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This is our eighth IDB Phandom Watch Fest, and this time, it's... SAVE US FROM THIS DROUGHT EDITION!
You all picked one video from each channel - AP, DINOF and DAPG. Let's watch these videos, judge them, enjoy them, make timestamps, notes and get some bants going here!
We're only using IDB , which means everyone will start their video in their own browser. This watch fest will run the whole day - pop in whenever you have the time!
Videos:
1: Trying To Live My Truth
2: HAVING A BLAST - Dan and Phil play: Keep Talking And Nobody Explodes
3: Dan and Phil AND DOGS!
Discuss the differences, make timestamps or notes, list what you like or don't like - just chat!
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IDB Watch Fest #8 - Drought Edition
Questions to consider - add your own!
(you can pick and choose, you don't have to answer them all)
(you can pick and choose, you don't have to answer them all)
1. What do you think was Dan's message in Trying To Live My Truth?
2. What did you think of the fandom's response to Trying To Live My Truth?
3. Did you enjoy Keep Talking And Nobody Explodes, or did it stress you out?
4. What impressed you the most when it comes to their cooperation?
5. Be honest. Do you really think they'll get a dog?
6. Favorite moment out of the dog video?
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So "Trying to live my truth" first
Wow first, this video makes me so uncomfortable. I guess it's because
1) dinof is not my fav content
2) It's one of those videos that seem to be very important for Dan and I feel like you can feel this "pressure"
3) After Dan's joke and him backtracking, it kinda leaves a sour taste in my mouth! haha
It's literally 13 SECONDS in and I have this sensation that Dan is not made for this anymore. My opinion may be influenced by the current situation but I feel like the heart is not in it and that he makes (i mean made) videos because it is his job but i feel like it's not the best place for him to grow, as we know he's always growing and changing! Dunno, it's just a thought i just had. I feel like "being a youtuber" is this small space that is too small for Dan who needs a big open space to explore all his possibilities!
Also what "bothers" me is that in this video, Dan talks about what makes him feel bad and it's kinda triggering for me, because i'm not feeling well and i don't want to see/hear other people trying to work on themselves and on the whole, this video just gives me a lot of anxiety you see ? (Also because Dan reminds us things that are not happy, like : "you don't have long on this planet" Well shut up Danny some people are trying to forget okay! haha
Also, the whole perpective of "finding true happiness" is something i don't understand because i don't think it's possible to find true happiness, so it put an even greater distance between me and the video.
In the same way, i don't really understand the concept of "living your truth" so this video is the kind i don't understand. BUT that's not at all because of Dan, it's just me, my perspective!
The "Laughter, food and sex" always makes me smile so much. I'm gonna say something that may sound weird but hearing Dan saying having sex (with Phil) makes him happy makes me soft. Like, of course it makes him happy but.... it. makes. him. happy. you know ?
But I find it interesting that he so openly talked about sex, to me i feel like it's so different from making innuendos, because this time it was in a video which theme was to be true. I guess it was a way to test the waters for maybe future references ?
Anyway, this video just makes me uneasy and uncomfortable but it's not dan's fault, it's my own issues being thrown into the mix!
1. If I only knew! No i think i get it (a bit) but for me, this video is more for him than for us. What i mean is that when the video came out, it was a period of personal reflection for him which led him to some personal conclusions and he made the video because he thought that could be an example for us to follow, a way to help us to! It's like : " i did that, seems to be a good idea, i recommend"
But tbh, I don't understand Dan on a deep emotional level like other people do.
2. Concerning the fandom's reaction, i get why that happened, Dan is known for backtracking and it is very frustrating.
Keep Talking and Nobody Explodes!
I actually watched this series last week so i didn't watch it again but i just love it. First it was one of the first videos i've watched of them, my best friend asked if i wanted to watch dan and phil's new video with her, and i said yes and i remember laughing so much. I still laugh a lot watching it. The game is amazing, it's so original and it's perfect for their dynamic! There are so many bants and they seem so happy to play it! It's just so wholesome and I could watch it over and over again!
3. Strangely it doesn't stress me out! I mean it must have stressed me out the first time I watched it but in a good way! Now i'm never stressed when i watch it because i know how it ends.
4. I'm impressed that they can communicate so easily (maybe because i'm bad at communicating) but also : HOW DONT THEY GET MAD AT EACH OTHER? i know they get mad at each other in their daily lives, especially during games but for this specific type of game, i think it's very impressive! Maybe because it's not a traditional game (Not like Crash Bandicoot, etc) they are aware that they don't know if they can make it, so less pressure.
Dan and Phil and Dogs
Ugh... the hair! Imagine this video with Phil's quiff?
First, Martyn got this idea, Martyn is the mvp, Martyn is our king.
1:22 : Am i the only one thinking Dan looks very tired ? but not in a "i woke up early" kind of way
1:40 : the innuendoes!
2:14 : dan's skin is beautiful!
5:37 : i always laugh out loud at phil's joke!
This whole video makes me smile so much! It's perfect. We have happy dnp, dog content and bants. You can't beat that.
I just love when they do little vlog things like this. (but only when it's on their terms and they are confortable doing it, because it changes the whole video otherwise). I don't have much to say, i'm literally smiling too much.
