Re: What happened to GG?

[timtam]

What is wrong with these people!? Those comments about the language barrier are just unbelievable!

GG is currently down for me (I keep checking in on the drama because I can't help myself) so clearly everything is going well for them

Edit: Actually I've just gotten back on. I love that the confusion/clarification post by Morgan is just filled with D&P thread people asking why things are happening.

And threads have been reopened but the last posts in the D&P thread are just from mods.

[angrymob]

Is the DDos Protection new for GG or has it always been turned on? This is first time I've been checked for it (please ignore my webcrawler with the same ip, GG, he means no harm).

[blueapple_x]

Is the DDos Protection new for GG or has it always been turned on? This is first time I've been checked for it (please ignore my webcrawler with the same ip, GG, he means no harm).

I've never seen that scanning thing before. What's that about? I don't know much about this kind of thing. Is this basically scanning and saving our ip addresses?

[ritardando]

Is the DDos Protection new for GG or has it always been turned on? This is first time I've been checked for it (please ignore my webcrawler with the same ip, GG, he means no harm).

This thing?

Because yeah, that's new for me as well. I think that might've been why the site was just down for a while... Does anyone know exactly what that does?

P.S. Also seems like Tapatalk doesn't work anymore because of it

[swofro]

God, I hate Morgan's reply.

The two names I've received thus far: The requested user does not exist.

Anonymousse and Human Holiday .... (and if you are the owner of these accounts, please contact me directly via email)...

Of course they dont exist anymore, you twat. Your effing mods banned them.

[wtfamidoinghere]

This is what i posted over at Gigi. How would i know if those users want their "ghost" posts recovered? I'm not even sure if he's being sarcastic here. Obviously these people didn't want their accounts deleted.

And honestly, my trust is so far gone that i wouldn't believe any recovered posts he produces. I'd think they were all edited, so i guess i'll just not answer and leave Gigi for good.

He kind of ignored most of my post anyway, but i don't really care anymore.

Maybe they asked for their account to be deleted? I don't know, but you can't expect me to know everything. I can find out, if you give me enough information and maybe even bring back those GHOST posts.... would you like that?

I would like to know why this -> http://*the site that shall not be named, ty.prophpbb.com/ is considered spam? WARNING: SPAM DETECTED
I get why you want it deleted, it's competition, but last time i checked there was no rule against it and calling it spam just seems very unjustified. It would be spam if it was posted a lot, but it was only reposted, because it kept getting deleted. Despite there not being a rule against it.

And like everybody else i would like an explanation for all the bans. As of right now the only ban that has been explained was jhamba's (lots of people are saying she was just criticizing GIS's mod behaviour, but at least the strong language is an explanation.), but what about human holiday or mermaid blood? Oqua? And i know there have been lots of others. And all of them say they have not even been warned.

I didn't even care much about the original drama with GIS, but the censoring of people politely asking for an explanation has really put me off.

If long time posters (who aren't known for being rude or anything) suddenly disappear, it's understandable that people want answers, isn't it?

[angrymob]

Is the DDos Protection new for GG or has it always been turned on? This is first time I've been checked for it (please ignore my webcrawler with the same ip, GG, he means no harm).

I've never seen that scanning thing before. What's that about? I don't know much about this kind of thing. Is this basically scanning and saving our ip addresses?

I'm not an expert in networks, so the technical aspects of this might be wrong, but it's to prevent Denial of Service attacks, where users and bots direct more traffic/data to a site than the site can handle in an attempt to get it to crash. From what I understand Cloudflare's DDos protection means site requests from users are filtered through cloudflares services first in an attempt to mitigate potential DDos attacks. I doubt it logs your ip in anyway that would be a privacy breach, since Cloudflare is a pretty respectable service. I just don't want to flag my data collection. My ip at my parents' house is still blocked from the NHL's website for that, hehe.

[blueapple_x]

Is the DDos Protection new for GG or has it always been turned on? This is first time I've been checked for it (please ignore my webcrawler with the same ip, GG, he means no harm).

I've never seen that scanning thing before. What's that about? I don't know much about this kind of thing. Is this basically scanning and saving our ip addresses?

I'm not an expert in networks, so the technical aspects of this might be wrong, but it's to prevent Denial of Service attacks, where users and bots direct more traffic/data to a site than the site can handle in an attempt to get it to crash. From what I understand Cloudflare's DDos protection means site requests from users are filtered through cloudflares services first in an attempt to mitigate potential DDos attacks. I doubt it logs your ip in anyway that would be a privacy breach, since Cloudflare is a pretty respectable service. I just don't want to flag my data collection. My ip at my parents' house is still blocked from the NHL's website for that, hehe.

