Dan & Phil Part 3: Abs and Angst

[swofro]

Do you guys think he will bring into the tour bus??

But no. Too big/bulky. It'll be interesting to see what they do take from home though - I will find it unbearably adorable if Lion and Bear go though. #PlushyWatch2k16

But what will he hug when he sleeps? the real deal?

Yes. That is all my contribution for being top of the page. Seriously, you guys can express what I want to say very well and this is one of those moment when I miss the like button.

[DryCereal]

Do you guys think he will bring into the tour bus??

But no. Too big/bulky. It'll be interesting to see what they do take from home though - I will find it unbearably adorable if Lion and Bear go though. #PlushyWatch2k16

But what will he hug when he sleeps? the real deal?

Obvs:

[trashqueen]

i am phan af and can't see them going their separate ways but honestly if that did happen i would pay them to vlog the day they decide who keeps what, i've seen actual couples living together that share less things

and you've already covered all bases on dan's ls, but i agree he sounded really sincere when he thanked his audience for the reception of his last video. Idk why but i was expecting some cheeky 'boys are cute'/male attraction reference on this liveshow after such a bold video but that didn't happen, maybe he needed a break after 2 days of the phandom debating his sexuality

re:labels and sexuality (ik this topic is over but i've just though about it), i find it really curious how people are a lot more cautious (or hypocrites) when it comes to bisexuality, no one really debates this much when calling someone gay (until proven otherwise, the same way we're using bisexual here) and straight is the default label anyway, but when it comes to calling someone bisexual suddenly labels are a really big deal and you need a 20 page essay signed by the person you're talking about for it to be a valid interpretation.

it's especially funny in dan's situation since bisexual is literally the only label he ever claimed, ever, yes it was many years ago but still that should count as more than 'implied straightness' (that doesn't actually go against the bisexual interpretation except for very few comments)

but for some reason it seems like some people want to believe that assuming straight until proven otherwise is less problematic?

[DryCereal]

There is a 3rd option - buying the entire building they're currently living in and moving their respective secret partners/families in.

[SquishPhan]

There is a 3rd option - buying the entire building they're currently living in and moving their respective secret partners/families in.

That is probably what they will do, makes the most sense to me. You have uncovered their secret master plan.

[akui]

There is a 3rd option - buying the entire building they're currently living in and moving their respective secret partners/families in.

There is only one apt to buy, the apt of the guy who have sex a lot and owns a dog. But even though they still need to decide who lives in the old apt who lives in the new one.

So yeah, drama

[madmadmad]

i am phan af and can't see them going their separate ways but honestly if that did happen i would pay them to vlog the day they decide who keeps what, i've seen actual couples living together that share less things

and you've already covered all bases on dan's ls, but i agree he sounded really sincere when he thanked his audience for the reception of his last video. Idk why but i was expecting some cheeky 'boys are cute'/male attraction reference on this liveshow after such a bold video but that didn't happen, maybe he needed a break after 2 days of the phandom debating his sexuality

re:labels and sexuality (ik this topic is over but i've just though about it), i find it really curious how people are a lot more cautious (or hypocrites) when it comes to bisexuality, no one really debates this much when calling someone gay (until proven otherwise, the same way we're using bisexual here) and straight is the default label anyway, but when it comes to calling someone bisexual suddenly labels are a really big deal and you need a 20 page essay signed by the person you're talking about for it to be a valid interpretation.

it's especially funny in dan's situation since bisexual is literally the only label he ever claimed, ever, yes it was many years ago but still that should count as more than 'implied straightness' (that doesn't actually go against the bisexual interpretation except for very few comments)

but for some reason it seems like some people want to believe that assuming straight until proven otherwise is less problematic?

(haha yay more sexuality! no really it's an interesting topic)

In my opinion, it's definitely important to leave room for some doubt even for people who have expressed attraction only to people of the opposite sex until they have explicitly stated that they are straight (like arguments made against certain homosexual ships being real are sometimes "they can't be together, they're straight" when the character in question has never had their sexuality explicitly stated in the source material). You never know. I think the reason why a lot of people are cautious to brand Dan as bisexual is in some cases bi-erasure (?how is this word used idk), but in other cases (mine I'd like to think but it's difficult to be self-aware) it's more like he has made a couple of statements in the past contradicting his initial identification as bisexual (not that many mind you, but still (and no obviously the "I'm not gay" doesn't say anything other than that he is not gay, which reminds me of another thing that is kind of funny which is that some phan shippers only try to argue that Dan is gay to prove that "phan is real!" when it's so much easier to argue that he is bi... logic )). I like to be on the safe and leave some room for doubt so that whatever happens, I can't be accused of being completely wrong because I'm an obnoxious person who hates being wrong.

