Dan & Phil Part 87: post coming out universe

[wiccamoody]

#feedphilsbreadandbutterfantastiesnottrolls

[liola]

Anyway, given the recent coming outs, I'm positive that we might get the Devan wedding video soon. I was honestly on the "gaming channel is dead" camp but tbh at this point I feel like they will do it, right? Even if that is the official closure?

[Ablissa]

Anyway, given the recent coming outs, I'm positive that we might get the Devan wedding video soon. I was honestly on the "gaming channel is dead" camp but tbh at this point I feel like they will do it, right? Even if that is the official closure?

I'm kinda positive they will bring back the gaming channel and we WILL get a Devan wedding. 101%.
They may later rebrand it to a collab channel like we speculated, but I don't think they'll give up gaming entirely.

Right now, I'm expecting their first joint video of the year to be the mukbang (which I hope they'll film faster than around pinof time). After that, I think we can safely count on joint content to return in some shape or form.

[eevee]

You guys are absolutely right. For this restaurant model to work we need to offer multiple types of bread. And pancakes with butter are technically comprised of the same ingredients as bread and butter, so they have got to be options. But, if we're going to have pancakes, that opens the door to whipped cream and fruit, which was not mentioned in the original tweet...maybe a special?

hold up, obsessivelymoody pancakes are NOT cakes!! Pancakes definitely have more of the same ingredients as bread, except most bread doesnt have egg or milk and most pancakes do. that being said mass-produced bread often has egg or milk. whereas cakes have lots of sugar and vanilla extract and all kinds of fun stuff making it the sweet delicious spongey birthday type cake. unless i've been making pancakes wrong my whole life??

that being said we can't forget about syrup. pancakes NEED syrup. i think phil needs to rethink this business model to include pancakes. how could he forget?

edit: WAIT. i got it. bread restaurant is across the street from pancake restaurant. they are branded similarly.

[drago]

Mate, sorry to say it, but you're not gonna become Dan's friend or boyfriend or secret lover. It's cool if you're new to the phandom but this is just as unrealistic as wanting to be with any celebrity. Read some fanfics if you wanna live out your Mary Sue fantasy!

Why not. Dan has lived his Mary Sue fantasy.

[eevee]

Mate, sorry to say it, but you're not gonna become Dan's friend or boyfriend or secret lover. It's cool if you're new to the phandom but this is just as unrealistic as wanting to be with any celebrity. Read some fanfics if you wanna live out your Mary Sue fantasy!

Why not. Dan has lived his Mary Sue fantasy.

omg...just when we thought phan came out, dan dramatically leaves phil for a viewer!!!!

[alittledizzy]

lbr, we all know what phil's really gonna be serving at this restaurant

[wiccamoody]

You guys are absolutely right. For this restaurant model to work we need to offer multiple types of bread. And pancakes with butter are technically comprised of the same ingredients as bread and butter, so they have got to be options. But, if we're going to have pancakes, that opens the door to whipped cream and fruit, which was not mentioned in the original tweet...maybe a special?

hold up, obsessivelymoody pancakes are NOT cakes!! Pancakes definitely have more of the same ingredients as bread, except most bread doesnt have egg or milk and most pancakes do. that being said mass-produced bread often has egg or milk. whereas cakes have lots of sugar and vanilla extract and all kinds of fun stuff making it the sweet delicious spongey birthday type cake. unless i've been making pancakes wrong my whole life??

that being said we can't forget about syrup. pancakes NEED syrup. i think phil needs to rethink this business model to include pancakes. how could he forget?

edit: WAIT. i got it. bread restaurant is across the street from pancake restaurant. they are branded similarly.

I love all of this, esp the edit!, and would like to formally apologize for my mistake!! I do get liberal with the vanilla in my pancakes, and the fluffy American ones are often, not in ingredients but appearance, like a flat...cake lol

Love that, dizzy!!

Anyway Phil should hire all of us for brand management, promotion, and general ideas for his future business ventures.

[glitterintheair]

I actually rewatched the last dapg video this morning and even though I don't trust them, I really got the feeling that they didn't want to end the channel for good yet. They kept repeating "it's the end of a chapter" re: devan getting engaged, which makes me a bit hopeful that we will get a new chapter that will start with the wedding. I will be so upset if we don't get that episode, seriously.

lbr, we all know what phil's really gonna be serving at this restaurant

ADGSHKKFFJNLGS I MEAAAN.. YEAH.

[jesp]

If Phil's bread restaurant menu includes anpan I'll be the first in line. Had some for the first time recently and that shit is delicious.

