Dan & Phil Part 100: full-time internet homowners

Our two favourite full time internet nerds who never go outside!
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Rampurewal123456 wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 1:21 am Do you think that phil resents dan because he has more subscribers than him ?.

I think he doesn't and had never, but I feel it does contributes to his anxiety a bit - that idea of not being enough as a Youtuber, without directing his thoughts "against" Dan but against himself.

But anyhow: DAN'S COMMENT :cry: :cry: :cry:

I have to quote all of you and I do not know what to kind. Why am I so excited about this?? AHAH

That comment and that sneaky message is also sending me v-video vibes and I do not want to taint this perfect video with all the toxicity that came at the time but you understand. I am crying!
Appears so genuine, so loving, so caring and there must have been a big hug (and a slap! ahah) bwt them after Dan discovered it.
That comment is all for Phil - to reciprocate the public address/the exposition - and it's too cute.
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Also, what shocked me the most is Dan's IG story. "Gay energy" :prideheart2:
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I can't believe no one's mentioned "Dan & Phil are gonna scissor". Pure filth.
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I've just realised that it must have been shot before Dan's appearance at the student Union thing because I remember watching that and noticing a strange look on the side of his head, with a too-straight/visible line just above the ear and... well, this is why! lol
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I'm still not really able to put all of my thoughts into words. Dan and Phil love each other so much, that much is certain :happytears:
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Ok, timestamp time!
BlueSnoko, I really enjoyed yours!! they gave me a good laugh

