Dan & Phil Part 83: Where in the World is Daniel Howell

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2019 started with them burning the sofa with indoor fireworks and now this? Not sure what I'm trying to say but I'm sensing a pattern, here.
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Not to give the theoretical HIPAA violation (well, whatever the British equivalent would be) more attention, but the idea that this person is implying they live apart but.... still go to the same doctor is so funny to me. Don't live together but still attached at the hip in all other areas of their life!
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Gotta get that sweet insurance claim! When the views go down you need to fund that forever home somehow :)

I wish I could join you guys on moving hill, the weather seems fine up there. maybe I can reserve a spot for later in the year , maybe early next year? I do think they're moving , just not right now.

I think the storage unit was just them packing up and getting rid of the filming flat. And Phil's fake bedroom had to go somewhere. This seems to be the temporary fix until they find a bigger place (forever mansion)

I realize they seem to be hinting again, but what is throwing me is that in the beginning of their hiatus they were adamant that moving was not involved. It just seems a little odd that they would then drop little hints to let us know that they were.
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With all the bed bugs and the fire damage it's a wonder they didn't move sooner. ;)
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colickygoat wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:02 am I realize they seem to be hinting again, but what is throwing me is that in the beginning of their hiatus they were adamant that moving was not involved. It just seems a little odd that they would then drop little hints to let us know that they were.
The way they said that was a little weird though. I'm going with the theory that they weren't moving then, right before Christmas, but they are now a couple of months later. Don't worry, there's plenty of room on the hill if you change your mind :ribena:
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kavat wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 5:56 am
colickygoat wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:02 am I realize they seem to be hinting again, but what is throwing me is that in the beginning of their hiatus they were adamant that moving was not involved. It just seems a little odd that they would then drop little hints to let us know that they were.
The way they said that was a little weird though. I'm going with the theory that they weren't moving then, right before Christmas, but they are now a couple of months later. Don't worry, there's plenty of room on the hill if you change your mind :ribena:
I wouldn’t blame them for the misdirection even if they had plans back then. I reckon they wish to be very careful not to give any hints especially if there is a public listing for their new place—they’d want time to finalize everything and request the listing be removed from the property websites, which is what I suspect they did for their last move. I don’t recall anyone touting they came across the floor plan or listing for their current place, which for an apartment/duplex with such a unique layout you’d think it would be relatively easy to find especially for the expert sleuths in this community.
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colickygoat wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:02 am I think the storage unit was just them packing up and getting rid of the filming flat. And Phil's fake bedroom had to go somewhere. This seems to be the temporary fix until they find a bigger place (forever mansion)
My only issues with this scenario is that if moving is not in the cards atm and they're just getting rid of the filming flat, that would mean that:
1) dapg is not coming back (this year, at least);
2) baking videos are on hold as well, because I don't think they'd want to use their actual kitchen for filming.
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I'm going with the filming flat being ditched, and that's it really. But yes, what that means for gaming/baking is unclear :sideeye:

Daniel where art thou and your 2019 videos/projects? It's coming up to quarter of 2019 gone now, come on buddy

Also I saw he'd liked a tweet about veganism and saving the cows. Wonder if he'd do a video about that one day? Damn Phil and being a bad meat influence :P
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I don't think we've gotten any clear indications of them moving and I think the 'hints' people see are really ambiguous and probably not meant as such.

-The hiatus has more to do with their state of mind and health, a longing for some rest after a busy touring year and maybe some time to figure out what they want to do career-wise. That it theoretically also provides them with time to move would only be relevant if they has the intention to move with to start with.
-Which they said they don't. Maybe they have changed their mind, maybe they are flat out lying to protect their privacy or because they just love messing with us and are in reality demons summoned from an evil plain of existence. But the most straightforward scenario is imo that a move is not in the cards, at least for the time being.
-There's a lot of talk about them no longer renting the "filming apartment", but as far as I know the filming apartment is just one floor they use, which may or may not be rented as a separate entity. We also have no idea where Phil's new set is located. It could as well be the same room he used to film from (at least the walls are white too), but a different corner. He has to be setting up shop somewhere, and afaik there's no confirmation he's filming from anywhere in the living room or their living spaces in general. Bottom line is we don't know if they really intend to ditch the filming flat. A place like it sure comes in handy when you plan on shooting video's.
-The storage unit visit: likely just a related with the pop-up shop, or just a general need for storage for all the tour props.
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Very true @Stakhanov, there could well be nothing very exciting happening at all at the moment, besides a lot of rest & resetting, and maybe reshuffling the flat(s) in general? Time will tell I guess with the gaming channel/baking videos etc.
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Yea I'm not resettling to the moving hill yet ;-) That said they remain two rich guys in their early 30s/late 20s which unlike us mere mortals don't have to consider things like job schedules or financial penalties for moving out earlier than you contract stipulates. (idk the situation in the UK? I BE it's you basically almost always sign a contract to rent for 3 years and have to pay 3months/2months or 1 month of EXTRA rent when you move out 3/2/1 year before the contract ends. While they got the financial freedom not to care, I also think they prefer not to throw money at the landlord for the sake of it.)

So yea even while I personally don't see much concrete information that they are in the process of (organizing a) move, I think there's always some lowish probability they are moving because of their age and life circumstances. But not right now I think.

