Dan & Phil Part 99: OnlyPhans

[inanerat]

Just thinking about how the props guy apparently bought the zapper things for ii at a fetish shop,,, wonder if they got the handcuffs there too, just take out two birds with one stone, y'know?

Also in this video where the card makes Phil think of ii (9:11)

The dan and phil electrostim plot twist no one needed

edit: this is on the top of the page I'm so sorry

[fruitcriminals]

Lmao @inanerat I love that they didn't want to tell people that the zappers were from a fetish shop, they're so funny. All the things they don't tell us because they think it's too 'sexy' vs what they have end up saying/doing/tweeting over the years which is always 100 times worse!

Don't know if anyone saw the news re Jenna and Julien getting engaged and it made me think, Julien and Phil really are the influencer mvp's letting us know little things about the other one, even when they're on a hiatus.

I am assuming that one video he wants dan in has to be the questions he's never answered one and honestly if they do answer the one question...woah. Forget them...are WE ready for that?

I have to say though, if Phil want's to answer the 'tell us about your current dating life' and tell us that he's been unable to date for a decade because he's got a gay stalker who won't leave him alone and insists on living in his house everywhere he goes, I would, for one, very much enjoy the lol.

[glitterintheair]

Don't know if anyone saw the news re Jenna and Julien getting engaged and it made me think, Julien and Phil really are the influencer mvp's letting us know little things about the other one, even when they're on a hiatus.

I am assuming that one video he wants dan in has to be the questions he's never answered one and honestly if they do answer the one question...woah. Forget them...are WE ready for that?

I have to say though, if Phil want's to answer the 'tell us about your current dating life' and tell us that he's been unable to date for a decade because he's got a gay stalker who won't leave him alone and insists on living in his house everywhere he goes, I would, for one, very much enjoy the lol.

I hate my mind for going "this is how Phil would announce his and Dan's wedding" as soon as I saw the news. Like, a chill announcement during a stream and then a tweet with just a smiling emoji? Yeah, that would be so Phil.

I am not sure about Dan being in the questions video, tho. Like, Phil asked for questions about him, so what would Dan do, answer on his behalf (wait, now that I think about it, that would be a funny video)? The only way I could see it being a joint video is if there's a few joint questions thrown in there, but in that case I am wondering what kind of questions they would answer because I can't think of anything.

[liola]

I'll take any video Phil wants to give us but i hope he actually answer questions this time rather than saying he got a question and then not answering it, I know I KNOW it's none of our business it's a boundary yadda yadda but the video is to answering things he's never answered before and im still a bit iffy about that dating question that he talked about but ended up not answering, I'd rather he doesn't mention stuff if he then refuses to "play the game" you know what i mean?

So like would i love Dan to participate in the video and dream about them giving us juicy bits yes or course would i be ready for Dan to faff about for 10 minutes not answering questions while berating the audience in a mocking way about how not okay it is to ask things and then say it's our fault? Nah

[fruitcriminals]

I am not sure about Dan being in the questions video, tho. Like, Phil asked for questions about him, so what would Dan do, answer on his behalf (wait, now that I think about it, that would be a funny video)? The only way I could see it being a joint video is if there's a few joint questions thrown in there, but in that case I am wondering what kind of questions they would answer because I can't think of anything.

Well that's kind of where my mind went too, just because the only video Phil's hinted at doing is the questions one and Dan saying specifically 'one more video' and 'really don't like what he is suggesting', all of that combined is why I wondered if it would be about their relationship as that's the only juicy thing they could both answer. Although there were other questions that would be interesting for them both to answer re being closeted or their past together but that isn't particularly 'juicy'. Depends on their idea of juice I guess.

For reference this is what they said:

Phil: I'm gonna force Dan to pop up on my channel as well, so you'll see the video
Dan: Phil has um..convinced me, somehow...idk did i lose a bet [crosstalk re mariokart] to do one more video on his youtube channel and I really don't like what he is suggesting um so i guess look forward to that at some point....I'm scared

TBH if they just do a moving vlog, apartment tour of the old place or anything else we'd enjoy it probably and it wouldn't be scary... It was just the way it seemed like it was something he didn't particularly want to do that made me think that.