0:11- Dan doesn't want Phil to snip the scissors next to his head, proceeds to get a haircut from him with the scissors next to his head
0:26- I can't remember when, but Phil has shown his hands before, apparently they're always a bit shakey. Do not let this man ever become a surgeon.
0:43- pointing out in editing that they are making eye contact in the mirror?? who fucking asked?? reminds me of that liveshow screenshot (and other times) where one of them is looking at the other fondly and the other is watching them on the computer screen.
1:02- the scissors are stuck on Phil's had and he suggests they "need some lubricant" honestly a fair shout probably wouldn't have been a terrible idea
1:08- there's something about Dan screaming "ahhhh come here idiot" that can be so personal
1:31- calling the fire engine. Dan always does a phone like this instead of the Y handshape. annoys me just as much as it always has
1:34- is that a character from Thomas the Tank Engine? I didn't even know there was a fire truck in that universe
1:36- D: can you please lube up my friend's ring finger? P: not the first time someone's said that. pure filth. Dan's face is appropriate
1:55- Phil talking about and miming decapitating Dan. Dan says that he is not helping in a way that really reminds me of Phil in the hair curling video
2:03- Phil has some ribena and veggie crisps for Dan to calm himself. what Dan says about supporting him and feeding him snacks later in the video? literally this.
2:30- Phil and his questionable phrases/proverbs strike again.
2:56- P: talk to me about your feelings, where are you at in life? Dan feels like they are in a transitional period of their lives, feels like things are happening for him with book and things coming up
3:11- 'it's good- review by Phil' in contrast to the end? Phil thinks it's more than good
3:17- Dan talks about being anxious about the book being out there in the world, facing the reality that what he's written and personal things in the book are actually going to be seen by lots of people. this part really reminded me that Dan still does get anxious and worried about reception of projects he's put so much energy and personal investment into.
3:46- Phil pulling Dan's ears out to the sides is so funny to me. he looks ridiculous
3:59- Phil likes the long top curls, but the back "is trash". don't know if that really changed over the course of this video tbh
4:11- I can't quite tell if that's Phil making that bird noise or an edit but I think it's him and honestly I'm impressed.
4:24- Dan pulls the long sides out from behind his ear and suddenly looks like 2011 liveshow Dan again. like honestly it's astonishing how he looks so different to then but you change the hair back and he looks exactly the fucking same
4:39- Phil is right, mullets are almost back in. Dan just needs to jump feet first into full queer style
4:44- D: one direction, more like 17 directions. Harry I have no Styles. absolute king of comedy
5:04- Phil wonders what would happen if he put a giant wax strip around Dan's head and ripped it off. his mind works in strange ways. Dan thinks it would decapitate him, Phil thinks it would make a good tiktok.
5:22- P: this is the naked, raw razor. D: put a rubber on it, a protective guard P: I've got this, be safe, I've got.. this is a haircutting video but dnp have managed to encourage safe sex somehow
5:35- Phil calls the 13mm guard 13in, then proceeds to comment how he "doesn't know how big a 13 incher is" more pure filth, this man knows no bounds
5:53- whole discussion involving the phrases "Dan's backdoor action", how Phil's gonna film it anyway and "OnlyDans" and how Phil will not be paying for that. so help me God.
6:05- more than 1/4th of the way through the video and they're actually getting started, have that giddy 'shit this is actually happening' moment
6:22- one thing I find really interesting, while Phil's been kind of bopping around and not really touching Dan even though he's right there, he puts a pretty solid hand on his shoulder when he actually does the first cut
6:55- P: yes, yes, ahh! D: ok you're not narrating a porn, can you concentrate slightly? back to filth, but also Phil's stressed, no-context commentary really isn't confidence inspiring
6:59- NEW HOUSE PIC I'm really curious what this room is? with like a built in shelf and little desk thing with a mirror above it. also the floor seems to be covered in some paper stuff, idk if it's like a protective layer for while builders are still stomping around? I'm still really curious about their flooring choices. 2nd pic is one we've seen before
7:10- Talk of golden pig and Phil starts shaving the chair. Dan's face and concerned voice here are so funny to me, he suddenly sounds a lot more british
7:25- Phil, ever a man of innovation, has a solution for getting the hair off the back of Dan's neck, which is a handheld hoover.
7:38- P: I think I just gave you a hoover hickey. wth Phil
7:47- both agree that beetroot is the best vegetable crisp. maybe the divorce over mushy peas can be recovered as they find common ground
8:13- the mushroom stage has been reached, and Dan is horrified. Phil insists that this is only stage one, and it always looks bad, which tbh is kind of true
8:36- Dan is concerned for his ears and wonders if he can sue Phil or get his Adsense. Phil asserts that he does not get his Adsense. There was a missed quip here from Phil about him paying Dan in exposure, but alas.
9:09- Phil encourages Dan to describe his book in 60 seconds to distract him from the stress of Phil cutting around his ears
9:17- Dan describes his book, how mental health applies to everyone, etc. etc.
9:34- First 'yeah' on the yeah counter, the whole counter had me rofling. Phil is being a good active listener! making sure that Dan knows he is being listened to! his 'yeah's just sound kind of flat lmao
9:48- Phil talks about how he is anxious and stressed a lot, and has realized that's not the ways he should be all the time and there are ways to deal with it
10:18- Phil says the book is personal and asks Dan how he feels about people seeing him completely 'naked'. his little laugh and smug-ish face after this, as well as the fact that it's zoomed in on is A Lot. what the fuck, Phil, cheeky shit
10:35- overlay of Reasons Why Dan's a Fail title screen, Phil really loves bringing up old 'cringy' Dan video things lmao (like the sexy endscreen dance overlay in the phan CAH vid)
11:16- Phil makes 'you will get through this haircut' joke. Dan is -.-
11:26- They choose random page to spoil, ends up being 'let's talk about the D word' I'm assuming in the book this means depression (could be wrong, tbf), but Phil is happy look straight into the camera and say "he's talking about d*ck".