[Ablissa]

Anyway Phil should hire all of us for brand management, promotion, and general ideas for his future business ventures.

Omg, Phil, if you're reading this, please hire me. I need money and I want a job that doesn't make me hate my life. I also have eaten pancakes at least once in my life so I'm fully qualified.

Edit: I've also eaten bread.

[adequate duck]

lbr, we all know what phil's really gonna be serving at this restaurant

the bottom right one reminds me of one of my ex-boyfriends.

[eevee]

lbr, we all know what phil's really gonna be serving at this restaurant

Dizzy...don't be silly...Dan would be too jealous of Phil handling all those :\

I love all of this, esp the edit!, and would like to formally apologize for my mistake!! I do get liberal with the vanilla in my pancakes, and the fluffy American ones are often, not in ingredients but appearance, like a flat...cake lol

Love that, dizzy!!

Anyway Phil should hire all of us for brand management, promotion, and general ideas for his future business ventures.

don't apologize, maybe i am just ignorant to the true pancake form!

i think if dan or phil hired me for branding and management, i'd be internally tortured with all the knowledge i legally couldn't release due to my NDA. I don't think it'd be worth it in the end. However a team of us, thatd be lit!

DUCK sdahfjhsadjkfhjsakdfhjkasdhfjksdahfjkdsahfjkshfjksdHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHA

[GalaxyDarling]

I wish I could go back ten years and tell my younger self to message 'danisnotonfire' on all platforms, lol.

[drago]

I wish I could go back ten years and tell my younger self to message 'danisnotonfire' on all platforms, lol.

Aww. That's so sweet. Good luck with those DMs.

[knq]

More on Phil's bready preferences at the beginning of this gaming video and Dan being Phil Trash #1 by correcting Phil on his bready preferences.

[autumnhearth]

Phil is king of making “accidental” (some probably are) innuendos and playing it off as innocent. Him being asexual definitely crossed my mind when I first started watching them, but Dan has said many times that Phil isn’t innocent, “if we only knew” and that he’s a bad influence (not just meat-fluence).

I know everyone is tired of bed discourse, but since we have a newbie...

I think it’s hilarious that most people in our corner of fandom accept that Phil sleeps on the left and Dan on the right (the opposite of how they sit on camera). There’s so much evidence of this. Keep in mind that not only were Dan and Phil trying to keep the romantic/sexual side of their relationship secret/private from us, but also Dan’s family. They’re bedrooms also functioned as their video backgrounds, places they could express their individual aesthetics. Dan’s bedrooms in the past have had desks with computers for both drafting and editing, whereas at least one of Phil’s room has had a tv. Also it’s great to have your own space to retreat to or an extra bed to sleep in if you get on different schedules or one person is sick (though they probably don’t bother because they appear to have never had qualms about germs shared between them).

Also since your newish you probably aren’t aware that Phil’s bedroom in his videos from spring of 2017 to winter 2018 was just a filming set in a flat with all the other rooms they film in (gaming room which was the largest bedroom, Dan’s video space and the kitchen they bake in). The last Sleepless Night With Phil is super duper staged. Dan’s bedroom/the master/the moon room that only occasionally showed up in skits or vloggy vids like Week in the Life is in their living flat and while that does have a second bedroom we’ve never seen more than a headboard and duvet in a 3 sec part of one of Phil’s videos after he gave up filming on a bed. And no it is not remotely possible that they live separately. They spend all their time together in that living flat, every Instagram story comes from there. The upstairs is just one open space, plus a bathroom. So unless they do retreat to a bedroom they are always in the same space. Annyyywhooo.

You are most welcome here, sorry folks seemed to go from defensive to curious about the fresh blood lol. But seriously don’t be afraid to ask any questions.

Ha! I went to answer a phone call and the conversation has moved on to bread. I just would want a nice variety of breads and to have some sweet butter and herbal butter in addition to the plain. ^ god I love that video.

[GalaxyDarling]

I know everyone is tired of bed discourse, but since we have a newbie...

I think it’s hilarious that most people in our corner of fandom accept that Phil sleeps on the left and Dan on the right (the opposite of how they sit on camera). There’s so much evidence of this. Keep in mind that not only were Dan and Phil trying to keep the romantic/sexual side of their relationship secret/private from us, but also Dan’s family. They’re bedrooms also functioned as their video backgrounds, places they could express their individual aesthetics. Dan’s bedrooms in the past have had desks with computers for both drafting and editing, whereas at least one of Phil’s room has had a tv. Also it’s great to have your own space to retreat to or an extra bed to sleep in if you get on different schedules or one person is sick (though they probably don’t bother because they appear to have never had qualms about germs shared between them).