[glitterintheair]

Well that's kind of where my mind went too, just because the only video Phil's hinted at doing is the questions one and Dan saying specifically 'one more video' and 'really don't like what he is suggesting', all of that combined is why I wondered if it would be about their relationship as that's the only juicy thing they could both answer. Although there were other questions that would be interesting for them both to answer re being closeted or their past together but that isn't particularly 'juicy'. Depends on their idea of juice I guess.

See, I'd laugh if that was the case because Phil said that particular ice cream shop is closed in the previous questions vid, so them talking about their relationship in any way or form now would be a contradiction I'd personally be happy about, but I don't know how likely it will be. But what do I know, they're famous for saying a thing and then doing the exact opposite. Also, whether Dan is in that video or not, I am perplexed as to why Phil decided to make a second questions video in the first place. Maybe because it's easy and quick to film? But he could've come up with a different type of video, for example I am actually surprised he hasn't jumped on the "Reading your assumption about me" trend yet.

[fruitcriminals]

See, I'd laugh if that was the case because Phil said that particular ice cream shop is closed in the previous questions vid, so them talking about their relationship in any way or form now would be a contradiction I'd personally be happy about, but I don't know how likely it will be. But what do I know, they're famous for saying a thing and then doing the exact opposite. Also, whether Dan is in that video or not, I am perplexed as to why Phil decided to make a second questions video in the first place. Maybe because it's easy and quick to film? But he could've come up with a different type of video, for example I am actually surprised he hasn't jumped on the "Reading your assumption about me" trend yet.

They are so full of contradictions that it is pretty on brand of them. Dan who in one breath berates anyone talking about sex and then shouts c*ck on a live show. But just maybe it's something he'd rather not do so he'll do it and just pose it as him blaming Phil/a mariokart bet much like he blamed the audience for the madlibs despite the stories being incredibly sexual no matter what words people sent in and the bet for having to wear the frog outfit which for someone who wears a lot of black (that we see) can't have been that uncomfortable as he put it on his insta story for millions to look at

I also never bought that Phil wants to keep the door fully closed. I just thought was more the being closeted, the drama of the day video, protecting dan and the fact people are just hella homophobic? Maybe they have realised from Stereo that actually much as they are flawed humans and the 'fandom' is full of flawed humans, we do actually care and love them and support them? Who knows. We'll no doubt all be on edge until the video an it'll be a cereal tier list

[kavat]

They really have a talent for mentioning things in passing that just leads to more questions. Why would you take out the bins at 2am? Why do you have a metal ball on your balcony??

Quoting myself here because I'm so confused about the bridge/ramp thing. What was that?

[alittledizzy]

I am not sure about Dan being in the questions video, tho. Like, Phil asked for questions about him, so what would Dan do, answer on his behalf (wait, now that I think about it, that would be a funny video)? The only way I could see it being a joint video is if there's a few joint questions thrown in there, but in that case I am wondering what kind of questions they would answer because I can't think of anything.

Well that's kind of where my mind went too, just because the only video Phil's hinted at doing is the questions one and Dan saying specifically 'one more video' and 'really don't like what he is suggesting', all of that combined is why I wondered if it would be about their relationship as that's the only juicy thing they could both answer. Although there were other questions that would be interesting for them both to answer re being closeted or their past together but that isn't particularly 'juicy'. Depends on their idea of juice I guess.

For reference this is what they said:

Phil: I'm gonna force Dan to pop up on my channel as well, so you'll see the video
Dan: Phil has um..convinced me, somehow...idk did i lose a bet [crosstalk re mariokart] to do one more video on his youtube channel and I really don't like what he is suggesting um so i guess look forward to that at some point....I'm scared

TBH if they just do a moving vlog, apartment tour of the old place or anything else we'd enjoy it probably and it wouldn't be scary... It was just the way it seemed like it was something he didn't particularly want to do that made me think that.

The idea of an apartment tour of the old place cracks me up since we know half of the old place is surely now being lived in by someone else... I'm just imagining those that lag behind the common observations being like, wait, where's the moon room? Where' s Dan's piano corner with the bookshelf and his computer?

They really have a talent for mentioning things in passing that just leads to more questions. Why would you take out the bins at 2am? Why do you have a metal ball on your balcony??

Quoting myself here because I'm so confused about the bridge/ramp thing. What was that?

I also cannot wrap my mind around that, unless it's some kind of small step up within a room (example from google)? But even then it doesn't seem like it would be big enough for a whole damn bridge?

