. That is why I would love for them to play Life is Strange, because it's about morals and I find that to be an extremely interesting topic, so I would really like to hear what they think about such things.

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I also have a history of self harm and Dan's comment upset me a bit.

I honestly have no idea if he meant it like that - I really hope he didn't - but that definitely made me feel a bit shit. It sounded exactly like all the other hundreds of horrible "jokes" that friends or enemies or random strangers have made in my direction. Lets face it, SI is hugely stigmatized and very poorly understood by the general population and in that context flippant comments about it can be really upsetting.

Perhaps I'm just feeling a bit more sensitive at the minute because it's the time of the year where I have to wear short sleeve shirts (or become a sweatmonster) and face the world's ignorance and prejudice. As soon as Phil said "don't cut yourself" I was thinking 'oh no please no' because Dan and Phil obviously want the gaming channel to be entertaining - which means jokes. It must be difficult to focus on a game AND jokes and bants at the same time - half the time they're probably not aware what they're saying. That's where editing comes in, though, so you can go back and think 'wtf was I saying?' and fix it.

It's not like a huge dealbreaker or anything for me. I'm not turning in my stan card or anything, lol. But I do wish Dan had just not said anything - or that his comment had been edited out.
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So many good points to reply to.

One theory on the cutting comment that I haven't seen here, but that I did see on Tumblr, is that he could be referring to a knife play kink, which would be right in line with Dan's humor. But I agree it wasn't clear and should have been edited out.

Re: dominance and Dan's treatment of Phil on camera. I can see where some of the earlier concerns come from. And the talking over at least can be frustrating to me in some of their collabs (I hate seeing Phil swallow what he was going to say). But I also agree that the silly comment and incredulous reaction are definitely their schtick and (most likely) does not reflect their personal dynamic. Dan adores Phil, it I see apparent in everything they do and while I hope that they treat each other as equals in their partnership, in instances like joint liveshows you can see Dan deferring to Phil about what they can say/share (like when TABINOF first came out). They have come a long way from Sonic 4 and Crash Bandicoot (so painful to watch) and have definitely refined their humor. Do I still want to see more sassy, smart, dominant Phil? Absolutely. Sign me the heck up. But I also don't want to loose "unintentional" innuendo, bad puns and silly facts Phil with Dan's apologizing on his behalf and looks of disbelief, because that bit is pure gold. So a subtle shift to allow both would be great.

Other stuff: Husband thoroughly enjoyed I Am Bread and has an unfortunate desire to try it, but doesn't want to pay for it. Wonder Woman is great and I'm glad Dan enjoyed it. Dan does seem like he is trying to get unfollowed by Corbyn. I'm enjoying the fan made voting memes and commissioned one with Phil posing on his bed in a flower crown, because I have no photoshop skills but the idea wouldn't leave my head. We bought a bucket of Maltesers at Target last night and they are sooo much better than Whoppers (I actually hate Whoppers) the chocolate is better on the outside and the inside is more airy but also chewier, like honeycomb. We then proceeded to watch a few videos featuring Maltesers. Check out your local Hot Topic (if you have one), the two near us still have Corgi shirts. And umm stay hydrated. Meme: http://softdanielhowell.co.vu/post/161622887394
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autumnhearth wrote:So many good points to reply to.

One theory on the cutting comment that I haven't seen here, but that I did see on Tumblr, is that he could be referring to a knife play kink, which would be right in line with Dan's humor. But I agree it wasn't clear and should have been edited out.
Oooooh! Thank God, I thought they had actually made a self harm joke. I still think it should've been edited out though.

Edit: Okay I saw this and ngl I'm kinda freaking out. Seriously wtf

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LtrllySusan wrote:Thanks for the reply, kuensukki, I appreciate your insight.
I didn't mean that I want Phil to rebrand into someone he is not. I just meant that their personas sometimes seem a bit one-dimensional and reiterate the same interaction patterns. I really don't want to start a comparison war so I won't name any other youtubers, but I believe they could show a few more facets without hurting their main image that they have built.
I think the difference in opinion here might be that some of us are recognizing Phil now as someone who is definitely showing more facets of his personality and is way less one-dimensional than he was, esp in the 2014/2015 era. This Phil who giggles and pokes and snaps back and tells Dan that he wants Dan's death and makes sexual commentary is so many sides of Phil that we didn't get before.

