Dan & Phil Part 51: Master of Erotic Massages
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 11:55 pm
so this is an...000dia000 wrote:There's been a lot of subtle hints dropped by Dan and Phil, dragging Phil's "emo look" and how Phil is the last emo, still holding onto it in vain, etc. Does anybody else think they're dropping hints to prepare us for Phil's drastic hair and fashion makeover? Maybe "that week in March" was a failed haircut appointment.
Ah yes, a truly iconic gifcherrybomb3 wrote:also catallena (i think thats how your name is spelt too lazy to check properly) i slightly miss your tea drinking signature thing it was v clean and sophisticated
It's when they told Fabrice they were gonna ditch him and he got so angry he started threatening them by sending them heads of horses and shit and that's why they moved into this flat even though their forever home is still being constructed000dia000 wrote:There's been a lot of subtle hints dropped by Dan and Phil, dragging Phil's "emo look" and how Phil is the last emo, still holding onto it in vain, etc. Does anybody else think they're dropping hints to prepare us for Phil's drastic hair and fashion makeover? Maybe "that week in March" was a failed haircut appointment.
I accept this as canon and I'll be disappointed if it's anything other than this.000dia000 wrote:There's been a lot of subtle hints dropped by Dan and Phil, dragging Phil's "emo look" and how Phil is the last emo, still holding onto it in vain, etc. Does anybody else think they're dropping hints to prepare us for Phil's drastic hair and fashion makeover? Maybe "that week in March" was a failed haircut appointment.
Not a bad theory, Fabrice has been far too clipper-happy of late. I like my Phils a bit overgrown and fluffy.Catallena wrote: It's when they told Fabrice they were gonna ditch him and he got so angry he started threatening them by sending them heads of horses and shit and that's why they moved into this flat even though their forever home is still being constructed
The stairs are definitely inside their apartment. You can see the desk in the clip from the video and in this pic.SneakyLizard wrote: Those stairs... do you guys think they're basement/outside the actual apartment type stairs? Maybe it's just an attempt at industrial chic that wasn't quite right. The rest of the place looks so nice and the stairs look wrong in comparison. And the door by the mirror also looks unfinished/very basic. Puzzling, given the ceiling/window/pretty floor situation.
I'm IDB's resident Fabrice anti idk why he hates Phil but he keeps giving him awful haircuts and I need it to stop.SneakyLizard wrote:Not a bad theory, Fabrice has been far too clipper-happy of late. I like my Phils a bit overgrown and fluffy.Catallena wrote: It's when they told Fabrice they were gonna ditch him and he got so angry he started threatening them by sending them heads of horses and shit and that's why they moved into this flat even though their forever home is still being constructed
yea i 100% had super scene/ emo friends who could not get jobs due to their hair/piercings/ style. my best friend had to move in with her grandparents bc her mom was super preppy and she was emo af.jaej wrote:
i got into emo stuff as it was dying and scene culture was way bigger (but the uk was a couple years behind the us for that stuff imo) but it had some weird aspects with acceptance and intersectionality and things. was demonised at about 2005-2008 for encouraging self harm, but emo/scene culture did have massive issues with body issues, being very caucasian, fetishising bisexuality (lots of queer people enjoyed the welcoming community, myself included, but being hot (str8) emo boyz with tight jeans making out for likes was a thing). when people did make fun of people JUST for being in the subcultures, it could become horrific. had a lot of male friends being beat up at age about 14, and the jessi slaughter/blood on the dancefloor story shows how a CHILD into alternative culture could be treated so horribly even after a horrific thing - in and outside of the scene (not going to post it here, massive content warning for rape, pedophilia, basically most things, if you want to search for the story)
yes you said it better hacaptainspacecoat wrote:
