Dan & Phil Part 28: Possibly very gay

[Ticia]

Romantic end of the night:




Can you tell the difference? I can't tell the difference.

[hiddenwombat]

RE: marzia's bday i wonder what gift deppy did bring. we can rule out the pillow because it looks handmade and matches the drawing in PJ and sophie's card. the books and figurines feel like they would be from them as well.

phil did mention the milks were given to them and they were gonna be sharing them among their friends/giving them out for xmas, so maybe just the candle?
side note: both those milks were featured in the not milk challenge haha.

Romantic end of the night:

Can you tell the difference? I can't tell the difference.

10/10 post

[papierklemmen]

a candle is such a present! all i can say is i'd rather get presents from pj & sophie than dan and phil.

i don't think you have to be that close to go to someone's birthday, especially if your mutual friend is going too and you can stay at their place later. but i don't really get this opinion that deppy are barely close with anyone. obviously they are best friends with each other so that already makes everyone else less than their bff, but i do believe they are moderately close with everyone they hang out with, including louise. why are people so sure they're not close with her, because she said dan was a bachelor? also, being friends and being close is a difficult thing to measure. i've been lying about my real age to one of my closest friends for years now and she knows that, but we keep pretending that there's no elephant in the room.

[SquishPhan]

Always happy to see Deppy socializing with other people.
Still cute af that they always give joint presents, they are such a married couple.

Romantic end of the night:

Can you tell the difference? I can't tell the difference.

I see no difference either.

[sweetmm]

Winston I am glad to amuse you

My guess is gave the books too, maybe asking Soph for suggestions.

[000dia000]

Phil's card is adorable I have never see men make such cute cards, and even at that very few women and I loved that he said "love dan and phil" omg #platonicfaves

[CallMeAyana]

I couldn't see some of the pictures since the internet is slow, but... "interchangeable" clothes? I have to do a double-take because they both look pretty natural in... their clothes that it scares me. I didn't notice it at first, then... yeah :/
I still haven't watched the new Sims video, but I'll try watching it later since it seems to be my cup of tea (probably every Deppy's vid is, anyways)
Also, I really like the fact that they can go to places without the phandom following their every move. I'm glad that they have more privacy in their lives more than I think
About Dan and Phil irl, I really do find it interesting that Dan seems to be more shy than Phil considering he's the more out-going in their videos. I think that Phil is just really more confident than Dan, and he's fine where he is a this point of time. It seems to me that Dan is still looking for himself while Phil already found his (whut even is this post).
Anyways, I'll de-lurk again once spooky week comes around (actually, maybe not because I'll probably just rewatch their videos, so...) Hopefully, they'll play something like PT because PT is, by far, the one that I keep re-watching, and I honestly have no idea why

[majitzu]

So the book, the 2 milk toys and the candle... is that 1 of the 3 candles Phil bought from America?

[Galactic-Howell]

Ah! Love that they gave a joint gift, and that it is apparent that Phil wrote the card, lol

It looks like they had a really great time, and this is the most domestic we've seen them in awhile.

[annetamiau]

a candle is such a present! all i can say is i'd rather get presents from pj & sophie than dan and phil.

i don't think you have to be that close to go to someone's birthday, especially if your mutual friend is going too and you can stay at their place later. but i don't really get this opinion that deppy are barely close with anyone. obviously they are best friends with each other so that already makes everyone else less than their bff, but i do believe they are moderately close with everyone they hang out with, including louise. why are people so sure they're not close with her, because she said dan was a bachelor? also, being friends and being close is a difficult thing to measure. i've been lying about my real age to one of my closest friends for years now and she knows that, but we keep pretending that there's no elephant in the room.

This is the kind of thing I meant when I said 'the amount of antis we have lately depresses me' a few weeks back and a bunch of people came at me. Why do you have to relate everything to dan and phil NOT being in a relationship, god forbid? The fact that people might think deppy and Louise are not as close as the phandom assumes has to do with the fact that they seem to only hang out at conventions/when there are other youtubers, like the 1D concert. Of course that might not be the case and they might go to the cinema together every weekend (with their secret girlfriends that they have to keep on the low because of the demon phannies), but the fact that they apparently only hang out in work-related situations makes them just colleagues imo. Most people work with other people who they are friendly with, and have a good time with, but I wouldn't say they are 'close' by any standards.

Moving on, the card is cute and it reminds me of the one Cornelia (I think?) posted on IG a few years back. I might visit GG to have a look at the joint gifts compilation, but I think this is the second example of joint card known to the internet. As for the presents, my guess is just the candle and milk things, after all there were deppy, pj and sophie and at least three other people (though I have no idea who they are) whose presents might be in the picture too.

