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The thread for all things #TIT in Europe!

Are you going to see any of the dates in Europe? Want to meet up with others?

We want to hear all your reviews and opinions from this date. Seen a photo from the m&g you want to discuss, go ahead, we love a good discussion.

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Dates:

4 September 2024 - Antwerp, Belgium - Stadsschouwburg
7 September 2024 - Copenhagen, Denmark - K.B. Hallen
8 September 2024 - Berlin, Germany - Tempodrom
9 September 2024 - Warsaw, Poland - Progresja
11 September 2024 - Frankfurt, Germany - Jarhunderthalle KLuppelsaal
13 September 2024 - Stockholm, Sweden - Waterfront Hall
16 September 2024 - Oslo, Norway - Folketeateret
18 September 2024 - Helsinki, Finland - Kulttuuritalo

31 January 2025 - Dublin, Ireland - Convention Centre Dublin
6 February 2025 - Amsterdam, Netherlands - AFAS Live
7 February 2025 - Reykjavik, Iceland - Haskolabio
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Currently in line for the m&g in what must be the hottest building in Belgium. My feet are screaming.
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I couldn't help myself and I looked up spoilers. Currently melting into a puddle about them confirming December as their anniversary :rainbowtears:
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Hello everyone! Does anyone know how long is the show? <3
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JLynne wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 9:52 pm I couldn't help myself and I looked up spoilers. Currently melting into a puddle about them confirming December as their anniversary :rainbowtears:
May I have a hint as to where to find said spoilers?
I re-opened my twitter for this but I'm too out of the loop now and the main hashtags are nearly empty :')

edit: apparently there were people streaming the audio? and people transcribing? does anyone know if anything came out of that?

so i think it's only fair that he comes up here and shares this with me
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pararlama wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 10:49 am
JLynne wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 9:52 pm I couldn't help myself and I looked up spoilers. Currently melting into a puddle about them confirming December as their anniversary :rainbowtears:
May I have a hint as to where to find said spoilers?
I re-opened my twitter for this but I'm too out of the loop now and the main hashtags are nearly empty :')

edit: apparently there were people streaming the audio? and people transcribing? does anyone know if anything came out of that?
okay grandma figured it out so I thought to make it simple for those who also haven't used twitter in nearly a decade
-the main hashtags for spoilers are #titspoilers and #dnptitspoilers
-user spreadersforTIT is making lose transcripts (more like a summary) of each show based on streams of the audio
-u can see the first summary here

so i think it's only fair that he comes up here and shares this with me
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Copenhagen show just ended, so here I come days late with my in depth post about Antwerp. Fashionably late as always.

Disclaimer: I have the memory of a goldfish, I may misremember stuff or have made shit up who knows.

The Meet & Greet and Q&A:
We (me and Ataraxia25) were pretty far to the back of the line so at the start most of our updates on the whole situation like outfits, merch, etc. came from Twitter, just like for everyone else. Except we were sitting on the floor of what must've been the hottest building in Belgium because our feet hurt lol. We got our VIP tote bags with special photocards, lanyard, a big photo and 'very important phan' friendship bracelet while in line.

Things were a bit messy with security going back and forth on whether people were allowed to film their friends and how many pictures they could take. The rule was one but DnP (or just Dan since he takes all the pictures) were kinda inconsistent with this. I do think the first one of these things is bound to be chaotic, but it did happen that people got just one pic that ended up being blurry. The lighting situation wasn't the best imo, but we've seen much worse in the past. DnP were lovely of course. They both complimented my blue glitter dress and Phil said I looked celestial :sparkle:

For the Q&A, questions were collected in the room after the meet & greet through pieces of paper on which you could write one and put it in a blue letterbox called The Phlit. You know what maybe the wildest thing about the Q&A was imo? How funny they are and how insane their chemistry truly is, even while dicking around answering questions on a stage in front of people while unscripted. Crazy, the internet boys are real entertainers now.

