Dan & Phil Part 45: R.I.P danisnotonfire 2009-2017

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alittledizzy wrote:I'm almost as emotional over Wirrow calling them his best friends as I am Phil calling Dan (and Cornelia) family.
This is so cute WTF!!! Just the concept that they all gather to watch Eurovision together like they do the Oscars. I love this foursome so much.

Also Dan being on the Lester Family Vacation has given me so many feelings. In combination with the fact that he isn't hiding it, much like he didn't hide Phil's birthday week in IoM.... I'm so pleased with Dan and Phil these days. :sobs:
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alittledizzy wrote:
Nope - that's why everyone was on the edge of their seats wondering. He did last year, but last year it was at the start of TATINOF US so Dan would have been going to the US anyway. This year he really had no actual reason to stay, besides just joining the Lesters.
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no, i think this is the first time (tho last year he was there for a few days but it was before tatinof usa started) feel free to correct //dizzy was faster
hum it's almost like they feel comfortable doing whatever the heck they want to do now :thumb:
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did dan really just finally use 'phil and i' when 'me and phil' was the grammatically correct option
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awsugar wrote:
did dan really just finally use 'phil and i' when 'me and phil' was the grammatically correct option
English speakers have always had a hard time using "X and I" vs "X and me" correctly, even though they have no trouble using standalone "I" and "me" correctly (hint: the rules are exactly the same). And with everyone hypercorrecting each other all the time (that is, often the corrector is the one who is wrong), it gets harder for all of us to remember the grammatical usage. :facepalm:

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awsugar wrote:
did dan really just finally use 'phil and i' when 'me and phil' was the grammatically correct option
Lol!!! I like how half of my Tumblr feed is people posting about Eurovision and the other half is people reblogging that are watching Eurovision together.

After extreme giddiness (and a bit of smugness), I am now very content in the knowledge they are all together and comfortable enough to share that, however subtly.

Because I'm new, I had just assumed Dan vacationed with them regularly, with a few exceptions (like when Dan hosted the Radio One show alone). I get why so many people we're pessimistic about him staying. I guess my ignorance kept me optimistic. I really could not imagine Dan going back home alone (though watch now he'll leave early next week).
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Kinda wish Dan would just generally tweet his thoughts about the Eurovision songs instead of replying to people so I can see him in my timeline but it's great to see him interacting so much! :)
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(I'm probably the only European that isn't watching the ESC, haha! I'm more of a hockey person anyway.)

After this absolutely horrible day, it made me so emotional to find out all this cute stuff about them still being in Florida and just, I'm so happy they aren't hiding things and just.... letting go and doing what ever they feel like doing. i hope they're having the best time together with the whole Lester fam.
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Asky160 wrote: Hi! From personal experience I can tell you that even if your country is part of the visa waiver program if you entered the country with an specific status and you want to change it quickly you'd have to leave the country and re enter. I lived in the US as a student with a F1 visa when that was about to expire I asked for an extension and that took about 2 months (is not that easy), then I got a job so my visa changed to a H1B visa and in order to validate that one I had to leave the country an re enter. All my friends regardless of the country they were from had to do the same, even the ones that wanted to stay as tourist (even if they were part of the visa waiver program). Also the visa waiver program allows the person to do business that is not remunerated (unlike the P1). Changing you immigration status within the US is quite dificult so if you have a tourist visa or you are part of the visa waiver program, it's way easier to just leave and re enter. I found this information regarding the F1 but I can assume it's the same for the P1.
Please be aware that if you have both a student and a tourist visa in your passport, you are not automatically able to transfer from one status to another. You need to formally apply to change your status with USCIS before your current status ends.
http://www.babson.edu/admission/interna ... tatus.aspx

That's my opinion based on personal experience but I could be wrong
ohhh this is super interesting, thanks for sharing! i didn't know that adjustment of status or applications could take so long to process so i suppose it is possible that under a short timeframe leaving the country is the fastest option for that? it's interesting that the uk's status in the VWP doesn't seem to matter here? and i wonder if extension of stay under the p-1 could be applied for more quickly than changing visa status to a tourist visa from the work visa. confusing lol! thanks again for clarifying and sharing your own experience!
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I know Michelle Visage and Ross Mathews are hosting a Eurovision viewing/commentary thingy for Americans so it's totally possible they can watch it here (although I'm not sure if it's in "real time" or delayed). Also I'M SUCH A DEMON PHANNIE RIGHT NOW OH MY GOD. I love how Dan was vague and subtle about being with the Lester's but casually posted a picture with Phil's arm in the corner. I think that's their new approach with everything regarding their relationship which I absolutely love. It takes away the hype but they don't have to actively hide it, I'm sure being that closeted for that long was straining on themselves and their relationship.

(Also Dan using "Phil and I" incorrectly... I know all my posts are horribly written because I don't edit anything but the journalism major in me is SCREAMING at him for that mistake..)

But wow Dan and Phil stayed with Martyn and Cornelia in a fancy couple's suit in Miami then went on the Lester's family trip... God bless 2017. Heaven knows we've earned it after the travesty that was 2016.
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Dan tweeting about a surprise bare arse on Eurovision
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DatCog wrote:Dan tweeting about a surprise bare arse on Eurovision
...Why Dan, why

Edit: How long does this particular post count title last? How many times do I need to spam to get rid of it?
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LeftHandedism wrote:
awsugar wrote:
did dan really just finally use 'phil and i' when 'me and phil' was the grammatically correct option
English speakers have always had a hard time using "X and I" vs "X and me" correctly, even though they have no trouble using standalone "I" and "me" correctly (hint: the rules are exactly the same). And with everyone hypercorrecting each other all the time (that is, often the corrector is the one who is wrong), it gets harder for all of us to remember the grammatical usage. :facepalm:

/linguist
I thought dan was just being a troll because he always says 'me and phil' during liveshows when it should be 'phil and I' but idk, misspellings and grammatical errors are part of the Daniel Howell branding.