RE: Dan being shy and quiet. I haven't seem them irl, but I rewatched MattG's blogs from 2012 when he trash talked Dan a few months (weeks? idk) back and he was like that too, Phil did the majority of the talking and Dan looked a bit awkward all the time and barely said a word. Definitely not the loud, obnoxious person he seems to be in gaming videos.

[papierklemmen]

annetamiau, yeah except 1) i didn't relate it to them not being in a relationship, because i don't think their friends denying the relationship or calling them single/straight/whatever means anything, any decent friend would lie for you if they know you're in the closet 2) some people a few pages back literally attributed her calling dan a bachelor to them "not being close" and her "not knowing that they're together", which is a leap of logic. that's what i referred to.

and back then you posted about antis right after my post asking for an anti-timeline that would give me another unbiased perspective... you seem to be very defensive of your phan goggles, please remember that you don't have to 100% believe in their happy marriage to be a fan and it doesn't make you an "anti".

[starlight-still]

I’m a bit surprised that they were so insistent on making a whole separate honeymoon episode. To me, it wasn’t the greatest one and a bit of a stretch with the whole “let’s go to the next town” thing (isn’t there some kind of resort expansion they could get? Even a spooky-moon might have worked for those two- the sims and their parents). But as a bridge to the daily dose of deps and jump scares that is the Spooky Week? I’ll take it.

Just a few observations and moments:

- OK, I don’t get this whole “Americans don’t have kettles” stereotype. Do you mean the electric ones? Cause we’ve had them for years in my family and I’ve had some variation of one since undergrad? And before that we had stovetop ones? We have kettles, y’all, we have all the kettles.
- Guess they’re gonna have to consider a koi moat now. Perhaps something like:
- Did I detect a hint of sarcasm in Phil’s “they’re so married”? Whether phan is real or not, we’ve all seen how in sync they can be. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s something they chuckle about quite a bit off camera.
- Jealousy rears its head: part of me thinks it was just their way of amping up the drama in an otherwise chill situation. Maybe they caught wind of some reactions to how calm and uneventful the wedding was and were like “OK, guys, if y’all want some drama we’ll give ya drama.” Did I think back to Dan’s admission about his nature and wonder if he was projecting a bit (it was mostly Dan cussing out the perceived intruders; Phil simply seemed amused but we know how they tend to mirror each other)? Sure. Maybe it was a bit of both. Then again, the way they were exaggerating the drama made me think that, if anything, they'd be quite the opposite if they *were* a couple and that were to happen. Hm.

Re: Marzia birthday pics

They’re cute as all out especially deppy’s little card. From one couple to another? “Love from”? Bonding over a shared love of dogs? The fact that deps either has on hand or went out to buy puppy stickers?

Re: Shy/quiet Dan

I can totally see it. He’s mentioned several times about being a “chill” person and he may be referring to his temperament in certain situations. I don’t know why but no matter how many angel bean, etc. posts I see, I still think of Dan as the kinder, sweeter, more sensitive one (Phil = sweet face, devious and twisted mind…I mean that in the best way). Not that being quiet actually means any of these things, but in his case even though he has a habit of screeching at the top of his lungs, he’s always come across to me as being very gentle when it comes to connecting with others. I haven’t seen it in person so I cannot say whether it’s awkwardness or not (and does that mean he seems aloof? Or more like he’s a bit uncomfortable?) but there can also be a kind of confidence in being quiet in situations where you’re expected to be loud and entertaining if that’s who you really are.

[Catallena]

Ugh @ D&P and their stupid joint gifts and cards. I bet those assholes write their Christmas cards together as well. I hate them.

[majitzu]

Finally.

Pj: The socks have been returned.

[melon lord]

Ugh @ D&P and their stupid joint gifts and cards. I bet those assholes write their Christmas cards together as well. I hate them.

Joint cards with a little cute note scribbled on the bottom from the other person, with three x's and a smiley face or a little doodle if it's extra friendly

[mez29]

Ah! Love that they gave a joint gift, and that it is apparent that Phil wrote the card, lol

It looks like they had a really great time, and this is the most domestic we've seen them in awhile.

The card is jointly written looks like Phil drew the balloons, but "love from" is definitely in Dan's handwriting

[SquishPhan]

Finally.

Pj: The socks have been returned.

Finally, it was about time.