6. LOLA THE POMORENIAN
But from watching these videos, but mostly dan's, i want to ask: Do you think they have outgrown the youtube era, especially Dan? Should they (or just Dan) start working in other field, and what fields?
I just feel personally that this is a crossroads and i don't want them to pursue in the path of youtube because they think that this is what we want (when we can totally say that they have no freaking idea of what we want).
Wow first, this video makes me so uncomfortable. I guess it's because
1) dinof is not my fav content
2) It's one of those videos that seem to be very important for Dan and I feel like you can feel this "pressure"
3) After Dan's joke and him backtracking, it kinda leaves a sour taste in my mouth! haha
It's literally 13 SECONDS in and I have this sensation that Dan is not made for this anymore. My opinion may be influenced by the current situation but I feel like the heart is not in it and that he makes (i mean made) videos because it is his job but i feel like it's not the best place for him to grow, as we know he's always growing and changing! Dunno, it's just a thought i just had. I feel like "being a youtuber" is this small space that is too small for Dan who needs a big open space to explore all his possibilities!
Also what "bothers" me is that in this video, Dan talks about what makes him feel bad and it's kinda triggering for me, because i'm not feeling well and i don't want to see/hear other people trying to work on themselves and on the whole, this video just gives me a lot of anxiety you see ? (Also because Dan reminds us things that are not happy, like : "you don't have long on this planet" Well shut up Danny some people are trying to forget okay! haha
Also, the whole perpective of "finding true happiness" is something i don't understand because i don't think it's possible to find true happiness, so it put an even greater distance between me and the video.
In the same way, i don't really understand the concept of "living your truth" so this video is the kind i don't understand. BUT that's not at all because of Dan, it's just me, my perspective!
The "Laughter, food and sex" always makes me smile so much. I'm gonna say something that may sound weird but hearing Dan saying having sex (with Phil) makes him happy makes me soft. Like, of course it makes him happy but.... it. makes. him. happy. you know ?
But I find it interesting that he so openly talked about sex, to me i feel like it's so different from making innuendos, because this time it was in a video which theme was to be true. I guess it was a way to test the waters for maybe future references ?
Anyway, this video just makes me uneasy and uncomfortable but it's not dan's fault, it's my own issues being thrown into the mix!
1. What do you think was Dan's message in Trying To Live My Truth?
2. What did you think of the fandom's response to Trying To Live My Truth?
1. If I only knew! No i think i get it (a bit) but for me, this video is more for him than for us. What i mean is that when the video came out, it was a period of personal reflection for him which led him to some personal conclusions and he made the video because he thought that could be an example for us to follow, a way to help us to! It's like : " i did that, seems to be a good idea, i recommend"
But tbh, I don't understand Dan on a deep emotional level like other people do.
2. Concerning the fandom's reaction, i get why that happened, Dan is known for backtracking and it is very frustrating.
Keep Talking and Nobody Explodes!
I actually watched this series last week so i didn't watch it again but i just love it. First it was one of the first videos i've watched of them, my best friend asked if i wanted to watch dan and phil's new video with her, and i said yes and i remember laughing so much. I still laugh a lot watching it. The game is amazing, it's so original and it's perfect for their dynamic! There are so many bants and they seem so happy to play it! It's just so wholesome and I could watch it over and over again!
3. Did you enjoy Keep Talking And Nobody Explodes, or did it stress you out?
4. What impressed you the most when it comes to their cooperation?
3. Strangely it doesn't stress me out! I mean it must have stressed me out the first time I watched it but in a good way! Now i'm never stressed when i watch it because i know how it ends.
4. I'm impressed that they can communicate so easily (maybe because i'm bad at communicating) but also : HOW DONT THEY GET MAD AT EACH OTHER? i know they get mad at each other in their daily lives, especially during games but for this specific type of game, i think it's very impressive! Maybe because it's not a traditional game (Not like Crash Bandicoot, etc) they are aware that they don't know if they can make it, so less pressure.
Dan and Phil and Dogs
Ugh... the hair! Imagine this video with Phil's quiff?
First, Martyn got this idea, Martyn is the mvp, Martyn is our king.
1:22 : Am i the only one thinking Dan looks very tired ? but not in a "i woke up early" kind of way
1:40 : the innuendoes!
2:14 : dan's skin is beautiful!
5:37 : i always laugh out loud at phil's joke!
This whole video makes me smile so much! It's perfect. We have happy dnp, dog content and bants. You can't beat that.
I just love when they do little vlog things like this. (but only when it's on their terms and they are confortable doing it, because it changes the whole video otherwise). I don't have much to say, i'm literally smiling too much.
5. At first, i was convinced. But then there was dan's comment, how the dog is just a way to fill the void inside. And Now Phil is saying : i can't even take care of myself / my plants. But i don't know if it really means that they don't want a dog, maybe it's just that they don't want US to keep talking about it.
5. Be honest. Do you really think they'll get a dog?
6. Favorite moment out of the dog video?
6. LOLA THE POMORENIAN
But from watching these videos, but mostly dan's, i want to ask: Do you think they have outgrown the youtube era, especially Dan? Should they (or just Dan) start working in other field, and what fields?
