autumnhearth wrote:Susanisnotafish wrote:
autumnhearth wrote:I get what you mean about Dan's tone in the women in dangerous places comment. (My husband thinks they are a tad misogynistic *cough*Tabitha*cough*)
I agree they were defo passing the childcare off to Tabs, but is that what you mean by misogynistic or do you have other examples, cause I would call what I'm referring to playing into gender role stereotyping.
No, I wasn't referring to child care, except when they say she's not pulling her weight. They have also said she was a hard working woman so that's okay. I was referring more to constantly calling her T-Bag and the episode when she was pregnant, calling her a whale and just the overall feels there. They clearly had no concept of how pregnancy worked and seems unsympathetic (which whatever it's just the Sims) but their doting over Dab made me feel better. They have also focused on her for one or two episodes, so that's nice. Shrug.
Sorry, but that's quite a statement to make that they are misogynistic, and I don't think that's fair. It's the wrong use of the word? It's not what deppy do at all. Arguably, some of what they can say at times can be considered *sexist* but I wouldn't just "call them out" on mistakes or slip ups as indicating that they're out to hate women. I know they aren't exempt from criticism, of course, but sometimes gender roles, no matter how much Dan tries to "break down", are still there, and sometimes people still make the mistake-that doesn't mean people should take out the pitchforks. For one, they are mistakes, and second, I think people could be misinterpreting them. I never considered them calling her "T-bag" as bad, but I guess that's up to interpretation
In the case of Tabitha, I don't think they pass the "child care" onto her, the only case this may be interpreted is that they mostly play through Dil, therefore Tabitha might get the job of feeding Dab while they are off doing the science plot. They also have Dil do child-minding interactions. Unless someone went to the trouble of analyzing the amount of time they allocated Dil and Tabitha to child minding, and the circumstances relating to the character play. Maybe they should spend more time with Tabitha? Or maybe they're more focused on their main character?
Secondly, I think deppy are kind of out of touch with what women behave/like/act like. They have female friends, and are very intuitive, kind people. However they wouldn't understand what it is like being female and may make mistakes or assumptions on what women like/behave. I think in some cases, they pay very close attention to respecting women/female characters in something, and people like them for that, but whenever they start ignoring a female character, not pay them any attention, and treat them like any other character, people don't like that eg. calling Tabitha a "stinky Ho". I do think they were unsympathetic to her being pregnant, and Phil admitting to calling a pregnant woman a "blimp" didn't help the case. But really, it's just a game and they're jokingly saying this stuff to a bunch of pixels.