Thanks for explaining! I wonder if GG monitors changing IP addresses or not. Would a VPN work to prevent them from tracking people's personal IP addresses?

Kinda off topic: I always hear stuff about Hola being bad, but if you have it disabled I'm guessing it's no threat?

[IzzySmi]

Has anyone seen Morgan's post about GIS and how "you have literally threatened her job" "she was very well liked among peers" and "Anyone involved can technically be charged with a crime.."



Oh my god. He's lost the plot, back to fixing X boxes for you Morgan.



Edit: He's also denying I ever existed.. Guyz I'm not realz

[timtam]

Has anyone seen Morgan's post about GIS and how "you have literally threatened her job" "she was very well liked among peers" and "Anyone involved can technically be charged with a crime.."



Oh my god. He's lost the plot, back to fixing X boxes for you Morgan.



Edit: He's also denying I ever existed.. Guyz I'm not realz

I would have thought just being involved in that forum and giving out 'secrets' from her 'industry job' would have a complete breach of any privacy and confidentiality agreements she signed for her job. I don't actually think she has an industry job but if she did what job would allow you to go online and bitch about your clients?!

Also Morgan seems to think all the people that were banned either asked for their account to be deleted privately or never existed in the first place. And the screenshots of their existence is not good enough proof. Honestly wtf? I think its just best to give up on this and just all move over here.

[stella]

Wow, this whole thing is craziness! Are there still people oblivious to this all still posting on the D&P thread, or is it basically dead now?

Thank you to those who made this forum!

[IzzySmi]

Moderator Action :

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OMG the tinyurl name

[sweetmm]

trashqueen and other peeps, if you need assistance PM the admin/mod. The easiest way to find who are the current admin/mod at least for me, is click on the "Members" button beside the login/logout (top right corner). In the rank you can easily identify them

[sweetmm]

By the way guys I still be having dates with Gigi as

as long as I am still a member, anyone sees me there might PM me asking directions

[spider]

As of now it looks like Nesoi is no longer a moderator. Morgan will probably restore their mod status after looking into things some more. The same thing happened with GIS where he removed her mod status temporarily then restored it and told everyone to shut up and follow the rules.

[gasp]

So an extremely large number of you didn't know the beef that went down with Gabz_is_shite (also referred to as Gabz and morty). To explain, we want to share this formal complaint we planned to lodge with Morgan a while ago. It has screenshots etc of the lies that she spread, rules she broke, etc. I don't want y'all to think we are bullies. There were reasons for her fall.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XgW ... sp=sharing
its not all inclusive- we didn't get permission from some users to show their messages etc. But it does begin to show the problem that existed.

I'm not a fan of totally trashing someone- IMO, Morgan simply relied too much on mods who didn't undestand/feel the need to follow the rules. He does the bare minimum to keep the site going and get his cash. according to what I know, users were trying to find a way to take action against her, that's what he was referring to. He's lazy and an ass, but not sinister beyond being inordinately selfish.

[jess]

Has anyone seen Morgan's post about GIS and how "you have literally threatened her job" "she was very well liked among peers" and "Anyone involved can technically be charged with a crime.."



Oh my god. He's lost the plot, back to fixing X boxes for you Morgan.



Edit: He's also denying I ever existed.. Guyz I'm not realz

What? I don't see anything? This user doesn't exist... there is no post. WHERE IS THE PROOF?

[spider]

What? I don't see anything? This user doesn't exist... there is no post. WHERE IS THE PROOF?

Where's kiro with their irresputible poof when we need them.

[human]

Oh come on. Gabz's job would probably be more interested in how much of her day she spends on the bloody Internet. And yeah her case for being bullied is really going to stand up against the really cruel spiteful stuff she was saying about Gabby. El oh el.

Also, I did email as requested about my ban a few days ago and haven't received a reply. So that was pointless.

[Vivastian]

Following gasp's information on the topic, I'd like to post about my own banning that I discovered today.

During the first wave of bannings, I posted the following on Vivastian:

Posts from 2015 disagreeing with the morality and ethics (also validity) of Gabz_is_shite's 'insider information' regarding Dan and Phil being an out couple within their business circles have been removed, without consent, warning, or consultation. Several people have screencaps and there are more than a dozen witnesses. Censorship won't 'fix' bad behaviour; nor turn a previously unethical poster into a rule-abiding moderator. You can ban me for this, but all that will demonstrate is Guru Gossiper's stance on freedom of speech, and, at a higher level, the board's respect for the wider LGBTQ community and it's complex struggles.