I just feel personally that this is a crossroads and i don't want them to pursue in the path of youtube because they think that this is what we want (when we can totally say that they have no freaking idea of what we want).
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Dan and Phil and Dogs
See, I rewatched this and now I want to cry a little because I really miss them. Like, I miss them together in the same video, please boys come back soon.
Anyway, this video is just so pure. They clearly love dogs so much and they seem so happy. Also, I really love when they vlog, it's the kind of content I'd love to see more of and it makes me feel more connected to them, in a way.
One of my favourite things is Dan choosing the concept of him and Phil chilling on a sofa with their laptops and the dog for his birthday month. It's just very cute, you know? And so telling.
Keep Talking And Nobody Explodes
I love this series so much, it's one of their best ones and I'm sad that they didn't play it more. I love the game itself and dnp playing it was absolutely delightful.
What impressed me is how well they work together as a team. After watching their gameplay, I got curious and watched other gamers play this game and I can say that dnp really did good compared to the others. You can just tell they are two people who know each other very well and are used to work together. And they know that too, since they kept bragging about it in the video (and in general).
Trying To Live My Truth
I left this for last for a reason. I have a complicated relationship with this video and all the things that happened afterwards and honestly I always hear the Kill Bill siren whenever this video gets mentioned or discussed.
I am not the biggest fan of Dan's solo content and one of the reasons is because of videos like TTLMT. I think that Dan felt the pressure to upload something and he did, but he clearly wasn't ready for it. He wanted to repeat the success of Daniel and Depression but didn't quite manage to do so.
Daniel and Depression was raw, it felt genuine and got straight to the point, there was no room for any other interpretations. TTLMT felt the exact opposite to me - I found it vague, rambly and the message Dan tried to send got lost somewhere in the video. That's why I can't blame anyone who focused more on the 'phallic jokes' ; that was what stood out the most in the video and Dan openly talking about sex on his main channel was something new (I still stand by the point that those infamous 'jokes' were deliberately meant to be intepreted as jokes about penises, because there's no way in hell that Dan or Phil didn't realize what those sentences would sound like and that people would focus on those words more than anything else). I know Dan didn't like the fact the people focused more on that, but maybe he should've stopped a second to think about why that happened. Maybe he should understand that if he wants to make more personal videos, he needs to be more transparent - he always says that he struggles with being vulnerable and I think that's one of the reasons why being honest and straightfoward is not easy for him. Unfortunately, that leads to videos where he rambles on and on, demanding that we will understand what he says, as if we can read his mind.
Second of all - I think Phil still enjoys being a youtuber and I don't necessarily think that Dan has outgrown the youtube era but I feel like he sees his youtube channel as more of a job he needs to take seriously than something fun for entertainment, that's I wish he would understand that one thing doesn't have to exclude the other.
My Questions:
Do you think they will do more vlogs in the future? Why?
They tend to downplay the whole 'getting a dog' thing, except for once, when Dan very candidly talked about Phil wanting a corgi and telling us to brace ourselves for that. Why do you think that was the only instance of that?
Do you think that the reception of TTLMT - or better, the reaction to the liveshow after that - was a wake up call for Dan, to make him reflect more on his content and what he really wants to do and how?
See, I rewatched this and now I want to cry a little because I really miss them. Like, I miss them together in the same video, please boys come back soon.
Anyway, this video is just so pure. They clearly love dogs so much and they seem so happy. Also, I really love when they vlog, it's the kind of content I'd love to see more of and it makes me feel more connected to them, in a way.
I think they will. They dogbait way too hard, it will happen. I guess they keep downplaying the whole thing, saying that they can't look after themselves etc. etc. just because they don't want people to focus too much on it; basically they don't want the prospect of getting a dog to become something people would turn into a big deal (too late for that, imo, but whatevs).
One of my favourite things is Dan choosing the concept of him and Phil chilling on a sofa with their laptops and the dog for his birthday month. It's just very cute, you know? And so telling.
Keep Talking And Nobody Explodes
I love this series so much, it's one of their best ones and I'm sad that they didn't play it more. I love the game itself and dnp playing it was absolutely delightful.
It didn't stress me out at all! I'm not sure why, because I'm someone who gets stressed easily, lmao. Maybe because I find the game really enjoyable so I guess that diminished my stress? I don't know, science explain.
What impressed me is how well they work together as a team. After watching their gameplay, I got curious and watched other gamers play this game and I can say that dnp really did good compared to the others. You can just tell they are two people who know each other very well and are used to work together. And they know that too, since they kept bragging about it in the video (and in general).
Trying To Live My Truth
I left this for last for a reason. I have a complicated relationship with this video and all the things that happened afterwards and honestly I always hear the Kill Bill siren whenever this video gets mentioned or discussed.
I am not the biggest fan of Dan's solo content and one of the reasons is because of videos like TTLMT. I think that Dan felt the pressure to upload something and he did, but he clearly wasn't ready for it. He wanted to repeat the success of Daniel and Depression but didn't quite manage to do so.