11:33- Second try lands on 'more people, more problems'. about roasting the people that you live with, need for mutual understanding and appreciation of boundaries, which is actually really fucking sweet when you know they would hate not living with each other. Dan ends it with a joke about agreements using communal areas "#bath-" I'm assuming this was some reference to Phil spending too long in the bath/bathroom?
12:03- reminiscing and roasting each other's questionable hair choices over the years
12:10- finally time to go in with the scissors, Dan freaking out a bit. one litle thing I noticed and really appreciate is how Phil does actually stop and wait for Dan to finish what he's saying before putting the scissors back in his hair and asks before he actually cuts it.
12:37- Phil attempts to 'clean up the back' and make a straight line, queue heavy amount of straight jokes
12:49- turns out a jaggy, putting on my haircutting hat for a moments rant here, I really don't understand how you could do that badly like, it isn't that hard. also so much of Phil's problem was just not using enough different sizes/lengths of guard, so that there weren't noticeable edges in between lengths, really the biggest downfall
13:07- Dan talks about how he's "a bit emo at the moment these days", how making the book has made him think about their life and everything that has happened over the last 10 years, how far they've come and grown up and stuff, wanting people to be happy because he hasn't been happy in a lot of the last 10 years. :rainbowtears: something about this little bit reminds me of Dan talking about tabinof, like while they are hugely different books thematically, they have a lot of reflective and sentimental importance for him.
13:40- Therapist Phil connects that Dan is vulnerably putting himself out there with the book, as well as sitting in the chair and vulnerably allowing Phil to cut his hair. Dan doesn't like giving other people control.
13:59- Phil finally uses a mid-length guard to even things out a bit and it looks not as glaringly horrendous. still a 'perimeter' though. second ear is a bit more of a struggle
14:54- "Dan and Phil are gonna scissor" freak out over, back to filth
15:03- Phil really goes for it with trimming the side fringe, takes off a bit more than he should
15:24- after panicking, Dan pushes his hair around a bit and has a moment of realization and asks "do I look like a hot american tiktok zoomer?" moment for playing with hair and having fun imitating tiktokers
15:74- more book spoilers, page on 'social life', Dan jokes about how Phil needs this one (this is cut in? I'm not sure if it was from when they were going through the book the first time)
16:08- thinning shears come out, Phil is making happy sound effects that do not match with the stress of this whole situation
16:12- Phil ends up sprinkling some cut hair on Dan's crisp when he is about to eat it. Dan says "don't salt bae my own hair" which I had to look up 'cause I thought it was some bougie cooking term, but turns out 'salt bae' is the name of the meme with the guy sprinkling stuff. themoreyouknow.gif
16:18- talk about how when Dan was writing the book, sometimes he's randomly be up in the night writing. Phil tells a story 'waking up to get a glass of milk' and getting jumpscared by Dan in the lounge on his laptop. Fully believe that the jumpscare happened, just waking up next to him rather than 'getting up to get a glass of milk' but ok. reminds me of that clip from witl with Dan sitting in the bed in the dark writing on his laptop and Phil like 'what are you doing?'
16:42- yeah counter only made it to 4 but here is another one as Phil is listening to Dan
17:03- Phil is accidentally done. it looks "good" and "cool" imho a bit of a stretch but it's not the worst
17:37- Dan gets the tour, it's a mess. Dan says "Phil, tidy me up" which while I don't think it was meant to be filth, sounds to me like it could be right out of a smut fic. maybe I just have a terrible mind
17:46- a bit more of a look of what's behind the camera, Phil's laptop sitting on the pillar of cubes is causing me immense amounts of stress. there's a black shelf in the background, looks like it has a cute plushie and some figurines on it as well as some binders/books
17:49- discussion of how the top is all right (aka the bit Phil touched the least lol)
17:52- D: I'm a good top, just the bottom, people might want it but it's not there. More filth. Right after Dan says "I'm a good top" there's a zoom in, and while I get it's something they do for funny bits, dear GOD would I have liked to see Phil's face journey during this section.
18:07- ending book spon
18:26- Dan 'wholesome goodbyes' Howell talks about the importance of having people to support you and how Phil has been that for him. sappy, makes me cry. "through all the existential crisis, you've been there, feeding me snacks" this just reminds me of the College Dropout video, where Phil comforts Dan and offers him some chocolate as he comes out of his breakdown. that sketch has always felt so real to me and it really hits how Phil has been such an important support for Dan
18:41- Phil says thanks, but says it was too positive and slaps Dan to break the tension. Classic goodbyes and thumbing
18:52- D: hey, subscribe to me, I'm gonna upload something in June. very exciting, and feels weird to know that a Dan upload is coming in not to long? is this real life?
19:14- Phil's really sweet post-message on how he is proud of Dan, how he's grown, is too modest about the book. Phil laughed and cried. Phil has seen how happy Dan has been after learning this stuff and wants that for us :rainbowtears:
This end clip is a LOT so here's a few broken down thoughts:
1. looks like Phil also got a haircut between the filming of the video and this clip
2. this clip just makes me so emotional. I saw someone on twitter say how it has a lot of BONCAS and [redacted] (v-day vid) energy and I agree. I really, really appreciate Phil taking a moment to express how proud he is of Dan, it's just so fucking loving and makes me crY. it was honestly jarring to have the cut to the square webcam and the moment of such sincerity from Phil. I've also just generally been having some Feelings about how little things feel like sort of throwbacks to 2009-10 deppy, but in a grown up, comfortable way (really feels like observing young love from then and later, married type love now, we just got cut out a bit in the middle (and that's ok) Honestly it feels so healing to me and I dearly hope it feels that way to them.
3. Dan's comment to Phil's end bit is just icing on the cake of me already being emo about them