But to be honest, this is just such a difficult problem, because (according to statistics at least) the majority of people are straight and a lot of people might not even meet that many people who are open about being of another sexuality, and I think this is especially true for bisexuals because we can go our whole lives ignoring our attraction to the same sex until we find someone of the opposite sex we like to marry and have kids with or whatever you wanna do and no one needs to ever know that we are bisexual. This just makes it so easy (and it's practically ingrained in our society, is this what people call heteronormasomething what is it called?) to assume that everyone is straight until they say otherwise and this is the reason why a lot of people have to "come out". I, too, find myself thinking like that occasionally (although IRL I don't really think about people's sexuality too much unless it's someone I like and want to you know). This is definitely not ideal, but how much can you blame people for this? IDK.

(wow much rant very long so boring... why do i ramble about these kinds of topics so much? i guess as humans most of us are just inherently very interested in sex)

Dan's ls: About Dan's liveshow, did anyone actually see people in the comments referencing his sexuality? And what did they say? My chat kept lagging really bad and I only saw the occasional "you finally acknowledged Haru" comments. From what I saw there wasn't that many comments?

[DryCereal]

There is a 3rd option - buying the entire building they're currently living in and moving their respective secret partners/families in.

There is only one apt to buy, the apt of the guy who have sex a lot and owns a dog. But even though they still need to decide who lives in the old apt who lives in the new one.

and the one they're currently renting.

[backin09]

Dan's ls: About Dan's liveshow, did anyone actually see people in the comments referencing his sexuality? And what did they say? My chat kept lagging really bad and I only saw the occasional "you finally acknowledged Haru" comments. From what I saw there wasn't that many comments?

I saw a few people asking "Dan, are you gay?" or "Are you actually bi?" but not many

[Jeweul]

Pfff i wish my dreams make sense, but the don't have a patern, no story, no continuity. I'm sure I dream with Dan months ago but I never understand the order or story of my dreams.

The only dream I've had with is a super-exciting one where I saw them on the street and overheard them needing to get a taxi but not having any USD, so I paid for it for them. It was like 10 seconds of interaction and I got nothing out of it except -$15. Damn, even my dreams can't be bothered to fantasize a little

I had a dream where I was Dan and Phil was Phil and we were kissing and stuff... And we were filming a video while doing it... It was very fun.

[madmadmad]

There is a 3rd option - buying the entire building they're currently living in and moving their respective secret partners/families in.

There is only one apt to buy, the apt of the guy who have sex a lot and owns a dog. But even though they still need to decide who lives in the old apt who lives in the new one.

and the one they're currently renting.

Trigger Warning :

beastiality

Conspiracy theory: what if the guy in the apartment under actually has sex with the dog and D&P are in a four-way relationship with the man and the dog (because, let's be real, if D&P aren't furrys they are definitely zoophiles) and they're planning on buying up all of the apartments together and start a secret beastiality club. #stopwatchingdanandphildontsupportbeastiality

EDIT: Soz

[Anonymousse]

There is a 3rd option - buying the entire building they're currently living in and moving their respective secret partners/families in.

There is only one apt to buy, the apt of the guy who have sex a lot and owns a dog. But even though they still need to decide who lives in the old apt who lives in the new one.

and the one they're currently renting.

Trigger Warning :

beastiality

Conspiracy theory: what if the guy in the apartment under actually has sex with the dog and D&P are in a four-way relationship with the man and the dog (because, let's be real, if D&P aren't furrys they are definitely zoophiles) and they're planning on buying up all of the apartments together and start a secret beastiality club. #stopwatchingdanandphildontsupportbeastiality

Oh god please, always spoiler triggers.

[DryCereal]

There is a 3rd option - buying the entire building they're currently living in and moving their respective secret partners/families in.

There is only one apt to buy, the apt of the guy who have sex a lot and owns a dog. But even though they still need to decide who lives in the old apt who lives in the new one.

and the one they're currently renting.

Trigger Warning :

beastiality

Conspiracy theory: what if the guy in the apartment under actually has sex with the dog and D&P are in a four-way relationship with the man and the dog (because, let's be real, if D&P aren't furrys they are definitely zoophiles) and they're planning on buying up all of the apartments together and start a secret beastiality club. #stopwatchingdanandphildontsupportbeastiality

[Anonymousse]

[DryCereal]

Bless you my child.