The Show:
IT WAS SO GOOD. Some of it genuinely among the best stuff they've ever created. And very different from TATINOF and II, 'cause they've grown and we've grown, and it's genuinely a celebration of that. It gives a good insight to their current mindset and how they handle the past and approach the future. I don't think the whole thing it's quite as unhinged as some might have feared, but there's definitively stuff in there that hits. As always, Dan's performance on stage is incredible like he's a theatre kid through and through and he shines, but I also think Phil has REALLY improved since TATINOF/II. No where near as awkward as I remember. I think it all has to do with him just being more confident in general, he's really feeling himself lol.

Spoilertastic Fun Stuff Under Here:

- The start of the show with the Barbies and dioramas is so funny and creative. They explain the lore of Dan and Phil in eras represented by diorama's of the places they lived in so it's like Phil's room at his parent's house, Manchester flat(s), firs London flat etc. While telling the story they not so subtly smash the Barbies together at some points or bent over the Manchester breakfast bar. It's a really good intro to the rest of the show, preparing you for the tone and the level of not giving a fuck you're gonna get. PJ and Sophie made the diorama's and they look incredible.

- We got to the conspiracy theories waaaaay earlier in the shoow than I had expected. It is introduced like one of those iceberg tier memes, with 4 levels. Every level gives the audience the choice between two theories only identified by keywords like 'pumpkin' versus ''toilet'. Based on what the audience screams loudest for, they explain the conspiracy theory and then confirm whether it's true or not. The ones chosen were: Them Having Couple Toiulets in the Phouse (not true but was also more of a joke on twt than a legit conspiracy video), Phil's Sleepness Night videos being fake (true but not all of them i think), them sharing the big bed in the TATINOF tour bus (true and one of the most insane reveals of the show, explain they did the rock paper scisssors and dan crawling out of that bunk for content and they probably wouldn't have made it a big deal if YouTube hadn't been there filming), and last but not least They Got Married in Japan or 2022 (not true, Dan goes on a mini rant about being opposed to weddings because they're traditions and Phil tells the audience Dan has commitment issues).

Now I really hope they're not doing the same 8 'conspiracies' for the whole tour because that'd be boring, but also because not all of them are winners. There's much better stuff out there. The TATINOF bus bed reveal is huge of course, but unless there are more pumpkin SPICED theories I am not aware Phil obviously not being the dancing pumpkin guy is boring and has already been addressed at some point I think. Similarly 'wedding' as a keyword sounds very juicy, which will probably make people (who avoid spoilers) scream for it more, but that theory was always deeply unserious. (note: this apparently happened in copenhagen and i really hope we're not dealing with cake scene 2.0.)

The bed reveal was really such a big thing though, I can't get over it. They said it somewhat casually and the crowd literally gasped and it was completely silent for a second it was AMAZING.

- Role Model or No Role Model. This strongly reminded me of Interactive Introverts and it was fine but I honestly don't remember much about it. There's a reason for that. In 2017 I made a niche joke about Phil obviously being the one dealing with sponsorships and such on Twitter. Honestly I don't quite remember how it came to be and the tweet I was replying to is deleted now, but I tweeted this:
I brought the joke to IDB and friends from here used it too, but at some point it broke containment and started spreading on Twitter and Tumblr as well (not always in a nice way tbh). Dan and Phil acknowledging Phil's reputation and the capitalism jokes has gone on for a while now but they've never actually said the phrase Capita£ester. Until now. I am not even kidding when I say I blacked out for 10 seconds, like it was UNREAL to me just sitting there in that audience. If I ever meet them again I'm bringing a print out of that tweet for them to sign (and apologize to Phil maybe lol).

- After this they talked about having done it all on YouTube and what they would even do if they'd continue. Phil mentions that in December it will mark 15 years of Dan and Phil. This is significant because it proves a theory about their real anniversary being in December. He definitely did not say October. He said December. As we all know (seriously if not how did yout get here) that Dan and Phil met on October 19th 2009 and obviously they really hit it off, so that's what the phandom celebrates and they have always just let us have that. But over the years, with the help from the iconic Phan Timeline, a theory emerged that a certain period in late November and early December seemed more significant for them. So that's confirmed now I guess? WIld.

- Anyway back to DnP's future on YouTube. They name some nowadays popular genres of online content like Vtubers, family vlogging and Onlyfans. They reenact some potential content aaaaand I kinda don't remember what else happened here until BOXING. They had boxing robes over their stage outfits and had boxing gloves on, a referee appears and when they start 'fighting' the referee drags Phil's off stage and Dan storms off by himself.