[rizzo]

They really have a talent for mentioning things in passing that just leads to more questions. Why would you take out the bins at 2am? Why do you have a metal ball on your balcony??

Quoting myself here because I'm so confused about the bridge/ramp thing. What was that?

I also cannot wrap my mind around that, unless it's some kind of small step up within a room (example from google)? But even then it doesn't seem like it would be big enough for a whole damn bridge?

I've been relistening to that bit as well and truly... it makes no sense. Here's the quote if anyone wants to decipher:

Phil was like "I want a little, um, bridge... that goes over something to this... thing." And then- But the thing is it was on the same level. No, it was going up a hill! So, imagine a ramp, guys, or stairs. Imagine anything that you need stairs or a ramp for. And Phil was like, "Oh no, can we give it some little handles, so it's a bridge?" And the architect just looked at Phil and was like, "A bridge can't go up. Where is it a bridge to?"

Like- what? Like at the start of this description, I'm picturing a tiny koi pond or body of water or maybe even like..... a glass floor. But then suddenly stairs and/or a ramp is involved? Ok, so we're going up! But like - why can't stairs or a ramp have handles? What makes a bridge's handles any different than stair handles?

In conclusion: alittledizzy, I think you might be right about like... small steps?

[plinthofmylife]

I am 100% convinced that Dan's "don't like what he's suggesting" has 0% to do with juicy stuff, and is like Dan cutting Phil's hair or a baking video or Phil dressing dan in color. I sincerely doubt that it's about their relationship or their house, but I would love to be pleasantly surprised by house stuff.

I desperately want them to do a design process video like Rachel + Jun have been doing on their channel. But this is mostly because I am *also* in the process of building a custom house and am desperately consuming this kind of content.

[alittledizzy]

So on a reddit sub I use for keeping up with a family I despise but am also mildly obsessed with (DuggarsSnark) made this post yesterday on an upcoming book from one of the daughters. It was super detailed and talked about the marketing plan... in the comments the op there said the website (Edelweiss) the info was on and I immediately went and made an account (as an individual, no business associations, so this is all above board) and yup... Dan's info was totally there!

Key selling points:

• With over six million subscribers to his YouTube channel and eight million Twitter followers, everything Dan posts receives enormous attention from a sustained and ever-growing fanbase.

• Howell’s The Amazing Book Is Not on Fire, co-written with best friend Phil Lester, was an instant #1 New York Times bestseller as was the follow-up, Dan and Phil Go Outside. Those books, published by PRH kids’ division, established the readership. But that readership is older now, as is Dan, and this book is perfect for those fans, and beyond.

• Anxiety is the #1 mental health issue in America, intensified by the current pandemic and the fears it brings. This book offers comfort, hope, and practical advice, specifically geared to a Gen Z audience. May is Mental Health Awareness month, a time when Dan has historically spoken about his struggles, providing even further opportunity for well-timed promotion.

• Co-pub with HQ at Harper UK.

Marketing Plans:

• National Television Interviews

• National Radio & Podcast Interviews

• National Print & Online Media Coverage

• Virtual Author Event

• Digital Galley on Edelweiss

• Book and cover announcement

• Pre-order campaign

• Influencer Campaign

• Audiobook original content

• Author videos

• Promote Across Author’s platforms

• Consumer Giveaway

• Outreach to mental health and wellness websites

• Outreach to LGBTQ+ websites

• Jacket Blowups Sent to Indie Bookstores

• Featured in HCP Newsletter

• Featured in Bookperk Newsletter

• Promotion on Dey Street social media networks, including Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram

• Official Author Website: https://shop.danielhowell.com

• Official Author Twitter: https://twitter.com/danielhowell (8M followers) Official Author Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danielhowell (3.6M followers)

• Official Author Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danisnotonfire (1.1M followers)

• Official Author YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/danhowell (6.42M followers)

Apparently the first print run is 100k, which seems normal for a personality-based book. I did some comparing and the Try Guys had a 75k first run for theirs, Hannah Hart had 125k for Buffering. Here's the pdf for anyone that wants to see the whole deal.

[liola]

So on a reddit sub I use for keeping up with a family I despise but am also mildly obsessed with (DuggarsSnark) made this post yesterday on an upcoming book from one of the daughters. It was super detailed and talked about the marketing plan... in the comments the op there said the website (Edelweiss) the info was on and I immediately went and made an account (as an individual, no business associations, so this is all above board) and yup... Dan's info was totally there!