Also since your newish you probably aren’t aware that Phil’s bedroom in his videos from spring of 2017 to winter 2018 was just a filming set in a flat with all the other rooms they film in (gaming room which was the largest bedroom, Dan’s video space and the kitchen they bake in). The last Sleepless Night With Phil is super duper staged. Dan’s bedroom/the master/the moon room that only occasionally showed up in skits or vloggy vids like Week in the Life is in their living flat and while that does have a second bedroom we’ve never seen more than a headboard and duvet in a 3 sec part of one of Phil’s videos after he gave up filming on a bed. And no it is not remotely possible that they live separately. They spend all their time together in that living flat, every Instagram story comes from there. The upstairs is just one open space, plus a bathroom. So unless they do retreat to a bedroom they are always in the same space. Annyyywhooo.

Thanks for including me and taking your time to write that! Also thanks for saying that you thought Phil was ace too when you started watching their videos, because that's my process now.

[GalaxyDarling]

There was a stream Dan did last year, in which he said that while he had friends, he felt like the stream chats were a substituent for not having enough of them, at least not enough people to talk with about all the various topics he enjoys. That's why I think he probably is open for the idea of making new acquaintances. Not me. I'm just putting that out there to the universe.

[Phantasy]

I know everyone is tired of bed discourse, but since we have a newbie...

I think it’s hilarious that most people in our corner of fandom accept that Phil sleeps on the left and Dan on the right (the opposite of how they sit on camera). There’s so much evidence of this. Keep in mind that not only were Dan and Phil trying to keep the romantic/sexual side of their relationship secret/private from us, but also Dan’s family. They’re bedrooms also functioned as their video backgrounds, places they could express their individual aesthetics. Dan’s bedrooms in the past have had desks with computers for both drafting and editing, whereas at least one of Phil’s room has had a tv. Also it’s great to have your own space to retreat to or an extra bed to sleep in if you get on different schedules or one person is sick (though they probably don’t bother because they appear to have never had qualms about germs shared between them).

Also since your newish you probably aren’t aware that Phil’s bedroom in his videos from spring of 2017 to winter 2018 was just a filming set in a flat with all the other rooms they film in (gaming room which was the largest bedroom, Dan’s video space and the kitchen they bake in). The last Sleepless Night With Phil is super duper staged. Dan’s bedroom/the master/the moon room that only occasionally showed up in skits or vloggy vids like Week in the Life is in their living flat and while that does have a second bedroom we’ve never seen more than a headboard and duvet in a 3 sec part of one of Phil’s videos after he gave up filming on a bed. And no it is not remotely possible that they live separately. They spend all their time together in that living flat, every Instagram story comes from there. The upstairs is just one open space, plus a bathroom. So unless they do retreat to a bedroom they are always in the same space. Annyyywhooo.

Well, heck... why not pile on with some more bed discourse...
The Phil=left and Dan=right seems pretty much canon like you say there’s ample evidence... here’s a few good ones:
You mentioned a Week in the Life, which is a more obvious one where Phil is standing over Dan in the middle of the night (opposite from where the door is, I believe)...

And from Dan’s Vegas bday in dapgo, even though it’s staged he’s on the right (hotel sleuths confirmed the room only had one bed)...

Even casually, Phil is on the left...

And one of my favorite unfiltered moments of all time, when Phil was napping (and sick) next to Dan on the tour bus’ bed... even then Phil on the left, Dan on the right.


As far as them sleeping in the same bed every night, I’m indifferent to the notion... I think it’s perfectly normal and healthy for couples (who clearly can afford the space) to have their own rooms/ sleeping area and just maybe stay in one bed occasionally for uh... recreational purposes. My longest and healthiest relationships have had separate bedroom situations... one started mainly as a sanity thing as my partner was a snorer and it drove me batty... but, regardless, I’m a night owl and have different sleep patterns than most, I’m also a warm sleeper and even though I like a nice cuddle, I have a hell of a time sleeping with essentially a human radiator a foot away, and stuff... I have lots of crap, and I like having an office/bedroom that reflects my taste and personality.

Was it ever confirmed that their apartment/duplex/maisonette/whateveritis actually has a 4th bedroom, beyond the moon room, the AP set and the gaming room?