And then starts the 15 minute break. I left the room at this point, but during that staff set up a fake boxing ring and some people in the audience got given those little foam fingers that sports fans have to support their team or whatever.

- After the break DnP return to the stage in boxing outfits, with Phil 'shirtless' aka wearing silicone abs. They do a incredibly choreographed and incredibly homoerotic fight, complete with questionable positions and hair pulling. I could say a lot about it, but somehow I am still speechless so it needs to be seen to be believed I fear. (I'm guessing this is how Phil hurt his ribs.)

- Uhhh more stuff that I don't remember very clearly happens, I think they ask the audience for subjects to do a monologue about and it was about feet? Dan rants about relatability a bit here too I think, but while he's doing that Phil gets bored and starts playing Subway Surfers on the screen. As Dan keeps talking the game sound gets louder and louder until his yelling gets drowned out completely by the music and he leaves the stage.

- Phil's monologue! I really liked this part. It seemed very real and sincere. He talked about how long he's been doing YouTube and asked whether there are any (near) 18 year olds in the audience 'cause that's how old his channel is turning soon. He explained that he has always really believed in the power of light content like the stuff he makes (though at the same time he also said his content is mid NOOOOO), but he then praises Dan for making more serious content about topics like depression and his sexuality and says that Dan inspired him which is sweet. He also talks about burnout and how the hiatus affected him. It's not the obvious choice to let Phil be the center of a serious part of a show, but such a good one. Loved it.

- Dan appears back on stage after the monologue. Or should I say Sister Daniel makes her debut? I don't wanna know how many of those costumes they've had to buy as backups lol. She pranced around the stage like the hot girl she is and dropped a crucifix, which she picked back up by suggestively bending over in front of Phil, making it look like a lap dance. Phil changed into Father Philip and they were then ready to hear confessions from the audience. They spray the audience with holy water so heads up if you're in the first 4 or 5 rows; you're in the splash zone.

- They then went off stage to change back into their usual stage outfits, you hear sounds and dialogue of them changing but out of context it sounds like they're having sex.

- Back to something more serious, they talked about coming out, coming back etc. Central in this part is the relationship with their audience, the pros and cons, and how it has evolved. Dan said that fans trying to guess/expose his sexuality back then reminded him of getting bullied at school, Phil gave an example of being outed to his brother by invasive fans. And there was no precedent on how to handle online fanbases like theirs, so they really just had to figure it out while dealing with the trauma that came with it. But also, that by the time they were ready to come out the phandom had created an inclusive community of fellow LGBTQ+ people and allies in which they felt save. And they were very appreciative of that. I'm not doing this part justice at all, but it was such a great and satisfactory note to end this how. So SO good.

- They end the show by dropping the Song Of The Year. Also I want an interview with their dance teacher / choreographer.
If you somehow read this and don't have tickets yet, GO SEE THEM!! I can't wait for more people to watch the show, nor can I wait to watch it again in London in January!

A video of the Antwerp Q&A:

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The different “conspiracies” in Copenhagen:
In stead of the toilets, it was the pumpkin. Obviously, Phil was not the pumpkin man. Pretty sure they have said that quite a few times, but find to start out with something silly like that I guess.
In stead of the tour bus, it was the pole. The answer was that no the pole is not for bdsm or whatever, its for pillows, accompanied by a photo of the bed with said pillows.
Honestly I always thought it was for pillows, I’ve seen that in about a thousand inspiration posts of bedroom design, but it does seem like a lot of people actually legit thought is was for strapping hand cuffs to…

Really hoping they choose Vegas tonight!
The clothes one doesn’t seem interesting, my guess is that it’s about sharing clothes, and there are plenty of pictures of that, so it’s not really a conspiracy…
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Catallena wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2024 11:14 pm