Also I have no comment on any of this it's taking me so long to process these Deppy developments....I've seen this fandom through it all and I never thought this is where we would end up

also the wirrow tweet has me hard core smiling, they're what the fantastic four wishes it was
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myllakka wrote:Edit: How long does this particular post count title last? How many times do I need to spam to get rid of it?
Might I suggest exploring our many off topic boards to find some stuff to post about? ;)
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alittledizzy wrote:
myllakka wrote:Edit: How long does this particular post count title last? How many times do I need to spam to get rid of it?
Might I suggest exploring our many off topic boards to find some stuff to post about? ;)
also it varies, but rn you're stuck til 60 (i think)
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Off-Topic (sorry I'm on mobile quick reply):

holy shit, I was searching for fanfiction and actually wrote Daniel Howell instead of Dan Howell and was so confused at the lack of results for a solid 5 seconds (having to type it in to twitter everytime I want to see his tweets has really familiarised me with the name)
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VengefulBlue wrote:
alittledizzy wrote:
myllakka wrote:Edit: How long does this particular post count title last? How many times do I need to spam to get rid of it?
Might I suggest exploring our many off topic boards to find some stuff to post about? ;)
also it varies, but rn you're stuck til 60 (i think)
60, huh; that's not too bad, I guess c: I'll take a look at the OT topics, thanks!

Re: Dan's use of 'Phil and I'--he's been getting better about using the right version in LS and such, but today's tweet really made me :facepalm:

Re: Wirrow's tweet--it's so sweet and made me all warm and fuzzy. I didn't really think about it much, but they must do a lot of double dates for all sorts of things
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[offtopic]i love how we all universally hate the 50 post count title, it's like a rite of passage.[/offtopic]
watching them watch eurovision has been the highlight of my day today, tbh. i've been pretty busy and stressed lately so their cute little tweets have really been cheering me up.

also i wouldn't be surprised if he used the wrong grammar just to mess with us at this point, with how much everyone points it out in liveshows. or he just can't be assed, because same dan.

EDIT: just laughed at this. it's basically all of us.
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llion wrote:[offtopic]i love how we all universally hate the 50 post count title, it's like a rite of passage.[/offtopic]
just laughed at this. it's basically all of us.
i saw that and i just cackled oh my god. it's true though
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It has made me so happy to find out Dan is still in FL bc after the following Dan quote from MHP I was slightly worried he might have a secret gf.

"If you are--if anyone out here is like a crazy Justin Bieber fan or Harry Styles fan or anything like that, don't choke anyone if they like bring a secret g--horse loving girlfriend to a gig."

I guess he is actually worried the Dan girls would choke Phil. Or maybe he does actually have a choking kink and is hoping they will.
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Susanisnotafish wrote:It has made me so happy to find out Dan is still in FL bc after the following Dan quote from MHP I was slightly worried he might have a secret gf.

"If you are--if anyone out here is like a crazy Justin Bieber fan or Harry Styles fan or anything like that, don't choke anyone if they like bring a secret g--horse loving girlfriend to a gig."

I guess he is actually worried the Dan girls would choke Phil. Or maybe he does actually have a choking kink and is hoping they will.
To me that quote was actually a hilariously perfect example of how far Dan will go to make sure that the audience knows that he is not referring to himself; he know that's the behavior of fans but he picked two specific other large fanbases to reference, not his own.

So that didn't worry me at all - but I"m still quite pleased that Dan is enjoying his trip with the Lesters.
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Susanisnotafish wrote:It has made me so happy to find out Dan is still in FL bc after the following Dan quote from MHP I was slightly worried he might have a secret gf.

"If you are--if anyone out here is like a crazy Justin Bieber fan or Harry Styles fan or anything like that, don't choke anyone if they like bring a secret g--horse loving girlfriend to a gig."

I guess he is actually worried the Dan girls would choke Phil. Or maybe he does actually have a choking kink and is hoping they will.
i just think this is proof that phil's a horse loving girlfriend. (maybe dan's secretly a horse? )
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llion wrote: i just think this is proof that phil's a horse loving girlfriend. (maybe dan's secretly a horse? )
Yup, a good-looking horse. I hear some people can make a career out of that. :wink:
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llion wrote: i just think this is proof that phil's a horse loving girlfriend. (maybe dan's secretly a horse? )
Yup, a good-looking horse. I hear some people can make a career out of that. :wink:
philip even means horse lover it was written in the stars they would be together
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I was watching some videos of Dan and Phil meeting fans and I was wondering if anyone has any theories/ideas as to why Dan does the thing where he has one hand on the fans shoulder so they don't come too far in. I've always noticed it but never quite thought about whether or not there was a reason for him doing it (to keep himself seperated from the person slightly? idk)
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saffarinda wrote:I was watching some videos of Dan and Phil meeting fans and I was wondering if anyone has any theories/ideas as to why Dan does the thing where he has one hand on the fans shoulder so they don't come too far in. I've always noticed it but never quite thought about whether or not there was a reason for him doing it (to keep himself seperated from the person slightly? idk)
I think it's probably because Dan himself doesn't want tight hugs, and there are fans who would be likely to just latch on tight - but also possibly good media training. Phil often does a version of the same thing, or he hugs with both arms but leans in with his upper body only. With a definite distance between them, it's a good way to make sure that no one thinks Dan or Phil (as adult men) are enjoying being close to young girls/women in any kind of inappropriate way.
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