wowee that was a lot. this video was a lot and I love it a lot <3 <3
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Levitating wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 12:41 pm student Union thing
? Not the National Student Pride Health Panel? His hair is pretty long in that.
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BlueSnoko wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 7:13 pm
Levitating wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 12:41 pm student Union thing
? Not the National Student Pride Health Panel? His hair is pretty long in that.
Agreed it definitely wasn’t cut before. I went back and watched to see and it’s long. It’s all bushed behind his ears.
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I finally watched the vid and so many things to love, but i just overall was thrilled at the relaxed and even joyful energy in it. It felt so at peace to me.

I am and will be interested in all that Dan has to say about some of his struggle with self-acceptance and understanding his brain, but now I really, really want to hear more from Phil about his anxiety and having a social life and how his thinking about that might be changing.

I know he's talked about it before here and there, but the way he just matter-of-fact acknowledged it as severe and a problem in this vid just makes me want to hear from him (if he ever wants to and if he's ready; i don't get the impression it's something he's actively working on in quite the focused way Dan probably worked on his own issues once he was on the life raft of therapy and meds, and I'm sure "Project Sphere" was very derailed by Covid, but for some reason I am so so touched by Phil just sharing a few more glimpses of his inner life lately and greedily want more.)
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I don't think I've ever watched a DnP video this many times, certainly not this many times in 24 hours. I always read and enjoy everyone's timestamps, but with this video I've been looking at the timestamp, skipping to that part, laughing along and going onto the next one.

I can't pinpoint exactly what it is that I love so much about this video in particular? I think it's just how at ease they seem, it doesn't feel forced even if it is dramatized for entertainment's sake. I've been loving all of their content extra much lately, both the solo AP videos and their joint content.
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Secretstanner wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 7:23 pm
BlueSnoko wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 7:13 pm
Levitating wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 12:41 pm student Union thing
? Not the National Student Pride Health Panel? His hair is pretty long in that.
Agreed it definitely wasn’t cut before. I went back and watched to see and it’s long. It’s all bushed behind his ears.
Oh you're right!
I just remember I had noticed on his right side there seemed to be a 'straight' line :lol:


The video is trending on Youtube! <3
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Considering Phil's video's on trending (for mine in the UK anyway), I'm quite shocked that as of typing this:

DNP trending at no. 12 with nearly 450k views, 86k likes and 114 dislikes. 5.9k comments
The comments seem in the vast majority to be very +ve, saw a moaning one about it being a book spon, a gay slur from a profile that looked like a straight man, and the rest of them are summed up by 'dan screaming', 'phil is a menace to hair, dan and himself' and 'we love this'.

Chunkz's trending at number 7 with around 360k views, 44k likes and 214 dislikes. 1.8k comments.
Comments were a mixed bag, positive, negative, some straight up calling the video trash, some racist.

Not quite sure if this just shows that people are more racist than homophobic though so I compared it also to:

Zerkaa at no. 34 on trending with 1.2 million views, 80k likes and 527 dislikes. 1.7k comments.
Comments were quite amusing due to a lot of them being nothing really to do with the video, mostly positive, people happy for him to be on trending as he isn't normally and people who were very hungry (its a food video).


So Phil's got a better like to dislike ratio than all of them, has higher likes than someone with nearly triple his views, has more comments than all of them and has like double the amount of people saying they love the content than all of them.

Considering the mess that is normally a youtube comments section, this is pretty impressive!
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wow thank you for this analysis!

I guess the like signify that there's more engagement and ads like that, right? Which means that DnP's internet finances are doing well thus all the better for us as we want the content to continue! :D

But since we're talking about numbers, why is that the videos w lower views are trending higher than others with more views? :shock:


Also, WHERE are the edits about 1:00 and 1:06?? :rofl: Am I the only one who totally saw some kind of echo of the wedding proposal ghost?
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(a niche off topic question, sorry... But did anyone order from Waterstones in the UK and get a link to be able to get a ticket to Dan's event with John green? The swipe link he keeps sharing says if already bought one then will be emailed a way to get a ticket without having to buy again but I'm yet to get any emails?)
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Tornbetweenfandoms wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 3:18 pm (a niche off topic question, sorry... But did anyone order from Waterstones in the UK and get a link to be able to get a ticket to Dan's event with John green? The swipe link he keeps sharing says if already bought one then will be emailed a way to get a ticket without having to buy again but I'm yet to get any emails?)
Saw this on twitter, I know it says if you're not from the UK but I am assuming the email is the same whether you're from the UK or not to contact them and find out what is happening, I also saw another few tweets about people complaining they didn't get the link in an email

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Levitating wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 1:41 pm wow thank you for this analysis!