- Role Model or No Role Model. This strongly reminded me of Interactive Introverts and it was fine but I honestly don't remember much about it. There's a reason for that. In 2017 I made a niche joke about Phil obviously being the one dealing with sponsorships and such on Twitter. Honestly I don't quite remember how it came to be and the tweet I was replying to is deleted now, but I tweeted this:
I brought the joke to IDB and friends from here used it too, but at some point it broke containment and started spreading on Twitter and Tumblr as well (not always in a nice way tbh). Dan and Phil acknowledging Phil's reputation and the capitalism jokes has gone on for a while now but they've never actually said the phrase Capita£ester. Until now. I am not even kidding when I say I blacked out for 10 seconds, like it was UNREAL to me just sitting there in that audience. If I ever meet them again I'm bringing a print out of that tweet for them to sign (and apologize to Phil maybe lol).

omg that's amazing I legit love that for you
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Coming here with a belated post about TIT Warsaw. I can't believe it's been a week since then. I wanna go again :rainbowtears:

After being a fan for over 10 years, this was the first time coming to their tour as I'm now an (ir)responsible adult with some money. So my sister and I took off for a 4 day trip to Poland to see our favorite boys and while the complicated travel home had me saying I'm never going on another trip again, another part of my brain is like "well if I could just make a round trip somewhere where they are, I'd go again". But everything is too far so that's a moot point.

I didn't allow myself to get too excited before the trip because I was scared something would go wrong (I hate being like that), especially when the Taylor concert my sister was supposed to go to a month prior got cancelled the night before. So I was very anxious before the trip but it got better once we were there. The show was happening in a club right next to a shopping center so while we were waiting to go there on the day off, we were just circling the stores there and trying not to panic :lol: We were then waiting outside for over an hour and it was drizzling for a bit so not ideal, but then the nervousness went away. It was so fun to see so many phannies everywhere as I never met one in the wild before.

We had the silver VIP and sat in the second row which was reaaaly close to the stage. They gave us a jump scare when they came out for the Q&A because we were just chilling and taking photos and suddenly they were there! No warning! So tall and pretty <3 The stage was really tall and I'm really short so it kinda felt like I had to lean my head back the whole time, but worth it. I thought that since the Q&A was for Silver VIP as well, that we'd get to put in the questions as well, but sadly no. I guess then there would be too many. For some reason I thought there were way less silver vip tickets than there actually were. Probably because of my panic when buying them and how quickly they sold out.
The Q&A was, as always, hilarious, but I assume anyone who cares already listened to the audio somewhere.

Now for the main main event
The show started with some loud bang or something that had us all jumping out of our seats. I guess a promise of what was coming.

The retelling of their history with the dolls was so funny and so well done. I wish I had more eyes and could watch the screen and them at the same time.

The conspiracy theories part was obviously something I was most anxious about so I'm glad it was towards the beginning. Not that I'd expect them to go "yeah, we've been dating for 15 years" but the chances are never zero, right? Gotta say though that they picked really mild stuff to choose from. Especially as some of the things (the pumpkin man, sharing clothes) have been talked about many times. While the toilet thing was a one video joke and the sleepless night with Phil was debunked by the fans, we just needed Phil to admit it. So at my show people picked pumpkin, the faked sleepless night video, the bar above Dan's bed (also talked about in the past, just not what people wanted to accept) and the Japhan wedding. So nothing super surprising. I wish I was there for the shows where they admitted to sharing the tour bus bed. That feels like the wildest one of this bunch. I hope that they switch it up as the tour goes forward and maybe spice things up because the ratio of false and true theories is off at the moment.

The role model or nolemodel (or however it's meant to be spelled) bit was fine. People were predictably shouting a lot of profanities so lawyer Dan ended up banning yaoi (something the person typing that had a lot of struggle typing, which was hilarious as Dan and Phil tried to instruct them), he was writing fiction about pierogi and went to prison for crime (Dan pointed out that this is the extend of the English we learned from them). On the other hand linguist Phil's favorite word was cum, he helped old ladies squirt and collected old ladies' teeth. But it was still the real Dan and Phil who got sent to die.

Speaking of cum (ffs) at some point someone threw a bracelet that said cum on the stage and Dan picked it up and put it on. But said he doesn't want it to become a thing and by the last show for the stage to be covered with those bracelets.

The boxing segment was fun, though the internet says they toned it down from the earlier shows? That was toned down? I did NOT expect them to run through the audience though. I'm curious how that's gonna work in all the different places they're going to, especially the bigger venues in the US.