[PolarFox]

Phil’s bread tweet spoke to my soul tbh. To my mind it brought the home baked cut up bread plus the kind of “pizza dough bread” you sometimes get diced up in an italian restaurant. And fluffed up butter with herbs in it maybe. Yeah, sign me the heck up...

Also this forum, I love you guys, since i got back from my inactivity here back to reading everything i have had such a blast reading all of it

[socksparadox]

Welcome to the forum and the phandom @GalaxyDarling!

Even though almost all evidence points to them sharing a bed, I don't think that two people having separate bedrooms indicates anything. My parents have had a healthy relationship for the past 27ish years and have separate bedrooms lol.

Taking the bread discussion as an opportunity to finally say that Olive Garden breadsticks are absolute shit and I could never wrap my head around why everyone thinks they're the best thing since sliced bread (ba dum tss).

[rizzo]

I know everyone is tired of bed discourse, but since we have a newbie...

I think it’s hilarious that most people in our corner of fandom accept that Phil sleeps on the left and Dan on the right (the opposite of how they sit on camera). There’s so much evidence of this. Keep in mind that not only were Dan and Phil trying to keep the romantic/sexual side of their relationship secret/private from us, but also Dan’s family. They’re bedrooms also functioned as their video backgrounds, places they could express their individual aesthetics. Dan’s bedrooms in the past have had desks with computers for both drafting and editing, whereas at least one of Phil’s room has had a tv. Also it’s great to have your own space to retreat to or an extra bed to sleep in if you get on different schedules or one person is sick (though they probably don’t bother because they appear to have never had qualms about germs shared between them).

Also since your newish you probably aren’t aware that Phil’s bedroom in his videos from spring of 2017 to winter 2018 was just a filming set in a flat with all the other rooms they film in (gaming room which was the largest bedroom, Dan’s video space and the kitchen they bake in). The last Sleepless Night With Phil is super duper staged. Dan’s bedroom/the master/the moon room that only occasionally showed up in skits or vloggy vids like Week in the Life is in their living flat and while that does have a second bedroom we’ve never seen more than a headboard and duvet in a 3 sec part of one of Phil’s videos after he gave up filming on a bed. And no it is not remotely possible that they live separately. They spend all their time together in that living flat, every Instagram story comes from there. The upstairs is just one open space, plus a bathroom. So unless they do retreat to a bedroom they are always in the same space. Annyyywhooo.

Well, heck... why not pile on with some more bed discourse...
The Phil=left and Dan=right seems pretty much canon like you say there’s ample evidence... here’s a few good ones:

You mentioned a Week in the Life, which is a more obvious one where Phil is standing over Dan in the middle of the night (opposite from where the door is, I believe)...

And from Dan’s Vegas bday in dapgo, even though it’s staged he’s on the right (hotel sleuths confirmed the room only had one bed)...

Even casually, Phil is on the left...

And one of my favorite unfiltered moments of all time, when Phil was napping (and sick) next to Dan on the tour bus’ bed... even then Phil on the left, Dan on the right.


As far as them sleeping in the same bed every night, I’m indifferent to the notion... I think it’s perfectly normal and healthy for couples (who clearly can afford the space) to have their own rooms/ sleeping area and just maybe stay in one bed occasionally for uh... recreational purposes. My longest and healthiest relationships have had separate bedroom situations... one started mainly as a sanity thing as my partner was a snorer and it drove me batty... but, regardless, I’m a night owl and have different sleep patterns than most, I’m also a warm sleeper and even though I like a nice cuddle, I have a hell of a time sleeping with essentially a human radiator a foot away, and stuff... I have lots of crap, and I like having an office/bedroom that reflects my taste and personality.

Was it ever confirmed that their apartment/duplex/maisonette/whateveritis actually has a 4th bedroom, beyond the moon room, the AP set and the gaming room?

I know Bed Discourse is basically solidified but I wanna add just one more tidbit that always sticks with me:

That time in a PINOF when the question was to go through Phil’s nightstand and instead of going through the night stand (on the right) that Dan was seated right next to, he flung himself across the bed to open the nightstand on the left. That shit has never left my mind.

[alien]

anyone have a screenshot of that time phil said he’d rather give up alcohol than sex?

wait i dont! if someone has this handy will you post it?

[basicallyimlesbian]

That time in a PINOF when the question was to go through Phil’s nightstand and instead of going through the night stand (on the right) that Dan was seated right next to, he flung himself across the bed to open the nightstand on the left. That shit has never left my mind.

You can tell I spent too much time on the phan directory back in tbe day when my first thought was