Daniel and Depression was raw, it felt genuine and got straight to the point, there was no room for any other interpretations. TTLMT felt the exact opposite to me - I found it vague, rambly and the message Dan tried to send got lost somewhere in the video. That's why I can't blame anyone who focused more on the 'phallic jokes' ; that was what stood out the most in the video and Dan openly talking about sex on his main channel was something new (I still stand by the point that those infamous 'jokes' were deliberately meant to be intepreted as jokes about penises, because there's no way in hell that Dan or Phil didn't realize what those sentences would sound like and that people would focus on those words more than anything else). I know Dan didn't like the fact the people focused more on that, but maybe he should've stopped a second to think about why that happened. Maybe he should understand that if he wants to make more personal videos, he needs to be more transparent - he always says that he struggles with being vulnerable and I think that's one of the reasons why being honest and straightfoward is not easy for him. Unfortunately, that leads to videos where he rambles on and on, demanding that we will understand what he says, as if we can read his mind.
First of all, standing ovation for the bold part.Ataraxia25 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:06 am But from watching these videos, but mostly dan's, i want to ask: Do you think they have outgrown the youtube era, especially Dan? Should they (or just Dan) start working in other field, and what fields?
I just feel personally that this is a crossroads and i don't want them to pursue in the path of youtube because they think that this is what we want (when we can totally say that they have no freaking idea of what we want).
Second of all - I think Phil still enjoys being a youtuber and I don't necessarily think that Dan has outgrown the youtube era but I feel like he sees his youtube channel as more of a job he needs to take seriously than something fun for entertainment, that's I wish he would understand that one thing doesn't have to exclude the other.
My Questions:
Do you think they will do more vlogs in the future? Why?
They tend to downplay the whole 'getting a dog' thing, except for once, when Dan very candidly talked about Phil wanting a corgi and telling us to brace ourselves for that. Why do you think that was the only instance of that?
Do you think that the reception of TTLMT - or better, the reaction to the liveshow after that - was a wake up call for Dan, to make him reflect more on his content and what he really wants to do and how?
I'm a winter flower underground, always thirsty for summer rain.
I love both your posts, @glitterintheair and @Ataraxia25! Thank you for still watching TTLMT even though it makes you uncomfortable! You offer a different perspective and I love that.
Quoting your awesome questions for better visibility and for others to use (everyone, feel free to engage in the discussion, talk between each other too. It would be great to get a conversation going here!)
Quoting your awesome questions for better visibility and for others to use (everyone, feel free to engage in the discussion, talk between each other too. It would be great to get a conversation going here!)
From @Ataraxia25
Do you think they have outgrown the youtube era, especially Dan? Should they (or just Dan) start working in other field, and what fields?
From @glitterintheair
1. Do you think they will do more vlogs in the future? Why?
2. They tend to downplay the whole 'getting a dog' thing, except for once, when Dan very candidly talked about Phil wanting a corgi and telling us to brace ourselves for that. Why do you think that was the only instance of that?
3. Do you think that the reception of TTLMT - or better, the reaction to the liveshow after that - was a wake up call for Dan, to make him reflect more on his content and what he really wants to do and how?
Great thread!
TTLMT
I agree with@Ataraxia25 that it felt like an attempt to get the same support for this video as got for the depression video.
I felt the content was rushed and there were a few video ideas mushed together. The messages on social pressure, not knowing what to do, mental health and sex/sexuality could all have been individual videos.
The sex comment...I'm glad for Dan talking about sex and I am all for it. Sex needs to be talked about. I think the phandom should see it as just a comment about sex and not an indication into their personal relationships. In my opinion, the comment could be about anyone. If they're together, they will share it if they wish. I do worry that the phandom might get hurt if they're not together.
Keep Talking and Nobody Explodes:
I forgot these videos existed!! I've not watched all DAPG content-not watched the scariest Halloween ones and not seen Undertale series (thought the videos looked too long but have told myself I will watch them one day). Very enjoyable, not that stressful. I find the impossible quiz more stressful to watch.
Dan and Phil and Dogs :
I just love this video so much. It's so happy and wholesome and nice. The dogs are just so adorable. There is good jokes. I've watched it so much.
@glitterintheair
I feel they downplay getting a dog as I don't see them getting a dog due to the commitment of it. A flat is easier as can move out if needed to move on. Having a dog means bonding and attachment to the dog. I guess if they work out their future, I can see them getting one but I don't think it will be for a while.
In terms of their future, I have always seen Phil go on to be a director or writer once he's done with youtube. I can see Dan being an author or mental health activist. Both out of the limelight but still providing us with content.
TTLMT
I agree with@Ataraxia25 that it felt like an attempt to get the same support for this video as got for the depression video.
I felt the content was rushed and there were a few video ideas mushed together. The messages on social pressure, not knowing what to do, mental health and sex/sexuality could all have been individual videos.
The sex comment...I'm glad for Dan talking about sex and I am all for it. Sex needs to be talked about. I think the phandom should see it as just a comment about sex and not an indication into their personal relationships. In my opinion, the comment could be about anyone. If they're together, they will share it if they wish. I do worry that the phandom might get hurt if they're not together.