Key selling points:

• With over six million subscribers to his YouTube channel and eight million Twitter followers, everything Dan posts receives enormous attention from a sustained and ever-growing fanbase.

• Howell’s The Amazing Book Is Not on Fire, co-written with best friend Phil Lester, was an instant #1 New York Times bestseller as was the follow-up, Dan and Phil Go Outside. Those books, published by PRH kids’ division, established the readership. But that readership is older now, as is Dan, and this book is perfect for those fans, and beyond.

• Anxiety is the #1 mental health issue in America, intensified by the current pandemic and the fears it brings. This book offers comfort, hope, and practical advice, specifically geared to a Gen Z audience. May is Mental Health Awareness month, a time when Dan has historically spoken about his struggles, providing even further opportunity for well-timed promotion.

• Co-pub with HQ at Harper UK.

Marketing Plans:

• National Television Interviews

• National Radio & Podcast Interviews

• National Print & Online Media Coverage

• Virtual Author Event

• Digital Galley on Edelweiss

• Book and cover announcement

• Pre-order campaign

• Influencer Campaign

• Audiobook original content

• Author videos

• Promote Across Author’s platforms

• Consumer Giveaway

• Outreach to mental health and wellness websites

• Outreach to LGBTQ+ websites

• Jacket Blowups Sent to Indie Bookstores

• Featured in HCP Newsletter

• Featured in Bookperk Newsletter

• Promotion on Dey Street social media networks, including Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram

• Official Author Website: https://shop.danielhowell.com

• Official Author Twitter: https://twitter.com/danielhowell (8M followers) Official Author Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danielhowell (3.6M followers)

• Official Author Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danisnotonfire (1.1M followers)

• Official Author YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/danhowell (6.42M followers)

Apparently the first print run is 100k, which seems normal for a personality-based book. I did some comparing and the Try Guys had a 75k first run for theirs, Hannah Hart had 125k for Buffering. Here's the pdf for anyone that wants to see the whole deal.

If anyone had any doubt that I would find this exciting, well. Think more.

I genuinely find it really telling that a key selling point (for the people interested in the book selling, not necessarily for Dan) Is to realize that the numbers the book will pull will come mostly from an audience that Dan has cultivated over the years and not from like.. genuine interest from the self help/mental health interested community. I find it telling on what kind of information the book will focus on, or at least what the main focus of the promotion will be on. It was somewhat obvious, but it makes you think especially on the fact that the therapist that supposedly help with the book hasnt been nominated anywhere so far (unless I'm wrong)

I find even more interesting in the Marketing plan the point about Influencer Campaign. At first i thought they meant a campaign made by Dan, but then they make a point of specifying the promotion across the author's platform, so I'm wondering if they mean that the book will be sent out to influencers and they will promote it across their own platforms. Which is something that has happened before, but with this kind of book, and how separated Dan and Phil have made themselves from the general youtubers over the years, it would be interesting to see which influencer will be chosen to promote a book to their own fans.

Which makes me think of hilarious videos of Phil trying to promote dan's book in his own style.

Also.. what does Jacket Blowup even mean??

[kavat]

Great find dizzy!

Even though interviews rarely give us anything we didn't already know (exception being arch enemies/husband), I'm excited for all the interviews mentioned. Podcast interviews? Sign me the heck up.

Which makes me think of hilarious videos of Phil trying to promote dan's book in his own style.

Also.. what does Jacket Blowup even mean??

The thought of Phil getting paid and doing an actual hashtag spon for Dan's book is hilarious. Please, I would like to see it.

I thought a Jacket blowup was like a big printed cover to put in bookshop windows but then I googled it and found this so now i hope it's a blow up book sleeve for pool lounging.

[lefthandedism]

I find even more interesting in the Marketing plan the point about Influencer Campaign. At first i thought they meant a campaign made by Dan, but then they make a point of specifying the promotion across the author's platform, so I'm wondering if they mean that the book will be sent out to influencers and they will promote it across their own platforms. Which is something that has happened before, but with this kind of book, and how separated Dan and Phil have made themselves from the general youtubers over the years, it would be interesting to see which influencer will be chosen to promote a book to their own fans.

My first thought was Dan cross-marketing with John Green, whose "Anthropocene Reviewed" is coming out the same day. I'm not sure how that would work but certainly the personal connection is there.