[nephilimcat]

Aww, those birthday party pictures and the card are so cute
I agree that celebrating someone's birthday doesn't necessarily mean you're close, but there's a difference between being at a big party or being one of 7 (?) people who were invited for dinner to someone's house. It does imply that you're quite close. They might not see each other that often, but that doesn't mean they don't talk a lot online. We can't know that. With Louise, we do know it because she asked if Dan still had the same number, which means they don't talk a lot. Also, they don't live that close and we know that Dan and Phil don't hang out with people that often in general.

i've been lying about my real age to one of my closest friends for years now and she knows that, but we keep pretending that there's no elephant in the room.

[offtopic]Omg, why would you do that? [/offtopic]

[danphil333]

It's nice they still can move sometimes without anyone noticing.

Good point that they made it there without being seen, this is a good thing.

Also, I really like the fact that they can go to places without the phandom following their every move. I'm glad that they have more privacy in their lives more than I think

http://pppasta.tumblr.com/post/15212215 ... thing-that

what jacket is that? i love it

[pearshaped34]

a candle is such a present! all i can say is i'd rather get presents from pj & sophie than dan and phil.

i don't think you have to be that close to go to someone's birthday, especially if your mutual friend is going too and you can stay at their place later. but i don't really get this opinion that deppy are barely close with anyone. obviously they are best friends with each other so that already makes everyone else less than their bff, but i do believe they are moderately close with everyone they hang out with, including louise. why are people so sure they're not close with her, because she said dan was a bachelor? also, being friends and being close is a difficult thing to measure. i've been lying about my real age to one of my closest friends for years now and she knows that, but we keep pretending that there's no elephant in the room.

People debating how close D&P are to Louise isn't just shippers being butthurt she called him a bachelor it was a recurring discussion topic long before then.
And as the discussion regarding Marzia and Pewds shows now it's not exclusive to Louise but pretty much all youtubers they socialise with. I'm sure someone was also questioning if they were still close to PJ just the other day as well.

As for why, people are so sceptical of their friendships I think it's partly cynicism towards youtube friendships in general and partly because D&P do seem to have form of dropping "friends" from their lives completely (thus making people wonder how real the friendship was to begin with).

Crabstickz for example was once thought to be one of their closest friends and now only do they no longer speak to him this is what he had to say on the "friendship" a few years back.

And while Chris is the most prominent example there are definitely other youtubers from back in the day who they were once thought to be good friends with that they don't so much as follow on twitter anymore.

So yeah people now have more then a healthy does of scepticism about D&Ps friendships.

Aww, those birthday party pictures and the card are so cute
I agree that celebrating someone's birthday doesn't necessarily mean you're close, but there's a difference between being at a big party or being one of 7 (?) people who were invited for dinner to someone's house. It does imply that you're quite close.

I agree if someone is celebrating their birthday with a small number of people then getting an invite suggests closeness.
I mean of course they could have been given a default invite because they just happened to be already visiting PJ the night and they needed to come so PJ and Sophie could come but if we are assuming this is not the case and they went to Brighton specifically because she invited them to her birthday this does make it seem like they consider each other good friends.

[Catallena]

a candle is such a present! all i can say is i'd rather get presents from pj & sophie than dan and phil.

i don't think you have to be that close to go to someone's birthday, especially if your mutual friend is going too and you can stay at their place later. but i don't really get this opinion that deppy are barely close with anyone. obviously they are best friends with each other so that already makes everyone else less than their bff, but i do believe they are moderately close with everyone they hang out with, including louise. why are people so sure they're not close with her, because she said dan was a bachelor? also, being friends and being close is a difficult thing to measure. i've been lying about my real age to one of my closest friends for years now and she knows that, but we keep pretending that there's no elephant in the room.

People debating how close D&P are to Louise isn't just shippers being butthurt she called him a bachelor it was a recurring discussion topic long before then.
And as the discussion regarding Marzia and Pewds shows now it's not exclusive to Louise but pretty much all youtubers they socialise with. I'm sure someone was also questioning if they were still close to PJ just the other day as well.

As for why, people are so sceptical of their friendships I think it's partly cynicism towards youtube friendships in general and partly because D&P do seem to have form of dropping "friends" from their lives completely (thus making people wonder how real the friendship was to begin with).

Crabstickz for example was once thought to be one of their closest friends and now only do they no longer speak to him this is what he had to say on the "friendship" a few years back.

And while Chris is the most prominent example there are definitely other youtubers from back in the day who they were once thought to be good friends with that they don't so much as follow on twitter anymore.

So yeah people now have more then a healthy does of scepticism about D&Ps friendships.

^
All of this.

D&P's friendship with Louise just seems quite shallow to me, like Phil and Louise are pretty awkward together and Dan just becomes R E A L L Y L O U D to keep up with her, similar to how camp he becomes while in the presence of Tyler of more of a typical bro nerd when dealing with Anthony. So I just don't think they're close. YouTube friendships, 90% of them are fake as hell.