Keep Talking and Nobody Explodes:
I forgot these videos existed!! I've not watched all DAPG content-not watched the scariest Halloween ones and not seen Undertale series (thought the videos looked too long but have told myself I will watch them one day). Very enjoyable, not that stressful. I find the impossible quiz more stressful to watch.
Dan and Phil and Dogs :
I just love this video so much. It's so happy and wholesome and nice. The dogs are just so adorable. There is good jokes. I've watched it so much.
@glitterintheair
I feel they downplay getting a dog as I don't see them getting a dog due to the commitment of it. A flat is easier as can move out if needed to move on. Having a dog means bonding and attachment to the dog. I guess if they work out their future, I can see them getting one but I don't think it will be for a while.
In terms of their future, I have always seen Phil go on to be a director or writer once he's done with youtube. I can see Dan being an author or mental health activist. Both out of the limelight but still providing us with content.
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Oh I don't think it's gonna happen anytime soon either, but I do think that eventually, once a house is bought and they feel ready for it, a dog will be inevitable.Mia wrote: ↑Sun Jan 27, 2019 3:26 pm
@glitterintheair
I feel they downplay getting a dog as I don't see them getting a dog due to the commitment of it. A flat is easier as can move out if needed to move on. Having a dog means bonding and attachment to the dog. I guess if they work out their future, I can see them getting one but I don't think it will be for a while.
I'm a winter flower underground, always thirsty for summer rain.
I'm doing this particular watch fest in parts, because my own dog is going crazy
I started with Trying To Live My Truth, and while I'm not uncomfortable or affected by it, I can understand why some people were. I do think that the response to this video may have played a big part in Dan taking a break from youtube. I think he expected people to relate to him more, to understand his message (I kind of did, but it is very vague and a bit preachy), but his "crazed" fanbase put more emphasis on the sex related stuff, which really shouldn't be a surprise to him. It was still a bit of a bombshell to drop, and one would have to try HARD to interpret it without including Phil.
I do wish the reaction had been different though, and I wish he didn't feel like he had to backtrack on this video later. That is what made me feel bad - not the video itself, but what followed.
I made timestamps that will serve as my commentary, and I will come back later for the other two + replies to your posts.
I started with Trying To Live My Truth, and while I'm not uncomfortable or affected by it, I can understand why some people were. I do think that the response to this video may have played a big part in Dan taking a break from youtube. I think he expected people to relate to him more, to understand his message (I kind of did, but it is very vague and a bit preachy), but his "crazed" fanbase put more emphasis on the sex related stuff, which really shouldn't be a surprise to him. It was still a bit of a bombshell to drop, and one would have to try HARD to interpret it without including Phil.
I do wish the reaction had been different though, and I wish he didn't feel like he had to backtrack on this video later. That is what made me feel bad - not the video itself, but what followed.
I made timestamps that will serve as my commentary, and I will come back later for the other two + replies to your posts.
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this took me two hours but hyellow lads..
trying to live my truth:
1. What do you think was Dan's message in Trying To Live My Truth?
ive always loved the message he was sharing in this video and i know for myself how hard it is to do that. im turning 25 this year and i dont even know who or what i am. my life is stale, my friends are busy, my interests and passions are starting to feel like a lit matchstick that had been doused with water. bit by bit, ive started to take control of my life by being a little bit more selfish than i usually am simply because i push myself to be well liked by others, sometimes starting unhealthy habits, by default. trying to be more assertive and not letting other people treat me like a doormat - yet, still having the grace to know that im not always right and that there is merit in listening to others opinions...is hard. balancing what others want vs what i want is.....hard. you cant always please everybody, including yourself, and it only leaves you in a downward spiral. so to find the perfect balance takes time and lots of trail and error.
bottom line is, im scared. so watching this again brings me some comfort.
2. What did you think of the fandom's response to Trying To Live My Truth?
rewatching this video just made me remind myself how much i loved it. yeah, there was so much chaos and controversy when it came out but honestly, i was one of the people who were mildly disappointed in the people who only took the alluded "dick" parts and emphasized it - the entire video wasnt ONLY about that at all. a lot of people either missed the main message or simply ignored it and i cant blame dan for acting the way he did in the liveshow after that because wont you also be upset when youve poured your all into something yet people just focused on one tiny corner of it?
having a blast:
3. Did you enjoy Keep Talking And Nobody Explodes, or did it stress you out?
YES! as someone who loves puzzle games, it stressed me out when they were first learning the game. if only my throat wasnt hurting, i wouldve been yelling at my screen but it was all good because they got it on the third try.
remember kids, when playing cooperation based puzzle games, either builds a fun, healthy relationship dynamic....or leads to divorce /s
4. What impressed you the most when it comes to their cooperation?
i love the fact that dan just gets the random descriptions that phil makes. like, half of the time i had to stare at it and go, "what the fuck phil". but also, i can see the dynamic between the two of them when it comes to stressful situations play out.
dan is really good at acting calm under pressure, meanwhile phil does not. he stutters and obsessed over the clock, which only makes him worse. at the same time, phil is really good at working at what he has at hand and actively does things to help rather than passively waiting for dan - who, on the other hand, takes it less seriously than phil. in this video, he was intentionally pushing phils buttons, but in his "nearly blinded myself" video as an example, dan downplays the injury to the point of making it worse while phil was actively trying to find ways to help him.
i think they fill each others gaps nicely and theyre able to work on whatever the other lacks.
dan and phil and DOGS:
5. Be honest. Do you really think they'll get a dog?
yes. yes they will. maybe not right now, but i wholeheartedly believe that they WILL get a pupper at some point in their future together.