So who might do it, who has a big enough audience these days? I'm not convinced that Dan is too isolated to make it work. We know Tyler is still a fan. And what about Jessica Kellgren-Fozzard? It would be very relevant to her channel, and Dan "mentored" her last year.

[Phantasy]

Anyone else catch Troye’s Architectural Digest tour of his (totally awesome) new place and think... damn, boys, hope you hire a decorator!

I don’t think they’ve mentioned working with a decorator specifically—think they will, or is no one up to the task to match their particular tastes?

[liola]

I find even more interesting in the Marketing plan the point about Influencer Campaign. At first i thought they meant a campaign made by Dan, but then they make a point of specifying the promotion across the author's platform, so I'm wondering if they mean that the book will be sent out to influencers and they will promote it across their own platforms. Which is something that has happened before, but with this kind of book, and how separated Dan and Phil have made themselves from the general youtubers over the years, it would be interesting to see which influencer will be chosen to promote a book to their own fans.

My first thought was Dan cross-marketing with John Green, whose "Anthropocene Reviewed" is coming out the same day. I'm not sure how that would work but certainly the personal connection is there.

So who might do it, who has a big enough audience these days? I'm not convinced that Dan is too isolated to make it work. We know Tyler is still a fan. And what about Jessica Kellgren-Fozzard? It would be very relevant to her channel, and Dan "mentored" her last year.

Oh i didn't mean isolated as in not relevant or important, more like.. they never really wanted to mesh with other youtubers even back in the day, and they were always were peculiar about who they associated themselves with.

John Green having a book out the same day is a nice idea, though what is the book about? I'm assuming the labels wouldn't want to risk competing too much in terms of sales and share audience, thought i doubt it would really matter

Hmmm Louise? The influencers that also participated in the Young Minds campaign a couple of years ago? I can't think of many that would fit honestly, and given the topic of the book it's also not something many would want to promote.

watch this be the moment for the infamous collab with Adrian

[Megancita75]

Anyone else catch Troye’s Architectural Digest tour of his (totally awesome) new place and think... damn, boys, hope you hire a decorator!

I don’t think they’ve mentioned working with a decorator specifically—think they will, or is no one up to the task to match their particular tastes?

OMG I saw that yesterday and LOVED his place. I don’t tend to like many of the places I’ve seen profiled on that channel but the smallish scale and warmth and colors in his house was very charming. Probably still extremely expensive but not off-putting or showy, at least to me.

And yeah, while I was watching it I thought of DnP being on that channel, but all I can think is them just walking around being like “here is a white wall and another white wall and this tree I hot-glued together and here is where we really wanted a bridge and a tree in the center of the house. But anyway, want to see our cereal cabinet?“

Also, thanks dizzy for posting that book info. The amount of obligations it entails seems overwhelming to me!

[plinthofmylife]

Seeing that list of promo obligations makes me REALLY understand why they don't feel like they can move at the same time that dan is doing all that.

[Catallena]

Yeah, it seems like a lot. I hope the boys will manage to get most of the move out of the way when the book promo circus starts for Dan.

btw Dan went a bit viral on kpop twt earlier this week and it made me smile.

[fruitcriminals]

I love that the cross channel marketing is ...literally being on phil's stereo show and youtube channel.

But I guess, their only real 'friendly' youtube friends are PJ and Louise in the UK and both PJ and Louise have either bought a house recently or redecorated. Neither dan nor Phil even like most of their instagram photos let alone leave a comment so I doubt they would feel obliged to do more than like a tweet from him. They might well just phone them up instead, or like them from a finsta account. But other creators do that too AND interact with their friends and promote them on main like Pews and Jack and Ken and Dave, the way they supported Corpse Husband and were genuinely proud of him when he started making more mainstream music etc. I can't imagine Phil for example sharing someone else's instagram story on his own just saying 'love this' and they've only been doing more insta to promote the Stereo. Your average office worker instagram stories more than them. And Dan didn't even like Zoella's baby video which I found kinda wild. Everyone liked that.

With Dan asking Tyler for design advice, I'm not sure they would have a decorator. But much like the comment about not getting a piano because of the price, like...lads you rented two flats in zone 1. That's nearly 7 grand a month just for rent. You can afford this piano.