Vanderlyle very much agree with your post! Emo/scene kids were definitely bullied for not fitting in with the mainstream, and much of the disdain for them was rooted in their expression of gender and sexuality. I also agree with others who've said the whole video was tongue-in-cheek - they were very much taking the piss out of themselves and other ex-emos. They weren't actually trying to insinuate that emos are systemically oppressed like other minorities, or to genuinely compare their suffering to that of LGBT+ people currently, they were making fun of themselves and their teen years as emos. They were ridiculing the idea of 'emo' as 'victim' - the joke was that obviously emos are not exactly an oppressed minority, but that emo is now looked upon by most people as a pretty cringeworthy subculture (prompting them to exaggerate feelings of cringe and embarrassment when looking back on their pasts). I may be wrong, but that was my interpretation. Having said that though, it's perfectly valid I think to feel uncomfortable by the video
Okay I was thinking the exact same thing the first time I watched it. What made me do a double-take was the fact that Dan complained about his neck hurting earlier in the video, there was a convenient (but, tbf, not necessarily out of place) jump-cut, and then later on he brings up erotic massages. My initial thought was that Phil gave him a neck rub or something like that, and then since massages were in the forefront of his mind, they slipped into his stream-of-consciousness rambling while he was in The Zone. "Erotic massages" just seemed so unrelated to anything that had happened on-screen, but also wasn't weird or "out there" enough to be a comedic non sequitur (if that makes any sense lmao).Loafer wrote:In honor of this threads title, I wanted to share my new pet theory / headcanon. I think there was originally a massage in the crash bandicoot video, but it didn't make the final cut. The first time I watched the video, there was a part where I remember thinking that they had just gotten back from taking a break or something, idk what it was, subtle shifts in their position or behavior idk idk and now I'm so overwhelmed by the video every time I rewatch I can't find that part again but ANYWAYS I'm betting there was a part where they both get extra frustrated and Dan ended up giving Phil a quick lil shoulder rub and Phil got kinda into it and Dan was all "this is gonna get flagged" and so later Dan was referencing that moment with his erotic massages comment. Except they decided it was a bit much and cut it out so his comment was just random without context. I think it's likely tbh?? Unless he was referencing something random that nobody picked up on.
I agree, emo and its fashion and the (mostly anonymous) online culture it harbored allowed people to express gender and sexuality how they wanted, which obviously attracted a ton of lgbt kids. So, the comment about losing jobs,friends, family caught me off guard but it really wasn't out of place IMO.Vanderlyle wrote:
yea i 100% had super scene/ emo friends who could not get jobs due to their hair/piercings/ style. my best friend had to move in with her grandparents bc her mom was super preppy and she was emo af.
also, i can't help but think that the people who are upset about this "making fun of lgbtq people" must not have lived through the early-aughts emo scene. the emo scene WAS the lgbtq community in many, many ways. the harassment that subculture endured was inseparable from lgbt harassment. the guys were always assumes to be gay or "girl", girls were harassed for being "bi sluts" etc, etc. Like - the negative assumptions/ harassment towards emo culture were rooted in sexuality.
biker dudes are a subculture too, but they aren't harassed largely due to the "macho man" connotations.
Let me add some fuel to the flames. Did anyone else think it was a bit odd that Anthony credited Phil as just "Phil" and not "AmazingPhil" in the Philthony collab even though Dan was "Daniel Howell" in the Danthony one? The video titles are wtf am i doing (ft. Phil) and Stop saying we look alike! (ft. Daniel Howell) respectively. I'm not saying Phil is going to rebrand to "Phil", but maybe he'll start going by Phil Lester or something.sparkle wrote:so this is an...000dia000 wrote:There's been a lot of subtle hints dropped by Dan and Phil, dragging Phil's "emo look" and how Phil is the last emo, still holding onto it in vain, etc. Does anybody else think they're dropping hints to prepare us for Phil's drastic hair and fashion makeover? Maybe "that week in March" was a failed haircut appointment.
hang on I'm missing something
better. So this is an idea, maybe that week in March was brainstorming ideas for an AP rebrand? Or maybe a new joint channel? Could be possible that Phil is going to rebrand following another move? But his hair has come up SO MANY TIMES recently that I think we're bracing for impact. Still black, but maybe goodbye emo fringe?