6. Favorite moment out of the dog video?
short answer? every part where a dog appears. im a simple man.
ok long answer? still every part where a dog appears, but also every time phil makes an innuendo and dan makes that face, or when lola falls asleep on dan and phil immediately says that its because hes warm. or when they freak out of the dogs being so cute. or just the fact that theyre just having fun hanging out with dogs. like, they ask us why we want them to get a dog, this is why. because dogs gave them laughter and we like seeing them happy. but of course, i know it takes responsibility to take care of another living being, so they can do it when theyre ready.
trying to live my truth:
ive always loved the message he was sharing in this video and i know for myself how hard it is to do that. im turning 25 this year and i dont even know who or what i am. my life is stale, my friends are busy, my interests and passions are starting to feel like a lit matchstick that had been doused with water. bit by bit, ive started to take control of my life by being a little bit more selfish than i usually am simply because i push myself to be well liked by others, sometimes starting unhealthy habits, by default. trying to be more assertive and not letting other people treat me like a doormat - yet, still having the grace to know that im not always right and that there is merit in listening to others opinions...is hard. balancing what others want vs what i want is.....hard. you cant always please everybody, including yourself, and it only leaves you in a downward spiral. so to find the perfect balance takes time and lots of trail and error.
bottom line is, im scared. so watching this again brings me some comfort.
2. What did you think of the fandom's response to Trying To Live My Truth?
rewatching this video just made me remind myself how much i loved it. yeah, there was so much chaos and controversy when it came out but honestly, i was one of the people who were mildly disappointed in the people who only took the alluded "dick" parts and emphasized it - the entire video wasnt ONLY about that at all. a lot of people either missed the main message or simply ignored it and i cant blame dan for acting the way he did in the liveshow after that because wont you also be upset when youve poured your all into something yet people just focused on one tiny corner of it?
having a blast:
YES! as someone who loves puzzle games, it stressed me out when they were first learning the game. if only my throat wasnt hurting, i wouldve been yelling at my screen but it was all good because they got it on the third try.
remember kids, when playing cooperation based puzzle games, either builds a fun, healthy relationship dynamic....or leads to divorce /s
4. What impressed you the most when it comes to their cooperation?
i love the fact that dan just gets the random descriptions that phil makes. like, half of the time i had to stare at it and go, "what the fuck phil". but also, i can see the dynamic between the two of them when it comes to stressful situations play out.
dan is really good at acting calm under pressure, meanwhile phil does not. he stutters and obsessed over the clock, which only makes him worse. at the same time, phil is really good at working at what he has at hand and actively does things to help rather than passively waiting for dan - who, on the other hand, takes it less seriously than phil. in this video, he was intentionally pushing phils buttons, but in his "nearly blinded myself" video as an example, dan downplays the injury to the point of making it worse while phil was actively trying to find ways to help him.
i think they fill each others gaps nicely and theyre able to work on whatever the other lacks.
dan and phil and DOGS:
yes. yes they will. maybe not right now, but i wholeheartedly believe that they WILL get a pupper at some point in their future together.
6. Favorite moment out of the dog video?
short answer? every part where a dog appears. im a simple man.
ok long answer? still every part where a dog appears, but also every time phil makes an innuendo and dan makes that face, or when lola falls asleep on dan and phil immediately says that its because hes warm. or when they freak out of the dogs being so cute. or just the fact that theyre just having fun hanging out with dogs. like, they ask us why we want them to get a dog, this is why. because dogs gave them laughter and we like seeing them happy. but of course, i know it takes responsibility to take care of another living being, so they can do it when theyre ready.
"you are next to me in my life"
This thread is a bit slow, so I just want to say - you don't have to watch all the videos! Just post one line about one video if you feel like it.
I went and watched the other two vids, and both have been a delight. However, this watch fest had the opposite effect on me - instead of making me feel better about the drought, I now just miss them more.
Bomb game
So so good. Peak DAPG content. Dan's hair is bad-ish, Phil's is even worse. I love this type of game where you can truly appreciate how well they cooperate, AND they are fully into it. Just amazing, really.
Dogs
I mean, I'm a dog lover. I also love cats, but I'm allergic to cats, so I've had dogs all my life. Even without Dan and Phil, this is premium content to me.
The ONLY thing that ruins this video for me is Phil's hair. I'm sorry. It's only good during the artsy shoot where he pushes it up.
And... I want a new DITL.
I went and watched the other two vids, and both have been a delight. However, this watch fest had the opposite effect on me - instead of making me feel better about the drought, I now just miss them more.
Bomb game
So so good. Peak DAPG content. Dan's hair is bad-ish, Phil's is even worse. I love this type of game where you can truly appreciate how well they cooperate, AND they are fully into it. Just amazing, really.