And I'm just repeating kuensukki, but Phil absolutely gives back as good as he gets. I think people are judging based on demeanor more than content. Dan is loud; Phil is not. But that doesn't mean Phil's comments don't count just because he doesn't screech them at top volume. It also doesn't mean that because Dan is loud and negative sometimes that his supportive/helpful comments don't exist or count.

I also think Phil only played briefly because Phil only wanted to play briefly. He's said before that he doesn't have the patience for things that require a lot of concentration and precise movements. It would have been a 90 minute video of Phil dying constantly if Phil had controlled it for a while, and I don't think either of them found the game fun or entertaining enough to do that. I don't mind Dan taking the controls when it's something Phil genuinely couldn't/doesn't want to do. Especially not with how into commentating on Dan's gameplay Phil actually was.
autumnhearth wrote:But I also agree that the silly comment and incredulous reaction are definitely their schtick and (most likely) does not reflect their personal dynamic.
I think like most things that this is their natural dynamic exaggerated slightly for the camera. We have stories from both of them confirming that they watch each other play video games and that when Phil finds something too tedious or loses interest that Dan takes over. I can very easily see Phil swapping from playing to commenting (sometimes obnoxiously) on whatever Dan is doing.
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autumnhearth wrote:So many good points to reply to.

One theory on the cutting comment that I haven't seen here, but that I did see on Tumblr, is that he could be referring to a knife play kink, which would be right in line with Dan's humor. But I agree it wasn't clear and should have been edited out.
Oooooh! Thank God, I thought they had actually made a self harm joke. I still think it should've been edited out though.

Edit: Okay I saw this and ngl I'm kinda freaking out. Seriously wtf

https://youtu.be/zxEBQchTMjo
Missed the editing window but I realized it's just the exams video being shown as private for some reason.
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Used to self-harm, and I took it as Dan referring to bread (sliced bread over just loaves). Don't see any reason for people to freak out about it, considering the context.
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Holy shit, I knew jacksepticeye had moved to Brighton but my brain didn't fully grasp what that actually meant. He just posted a video with PJ (i can't watch yet :( ) but I'm having a breakdown now realizing how much closer he is now (geographically) to D&P. Next time they're there for PJ, HE WILL ALSO BE IN THE SAME TOWN. Upgrade the 3-way dates now that pewds is full trash. But like. Collab? Will Sean and Dan yelling in the same room over each other completely phase Phil out of this realm?? Tune in next week to find out on: Please Collab I Don't Ask For Much.
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fancybum wrote:Will Sean and Dan yelling in the same room over each other completely phase Phil out of this realm??
RIP our eardrums, as entertaining as this would be

I don't have much to say about the bread video that hasn't already been said. I didn't find it very interesting, other than bits of Phil's commentary. The game itself just made my frustration levels shoot through the roof! I tried QWOP for something like 30s before giving up completely so I don't punch my computer screen haha

Re: Dan and Phil's dynamic: I find their stilly-Phil-and-straight-man-Dan double act schtick tiring sometimes, especially when that's the only notable comedy in an entire video. I didn't think this one was particularly bad, mostly because if I was playing that game with someone, I'd much, much rather just sit and watch and poke fun because lord knows I'd have no patience to actually play it. I think they both rather Dan do the playing on the harder (to control) games, since Phil wouldn't have fun with it, and I think that when Phil is concentrating, he gets a bit incoherent Not to say that Dan is particularly coherent with his comments, but he's a bit better than Phil. I'd love to see Phil control things more in games like the Sims vids though. Those don't require much finesse and it'd be nice to see.
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