In other news, BBCR1 is testing me.

Too soon fuckers, my mourning period over the radio show isn't even over yet.

[papierklemmen]

a candle is such a present! all i can say is i'd rather get presents from pj & sophie than dan and phil.

i don't think you have to be that close to go to someone's birthday, especially if your mutual friend is going too and you can stay at their place later. but i don't really get this opinion that deppy are barely close with anyone. obviously they are best friends with each other so that already makes everyone else less than their bff, but i do believe they are moderately close with everyone they hang out with, including louise. why are people so sure they're not close with her, because she said dan was a bachelor? also, being friends and being close is a difficult thing to measure. i've been lying about my real age to one of my closest friends for years now and she knows that, but we keep pretending that there's no elephant in the room.

People debating how close D&P are to Louise isn't just shippers being butthurt she called him a bachelor it was a recurring discussion topic long before then.
And as the discussion regarding Marzia and Pewds shows now it's not exclusive to Louise but pretty much all youtubers they socialise with. I'm sure someone was also questioning if they were still close to PJ just the other day as well.

As for why, people are so sceptical of their friendships I think it's partly cynicism towards youtube friendships in general and partly because D&P do seem to have form of dropping "friends" from their lives completely (thus making people wonder how real the friendship was to begin with).

Crabstickz for example was once thought to be one of their closest friends and now only do they no longer speak to him this is what he had to say on the "friendship" a few years back.


And while Chris is the most prominent example there are definitely other youtubers from back in the day who they were once thought to be good friends with that they don't so much as follow on twitter anymore.

So yeah people now have more then a healthy does of scepticism about D&Ps friendships.

fair enough! i know about their friendship drama, the oldschool 2009 group of friends and chris& pj. i just don't really think it's fair to measure friendship levels this way since it's difficult to maintain relationships with everybody on the same level all the time. friends come and go - someone you thought were close to 4 years ago may lose touch with you, you gradually stop talking to some people when you move to another city, your best friend from school can become just a casual aquaintance - doesn't mean you were never "close" with these people. the same way someone you were just casual online friends with can become your new best friend when you move to their city. i guess i don't really get the term "close", in my opinion louise is like someone you like and would hang out with, go to parties with, maybe go to their birthday party if the invite you, but not someone you would text to everyday to ask how they're doing. pewds and marzia seem to be on the same level to me, i don't see how they would be closer to deppy. all of these i would count as "a friend".

re/ teen awards: is it confirmed that they're not going to present tomorrow?

[offtopic]Omg, why would you do that? [/offtopic]

[offtopic]it's really embarrassing!! we met online on a forum when i was 14 and she was 16 and bonded over our mutual love of blur & british music in general. i was so ashamed of being so young that i said i was 16 too... and since we lived in cities on opposite sides of the country i never thought we'd even meet. but we kept in touch, bonded over our favourite video games, met up a few times, then she moved to the capital city and now two years ago i moved here too and we basically became bffs BUT all this time i've kept up the charade that i'm two years older than i really am and i am not going to stop anytime soon [/offtopic]

[majitzu]

I don't think Felix and Marzia are close friends with deppy, I think they like them and enjoy their company. And I believe that if D&P live closer they would become close friends.

I mean what is the definition of close friends? People which whom you can talk freely about any topics, I think only Bryony, Wirrow, Ian and maybe Pj are on that level.

I think Louise and Dan are good friends but the kind of friend you see once in a time and enjoy talking with them but not seriously or whatever

I need to pay attention to this class ... Sorry idk how to english

[fancybum]

In other news, BBCR1 is testing me.

Too soon fuckers, my mourning period over the radio show isn't even over yet.

Is it too to wonder if that's a hint of some kind? Like they could have tweeted a plain old pic without D&P, but did they include them in the pic&steer to remind people they exist because.. they'll be there in some capacity..? I've checked their website and there's nothing about anybody hosting that I can find. And Dan was so casual when he mentioned it in the liveshow (not in a suspicious or coy way like he is when actually hinting at things (such as YTRewind)) which made me just accept what he said at face value. BUT surely he would know a week in advance whether he'd be attending or not. Right?! So maybe that utter casualness was intended to throw us off the scent. Do I sound crazy? Don't answer that.

[swofro]

Moving on, the card is cute and it reminds me of the one Cornelia (I think?) posted on IG a few years back. I might visit GG to have a look at the joint gifts compilation, but I think this is the second example of joint card known to the internet. As for the presents, my guess is just the candle and milk things, after all there were deppy, pj and sophie and at least three other people (though I have no idea who they are) whose presents might be in the picture too.

Saw this on twitter.