Can I add even more fuel to this and say he's rebranding to Phil Howell and Anthony just didn't wanna give away the rebranding yet! Once Phil totally 1000% rebrands to the last name Howell, then the video title will change!!!! (side note, I've been loving all these "theories" on here the past few days!)somethingsketchy wrote:Let me add some fuel to the flames. Did anyone else think it was a bit odd that Anthony credited Phil as just "Phil" and not "AmazingPhil" in the Philthony collab even though Dan was "Daniel Howell" in the Danthony one? The video titles are wtf am i doing (ft. Phil) and Stop saying we look alike! (ft. Daniel Howell) respectively. I'm not saying Phil is going to rebrand to "Phil", but maybe he'll start going by Phil Lester or something.sparkle wrote:so this is an...000dia000 wrote:There's been a lot of subtle hints dropped by Dan and Phil, dragging Phil's "emo look" and how Phil is the last emo, still holding onto it in vain, etc. Does anybody else think they're dropping hints to prepare us for Phil's drastic hair and fashion makeover? Maybe "that week in March" was a failed haircut appointment.
hang on I'm missing something
better. So this is an idea, maybe that week in March was brainstorming ideas for an AP rebrand? Or maybe a new joint channel? Could be possible that Phil is going to rebrand following another move? But his hair has come up SO MANY TIMES recently that I think we're bracing for impact. Still black, but maybe goodbye emo fringe?
On the other hand, how absolutely hilarious would it be if Phil rebranded to Phil? Like, how many other well-known Phils are there on YouTube? There is, of course, Philip DeFranco (who is a snek I'm going to pretend doesn't exist), but out of those two, our Phil is definitely the OG one.confusedpanda wrote:Can I add even more fuel to this and say he's rebranding to Phil Howell and Anthony just didn't wanna give away the rebranding yet! Once Phil totally 1000% rebrands to the last name Howell, then the video title will change!!!! (side note, I've been loving all these "theories" on here the past few days!)somethingsketchy wrote:Let me add some fuel to the flames. Did anyone else think it was a bit odd that Anthony credited Phil as just "Phil" and not "AmazingPhil" in the Philthony collab even though Dan was "Daniel Howell" in the Danthony one? The video titles are wtf am i doing (ft. Phil) and Stop saying we look alike! (ft. Daniel Howell) respectively. I'm not saying Phil is going to rebrand to "Phil", but maybe he'll start going by Phil Lester or something.sparkle wrote:so this is an...000dia000 wrote:There's been a lot of subtle hints dropped by Dan and Phil, dragging Phil's "emo look" and how Phil is the last emo, still holding onto it in vain, etc. Does anybody else think they're dropping hints to prepare us for Phil's drastic hair and fashion makeover? Maybe "that week in March" was a failed haircut appointment.
hang on I'm missing something
better. So this is an idea, maybe that week in March was brainstorming ideas for an AP rebrand? Or maybe a new joint channel? Could be possible that Phil is going to rebrand following another move? But his hair has come up SO MANY TIMES recently that I think we're bracing for impact. Still black, but maybe goodbye emo fringe?
Also I haven't posted in a few days but all the videos have been really good/funny. I really need to go back and rewatch the crash bandicoot video soon, that one had me in tears from laughing. Also can't wait for tomska's new video with dan!
I didn't think the stairs were in that section of the house (though it would be logical as the clip before that is filmed in the lounge there) because the stairs in the video have metal railing and in that photo it's glass? For me it seemed like they are stairs that lead to some sort of storage place because of their honestly fairly ugly appearance and the lack of illumination from the area below. I would say they filmed there because it enabled Phil to film Dan going down the stairs in a frontal angle which would have been impossible in the stairs of the lounge. But I could be totally wrong.obscureDnPreference wrote:The stairs are definitely inside their apartment. You can see the desk in the clip from the video and in this pic.SneakyLizard wrote: Those stairs... do you guys think they're basement/outside the actual apartment type stairs? Maybe it's just an attempt at industrial chic that wasn't quite right. The rest of the place looks so nice and the stairs look wrong in comparison. And the door by the mirror also looks unfinished/very basic. Puzzling, given the ceiling/window/pretty floor situation.
The glass looks good in this photo but the actual stairs from the video don't look as aesthetically pleasing as the rest of the apartment. I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND THIS APARTMENT.
EDIT: The glass railing of the stairs is obvious in that photo, but it the video it looks like something white is covering it? A white couch perhaps?