[fruitcriminals]

Phil's killed me with that boomer karen tweet. I am literally dead. Most of the replies people have no idea what he is talking about. I am his age, I had no idea what he was talking about, my husband who is nearly 50 had to explain. I am deceased

[alittledizzy]

I love that the cross channel marketing is ...literally being on phil's stereo show and youtube channel.

But I guess, their only real 'friendly' youtube friends are PJ and Louise in the UK and both PJ and Louise have either bought a house recently or redecorated. Neither dan nor Phil even like most of their instagram photos let alone leave a comment so I doubt they would feel obliged to do more than like a tweet from him. They might well just phone them up instead, or like them from a finsta account. But other creators do that too AND interact with their friends and promote them on main like Pews and Jack and Ken and Dave, the way they supported Corpse Husband and were genuinely proud of him when he started making more mainstream music etc. I can't imagine Phil for example sharing someone else's instagram story on his own just saying 'love this' and they've only been doing more insta to promote the Stereo. Your average office worker instagram stories more than them. And Dan didn't even like Zoella's baby video which I found kinda wild. Everyone liked that.

With Dan asking Tyler for design advice, I'm not sure they would have a decorator. But much like the comment about not getting a piano because of the price, like...lads you rented two flats in zone 1. That's nearly 7 grand a month just for rent. You can afford this piano.

I think an influencer campaign would be more focused on the demographic of the book itself - Kati Morton, Kat Napiorkowska, even someone like Tomska that's posted videos about depression and mental health before. People who make sense promoting the book because they've also got content around the topic. (I know there are loads more but I'm drawing a blank.)

Phil's killed me with that boomer karen tweet. I am literally dead. Most of the replies people have no idea what he is talking about. I am his age, I had no idea what he was talking about, my husband who is nearly 50 had to explain. I am deceased

lmao I have to admit I've never felt more solidly millennial than when I instantly recognize a 20+ year old reference - and I looked it up, it's literally that old, that episode of The Simpsons aired in 1998.

[inanerat]

Anyone else catch Troye’s Architectural Digest tour of his (totally awesome) new place and think... damn, boys, hope you hire a decorator!

I don’t think they’ve mentioned working with a decorator specifically—think they will, or is no one up to the task to match their particular tastes?

OMG I saw that yesterday and LOVED his place. I don’t tend to like many of the places I’ve seen profiled on that channel but the smallish scale and warmth and colors in his house was very charming. Probably still extremely expensive but not off-putting or showy, at least to me.

And yeah, while I was watching it I thought of DnP being on that channel, but all I can think is them just walking around being like “here is a white wall and another white wall and this tree I hot-glued together and here is where we really wanted a bridge and a tree in the center of the house. But anyway, want to see our cereal cabinet?“

Also, thanks dizzy for posting that book info. The amount of obligations it entails seems overwhelming to me!

I had been meaning to watch this thanks for linking it lmao. I also really like the cozy cabin vibes but like... very expensive and in a city. I really enjoy some good color in spaces (sorry, Dan)

I can't imagine dnp doing something like this with an outside channel, but that video is the type of thing I would love to see from them, in a casual them way. Just walking around, giving little tidbits about things they really like and their thought processes behind things. Also in a way that while clearly showing the amount of money gone into it, isn't braggy or anything at all. Like you can almost forget about it until you do and it makes your head spin.

Also this fucking cracked me up

Troye: Not a lot of people know this about me but I am very, very gay. And so just in case people don't know that, I litter gay, homoerotic books all around the house.

Not only is this both me and my dreams for a space of my own but also every single queer person I know
Depz need to get some good tasteful gay art shit to sprinkle around, just saying.

[BlueSnoko]

As for Phil, maybe I'm in the minority, but I don't know that I'd want to see him as the host of a game show. For some reason (even though it doesn't benefit me as a fan), I'd like to see him do non-camera work right now more that on-camera work. Writing, collaborating in some way with other people, maybe doing an animation of some sort. I think I want to see him do something that's all about his creativity being the product, and not his on-camera personality.

When he was taking about unrealized projects, he mentioned a sci fi show. I hope with every fiber it happens one day. As a huge fan of early wierd Phil that possibility excites me most of all. His early narrative creepy films are all brimming with talent.
I love his narrative style, which leaves a lot for the audience to figure out and his world building, which seems to be a mix of his anxieties come to life, inserts of rl mundanity and fantastical technology. While a show would be cool, I've been thinking it would be fun to see him work with an artist and produce a graphic novel.