I won't say anymore as I agree with you Nesoi, it does clog up the thread and is terribly boring for people to read through who only come here for Gabriella Lindley gossip. Can I pose a question, though? If banning is the preferred method after warnings, instead of an investigation into multiple users' claims/complaints, are we to feel we're able to bring these to other moderators in private? Or will our PMs be ignored? As they have been, before.

This is a very large community. If there are legitimate widespread concerns about misuse of power, morality, and continual unpleasant disrespect shown to other posters by an individual - those concerns need to be taken seriously, lest there be a mass exodus.

The post is still viewable here. Interestingly enough, my name does not appear in red (sneaky or just lazy, GG? I'd love to know). It was then replied to via pm from mod mentioned, Nesoi:

Trying to keep everyone happy and to keep the board moving is not an easy task. Other threads have been more disruptive than this one and action was taken and of course not everyone agrees. Thank you for your support about my decision which was mainly taken to keep the board being clogged up.

When a user is One Click Banned their posts disappear so that is why you are not seeing certain posts.
Banning is not the preferred method after warnings; it is the next step all mods are told to take after warnings have been given and matters are unresolved. If several users are constantly disrupting the board, decisions are usually made for the good of the whole.

Gabz_is_shite has provided a lot of insider info, and insight how digital media works and has always been more than ready to answer questions users have. She is not the head of a talent management so we cannot expect her to know exact info or straight from the horse's mouth or be spot on, and she doesn't deserve to be vilified and publicly targeted; not does any mod or user. That kind of behaviour where people are singled-out is not tolerated.

GG is in no way anti LGBT or homophobic/transphobic and I know most users know that fact. GG welcomes everyone for the purpose of GOSSIP. Any kind of disrespect shown on boards is not acceptable to whomever. There are many personal arguments that go on and on on the main boards and mods always tell users to be mature, PM the person and resolve the issue in PM or just add them to the FOE list. Every user know that procedure now so I do not know why so many personal attacks still happen on boards and we have to intervene by putting board warnings, which then derails thread even more and takes away from the main gossip. Anyway, the main point is that mod and Admin do their best to deal with and resolve (asap) any issues that are brought to their attention. Most problems are resolved quickly and boards get back to normal.

There have been numerous times where popular users have been banned on other threads and other users took offense and claimed 'censorship' and 'freedom of speech' being infringed, this is not a new scenario. There have been mass exoduses before and those who left started their own forums, with their own rules (I am not saying those unhappy int he Gabby thread should. There is a fine line between being able to express pretty much any opinion, which GG allows, and staying within the rules. When the line is crossed and mods have to enforce a rule, users may not like it or will express offense. We try to resolve all matters quickly and so the boards can get back to GOSSIP and not be constantly clogged up or disrupted.

(Unfortunately, I do not have screenshots and can no longer obtain them.)

I have quite a few issues with this. Namely, and besides gabz's 'insider' credibility, the topic of procedure before bannings.

Banning is not the preferred method after warnings; it is the next step all mods are told to take after warnings have been given and matters are unresolved. If several users are constantly disrupting the board, decisions are usually made for the good of the whole.

Unless this pm counted as a personal warning (and it wouldn't matter, seeing as there was nothing posted after the fact), or 'decisions made for the good of the whole' is acting as an invalidation to the terms in the sentences before, I was never issued a warning of any kind. Like several others, I logged in to find only a statement that I had been banned - days after the post in the Gabby thread, around the same time as mermaid and human.

Furthermore, if a 'one-click-ban' results in all of a user's posts being deleted, then why are mine still up? And why are jhamba's and mermaid's deleted? Why is there no visible giveaway to the fact that I have been banned, other than my own word? As with everything else in this madness, the execution of bannings seem inconsistent, messy, and potentially suspicious.

Additionally: I can hardly be accused of excessiveness or spamming, seeing as my account was inactive for months before this shit storm happened.

[spider]

human it looks like you've been unbanned.

[human]

Nope still banned, can't see what that link points to either for some reason lol.

[spider]

Nope still banned, can't see what that link points to either for some reason lol.

It's your profile which is still visible as is Vivastian's. Strange that you've both been banned but your profiles and posts are still up.

[human]

Lol yeah, its what we have been refering to as stealth banning haha. Kinda hides they've done it from users so the staff look less crazed on their spree. Sneaky eh?

[spider]

It should no longer be surprising how unethical their behavior is but somehow it still is.