I mean, I'm a dog lover. I also love cats, but I'm allergic to cats, so I've had dogs all my life. Even without Dan and Phil, this is premium content to me.
The ONLY thing that ruins this video for me is Phil's hair. I'm sorry. It's only good during the artsy shoot where he pushes it up.
And... I want a new DITL.
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whew, ddnt think my reply to this one was gunna be long
tldr; i liked the video but you guys made good, valid points.
(ps. im gunna put it under spoiler so anyone can choose whether they wanna read it or not)
although, is much as that chaos frustrated me, i think it was a good thing for dan because...
tldr; i liked the video but you guys made good, valid points.
i love that different people can have different impressions over the same video. everyones comment about how it made them uncomfortable (but im just choosing to quote yours cz its the first one hope you dont mind) is very interesting to me because when i first watched it and even until now, i felt completely the opposite of what you all felt so reading it from your guys lens gives me another perspective. im not going to preach what i think yall shouldve thought because thats kind of insensitive, and i do acknowledge that everyones life experiences and the way youve interpreted it are different than mine and vice versa. still, i want to elaborate on my thinking process.Ataraxia25 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:06 am Also what "bothers" me is that in this video, Dan talks about what makes him feel bad and it's kinda triggering for me, because i'm not feeling well and i don't want to see/hear other people trying to work on themselves and on the whole, this video just gives me a lot of anxiety you see ? (Also because Dan reminds us things that are not happy, like : "you don't have long on this planet" Well shut up Danny some people are trying to forget okay! haha
Also, the whole perpective of "finding true happiness" is something i don't understand because i don't think it's possible to find true happiness, so it put an even greater distance between me and the video.
In the same way, i don't really understand the concept of "living your truth" so this video is the kind i don't understand. BUT that's not at all because of Dan, it's just me, my perspective!
(ps. im gunna put it under spoiler so anyone can choose whether they wanna read it or not)
this is a good point. we all know rambling and being indecisive is dans weak point - heck he even points it out on this video, but also he is taking baby steps. he made the effort to try and communicate his thoughts in this video, albeit not effectively and when all people took out from it was the one little joke at the end, dan from the past probably panicked and felt disappointed...personally, ive first watched this video right before i decided to come back into the phandom after about 3~4 years, so i had no outside influences nor was i aware of any of the "then" current fandom knowledge and what i got from the video was him telling us his process of trying to find something to live for, followed by my pride for him over the fact that dan had actually felt more comfortable to openly share his sexuality to his audience. so when i found out about the drama after, i was also disappointed.glitterintheair wrote: ↑Sun Jan 27, 2019 1:38 pm That's why I can't blame anyone who focused more on the 'phallic jokes' ; that was what stood out the most in the video and Dan openly talking about sex on his main channel was something new[...] I know Dan didn't like the fact the people focused more on that, but maybe he should've stopped a second to think about why that happened. Maybe he should understand that if he wants to make more personal videos, he needs to be more transparent - he always says that he struggles with being vulnerable and I think that's one of the reasons why being honest and straightfoward is not easy for him. Unfortunately, that leads to videos where he rambles on and on, demanding that we will understand what he says, as if we can read his mind.
although, is much as that chaos frustrated me, i think it was a good thing for dan because...
i think it IS a wake up call for him. if he had released this video now, everyone wouldve just went "cool, another penis reference", but also current dan wouldve just laughed it off and made his "yeah, so what?" face at us. at least to me, it felt like he started loosening up a bit more after that fiasco and hence him taking a long hiatus to really think about what he want to do with his channel. we might not like it or we might love it, who knows, only the future can tell.glitterintheair wrote: ↑Sun Jan 27, 2019 1:38 pm Do you think that the reception of TTLMT - or better, the reaction to the liveshow after that - was a wake up call for Dan, to make him reflect more on his content and what he really wants to do and how?
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reading everyones responses makes me inclined to agree. it still didnt change the fact that the video itself resonated to me, but also i acknowledge that it was lacking here and there. makes me wonder, if only he had held back and did this video for 2019 instead and focused on one thing - then we wouldve gotten a veeeeery different video.Ablissa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 27, 2019 3:59 pm 3:27 - I think I'm starting to understand the problem. He's telling the audience what to do, as opposed to sharing some of his thoughts/experiences in relation to himself – which is how he started the video
3:50 - "Don't go through life just being somebody that people like – be yourself" – I actually like this, because it makes me think how Dan must have made that choice at some point too. He's definitely more at peace with himself now, the act dropped a lot. It was a risky choice, but he and Phil both made it, and it definitely took some consideration.
6:00 - "It is scary, but if any of you feel something isn't right, ask yourself – are you living your truth?" – again, it';s a nice message and he is right on some level, BUT. As a person still very much affected by depression, anxiety and OCD, it's really not that simple. And living your truth may mean a lot of things for different people – which Dan acknowledged – and not all those truths are attainable. It would be good to soften the message here, Dan.