In the segment where the audience can give them any topic to talk about it was apples. Phil likes them, Dan hates them because the skin gets stuck in his teeth. Dan was surprised by there being a strong apples fandom with strong opinions in the audience. For some reason they're surprised that this is the content we'd happily watch. Will they ever understand that them, their personality and their humor is what we want no matter the topic? Sure, there are people who are saying that they don't watch the fully sponsored videos but like... couldn't be them.

It's interesting, though a bit sad, to heat Phil talk about feeling lost when making videos without Dan and how he doesn't consider his content from that time that great because I don't see it that way. Though yeah, when I look back at some videos, it feels like Dan is kept out of them in an unnatural way and that makes me a bit sad about that time. But overall I love Phil's videos. Not every one hits the same, but he's so funny and he carried us through the hiatus but that doesn't mean his content wasn't good.

Anyway, after that sadder moment we get the duo of this decade, Sister Daniel and father Philip. Having seen this bit from several shows now, I believe Phil doesn't need to pretend to get into his outfit, he's just like that :lol: The one confession that killed both me and seemingly Dan, was someone saying that when they had Dan and Phil as their phone background, they were embarrassed and lied that D&P were their cousins who died. :rofl: I really hope this one wasn't just made up because it's too hilarious.

Some sex noises and heartfelt talk about coming out later, we get to THE part of the show that hasn't left my brain since and that is the song and dance. I was expecting some sort of musical number but I had no idea what it could be. When they brought in the ukulele and the slower song I was like "okay, this doesn't seem like enough" and oh boy, was I right. The singing, the text, the fucking choreography! I'm in love with it and I'm searching for any and all videos that exist of this. Dan is obviously the theater kid here and Phil is trying his best (very relatable, I can't follow movements to save my life) but they're both so good and I hope to see them react to this in some 5+ years on the gaming channel :lol: Also the fact that it turns into a rave in the last minute or two? I didn't think I needed that. Love that when Dan posted a clip of it from my show, people were like "Are there no seats?" :rofl: It sure looked that way but no, we had shitty folding chairs for the rest of the show.
All in all 11/10 would do again if I didn't live in the middle of nowhere. While there is a lot of stuff that seems to repeat in all shows, there is more stuff that changes than I expected, so I can see how this would be something to go to more than once as oppose to something like TATINOF that was heavily scripted. The biggest disadvantage of watching something live is that you can't immediately rewind and rewatch. Also I just felt tired by the intermission because I was laughing so much and having to take in so much content at once. And yet I need more now.
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Please keep us updated on how the tour is going here, for those of us with no Twitter lol
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Pre-show Q&A recordings:

Antwerp

Copenhagen

Frankfurt

Stockholm

Oslo

Helsinki

No recordings available for Berlin and Warsaw.
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I went a little crazy and bought a ticket for the Reykjavik show.

I have missed all the other tours for various reasons and I just really felt that it would be special to see the last show of this one. I have seen it once but I felt like I was too stunned to really take it in.

I do not live in Iceland and haven't yet got anything planned but I will figure it out. If there is anyone who is coming to the Reykjavik show, feel free to let me know, I would love to meet someone! I have never met anyone from the phandom and this could be a great experince.
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I’m coming to the Amsterdam show (it’s a lil gift to myself for finishing my PhD!)! I’ve never met up with anyone in the phandom before due to being super socially awkward (like diagnosably so but I swear I’m nice too) and also not really using social media. But I’m feeling adventurous- if anyone wants to meet up before the show, let me know (no worries if not! lol). Fyi I’m 29.
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Last night (Amsterdam), the topic they talked about to prove they aren’t entertaining (it didn’t work) was bikes. The audience booing Phil saying it’s sometimes hard to tell where the bike lanes are was so funny. I feel like they don’t get booed often so it’s important to keep them humble :rofl:
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Am I posting 3 times in a row? Yes. Is that weird? Most certainly yes. Anyway.

Since they started and ended the tour in Europe, I’m thinking there might be some people who saw one of the first shows and one the last shows. So I’m wondering if anyone did see a first and last shows, if there were any marked differences between them? Like things they cut or added or changed?
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