I swear, I NEED a gif of Dan telling Phil off, either from the "bad friend" part of Just Dance, or "Bad Phil, don't buy cookies!" from the "domestic arguments" LS. PROJECT!

[DryCereal]

We need to find Fabrice!

[SquishPhan]

We need to find Fabrice!

Poor Phil, although I don't think his hair is that bad. But yeah someone find Fabrice.

[bluebox-away]

We need to find Fabrice!

Poor Phil, although I don't think his hair is that bad. But yeah someone find Fabrice.

Maybe if he can't find Fabrice he'll go to a different hairdresser (Dan's maybe?) and finally get a quiff?

[SquishPhan]

We need to find Fabrice!

Poor Phil, although I don't think his hair is that bad. But yeah someone find Fabrice.

Maybe if he can't find Fabrice he'll go to a different hairdresser (Dan's maybe?) and finally get a quiff?

I would love that to happen, doubt it though.

[DryCereal]

We need to find Fabrice!

Poor Phil, although I don't think his hair is that bad. But yeah someone find Fabrice.

Maybe if he can't find Fabrice he'll go to a different hairdresser (Dan's maybe?) and finally get a quiff?

I would love that to happen, doubt it though.

It'd make Mr "I ALWAYS want Phil's hair" Howell happy though.

[smarties]

We need to find Fabrice!

Poor Phil, although I don't think his hair is that bad. But yeah someone find Fabrice.

Maybe if he can't find Fabrice he'll go to a different hairdresser (Dan's maybe?) and finally get a quiff?

I would love that to happen, doubt it though.

It'd make Mr "I ALWAYS want Phil's hair" Howell happy though.

The question is...
Will the phandom, which is known to be able to find specific hotel rooms' plans in Japan,be able to find Fabrice?? (and be for once really useful and not extremely annoying to them with all the investigations...??)

[daphenaxa]

We need to find Fabrice!

Poor Phil, although I don't think his hair is that bad. But yeah someone find Fabrice.

Maybe if he can't find Fabrice he'll go to a different hairdresser (Dan's maybe?) and finally get a quiff?

I would love that to happen, doubt it though.

It'd make Mr "I ALWAYS want Phil's hair" Howell happy though.

The question is...
Will the phandom, which is known to be able to find specific hotel rooms' plans in Japan,be able to find Fabrice?? (and be for once really useful and not extremely annoying to them with all the investigations...??)

lol omg that'd be such a good challenge!! like a treasure hunt but the treasure is Fabrice

edit. maybe I found him actually

[alittledizzy]

The question is...
Will the phandom, which is known to be able to find specific hotel rooms' plans in Japan,be able to find Fabrice?? (and be for once really useful and not extremely annoying to them with all the investigations...??)

I have faith that the phandom could be both useful and extremely annoying. Like - they'll find Fabrice, sure. And then every review listing, informational page, and social media account for the poor guy will be filled with nothing but people asking him things about Phil, telling him Phil is looking for him, or just shouting "protip!" into the void.

[DryCereal]

"Fabrice+hair+london" on google turns up a few, but... We don't have a lot to go on(!) or a lot of time before Phil leaves for the States.
Good fortune, hairdresser-hunters!

The question is...
Will the phandom, which is known to be able to find specific hotel rooms' plans in Japan,be able to find Fabrice?? (and be for once really useful and not extremely annoying to them with all the investigations...??)

I have faith that the phandom could be both useful and extremely annoying. Like - they'll find Fabrice, sure. And then every review listing, informational page, and social media account for the poor guy will be filled with nothing but people asking him things about Phil, telling him Phil is looking for him, or just shouting "protip!" into the void.

You know it!!

[phamnotof]

We need to find Fabrice!

Poor Phil, although I don't think his hair is that bad. But yeah someone find Fabrice.

Maybe if he can't find Fabrice he'll go to a different hairdresser (Dan's maybe?) and finally get a quiff?

I would love that to happen, doubt it though.

It'd make Mr "I ALWAYS want Phil's hair" Howell happy though.

The question is...
Will the phandom, which is known to be able to find specific hotel rooms' plans in Japan,be able to find Fabrice?? (and be for once really useful and not extremely annoying to them with all the investigations...??)

1) um I have never seen specific japan hotel rooms i have a mighty need?
2) if I for a second believed his name was actually Fabrice, yeah, we could do it. but not without phil's help & that's not happening
3) are we sure they didn't share a hairdresser to begin with? i mean, dan was also complaining in the latest ls that he needed a haircut badly