"you are next to me in my life"
I'm loooving the discussion about these videos, especially Dan's Trying To Live My Truth, so this is what I will focus on in this post (we all seem to have similar opinions on the other two, but Dan's video brought some different points )
(this post is a MONSTROSITY I'm so sorry)
But you know what? I do agree in a way - I don't think making videos is Dan's favorite thing anymore. He's way too far in his head. When he used to do this regularly, he didn't overthink it to the point where he couldn't do it anymore. Right now, I really don't know how active he will be as a solo youtuber. I firmly believe he will remain active throughout videos with Phil.
But as for what they could do now? I'd love to see them hosting some sort of a show. They would do well in television, after some intense training to remove their awkwardness And I can honestly see it happening sometime, if they're smart about it. But only as a double act. This may sound mean, but I don't think they can do much with their careers without maintaining that togetherness.
Thinking of it now, I'm still kind of surprised at how much he backtracked, because the message of this video (one of them) speaks of being yourself, unabashedly, but he withdrew because his audience is extra and reacted to the wrong things (which ironically were the most clear things in the entire video). I'm sad about it really.
Questions - I don't think they will do more vlogs. If/when they move to their own house, we can pretty much forget vlogs unless it's somewhere far away. They're still private people. I think it would be good for them money wise if they did make more vlogs though.
I will only say that I cannot see them as being with anyone else than each other, and this is based on facts rather than my own wishful thinking, but I totally respect wanting to be more careful about it - it's considerate of you
(this post is a MONSTROSITY I'm so sorry)
This is especially interesting to me, because I actually haven't had the thought that they might drop youtube until I've started seeing mentions of it here on IDB, haha.Ataraxia25 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:06 am It's literally 13 SECONDS in and I have this sensation that Dan is not made for this anymore.
(...)
Do you think they have outgrown the youtube era, especially Dan? Should they (or just Dan) start working in other field, and what fields?
But you know what? I do agree in a way - I don't think making videos is Dan's favorite thing anymore. He's way too far in his head. When he used to do this regularly, he didn't overthink it to the point where he couldn't do it anymore. Right now, I really don't know how active he will be as a solo youtuber. I firmly believe he will remain active throughout videos with Phil.
But as for what they could do now? I'd love to see them hosting some sort of a show. They would do well in television, after some intense training to remove their awkwardness And I can honestly see it happening sometime, if they're smart about it. But only as a double act. This may sound mean, but I don't think they can do much with their careers without maintaining that togetherness.
I didn't feel this way the first time I watched this video, but I did feel it today. Maybe because of my general anxiety levels. I definitely think Dan could have worded some things differently - a lot of his audience struggles with depression and anxiety (and other things), so it's important to not be triggering if he wants to do this type of videos.Ataraxia25 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:06 am Dan talks about what makes him feel bad and it's kinda triggering for me, because i'm not feeling well and i don't want to see/hear other people trying to work on themselves and on the whole, this video just gives me a lot of anxiety you see ?
Yes! I feel like Dan wasn't quite ready to post this video yet. I agree when you say it was vague, the message wasn't clear, and most of all, I think he wasn't in the right headspace to face what came after.glitterintheair wrote: ↑Sun Jan 27, 2019 1:38 pm I think that Dan felt the pressure to upload something and he did, but he clearly wasn't ready for it. He wanted to repeat the success of Daniel and Depression but didn't quite manage to do so.
Thinking of it now, I'm still kind of surprised at how much he backtracked, because the message of this video (one of them) speaks of being yourself, unabashedly, but he withdrew because his audience is extra and reacted to the wrong things (which ironically were the most clear things in the entire video). I'm sad about it really.
Questions - I don't think they will do more vlogs. If/when they move to their own house, we can pretty much forget vlogs unless it's somewhere far away. They're still private people. I think it would be good for them money wise if they did make more vlogs though.
Definitely. I think that video is part of the reason why Dan disappeared from his own channel.glitterintheair wrote: ↑Sun Jan 27, 2019 1:38 pm Do you think that the reception of TTLMT - or better, the reaction to the liveshow after that - was a wake up call for Dan, to make him reflect more on his content and what he really wants to do and how?
I definitely agree that the comment about sex was actually quite refreshing to me. I'm all for more adult content on Dan's channel, and having a sex life is really nothing to be ashamed about.Mia wrote: ↑Sun Jan 27, 2019 3:26 pm The sex comment...I'm glad for Dan talking about sex and I am all for it. Sex needs to be talked about. I think the phandom should see it as just a comment about sex and not an indication into their personal relationships. In my opinion, the comment could be about anyone. If they're together, they will share it if they wish. I do worry that the phandom might get hurt if they're not together.
I will only say that I cannot see them as being with anyone else than each other, and this is based on facts rather than my own wishful thinking, but I totally respect wanting to be more careful about it - it's considerate of you
I also didn't feel uncomfortable about the video itself. I disagree with some of the delivery, but the video didn't bug me then and it doesn't bug me now. I also felt quite happy about him being open and not hiding, but the whole backtrack and all the drama in the phandom afterwards is what made me feel bitter about this one. It's a tough thing, and I'd imagine it was difficult on Dan too.lesterchuu wrote: ↑Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:44 pm what i got from the video was him telling us his process of trying to find something to live for, followed by my pride for him over the fact that dan had actually felt more comfortable to openly share his sexuality to his audience. so when i found out about the drama after, i was also disappointed.