I guess the like signify that there's more engagement and ads like that, right? Which means that DnP's internet finances are doing well thus all the better for us as we want the content to continue! :D

But since we're talking about numbers, why is that the videos w lower views are trending higher than others with more views? :shock:


Also, WHERE are the edits about 1:00 and 1:06?? :rofl: Am I the only one who totally saw some kind of echo of the wedding proposal ghost?
I guess trending must be a combo of likes, watches, and comments? TBH I was just trying to distract myself as there's quite a lot of drama in london today with displays of antisemitism and i am going to order a pizza and stay in my dnp bubble where things are, for once, not a complete hellscape.

Lol re edits of that, I love that your mind and Dan's mind are aligned, and that Phil included the bit with Dan saying ring finger :lol:
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Can anyone who has the book confirm the page count? Was just checking on the shipment status of my copy (UK, signed) and noticed that Waterstones lists the signed edition as 252 pages and the non-signed as 320 Pages, but they're both the UK hardback edition???
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I'm watching the Dan and John Green book event and I just really love their dynamic together. I love John in general so I'm biased there but I love the mutual admiration.
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alittledizzy wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 11:07 pm I'm watching the Dan and John Green book event and I just really love their dynamic together. I love John in general so I'm biased there but I love the mutual admiration.
same same same same same

and john green genuinely loving this book? bookmarking it? i just... :loveeyes: :loveeyes: :loveeyes: :loveeyes:
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Given that Dan said they'd be uploading it somewhere, I don't want to put the video online publicly - but should anyone happen to not want to wait perhaps you should message me and we could chat about ways in which it can be viewed? :ribena:
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:prideheart2: once in twenty lifetimes :biheart:
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When John said he was proud of Dan at the end of the talk, I actually started tearing up. Such a fantastic talk and John was the perfect host. I don't really know what to say about this one other than it was really wonderful listening them talk as two people who live very niche lives and get each other in a way not many others could really understand. I feel like we got a side of Dan that not many other interviewers would be able to pull out either, like the Vidcon club story. I'm feeling all the emotions over this one.

And thank you alittledizzy for being a legend
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I feel so spoiled waking up to so much Dan content!

The talk with John was so lovely. They understand each others experiences in such a unique way and you can tell that they have such respect for one another. So lovely.

The podcast was good too, I feel like I was a good conversation about growing up online, learning how to live with social media in a healthy way and learning from past mistakes.

One more day!! :thisnight:
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Question for the people who have read/started to read the book: without spoilers, do you think it’s the type of book that will work well as an audio book? I’m kind of tempted to get the audio version when it releases since my physical copy is going to be arriving late but idk how well self-help works as audio.
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This really has been a few days of great content. I’ve loved the podcasts and the clips of the John interview I saw. Dan speaking to peers who ask him sensible questions, praise him for the work he has done and either don’t mention Phil at all, or who mention him casually as an aside. It must be a weight off his mind knowing that these people are far less likely to go on a weird line of questioning.

It must also be strange having these types of people tell him how proud they are of him, that he is clever and his work is useful and will help people. I hope it’s been a confidence boost to him as he’s participated in them over the last few weeks.

In hindsight I :rainbowtears: even more at that end video clip Phil added in. The fact he watched it back, decided nope, I want to say my piece even if he tells me off, I’m doing it anyway. Like the good old days when Phil was a complete weirdo who posted twit pics of Dan sleeping like that isn't weird af :lol: .

Re the audiobook - I’ve pre-ordered mine and apparently there is some sort of additional q&a at the end so if anyone wants me to transcribe it when I get to that bit just let me know.
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another interview!
fruitcriminals wrote: Mon May 17, 2021 11:01 am Re the audiobook - I’ve pre-ordered mine and apparently there is some sort of additional q&a at the end so if anyone wants me to transcribe it when I get to that bit just let me know.
I'd love to read this if it's not too much work to transcribe!
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