I loved Dan's like of Jack Harries (even though I don't fully agree with the contents of what he's writing). His liking of the "i"m so very very tired" and "some days your brain is great at telling you you're shit" worried me though :-/ He's been hinting a couple of times that his mental state might not be that great atm. I remember him talking about how the tour gave him a reason to get out of bed, and how it might be hard to find the same motivating purpose when it ended. The beginning of last year also was a fragile period for his mental health, by his own admission. I hope he's doing ok. I don't see the content flowing and him or his aesthetic being ready any time soon if he's in a dark place. I really miss Dan but most of all I hope he takes care of himself :love1:
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BuffyFiona wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:01 am Not to give the theoretical HIPAA violation (well, whatever the British equivalent would be) more attention, but the idea that this person is implying they live apart but.... still go to the same doctor is so funny to me.Don't live together but still attached at the hip in all other areas of their life!
They probably go to the same doctor’s surgery (the place you see your GP if that makes no sense). IF they lived apart I guess it would be rational to live close to each other for joint content etc (even though we don’t get much of that anymore). However it kinda makes more sense for them to live together to save money. Even though they are millionaires, why not live together until they’re ready to move apart and settle down. Plus it would be lonely to live apart alone, unless of course they have secret lives we don’t know about because we don’t know anything really about their personal lives and neither should we have to. It feels kinda weird to discuss but I just wanted to highlight that they probably have a different doctor but go to the same doctors surgery because in the UK we are assigned to a doctor within a small surgery.
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In Belgium, you can choose your own doctor (GP in the UK?) but you normally go to the same one (we call it the "house doctor"). I switched doctor's on the advice of a friend that doesn't live with me at all, so it's not that unusual or funny to me that you end up going to the same doctors and specialists as someone you know.
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Completely unrelated, but apparently Playlist Live was last week and literally no one I follow mentioned it. Which is so surreal when you think back to only a few years ago when it was guaranteed content for WEEKS. I got a bit nostalgic for us all combing through everyone’s vlogs for clips of the boys (but then I remembered how gross it got when people started including them just for views). Playlist/Vidcon were always a mixed bag, but we always got some decent collabs and pics out of it. Imagine them going now with instastories- we would be so well fed. But alas, it’s not their deal anymore (or any of the old schooler’s it seems) which is completely understandable! I just miss joint content
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thestigdrivesamini wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:51 pm Completely unrelated, but apparently Playlist Live was last week and literally no one I follow mentioned it. Which is so surreal when you think back to only a few years ago when it was guaranteed content for WEEKS. I got a bit nostalgic for us all combing through everyone’s vlogs for clips of the boys (but then I remembered how gross it got when people started including them just for views). Playlist/Vidcon were always a mixed bag, but we always got some decent collabs and pics out of it. Imagine them going now with instastories- we would be so well fed. But alas, it’s not their deal anymore (or any of the old schooler’s it seems) which is completely understandable! I just miss joint content
I follow one smaller youtuber who lives within a couple hours of it and went, and it seems like Playlist at least has almost completely transitioned to being TikTok oriented? Like most of the people they came across there were young mid mid teens and were famous from TikTok. If there were any notable youtubers at all there then there was no real hint of them. I guess one result of the og tier of youtubers transitioning in terms of audience ages is that conventions decided to just be open to the next wave/trend instead of transitioning with them?

I do feel nostalgic for the convention time collabs and vlogs though. :( Cat was always so reliable about that.
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Ahh such nostalgia for all the big youtubers going over to florida each year and all hanging out, going to theme parks or meals and parties and the many photos, vlogs and collabs :happytears:

My impulse-buy of Phils planner arrived today, am looking forward to having a nose through the pages later on :P
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Dan tweet:
Anyone have guesses/theories are to what it was set for? :hmmm:

And a like that seems rather reflective of him:
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I'm hoping it was a sleepy mistake :shock:
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alittledizzy wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 2:07 pm I do feel nostalgic for the convention time collabs and vlogs though. :( Cat was always so reliable about that.
Cat lives in Vegas now, maybe D&P will visit her one day and we can finally get Vegas Video 2: Electric Boogaloo.

(and Cat can just film behind the camera and not speak)
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Well, if he started making it, i'm hopeful.
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So, js Dan scheduling his lies, now? That seems a bit excessive even for him.
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glitterintheair wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:44 pm So, js Dan scheduling his lies, now? That seems a bit excessive even for him.
exactly what i thought when i saw the tweet :lol:

edit : i'm janice from the shop now, what a delight to be phil's secret wife
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Fire, lies and death. I’m glad we’re less than halfway into this thread or that could be the title of the next one. I enjoyed some of Phil’s replies. They are very Phil. A coffin full of sweets and a better chance at growth for his dead house plants if they were buried. (Just not Loki, he’s crispy af from his Viking ship pyre.)

Ooo and just saw this:
Is this the final word on his natural hair color? Who knows.
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autumnhearth wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:11 pm Fire, lies and death. I’m glad we’re less than halfway into this thread or that could be the title of the next one. I enjoyed some of Phil’s replies. They are very Phil. A coffin full of sweets and a better chance at growth for his dead house plants if they were buried. (Just not Loki, he’s crispy af from his Viking ship pyre.)

Ooo and just saw this:
Is this the final word on his natural hair color? Who knows.
And honestly, does he even remember at this point? lol

His hair here seems to pretty much match his eyebrows, so it’s probably very close at least. Still would love to see him “go natural” and even if it comes out “boring” mousey brown, a stylist could always fancy it up with some highlights/lowlights.

Dan has made his opinion though and likes the raven hair, so we may never know.
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@Phantasy yeah, i was wondering if there wasn't an element of misdirection at play there. But I still feel it spreads needless confusion to be like "WE'RE NOT MOVING" to (hey, pssst guys , guys look at my storage unit) :lol:
Why just not mention it at all?

But I hope they do move . Moving is nice. I like moving. Especially into forever homes
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